Toughest Patrol??? GQ or GU

[taslucas]

Fair enough but you want to make it home the same century though :)

Haha it's a good thing those donks last so long haha

FanTapstic!

[Ben-e-boy]

Funny!

George ya gunna get Flogged mate! Lol

George has never seen an Angry GQ used properly ;)

You boys should head down as early as possible and we can get you up into the snow! Bring your swags boys!

Tempting. Haven't seen snow for 16 years. Don't know how I'll go driving in it.

[MudRunnerTD]

Tempting. Haven't seen snow for 16 years. Don't know how I'll go driving in it.

Bring your winch !!!

[AB]

Hold the phone ladies....lol

Just make sure this trip is October not September as ill be in Fraser and benny newby and GSC will be visiting yeah?

[AB]

Actually... Any time apart from September please!

[Ben-e-boy]

Actually... Any time apart from September please!

You'll drive straight past my house going to Fraser. Might make it so we convoy one way?.

[AB]

Sounds good mate!

[nissannewby]

Are you sure you will be able to keep up?

[nickpeacock36]

How long does it take to drive from Brissy to Vic?

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[Alitis007]

How long does it take to drive from Brissy to Vic?

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Its around 1800km but if you drive like me you can do it in 18hrs with 7hrs sleep and fuel stops every 400km ;) ......

[nissannewby]

Well we just drove from Adelaide to Brisbane in about 25hrs with a couple of stops for a kip.

[taslucas]

How long does it take to drive from Brissy to Vic?

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Its around 1800km but if you drive like me you can do it in 18hrs with 7hrs sleep and fuel stops every 400km ;) ......


Well we just drove from Adelaide to Brisbane in about 25hrs with a couple of stops for a kip.

So.......which is tougher, GU or GQ???????????

FanTapstic!

[nissannewby]

I was driving a td42 auto GQ so GQ hands down.

[nickpeacock36]

Hmm. Room in the convoy for another GU? I would love to see the high country.

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[Alitis007]

Well we just drove from Adelaide to Brisbane in about 25hrs with a couple of stops for a kip.

I just did a quick search how long it would take from Adelaide to Brisbane......
28910

And this one from Brisbane to melb that i did in my GU auto TB45.....
28911
Considering these times are for non stop traveling, i think my GU and i did alright!!

[nissannewby]

Yeah you did "alright" we were only pulling fuel stops every 600 though :p.

[Ben-e-boy]

I just did a quick search how long it would take from Adelaide to Brisbane......
28910

And this one from Brisbane to melb that i did in my GU auto TB45.....
28911
Considering these times are for non stop traveling, i think my GU and i did alright!!

I didn't realise that it's the best part of 1700 km, thought it was a bit more.If I play my cards right My GQ won't even need to stop for fuel.

[Alitis007]

I didn't realise that it's the best part of 1700 km, thought it was a bit more.If I play my cards right My GQ won't even need to stop for fuel.

It was a bit over 1800 from Moorooka to Thomastown, Diesel helps a bit. I only stopped every 400 coz i had the mrs with me, my radio turned on but sound didn't come out and the cruise control packed up so it was more for sanity and not for necessity!

[Ben-e-boy]

It was a bit over 1800 from Moorooka to Thomastown, Diesel helps a bit. I only stopped every 400 coz i had the mrs with me, my radio turned on but sound didn't come out and the cruise control packed up so it was more for sanity and not for necessity!

It's not the diesel that helps, it's the 220L of fuel I can carry without jerry cans.

[Alitis007]

That helps a tad aswell mate.

[90mav]

mmm, I have seen a GU rechassised on to a GQ chassis before...so mechanically there is nothing in it. Therefor, toughness is just a matter of perspective, and how hard one is ready to push it. Ive seen more people ready to give a GQ heaps than their nicer, plusher, more expensive GU... I guess oce the newer models filter thru and GUs become cheaper the balance may change. Sadly it seems any model with 4.2 diesel engine is becoming more expensive, even GQs. Mqs however have pretty much bottomed out in value and can only go up as a result of becoming a classic at 30 plus years.mmm concessional rego here we come!

[Nutta28]

I just want to say that the patrol as a general rule is an awsome and tough truck right from the old me/mk in the 3.3 turbo diesel which I had as my first 4wd :) right too the last of the 4.8 and 4.2 gu's. it all depends on which engine/gear box/diff combo yours has. I have the first of the 4.8 auto ti's and I love it just wish it had 4.11 diffs with the h260.
Last weekend I crawled up rocky track in toolangi and my trol is stock standard although it did help that the ti's have the factory diff lock as standard and the auto played its part to. And to tell the truth I don't think I would have made it up in a gq and u really do have to remember the the gq's r lighter and for the queens where as the gu are fore the real GUys and that is where the q's and u's come from.
P.s. for every one that said that the gu is more comfy the the gq they are wrong. When I was younger my old man upgraded from the gq(maverick) to a brand new 1998 st manual gu and the first thing that I noticed was that the gu wasn't as comfy as the gq

[Ben-e-boy]

I just want to say that the patrol as a general rule is an awsome and tough truck right from the old me/mk in the 3.3 turbo diesel which I had as my first 4wd :) right too the last of the 4.8 and 4.2 gu's. it all depends on which engine/gear box/diff combo yours has. I have the first of the 4.8 auto ti's and I love it just wish it had 4.11 diffs with the h260.
Last weekend I crawled up rocky track in toolangi and my trol is stock standard although it did help that the ti's have the factory diff lock as standard and the auto played its part to. And to tell the truth I don't think I would have made it up in a gq and u really do have to remember the the gq's r lighter and for the queens where as the gu are fore the real GUys and that is where the q's and u's come from.
P.s. for every one that said that the gu is more comfy the the gq they are wrong. When I was younger my old man upgraded from the gq(maverick) to a brand new 1998 st manual gu and the first thing that I noticed was that the gu wasn't as comfy as the gq

the gq would have made it up the rocky track easy. All that track needs is a smooth throttle and the driver being aware of the wheel track and diff clearence to accomplish. its not really a hard track.

No lift, No lockers, No need lol :)

[Fijohe]

Ha ha, I have a 4.2 TD, and will never go for anything smaller now. A recent trip of 800ks, and done another 80ks on the same tank thanks to a few modifications, such as removing restrictive mufflers and disabling catalytic converter, vehicle has never gone better. As far as Im concerned I now have my perfect vehicle.

[Nutta28]

I think we would all agree that the one thing that let's the gu down is the 3l it's piss week and it blows up. But apart from that they both have thing for and a genst.
Gu pro's:
1. Engines: tb45 same but as the tb42i but bigger, tb48, both had the 2.8 but gu was electronically controlled, both had td42 but the gu had n/a a turbo and a turbo inter cooled version.
2. Drive chain: gu has bigger axils and cv's, in the 4.8 you can get the 5 speed auto( should have been available on all engines).
3.More luxuries
4. I no not all of you are going to agree with me but the gu looks better and tougher
5. Power steering box
6. More models have the h260 diff in them
7. You don't need to cut the guards to fit 35's

Now the gq pro's:
1. Lighter
2. Has better head lights and tail light assembly
3. Has stood the to the test of time
4. Pre 1992 td42 had the toughest internals
5. Real metal bumpers ( but even gq owners change these for bar work)
6. Import had pto winch
7. This one hurts but early gq's and some international gu's have detachable sway bars
8. Td42 came in a auto
9. ARB makes a high mount winch bar for them

Gu cons.
1. 3l engine
2. Plastic bumpers
3. 2.8 and 3l manual gear box
4. Stupid people buying 3 litres( just because it was cheaper and nissan said that it was better on fuel but if you have to replace the engine all the time because of it blowing up then it really isn't that cheap is it).
5. Nissan now only offers the 3l
6. Panels bend and show mars easier( round bodie v square)
7. Cost compared to the gq but still a lot better then the cruiser


If you can't tell I really do not like the 3 litre

Gq cons:
1. It's had to find one with out rust(like one of you gq guys said earlier, the gq will drive strait though a river crossing but the gu will flote. This is because of all the water which is inside the gq lmao)
2. The carby tb42
3. Weeker cvs
4. Shit dash( to bad if you want a DVD player with GPS built into it because u can put it in but you want be able to see it.
5. Noise
6. Shit brakes
7. You also had a ford badge on you and you will never be able to live that one down
8. If you step out bush just about everyone has them( its the sheep factor)
9. The early utes where basically a mq with the h260, gq front diff and the td42

I'm shore I have forgotten some points with both the gu and gq in the pro's and the con's so please add to my list and remember that at least we don't drive cruiser lol
Go you good thing, go the patrol!!!!:)

[Nutta28]

Gu con
8. Very heavy

[Nutta28]

Gq pro
10. Passenger grab handle on dash

[BigRAWesty]

Gu pro
More leg room
Con
Less cargo area

Gq pro
More cargo area for beer
Con
Less leg room..

Who needs brakes in a gq anyway.. not like your going to find anything to hit that'll leave a mark.. unlike the gu, look at it in a abusive way and it wrinkles... :p

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[BigRAWesty]

Gq pro

No need for tracks, so no need for fancy double din sat nav stereos...

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[taslucas]

Gu pros
3.More luxuries Hahaha and how does more luxuries make it tougher?





7. You don't need to cut the guards to fit 35's What????? Plenty of 35's on GQs here mate





4. Shit dash( to bad if you want a DVD player with GPS built into it because u can put it in but you want be able to see it.
5. Noise

How the hell do either of those things make the GU "tougher"??? lol. "ooooo, my car is soooo tough it has a DVD player fitted"





8. If you step out bush just about everyone has them( its the sheep factor) If you go to the shopping centre on the way to the soccer field everyone has a GU ( its the soccer mum factor)




9. The early utes where basically a mq with the h260, gq front diff and the td42

I'm shore I have forgotten some points with both the gu and gq in the pro's and the con's so please add to my list and remember that at least we don't drive cruiser lol
Go you good thing, go the patrol!!!!:)

hahahaha

[Alitis007]

Ok you GQueers, how do you make a GU tougher?? Easy! lift and tyres. How do make a GQ tougher?? Not so easy, you need tyres, suspension lift, body lift, GU diffs, GU steering box and for the diesel boys GU injector pump, GU injectors and turbo set up. Yet from a distance if you put a GQ next to a 60 series they look pretty similar so how TUFF can your Q be if it looks like a cruiser???

[Winnie]

A GQ looks as much like a 60 as a GU does a 100
I was passenger in a Y62 today when a mate took one for a test drive. POWERRRRRRRR!!!!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Alitis007]

GQ shoe box!!

Chris wheres the pics?? Videos????

[taslucas]

Ok you GQueers, how do you make a GU tougher?? Easy! lift and tyres. How do make a GQ tougher?? Not so easy, you need tyres, suspension lift, body lift, GU diffs, GU steering box and for the diesel boys GU injector pump, GU injectors and turbo set up. Yet from a distance if you put a GQ next to a 60 series they look pretty similar so how TUFF can your Q be if it looks like a cruiser???

I will respect your opinion when it's gets a little closer to the truth!
Why would you suggest that all GQs need a body lift???
I wait in anticipation to see your GU's build thread stop at just lift and tyres.

FanTapstic!

[Ben-e-boy]

Ok you GQueers, how do you make a GU tougher?? Easy! lift and tyres. How do make a GQ tougher?? Not so easy, you need tyres, suspension lift, body lift, GU diffs, GU steering box and for the diesel boys GU injector pump, GU injectors and turbo set up. Yet from a distance if you put a GQ next to a 60 series they look pretty similar so how TUFF can your Q be if it looks like a cruiser???

1.I dont use a gu pump on on mine it dosnt supply enough fuel.
2. I dont need a body lift.
3. Modifying a GQ to make it tough is as easy as a GU to make tough. A set of tyres and a bit of lift isnt tough. To go tough you still need to redo panhards control arms radius arms etc. Or to go harder 4 links, 5 links etc
4. A GU steering box also came out on the late model GQ's
5. there are plenty of tough GQ's without GU diffs.
6. your GU isnt tough.

[taslucas]

6. your GU isnt tough.

Hahaha, nuff said

FanTapstic!

[Alitis007]

I will respect your opinion when it's gets a little closer to the truth!
Why would you suggest that all GQs need a body lift???
I wait in anticipation to see your GU's build thread stop at just lift and tyres.

FanTapstic!


1.I dont use a gu pump on on mine it dosnt supply enough fuel.
2. I dont need a body lift.
3. Modifying a GQ to make it tough is as easy as a GU to make tough. A set of tyres and a bit of lift isnt tough. To go tough you still need to redo panhards control arms radius arms etc. Or to go harder 4 links, 5 links etc
4. A GU steering box also came out on the late model GQ's
5. there are plenty of tough GQ's without GU diffs.
6. your GU isnt tough.


Technicalities boyz !!
Lucas i didn't say all i just mentioned some mods that are done to Qs. When i do my build apart from lift and tyres i'll probably make it weaker if anything depending on my choice of motor upgrade, coz when you change anything from standard your changing the way it was initially setup so in theory modifications are the weak points unless your upgrades are genuine OEM from a newer model.

Bene as you know a lift isn't just springs and shocks and when i said lift those components are included. So your saying that early GQ's aren't as tough as the later Q's coz they have are smaller steering box or other heavier duty components that the U's inherited? You do have a turbo yeh ? Do it would naturally need the boost compensator and possibly other components from a GU pump to help it work efficiently right??

You make me laugh mate, my GU is tough from factory coz ITS A GU! Just coz its not a bush pig doesn't make it any weaker then any other U!


^_^No GQ's where harmed in the making of my GU^_^

[taslucas]

Technicalities boyz !!
coz when you change anything from standard your changing the way it was initially setup so in theory modifications are the weak points unless your upgrades are genuine OEM from a newer model.


Dude!? That is soooo wrong!!


FanTapstic!

[Maxhead]

Maybe we should have another thread for "more capable". Which both series can be with some modifications. As stock on the outisde I probably see it as a GQ being tougher as there is thicker metal and paint around it ;)...so easy to damage the U's...like tin foil with a spray of crap

[Ben-e-boy]

Technicalities boyz !!
Lucas i didn't say all i just mentioned some mods that are done to Qs. When i do my build apart from lift and tyres i'll probably make it weaker if anything depending on my choice of motor upgrade, what kind of power are we looking at? what suspension mods that may not be up to the task?

coz when you change anything from standard your changing the way it was initially setup so in theory modifications are the weak points unless your upgrades are genuine OEM from a newer model.
in theory communism works too
the aftermarket suspension components from quality manufacturers (superior engineering for example) have proven themselves better than nissan except bushes which no one has managed to improve on. give me 1 example of aftermarke suspension parts that are weaker than standard.


Bene as you know a lift isn't just springs and shocks and when i said lift those components are included. So how is it easier to do the same thing?

So your saying that early GQ's aren't as tough as the later Q's coz they have are smaller steering box or other heavier duty components that the U's inherited? they are both hefty units no matter which way you look at it.

You do have a turbo yeh ? Do it would naturally need the boost compensator and possibly other components from a GU pump to help it work efficiently right??
my pump contains aftermarket parts nothing was sourced from a gu

You make me laugh mate, my GU is tough from factory coz ITS A GU! Just coz its not a bush pig doesn't make it any weaker then any other U!
true though its purpose in life has a softer approach.


^_^No GQ's where harmed in the making of my GU^_^

Go to a wrecker look at the amount go wrecked GQ's to the amount of GU's. Plenty of GU's were harmed to make a tough GQ

[Alitis007]

Dude!? That is soooo wrong!!


FanTapstic!

Hows it wrong??? When something is designed and mass manufactured all the components are able to withstand the tolerances it was made for, let say for eg you change the cam in your TB42 for one that has a higher lift ( performance) and keep the rest standard, the bigger lobes on the cam are going to put more stress on the push rods and valve springs. Their tolerance is suited for standard so eventually breaking or bending from the added strain!!

Get what i'm saying ???

[Bob]

Nobody and I mean Nobody is going to win this discussion LOL
But it is keeping some of you busy LOL

[taslucas]

Nobody and I mean Nobody is going to win this discussion LOL
But it is keeping some of you busy LOL

Damn, well I'm going home then

FanTapstic!

[Maxhead]

Nobody and I mean Nobody is going to win this discussion LOL
But it is keeping some of you busy LOL

and I'm enjoying this...lol

[taslucas]

Hows it wrong??? When something is designed and mass manufactured all the components are able to withstand the tolerances it was made for, let say for eg you change the cam in your TB42 for one that has a higher lift ( performance) and keep the rest standard, the bigger lobes on the cam are going to put more stress on the push rods and valve springs. Their tolerance is suited for standard so eventually breaking or bending from the added strain!!

Get what i'm saying ???

I know what your getting at George. But think of your theory this way: your saying the more a patrol is modified the weeker it gets.......
So mudrunners, Bennys, newbies GQs must be soft as!!! I'm surprised they can even get them to the tracks lol

FanTapstic!

[Bob]

I know what your getting at George. But think of your theory this way: your saying the more a patrol is modified the weeker it gets.......
So mudrunners, Bennys, newbies GQs must be soft as!!! I'm surprised they can even get them to the tracks lol

FanTapstic!

Hey I thought you were going Home RAFLMAO

[Maxhead]

So mudrunners, Bennys, newbies GQs must be soft as!!! I'm surprised they can even get them to the tracks lol

FanTapstic!


hey dont forget about my stock Mav

[Alitis007]

Go to a wrecker look at the amount go wrecked GQ's to the amount of GU's. Plenty of GU's were harmed to make a tough GQ

The power that my setup will produce will have no affect on any suspension components unless i choose the wrong spring and damper rates then my handling and drivability will be compromised. The weak link could be the actual motor i choose to run.

The cars at wreckers are usually rolled or flood damaged vehicles and cars that have been wiped out on the rd and anyway they just scrap GQ bodies coz they're rusted out anyway.

So you just said that you need GU's to make GQ's tougher !!!!!!!

[taslucas]

Hey I thought you were going Home RAFLMAO
Haha, while theyre still biting, I'll keep casting:-)


hey dont forget about my stock Mav

I'm so so sorry, no one ever should forget about your stock
Maverick
FanTapstic!

[Alitis007]

I know what your getting at George. But think of your theory this way: your saying the more a patrol is modified the weeker it gets.......
So mudrunners, Bennys, newbies GQs must be soft as!!! I'm surprised they can even get them to the tracks lol

FanTapstic!

Depends on what mods are done, upgrading to thicker controls arms is more like an upgrade than a modification, cutting a dirty big hole in your bonnet for an intercooler makes it weaker by removing its reinforcement, not a upgrade thats a mod!

[Alitis007]

At the end of the day GU's rule !!! FTW!!!!

[oilpond]

At the end of the day GU's rule !!! FTW!!!!
Your GU is shit and your a wanka...

[Ben-e-boy]

The power that my setup will produce will have no affect on any suspension components unless i choose the wrong spring and damper rates then my handling and drivability will be compromised. The weak link could be the actual motor i choose to run.

The cars at wreckers are usually rolled or flood damaged vehicles and cars that have been wiped out on the rd and anyway they just scrap GQ bodies coz they're rusted out anyway.

So you just said that you need GU's to make GQ's tougher !!!!!!!

so obviously you are not going to run a td42 lmao

yes gu parts CAN make a GQ tougher although it isnt necessary, its just that a GU had to die to supply a gq that is still living.
think of it as organ donation.

as for rust I have seen some heavily rusted GU's it is not a problem with GQs only

[Ben-e-boy]

Depends on what mods are done, upgrading to thicker controls arms is more like an upgrade than a modification, cutting a dirty big hole in your bonnet for an intercooler makes it weaker by removing its reinforcement, not a upgrade thats a mod!

than what about my long arm kit.

[Alitis007]

than what about my long arm kit.

Don't know what that is lmao

[taslucas]

Don't know what that is lmao

And there ends the discussion:-)

FanTapstic!

[Maxhead]

Here George...http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_33&products_id=1719

[Alitis007]

Thanks Kris!!

Only problem i can see with the long arm kit that i can think of is what affect in the long run does it have on the chassis?? Will it crack along the weld after a beating ? To get your tail shaft on that sharp angle under full flex doesn't that tube that runs across the chassis near the handbrake drum have to be cut?? Wouldn't you loose its integrity and possibly twist your chassis?? What affect does all that flex do to the canceling angles of the universal joints under full acceleration, wont they chop out or twist the tail shaft??

So you've got killer flex but just weakened the truck!! IMO

[Ben-e-boy]

Thanks Kris!!

Only problem i can see with the long arm kit that i can think of is what affect in the long run does it have on the chassis?? Will it crack along the weld after a beating ? To get your tail shaft on that sharp angle under full flex doesn't that tube that runs across the chassis near the handbrake drum have to be cut?? Wouldn't you loose its integrity and possibly twist your chassis?? What affect does all that flex do to the canceling angles of the universal joints under full acceleration, wont they chop out or twist the tail shaft??

So you've got killer flex but just weakened the truck!! IMO

Righto... firstly define beating.

did you read the page about the problems it corrects?

[AB]

Nobody and I mean Nobody is going to win this discussion LOL
But it is keeping some of you busy LOL

Spoken by a true gu owner.... Lmao

Don't forget the gq has stronger gearbox and earlier td42 silver top have stronger conrods.

At the end of the day so far in all of our meetups when we split up the group the gq's head that way and the gu owners head down into the valley for some scones and cream.

Except for Nisspat who buys a brand new patrol and takes it out like a paddock bomb...lol...respect!

[Alitis007]

Righto... firstly define beating.

did you read the page about the problems it corrects?

Lol ok, constant use on and off rd, the effect of positive and negative G force ( gravitational force) from accelerating and de accelerating in all conditions.

The page said it solves 3 problems, torque steer from the rear diff, the canceling angle on flat ground and the diff wanting to drive under the car. I asked 6 different questions relating its surrounding components and the affect of this change of tolerances??

[Winnie]

Except for Nisspat who buys a brand new patrol and takes it out like a paddock bomb...lol...respect!

But what happens when you give him a GQ!???? It's even more insane!

[taslucas]

Hey george just chill it down a bit lol. You sound like a mechanic thats worth his salt and from all accounts you have a great knowledge in the industry, but theres a lot of guys here that do actually investigate the modifications they are doing not just whack em on because they think its cool. Its not up to them to take you through every step of the way in teaching the benifits of said modifications. Some of these guys are up to their 4th or 5th patrol and are one eyed 4wders.
We could go on forever about wether or not a long arm kit compromises chassis strength (even though id say it doesnt:) ) but theres no realistic way to prove it other than anecdotal evidence and ive never heard of a patrol chassis snapping because of the long arm.
Bottom line is we improve our 4wds by modifying them.

I dont think this thread was ever ment to be serious lol

oh and one more thing: GU coil supports are weak and break!!! hahahaha got another one in there!

[Alitis007]

I know Lucas mate, thanks and i'm not taking it too heart, trust me you would know lol i sound a bit full on some times and i don't know everything but i learn fast haha.

BTW GU's rule and GQ's pull !!!! GQ drivers drink wine and have a pee, GU drivers drink beer and take a PISS! Lol

[taslucas]

BTW GU's rule and GQ's pull !!!! GQ drivers drink wine and have a pee, GU drivers drink beer and take a PISS! Lol

But your not allowed to piss in a carpark lmao

[Alitis007]

But your not allowed to piss in a carpark lmao

Where ever and when ever mate, i own a GU so it comes with the territory! hahaha

[Ben-e-boy]

I know Lucas mate, thanks and i'm not taking it too heart, trust me you would know lol i sound a bit full on some times and i don't know everything but i learn fast haha.

BTW GU's rule and GQ's pull GU's out of the sh1t !!!! GQ drivers drink wine and have a pee, GU drivers drink beer and take a PISS! and dont go 4wding Lol

never has the dribble from your mouth/ keyboard been so true.... lmfao

[Winnie]

George what are you getting yourself into!? These 3 QLD GQs are going to make mince meat out of your soccer mum GU!

Hey Benny, George is gonna come with me to do Big Red!

[Timmo]

Gu's all the way

[Ben-e-boy]

George what are you getting yourself into!? These 3 QLD GQs are going to make mince meat out of your soccer mum GU!

Hey Benny, George is gonna come with me to do Big Red!

no I have the widowmaker reserved for him.

big red is all yours lmao

[Clunk]

Did I see someone mention GU coil supports!!!@!????? Lmfao

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/2.jpg

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Winnie]

Yeah, he will see me crawl up Big Red no dramas and lure him into a false sense of security, good thinking Benny!

[Ben-e-boy]

Yeah, he will see me crawl up Big Red no dramas and lure him into a false sense of security, good thinking Benny!

there will be no false sence of security when you are on your roof hahahahah

[Winnie]

Yeah but she'll be right it's a GQ just roll it back on it's wheels and keep going lol

[nissannewby]

Back to you Georgie boy. Any of your arguments I see as null and void my friend with the fact your looking at an engine swap. The word practicality comes into mind with toughness. Have a look at any comp seen most are gq's. yes they use gu diffs but the only difference here is cv joint size the rest is still all the same. A GQ is tougher straight of the box hence why myself and mud runner own both. The GQ for the hard and rough and the GU for the comfortable touring.

Back to your engine swap. You will certainly be making the car weaker if you choose the Chev route while bolt parts and aftermarket is great, their longevity and reliability isn't great compared to that of a well maintained Nissan donk. As for your suspension worries show me any decent drag, race or street car that doesn't have some form o modified suspension.

As for the the earlier remarks about rocky track, if you can't get up this in a standard gu ( maybe a 2" lift as most are these days) then you should put a for sale sign on it straight up.

Bring on September I say ;)

[Alitis007]

Oh George ... what have you done?

I'll tell you ...

Started something that you're going to regret!! lol

On ya my little Lebanese mate, at least you're sticking to your guns!!! lmao

By the way, we roll into Victoria in September - sooooooo, book your leave now and make sure your "other" car is running well .... you'll need it to get to work the week after we head out and hit the tracks!!

LOVE IT!!!!!!! After a crap day, I finally have a smile on my face ....

Just so people are aware (and I'm not someone who pisses in pockets), having spent a weekend with him working on Healy's truck, I can say without hesitation that George is a bloody good lad - misguided and naive, but a bloody good lad none the less!!! lol


Scotty (Bigrig)

Thanks mate, your a top bloke aswell ! Jus keep the cloths on mate haha

I'm one stubborn GREEK ( not hairy enough to be a lebo and i don't spit that much when i talk, do i ?? PML!) that wont back down for nothing, the bollocks are too big for my own good lol.

I can't take leave but if its around a public holiday or the weekend i'll be there and the GU wont let me down so no need for my other car, unless you QLDERS knock stuff off it to "enhance" your Q's haha...

[Alitis007]

never has the dribble from your mouth/ keyboard been so true.... lmfao

I thought you would like this comment lmao

BTW GU's rule and GQ's pull !!!! GQ drivers drink wine and have a pee, GU drivers drink beer and take a PISS! Lol

[nissannewby]

Not picking on Georgie but he seems to be the only one on team GU lol.

[Alitis007]

George what are you getting yourself into!? These 3 QLD GQs are going to make mince meat out of your soccer mum GU!

Hey Benny, George is gonna come with me to do Big Red!

Keep your pants on big boy, my U will chew up that big red, isn't that tomato sauce anyway lol

[Alitis007]

Not picking on Georgie but he seems to be the only one on team GU lol.

DW Matty 1 greek = 10 men so all good lmao

[Alitis007]

Listen to you!! Little Taliban marathon runner suggesting we'd sabotage your truck just to gain advantage ...

Well ...

Yes ....

We would ...

But it wouldn't change the outcome!!! lmao

Stick to your guns fella - but you're going to be in for an eye opener!!!

p.s. do the clothes really have to stay on??


Scotty (Bigrig)

All i'm saying is YES and NO, you choose what answer they fit hahahahaa

[nissannewby]

DW Matty 1 greek = 10 men so all good lmao

Maybe 10 Victorian men or whatever they are :p. Us QLDers are only comparable to legends.

[Alitis007]

Back to you Georgie boy. Any of your arguments I see as null and void my friend with the fact your looking at an engine swap. The word practicality comes into mind with toughness. Have a look at any comp seen most are gq's. yes they use gu diffs but the only difference here is cv joint size the rest is still all the same. A GQ is tougher straight of the box hence why myself and mud runner own both. The GQ for the hard and rough and the GU for the comfortable touring.

Back to your engine swap. You will certainly be making the car weaker if you choose the Chev route while bolt parts and aftermarket is great, their longevity and reliability isn't great compared to that of a well maintained Nissan donk. As for your suspension worries show me any decent drag, race or street car that doesn't have some form o modified suspension.

As for the the earlier remarks about rocky track, if you can't get up this in a standard gu ( maybe a 2" lift as most are these days) then you should put a for sale sign on it straight up.

Bring on September I say ;)

Firstly don't the GU diffs have a wider track??
Secondly most drag cars get re built every meet to make sure they are still serviceable and they also get scrutinized before every meet to check for stress fractures and to make sure their mods are legal.

I was tossing up between a td42 or the ls1, more so the ls coz i already have a motor sitting doing nothing but was in 2 minds about it. Just depends what the bank account looks like when i make up my mind, so that story will be continued lol.

Whats rocky track ?? Lol

[nissannewby]

I think someone else said something about rocky track.

[Alitis007]

Maybe 10 Victorian men or whatever they are :p. Us QLDers are only comparable to legends.

Come on mate we all know once you take a QLDer out of the sun for too long and its all over lol, its like you guy seize up or something lmaoo

[Nutta28]

Someone earlier said that they have long arms I'm just wandering how do u find them and do u think that they r worth it or do u suggest to just get some adjustable once.
Also I'm looking at putting 4.11 diffs in my 4.8 auto but the gu didn't come with the 4.11 in the back with the small diff so it looks like I'm going to be looking at u gq boys for diffs

[Nutta28]

As and a 2 inch lift mine doesn't even have that so I had to crawl up on stock hight suspention stock tyres with 36 psi in them and I was still dragging my diffs and factory side steps.
Also when I bought my 4.8 ti I was also looking at gq's but it's hard to find good once these days that don't cost the same as a gu

[nissannewby]

Long arms are certainly worth it. Why do you want to change ratios? You don't need GQ diffs as such just any rear but the gu has a wider track.

I'm hearing ya about the prices there is a GQ advertised up here for 35k.

[93patrol]

28976
Nuff said


28977

Found it on gumtree over here thought wtf???


Just tap it in just tappy tappy tappy

[Ben-e-boy]

Someone earlier said that they have long arms I'm just wandering how do u find them and do u think that they r worth it or do u suggest to just get some adjustable once.
Also I'm looking at putting 4.11 diffs in my 4.8 auto but the gu didn't come with the 4.11 in the back with the small diff so it looks like I'm going to be looking at u gq boys for diffs

the long arms are awsome. I dont know why Mudrunner hasnt put them on the GQ yet :):thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::tease:

[Ben-e-boy]

DW Matty 1 greek = 10 men so all good lmao

one of my best mates is greek... bloody stubborn wog basterd he is

[Parksy]

My gq is tough because its a patrol. You're gu is tough because it too is a patrol. Nuff said.

[Winnie]

My gq is tough because its a patrol. You're gu is tough because it too is a patrol. Nuff said.

But yours is the tougher of the two... Lol

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[taslucas]

My gq is tough because its a patrol. You're gu is tough because it too is a patrol. Nuff said.

Theres no room for fence sitters here!!

FanTapstic!

[Alitis007]

Every one who has a GU and a GQ ( Matty and Daz ) can't comment!! Lol

[Nutta28]

Long arms are certainly worth it. Why do you want to change ratios? You don't need GQ diffs as such just any rear but the gu has a wider track.

I'm hearing ya about the prices there is a GQ advertised up here for 35k.

The reason I want to change ratios is because the 4.8 autos eaven with standed tyres are to tall at 3.5 and I want to run 33's as my on road tyres and 35-36's off road so the 4.11 would be about perfect. I'm not after the hole diff and housing just the ring and pinion and the gu doesn't have any models with the 4.11's in the small h233 diff but the gq dose if that makes sence

[Winnie]

Every one who has a GU and a GQ ( Matty and Daz ) can't comment!! Lol

They will both say that they use the GQ for the rough stuff because it's tougher, and the GU for comfort because they're sissies LMAO!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Parksy]

I know the gq's were used for military applications, anyone know if the gu's were used?

[taslucas]

Every one who has a GU and a GQ ( Matty and Daz ) can't comment!! Lol

Having both makes them far more worthy of commenting!
And both their GUs would eat your GU for breakfast!

FanTapstic!

[Ben-e-boy]

I know the gq's were used for military applications, anyone know if the gu's were used?

not that I know of.
unless someone come up with a mititary spec gu I think you have finished the arument lmao

[Winnie]

Having both makes them far more worthy of commenting!
And both their GUs would eat your GU for breakfast!

FanTapstic!

And both their GQs would eat their GUs for breakfast!

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Alitis007]

The difference is the 0 care factor for the GQ its like wearing your suit to change your engine oil

[Winnie]

Come on George.... Apparently you've seen Darrens GQ, so just how tough is it?

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[taslucas]

The difference is the 0 care factor for the GQ its like wearing your suit to change your engine oil

Yeah that's right, you don't care about driving a Q on gnarly tracks because you know you won't hurt it. But you have to take care of your towny GU

FanTapstic!

[Alitis007]

Come on George.... Apparently you've seen Darrens GQ, so just how tough is it?

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

In appearance very, with the GU diffs i'd say 10% tougher!! Turbo diesel exhaust note, makes you want a diesel lol the GU 4 on the other hand has a more menacing stance!!

[Alitis007]

Yeah that's right, you don't care about driving a Q on gnarly tracks because you know you won't hurt it. But you have to take care of your towny GU

FanTapstic!

The GU can handle the rough stuff too just will put a bigger hole in you pocket.

I just remembered, on a GU the stabilizer bar is almost 2.5 times as thick as the GQ's!!

[MudRunnerTD]

The UN peace keepers use GUs.

My GUIV is a Tough Tourer. My GQ is an extreme car and has been set up for that purpose. Short trip stuff. You can't expect to USE it hard core and expect it to then do a 5000km touring trip! Regardless of a GU or GQ it just not fair to the car or the rest of the trip.

If you have a GU setup like my GQ with all the bar work then Play Hard. Mine still has a plastic rear bumper and it took a few hits the other week at Tallarook. Would prefer not to wreck it.

The GU is way more comfortable but is WAY WAY bigger too! And in the bush in the tight stuff it rubs on more stuff.

If you just want the comfort then seriously buy a 200 series! Nice! But not a patrol!

I reckon they both ROCK! They are both Nissan Patrols and both have a TD42T! Life is good

[Ben-e-boy]

The UN peace keepers use GUs.

My GUIV is a Tough Tourer. My GQ is an extreme car and has been set up for that purpose. Short trip stuff. You can't expect to USE it hard core and expect it to then do a 5000km touring trip! Regardless of a GU or GQ it just not fair to the car or the rest of the trip.

If you have a GU setup like my GQ with all the bar work then Play Hard. Mine still has a plastic rear bumper and it took a few hits the other week at Tallarook. Would prefer not to wreck it.

The GU is way more comfortable but is WAY WAY bigger too! And in the bush in the tight stuff it rubs on more stuff.

If you just want the comfort then seriously buy a 200 series! Nice! But not a patrol!

I reckon they both ROCK! They are both Nissan Patrols and both have a TD42T! Life is good

Thats exactly what I expect mine to do. If I set it up right I dont think I am expecting too much.

[MudRunnerTD]

Thats exactly what I expect mine to do. If I set it up right I dont think I am expecting too much.

Yeah but yours is set up for a different kind of Hard Ben. Slow Rock Crawling with Treps and reduction gears is difficult, great fun and tough as hell but not really that taxing on the car in real terms. Playing Hard in teh Mud and scrub down this end and in and out of Bog holes and belting the crap out of your car really does take its toll.

In saying that though, one of the guys i did the Madigan Line with was in his GQ and also did the Mud trip with me in his GQ and took its toll. he now says that he has to choose, his car is a Tourer and carries the weight of a Touring car and is not the best setup for flogging into the Otways.

[Ben-e-boy]

Yeah but yours is set up for a different kind of Hard Ben. Slow Rock Crawling with Treps and reduction gears is difficult, great fun and tough as hell but not really that taxing on the car in real terms. Playing Hard in teh Mud and scrub down this end and in and out of Bog holes and belting the crap out of your car really does take its toll.

In saying that though, one of the guys i did the Madigan Line with was in his GQ and also did the Mud trip with me in his GQ and took its toll. he now says that he has to choose, his car is a Tourer and carries the weight of a Touring car and is not the best setup for flogging into the Otways.

ahh ok sorry I understand where you are coming from now. I agree after seeing the damage you do I cant really argue that point :P.

[mudski]

The UN peace keepers use GUs.

My GUIV is a Tough Tourer. My GQ is an extreme car and has been set up for that purpose. Short trip stuff. You can't expect to USE it hard core and expect it to then do a 5000km touring trip! Regardless of a GU or GQ it just not fair to the car or the rest of the trip.

If you have a GU setup like my GQ with all the bar work then Play Hard. Mine still has a plastic rear bumper and it took a few hits the other week at Tallarook. Would prefer not to wreck it.

The GU is way more comfortable but is WAY WAY bigger too! And in the bush in the tight stuff it rubs on more stuff.

If you just want the comfort then seriously buy a 200 series! Nice! But not a patrol!

I reckon they both ROCK! They are both Nissan Patrols and both have a TD42T! Life is good
Agreed. This argument will never be laid to rest. It all comes down to personal choice. My 3L goes quite hard and for now is reliable. I do wish it was a 4.2 but as it happens to anyone buying a Patrol, you get what you can afford at the time.
Just before the meet at Andy's I missed out on the golden opportunity of a life time. A factory turbo intercooled 4.2 with 250k on the clock with a blown turbo for under $1300! With radiator, IP and anything I needed to convert my Troll over off the donor car. That will teach me not to remember to set my phone to tell me when its going off on Ebay. A few tears were had that night...

[MudRunnerTD]

Agreed. This argument will never be laid to rest. It all comes down to personal choice. My 3L goes quite hard and for now is reliable. I do wish it was a 4.2 but as it happens to anyone buying a Patrol, you get what you can afford at the time.
Just before the meet at Andy's I missed out on the golden opportunity of a life time. A factory turbo intercooled 4.2 with 250k on the clock with a blown turbo for under $1300! With radiator, IP and anything I needed to convert my Troll over off the donor car. That will teach me not to remember to set my phone to tell me when its going off on Ebay. A few tears were had that night...

Let me introduce you to Just Snipe (https://www.justsnipe.com/auctions/signin.asp?r=%2Fauctions%2Fmembers%2Fcp%2Easp) I have been using it on eBay for nearly 10 years and rarely miss what i bid on and Never pay more than i wanted to by getting sucked in at the end, Never miss the end of the auction and am a Very Happy Free User of this program!

[mudski]

Believe it or not I actually have that program. Have had it for years but stopped using it a while ago because it wasn't sniping and I found I was losing more than winning. I must get back onto this program.



I tapped that app...

[NissanGQ4.2]

Isn't the GU's body shape a copy of the crappy Toyota Land Cruiser????

And what did the GQ copy???

[rotor138]

A shoebox:)

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

[Alitis007]

Isn't the GU's body shape a copy of the crappy Toyota Land Cruiser????

And what did the GQ copy???

Hows a GU a copy of a cruiser?? I'll take a pic of a cruiser that looks more like a GQ and has the same wind resistance as a brick !!! Lol

[NissanGQ4.2]

Hows a GU a copy of a cruiser?? I'll take a pic of a cruiser that looks more like a GQ and has the same wind resistance as a brick !!! Lol

GU looks like a Cruiser 2 me and I have had many non 4wd people say 2 me is that a Patrol while passing a TL.

The only reason a cruiser would look like a GQ is because the owner obviously made a mistake while shopping for a four wheel drive and regrets not buying a GQ

Show me some pics George

[Nutta28]

It's so true the gq dose look a bit like a 60 and the gu dose look a bit like a 80 hell I'm surprised that nissan hasn't made the y62 look like the 100/105 cruisers.
I don't under stand y all the gu guys keep saying that the gq looks like a 60 cruiser when if anything the series 1,2, and 3 gu's look more like an 80 cruiser then what the gq dose a 60. And I'm a gu guy and I'm saying this. Also saying that a gq looks like a 60 is actually a compliment because the 60 is probably on of the toughest 4wds that was make and that is saying something considering its the the only Toyota that u could say is tough and it's also one of the roughest 4wds to be made as well lol

[nissannewby]

The y62 looks like a 200 series :(

[Nutta28]

Well we're all stuffed then if our cars look like cruisers.

[BigRAWesty]

The y62 looks like a 200 series :(

Yea I'm a bit disappointed by that.. defiantly a soccer mums car..

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[Alitis007]

GU looks like a Cruiser 2 me and I have had many non 4wd people say 2 me is that a Patrol while passing a TL.

The only reason a cruiser would look like a GQ is because the owner obviously made a mistake while shopping for a four wheel drive and regrets not buying a GQ

Show me some pics George

Rushed this pic looks more like a q from the front
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[Ben-e-boy]

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least visible difference GU and 100 series

[Alitis007]

The GU looks tiny compared to the 100s lol, those cruises are the RV model not the GXL.

So Nissan and Toyota are so competitive they look similar!

[MudRunnerTD]

The GU looks tiny compared to the 100s lol, those cruises are the RV model not the GXL.

So Nissan and Toyota are so competitive they look similar!


Ever looked at a Falcon and a Commodore from behind at 30m!

Or a Hilux and a Navara Dual Cab or even a Great Wall Dual cab! Crazy similar!

[taslucas]

Ever looked at a Falcon and a Commodore from behind at 30m!

Or a Hilux and a Navara Dual Cab or even a Great Wall Dual cab! Crazy similar!

I was just about to say the same.
I don't think manufacturers really try to copy each other, rather, they are all following the same styling trends and contemptory designs that are popular at the time.

FanTapstic!

[Alitis007]

Ever looked at a Falcon and a Commodore from behind at 30m!

Or a Hilux and a Navara Dual Cab or even a Great Wall Dual cab! Crazy similar!

Ok, ok you got me on a technicality lol.

I'll be back when i have the next brain wave haha.

GU's are still tougher!!!!

[ozzyboy]

well it all makes sense. gu owners even wanna label themselves as GQ's

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/nissan-patrol-1997-13913419?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=34&page=3&eapi=2&__N=1246%201252%201247%201282%204294963846%2042949 63358%201216&num=15&silo=Stock&Range=Price%3a20000%2c50000%7e1%7cEngineSize%3a400 0%2c4500&sort=default

[taslucas]

Haha, he probably thought he'd get more hits lol

FanTapstic!

[Alitis007]

Lucas wheres those videos you said you will take last weekend to show how tuff your Q is ??

[Clunk]

Lucas wheres those videos you said you will take last weekend to show how tuff your Q is ??

Same place yours are ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

Lucas wheres those videos you said you will take last weekend to show how tuff your Q is ??

Are you still here!!!

Stump....... Stump........ Got nuff'n

:eck05:

[taslucas]

Lucas wheres those videos you said you will take last weekend to show how tuff your Q is ??

i was too busy driving:)

all the previously posted vids will have to do for now

[Alitis007]

Same place yours are ;)

I cant drive and video my self out of the car at the same time mate, where are yours ?? Lots of show from you but no go ??

[Alitis007]

Are you still here!!!

Stump....... Stump........ Got nuff'n

:eck05:

Can't get rid of me ! Lol

[NissanGQ4.2]

Rushed this pic looks more like a q from the front
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GQ's defiantly look better and go better so don't see the similarity......... think I would prefer to jump ship and buy an old GQ looking Toyota ( so u say ) before buying a GU :)

I don't see the point in going backwards in life

[Alitis007]

i was too busy driving:)

all the previously posted vids will have to do for now

Yeh k, what did you type in youtube to find them ?? Lol

[Alitis007]

GQ's defiantly look better and go better so don't see the similarity......... think I would prefer to jump ship and buy an old GQ looking Toyota ( so u say ) before buying a GU :)

I don't see the point in going backwards in life

Cant go much further back from a Q, and i'm sure if you cruised around in a GU you would think twice about the Q!! Lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Cant go much further back from a Q, and i'm sure if you cruised around in a GU you would think twice about the Q!! Lol

I drive my GU every day and love it but when I get in the GQ I know it's play time!!!

[taslucas]

Yeh k, what did you type in youtube to find them ?? Lol

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?6252-A-paddock-somewhere.....

[NissanGQ4.2]

I wish I had bought a real 4x4, One day I'll rid this sh!t box GU and buy one


Well said George, well said :animierte-smilies-t:tease::animierte-smilies-t

[Alitis007]

I drive my GU every day and love it but when I get in the GQ I know it's play time!!!

But when your doing a track in the GU it feels better

[Alitis007]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?6252-A-paddock-somewhere.....

Still didn't answer mu question lol

[Alitis007]

Well said George, well said :animierte-smilies-t:tease::animierte-smilies-t

Hahahaa thats low mate!! I might have to come to sydney now and " FIX" your Q good and proper lol

[nissannewby]

But when your doing a track in the GU it feels better

Not really. I recently done a track in my GU that I have also done in the GQ and the GQ would have eaten it up without an issue while the fat GU still did it but not as well :p

[NissanGQ4.2]

Hahahaa thats low mate!! I might have to come to sydney now and " FIX" your Q good and proper lol

hahahaha, yeh looking for a cheap run around sh!t box at the moment so I can take mile pile of a sh!tbox of the road so I can get the warranty work done on the roof and bonnet........... NRMA were to tight in the a!se to pay the 100 bucks for a courtesy car for a week.

Would you suggest I buy a GU *LMAO*

[MudRunnerTD]

Not really. I recently done a track in my GU that I have also done in the GQ and the GQ would have eaten it up without an issue while the fat GU still did it but not as well :p

That's the real difference! The GQ is a Lean Mean Machine! The GU is a big Fat Jason recliner with with attitude

[taslucas]

lol the leather backed lazy boy

[Alitis007]

Not really. I recently done a track in my GU that I have also done in the GQ and the GQ would have eaten it up without an issue while the fat GU still did it but not as well :p

Thats coz your too scared to unleash the big boys full potential unlike your Q you don't care if you break it!!

[Clunk]

I cant drive and video my self out of the car at the same time mate, where are yours ?? Lots of show from you but no go ??

And mine are the same place yours are ;)

But at least I've put plenty of fotas up unlike your good self

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[nissannewby]

Wrong I busted a side step and dented the sill, pushed the rear tail lights up agains the tray, got it bogged to the chassis so your running out of options.

[Alitis007]

hahahaha, yeh looking for a cheap run around sh!t box at the moment so I can take mile pile of a sh!tbox of the road so I can get the warranty work done on the roof and bonnet........... NRMA were to tight in the a!se to pay the 100 bucks for a courtesy car for a week.

Would you suggest I buy a GU *LMAO*

You can't handle the U mate, driving a GQ has made you soft!! Lol. I say invest in a donkey, all you need to do is feed it and it will take you to work and up any track easier then the Q too hahahaha

You could just ride a push bike lol but seriously WTF!! Tell NRMA its not your problem and you should be entitled to the car coz if the job was done right in the first place you wouldn't be having the conversation with them now, so either they or the panel beater should supply you with a courtesy car. OR you could just try and squeeze 4 g's out of them and get a full respray for 2 lol i would try and get a pay out and get it sprayed, but my cousin is a spray painter so i only pay materials and the oven and feed him pizza and slurpees haha

[Alitis007]

And mine are the same place yours are ;)

But at least I've put plenty of fotas up unlike your good self

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

I've only owned my trol since August last year, i've been out on the tracks 2 times with the forum and thats it!! There was a few pics and vids of me on the woods point thread and thats the best i can do for now lol

[Alitis007]

Wrong I busted a side step and dented the sill, pushed the rear tail lights up agains the tray, got it bogged to the chassis so your running out of options.

You and Darren are killing me haha you 2 should be fence sitters and let me harass the other GQ boys but instead your spurring them on lol

Where are the other bloody GU owners?? I'm the only one holding up the fort......


Ahh well GU's ARE STILL KING!!

[taslucas]

The difference is the 0 care factor for the GQ its like wearing your suit to change your engine oil


Thats coz your too scared to unleash the big boys full potential unlike your Q you don't care if you break it!!

Dont worry guys, he's running out of new material. just going round in circles now lol

[Alitis007]

Dont worry guys, he's running out of new material. just going round in circles now lol

Your a thread whore lol shouldn't you be upgrading your Q with GU parts to make it tougher ?? Lol

[Clunk]

You spin me right round, baby right round, like a record baby, round round round round.........

[Alitis007]

Soo a GQ is smaller then the GU and its lighter with a smaller track wheres as the GU has more stability and better handling

[Clunk]

Handles about as well as a whale out of water

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[TPC]

You GQ owners just want to impress the country girls.

[Clunk]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/17.jpg

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[TPC]

Those GQ boys are special.

[Clunk]

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Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Winnie]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/17.jpg

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOLD!! lmao

[NissanGQ4.2]

You can't handle the U mate, driving a GQ has made you soft!! Lol. I say invest in a donkey, all you need to do is feed it and it will take you to work and up any track easier then the Q too hahahaha

You could just ride a push bike lol but seriously WTF!! Tell NRMA its not your problem and you should be entitled to the car coz if the job was done right in the first place you wouldn't be having the conversation with them now, so either they or the panel beater should supply you with a courtesy car. OR you could just try and squeeze 4 g's out of them and get a full respray for 2 lol i would try and get a pay out and get it sprayed, but my cousin is a spray painter so i only pay materials and the oven and feed him pizza and slurpees haha

Your right George, I could not handle driving a GU that would be way 2 depressing.

If I didn't have 2 kids to pick up from School twice a week then there wouldn't be a drama with the GQ coming of the road.....Would of kept my dirt bike and registered it rather than selling it.

Thought about asking for a payout instead, not sure if they would come 2 the party though. I'm in no hurry to find a run around, If NRMA say I'm taking 2 long about it I will hit them up with a pay out then. And yes I said to them the exact same about being entitled to a courtesy car but can't be bothered to fight them on it at the moment , I think his words were "the job is 13 years old and your lucky to be getting it done, we had one the other day with sun fade that we arn't paying out on" or something stupid like that.

[Alitis007]

Your right George, I could not handle driving a GU that would be way 2 depressing.

If I didn't have 2 kids to pick up from School twice a week then there wouldn't be a drama with the GQ coming of the road.....Would of kept my dirt bike and registered it rather than selling it.

Thought about asking for a payout instead, not sure if they would come 2 the party though. I'm in no hurry to find a run around, If NRMA say I'm taking 2 long about it I will hit them up with a pay out then. And yes I said to them the exact same about being entitled to a courtesy car but can't be bothered to fight them on it at the moment , I think his words were "the job is 13 years old and your lucky to be getting it done, we had one the other day with sun fade that we arn't paying out on" or something stupid like that.

If they have a lifetime warranty on their work then you should be sweet, oxidization is not covered but peeling paint and crows feet should be. I would have told the assessor hes lucky that they are going to do the repair or i would have taken to court to get back all the premiums that have been paid over the years the repair bill coz they are giving false advertising....

[Ben-e-boy]

Lucas wheres those videos you said you will take last weekend to show how tuff your Q is ??

Im still waiting on yours too mate.


Soo a GQ is smaller then the GU and its lighter with a smaller track wheres as the GU has more stability and better handling

how? the body is wider with the track to match, The COG is pretty much the same the suspension is pretty much the same?

[NissanGQ4.2]

If they have a lifetime warranty on their work then you should be sweet, oxidization is not covered but peeling paint and crows feet should be. I would have told the assessor hes lucky that they are going to do the repair or i would have taken to court to get back all the premiums that have been paid over the years the repair bill coz they are giving false advertising....

Yes lifetime warranty on paintwork, peeling paintwork and cracking has sun fade now but it started to peel and crack before the sun fade, Mick on here looked at it the other week and said it was bad prep work :)

[Nutta28]

Im still waiting on yours too mate.



how? the body is wider with the track to match, The COG is pretty much the same the suspension is pretty much the same?

Exactly so how is it that the gq can attack tracks better and we all no that the difference in how wide the wheel base is is minimal.

[Nutta28]

Also the thread is about which is tougher not which is better looking or more capable, which is more comfy e.c.
It comes down to just a few things in it.
The gu has the engine except for the 3L
The cv's, axils, big h260 diff in most manual models except the 2.8L's
The 4.8L's have bigger brakes so why the Q's brakes over heat on windy roads the 4.8s still got plenty of brakes.
Higher towing capacity I think I haven't had a chance to double check yet so you let me no if I've got that wrong.

Where as the gq has the body and bumpers
U q guys love to say about the gear box but they only put that weak gear box in the 2.8L's and the 3.0L's so you can't claim that one
And if I have forgotten anything I'm shore u Q guy will let me know but just make shore that it is about strength/toughness because most of the things that get brought up have nothing to do with these strength or toughness. It's not which once better its which ones tougher

[taslucas]

Also the thread is about which is tougher not which is better looking or more capable, which is more comfy e.c.
It comes down to just a few things in it.
The gu has the engine except for the 3L
The cv's, axils, big h260 diff in most manual models except the 2.8L's
The 4.8L's have bigger brakes so why the Q's brakes over heat on windy roads the 4.8s still got plenty of brakes.
Higher towing capacity I think I haven't had a chance to double check yet so you let me no if I've got that wrong.

Where as the gq has the body and bumpers
U q guys love to say about the gear box but they only put that weak gear box in the 2.8L's and the 3.0L's so you can't claim that one
And if I have forgotten anything I'm shore u Q guy will let me know but just make shore that it is about strength/toughness because most of the things that get brought up have nothing to do with these strength or toughness. It's not which once better its which ones tougher

Its also about light hearted sh!t slinging mate so don't take it too seriously hey?


FanTapstic!

[NissanGQ4.2]

And if I have forgotten anything I'm shore u Q guy will let me know but just make shore that it is about strength/toughness because most of the things that get brought up have nothing to do with these strength or toughness. It's not which once better its which ones tougher

A GQ is made up of 70% steel 20% plastic

A GU is made up of 50% steel 50% plastic

I rest my case *L*

[Nutta28]

A GQ is made up of 70% steel 20% plastic

A GU is made up of 50% steel 50% plastic

I rest my case *L*

Once again u go back to the bodie do u Q guys have any new arguments
Now who's going round and around and around lol

[Nutta28]

Just to let u Q's no I bought my 4.8 for one reason and that is to be used off road and that's why I went for the GU + it also because of those so called soft spots its also better for those other things I use it for

[MudRunnerTD]

Did you know that Nissan had an idea in 1988......Coils all round on their premier 4x4 flagship Wagon, the mighty Patrol. Took that idea from the Poms in the Landy (the only good part about the Landy by the way)

In 1988 Nissan released the GQ Coil sprung wagon way out in front of the Toyota 60 series which got left at the gate in favour of the new GQ. The farmers and Miners stuck by the 75 series and Toyota were left wandering.

For 10 Years the GQ reigned supreme. Toyota brought out a bigger car than the GQ in the 80 in late 1989 using the heads-up from Nissan to make a reasonable car with a number of big floors! (See my Sig line for details ;) )

Knowing that the Driveline of the GQ was a Class leader they set about making it stronger where they could (not many places) using the upgraded technology of the day (Bigger brakes) and delivered a bigger car in the GU to accommodate the family better and compete with the family size of the 80.

But lets face it the GU is an Upgraded GQ..... Hell Yeah it is! Of Course it is! Thats the idea! Thanks Nissan!

Now coming back to reality for a sec though.........

The Nissan Drive train the the strongest in its class. Go to any Competition and you will struggle to find a competitive GU though??? You will find 98% of the field is a GQ running a GU diff and brakes and a GU Steering box and a GU fuel Pump as they were legitimately upgraded by the factory. But..... the car of choice is the GQ because they are smaller, lighter and easier to fix, harder to bend and less flash stuff to go wrong.


Sorry???? What was the question again?

Without a doubt the QU is the strongest, Toughest, Mightiest Production 4x4 in our market.


The Mighty Nissan Patrol.

[taslucas]

Fence sitter,..........
Lol

FanTapstic!

[Ben-e-boy]

Once again u go back to the bodie do u Q guys have any new arguments
Now who's going round and around and around lol

hahahaha I ran out of things 15 pages ago I have just been stirring Alitis007 (georgie GUrl or stubborn wog)
All I need to know is that my GQ is as tough as the toughest on this forum lol

[growler2058]

Phark still going!!! GU is a GUrly hairdressers car...............not tuff!!!!!!!!!!

[Nutta28]

All I need to know is that my GQ is as tough as the toughest on this forum lol

I know where ur coming from as standed the both the the Q and U r pretty tough but once I finish with my U it will be bloody tough. As it is standed ATM I'm still figuring out exactly what I'm going to do to it but I'm thinking bar work all around, 3 inch suspension, twin lockers, change from the way to tall 3.5 diffs to 4.11's, crome moly cv's, and thinking super swamper Q78 16's

[NissanGQ4.2]

Once again u go back to the bodie do u Q guys have any new arguments
Now who's going round and around and around lol

We don't need new arguments, we all know which one is tougher, body wise, driveline wise, mechanically wise.

[nissannewby]

I wouldn't bother with the cv's comp guys don't even run chromo cvs in the gu diffs.

[Clunk]

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Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[AB]

Let's just get our cars out boys and well find out first hand...enough said...lol.

[nissannewby]

Really AB :p. if that's the case it's a qld thing cos Vic doesn't seem to have tracks worthy of testing toughness :p

[MudRunnerTD]

Really AB :p. if that's the case it's a qld thing cos Vic doesn't seem to have tracks worthy of testing toughness :p

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Abused in Victoria

[AB]

Really AB :p. if that's the case it's a qld thing cos Vic doesn't seem to have tracks worthy of testing toughness :p

Really newby...lol...you went up one track in the entire state of Victoria and now ride off the entire state...bahaha. I'm sure we all have great tracks!!!

[Ben-e-boy]

Let's just get our cars out boys and well find out first hand...enough said...lol.
and a tape measure

[Ben-e-boy]

Really AB :p. if that's the case it's a qld thing cos Vic doesn't seem to have tracks worthy of testing toughness :p


you are on your own mate lmfao

[MudRunnerTD]

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Action%20Pics%204B/2012%20Extreme%204x4ing/IMG_0911.jpg

[MudRunnerTD]

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Action%20Pics%204B/2012%20Extreme%204x4ing/IMG_0933.jpg

[MudRunnerTD]

Bhaaaaaaaaaaa

;)


Love it!

[AB]

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Action%20Pics%204B/2012%20Extreme%204x4ing/IMG_0933.jpg

C'mon georgey boy...where's the pics...lmao

[Clunk]

Let's just get our cars out boys and well find out first hand...enough said...lol.

Trouble is the GUrlys would struggle to get out of the supermarket carparks ;)

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Clunk]

Hope you dont mind MR but I thought I'd add a little something for ya.......
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Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Love those shots Daz...... really makes me not want to go to the Ottaways !!!!!

Dont worry George knows fully well he has done bugger all driving and does not really know of tough tracks!!!

When I think his rig is maybe a bit more prepared I will take him somewhere he can start bragging about... he he!!!

[growler2058]

Definitely never seen a hairdressers car in such a predicament Dazz

[Ben-e-boy]

I'll just post these while waiting for a GU owner to contribute

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[Clunk]

***snore***

And that about some up what its like to own a GUrly trol ;)

[Nutta28]

Nice pics to all of u who posted action shots of ur car.
I've only had my U for a couple of weeks now and is still stock so the only pics I've got of my are on rocky track and there not very impressive. Maybe when I get mine set up some of u Q guys will have to take me out so that I can prove to u that the U isn't that bad at all.
Keep it up guys I won't to see more action pics and where's the action pics of the U to add to the collection

[healy]

GU drivers aren't posers lol

[Clunk]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/18.jpg

[healy]

Ill take my U anywhere your Q can go and further

[Alitis007]

You know all you GQueens must have sore rrses from all the butt taps you guys keep giving each other !!

It takes a real GUy to drive a GUn of a car like a GU!! So suck it up princesses and admit it, you all secretly want a GU and keep trying to put it on us U owners to try and make your selfs feel better. Plus you GQueers couldn't handle the tuffness and rugged good looks of the mighty U, so keep trucking in your shoe box Q's so no other poor sole goes out and makes the mistake of buying an inferior car !!!!!! Hahahah

GU = Machine !!!!

[Alitis007]

Heres some pics ladies!!!
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[Ben-e-boy]

Heres some pics ladies!!!
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2905929060

Really.......... At least the GQ owners who posted pics here used their OWN vehicle to make a point NOT relying on 4wd action or the world wide web

[Alitis007]

Bloody kids hey ... you never know what they'll say ... lol

Have you seen my old profile (Bigrig) page pictures? Been there, done that ... and back in a Q (after owning 2 GU's and a GQ prior to that). Why? Firstly, not because I'm a fairy off road. Secondly, certainly not for comfort, even though my new seats are spectacular (XR6 seats), but because the way I play the U's were quite simply too bulky and nowhere near as nimble from a drivers perspective (think about it before you pipe off!) as the Q's.

Sure, the U's are awesome in their own right and essentially are the same "underneath" as a Q, but they feel like a truck to drive offroad and quite simply (IMHO) are not as "suited" to the tuff stuff as a Q.

Soooooo ... best you be well and truly prepared to back up your comments when Benny, Matty and me rock into Victoria later this year -- I'll be looking for you specifically Georgy boy!! ... been a while since Tank had something to prove ...

Bring it on!! lol


Scotty (Bigrig)

Bring on september!! Haha

[Alitis007]

Really.......... At least the GQ owners who posted pics here used their OWN vehicle to make a point NOT relying on 4wd action or the world wide web

Champ the people who have posted pics of their trols have owned them for a while and not just 8 months like me!! And have a bit more experience off rd lol

[Winnie]

Owned for 3 mths

If you're happy and you know it tap a post!

[Clunk]

George, this was a bit over 2 years ago, completely stock.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/19.jpg


Two years later and the only difference being a 2nd hand 2in lift and some 33in ATZs

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/05/20.jpg

I'm far from being experienced and still have a hell of a lot to learn but will have a go at most things.





Oh and by the way, as Benny has already said..... poor show on the GUrly pics.
Where's yours tough guy

[taslucas]

I could google pics of a space shuttle.. ...doesn't make me a rocket scientist! Lol

FanTapstic!

[Clunk]

I could google pics of a space shuttle.. ...doesn't make me a rocket scientist! Lol

FanTapstic!

I did and I am!!!! :D:D;)

[Alitis007]

Geez you lot are hard to please, you ask for pics, i give you 'em, there no good! Fussy fussy lol

[mudnut]

48 pages and the GUrls still haven't seen the light. Queens are rulers if I'm not mistaken.

[Clunk]

Geez you lot are hard to please, you ask for pics, i give you 'em, there no good! Fussy fussy lol

That's because they're not your pics lol

[chester]

GQ all the way baby,add one of these and their even tougher :tease:

[AB]

My god George you have just dug the biggest hole known to man.

These qlders are like elephants mate....lol....I'd be getting some kick ass insurance, a helmet and some tissues mate as you will be needing all three after that weekend.

[Clunk]

My god George you have just dug the biggest hole known to man.

These qlders are like elephants mate....lol....I'd be getting some kick ass insurance, a helmet and some tissues mate as you will be needing all three after that weekend.

And don't forget some damn good lube!!!!.. lol

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Personally I think there is enough divide out there and I like that we drive PATROLS!!!!!!!

[Alitis007]

My god George you have just dug the biggest hole known to man.

These qlders are like elephants mate....lol....I'd be getting some kick ass insurance, a helmet and some tissues mate as you will be needing all three after that weekend.

Dw mate i should be right lol i'll have to get stuck into my rig to make QLD proof hahaha

[Alitis007]

That's because they're not your pics lol

Technicalities mate!!

[Clunk]

Personally I think there is enough divide out there and I like that we drive PATROLS!!!!!!!

Back to your fence and be silent !!!!!! Lol

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

Back to your fence and be silent !!!!!! Lol

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

Like that hey.... well then, my 30 year old Hilux was better than a GU!!!!!!!!!!!

[Winnie]

My morning constitutional is better than a GU.

[Maxhead]

My morning constitutional is better than a GU.

Oi!! Wash your mouth out with your constitutional ...bwahahahha

[MudRunnerTD]

Like that hey.... well then, my 30 year old Hilux was better than a GU!!!!!!!!!!!

That is an Infraction! You are on notice! The Ban stick is poised to strike.

[growler2058]

Geez BA that's just going TOOOO far man

[Winnie]

Yeah we all like to have a bit of light hearted banter but far out Jonathan..... I am taking my ball and going home!

[Ben-e-boy]

Like that hey.... well then, my 30 year old Hilux was better than a GU!!!!!!!!!!!


Really Johnno................Really

[BigRAWesty]

Like that hey.... well then, my 30 year old Hilux was better than a GU!!!!!!!!!!!

Nu.. that's crossed the very wide line.. ban him.. :eek:

Kallen Westbrook
Owner of
Westy's Accessories (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?15134-Westy-s-Accessories.-A-small-back-yard-builder.)

[Alitis007]

Like that hey.... well then, my 30 year old Hilux was better than a GU!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats terrible mate, really really terrible, i'm speechless............ :(

[Nutta28]

That is bad u guys mite just to take him out bush so that the first side slope he sees he can put the old girl lux to rest by rolling her down the hill.

[Nutta28]

Is there room for one more Victorian GU when you guys come down from QLD in September

[Clunk]

Like that hey.... well then, my 30 year old Hilux was better than a GU!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah man way too far....... Bloody hell bud I was only havin a larf with ya........ Talk about taking it to extremes!!!!!!! Hahaha

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[Clunk]

I think BA should be made to wash his mouth out with Poohs constitutional ;)

Don't slap it, tap it!!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

He is hiding under a Rock!

[Bloodyaussie]

Glad I managed to get all you guys together instead of all this childish dribble you have all been blurting out... me of course am an angel and can do no wrong!!!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

That is bad u guys mite just to take him out bush so that the first side slope he sees he can put the old girl lux to rest by rolling her down the hill.

Do I know you????

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x260/jpgpz/IMG_0960.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/jpgpz/media/IMG_0960.jpg.html)

[nissannewby]

Wait til your wife hears about this :p

[Bloodyaussie]

Wait til your wife hears about this :p

She thinks we are all stupid!!!!!!!!!

[Winnie]

She's probably right lmao

[nissannewby]

She thinks we are all stupid!!!!!!!!!

Not all of us ;)

[Ben-e-boy]

what do we do???. we got a picture of a hilux before and owner posted their GU.

[Nutta28]

Do I know you????

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x260/jpgpz/IMG_0960.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/jpgpz/media/IMG_0960.jpg.html)

No you don't no me but we all no that all hiluxes and 40's are the same they just want to role at the sight of a side slope.

[Bloodyaussie]

what do we do???. we got a picture of a hilux before and owner posted their GU.

Was looking at a nice GQ ute today at the market driven by a very old couple... it had rim locks snorkel and other bits and it was very clean and tidy... wanted to make them an offer!!!

[Nutta28]

Is there room for one more Victorian GU when you guys come down from QLD in September

No one has answered so should I take that as a no there isn't room?

[nissannewby]

Always room.

[Nutta28]

You will have to let me no date and hopefully the U is a bit more set up by then

[Clunk]

She thinks we are all stupid!!!!!!!!!

That maybe so but doesn't stop the fact the GUs are inferior to GQs ;)

[leadsled]

GQ TD42T all the way

[Woof]

I can not believe you lot, Westy started the thread up again on Page 11 on the 25th of March this year and now it is up to 51 pages...LOL