Taslucas's TB42 Ti [Archive] - NissanPatrol.com.au Forum

taslucas

7th February 2012, 08:20 PM

Hi, so its about time i started a thread here.
As some of you might know, i have had a really bad run with the old girl chasing an auto fault.
Bought the GQ last july it had high k's but came with heaps of receipts for:
Fully rebuilt carby.
Rebuilt transmission.
Overhauled LPG system (all new apart from the tank)
New Radiator and hoses.
Brake lines.
New battery leads, connections, earth etc.

It also had:
2inch lift (been in a while, no brand names, looks heavy duty)
A custom snorkel including a t-t-t-t toyo cylinder type pre filter and some "real fancy" flex hose
2x Narva spotties.
CD player.
Some "unique" speakers.
Very neat interior.

then added:
33 inch cooper stt's on new 15x8 black steelies.
A Uniden UH7700NB UHF with 3Db aerial.

Then i had the problem with the auto box, the lockout torque converter keeped locking and unlocking on the highway.
So...... Took it to an auto specialist.
Fitted a rebuilt torque converter, still no go.
Found out there was no TPS (throttle position Switch),
there was no TPS because the carby was off a manual, therefore nowhere to put a tps!
Got a bottom plate off an auto carby, bought a brand new TPS, Fitted it all up.
still no go.
Specialist pulled the gearbox apart and searched every little nook: Verdict: the box is in perfect condition, "looks like its done less than 5000ks".
Traced it to be one of the Temp senders!
Anyway i bit the bullet and thought id throw a Nomad extreme aftermarket valve body while it was all apart.
Got the guys at Wholesale Automatics to build one up and fit another temp sender to it.
My mechanic fitted it up last friday and took it for a test run......
Still No Good!!!!
He racked his brain all weekend and come monday started double checking everything/anything!
Finally found that the temp sender was second hand and faulty!!!
Luckily he had one there, fitted it up and PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

Yep, this whole process kept my trol off the road for the last FIVE MONTHS!!!!

and tonight: I DROVE IT HOME WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:049::049::thumbup:

Soon i will post up some photos.

7th February 2012, 08:30 PM

Looks pretty neat though mate well done!

Whats the snorkel made out of?

taslucas

7th February 2012, 08:33 PM

Ok so as i said above, The trol has a funky snorkel setup....
Apart from the fact that the prefilter is from a "certain other brand", i think its actually a fairly good setup.
The only bad bit is the flexy pipe snorkel.....
Im going to replace it with one similar to ABs. The question is: Does anyone know a good way to attach a 2inch (or thereabouts) flexy pipe to a 3inch rubber elbow?

taslucas

7th February 2012, 08:34 PM

Notice the hardcore pillar bolts!

Bigrig

7th February 2012, 08:40 PM

Yep, need more photos boss!! Nike the colour - same as my brothers 93 Ti

taslucas

7th February 2012, 08:41 PM

Heres the 3inch rubber elbow.
Got some stainless lined up.

growler2058

7th February 2012, 09:00 PM

Bloody nice lookin troll mate cant wait to see it covered in mud ;-)

Trolatron

7th February 2012, 09:02 PM

Good lookind GQ mate. Cant get over those pillar bolts just so wrong lol.

taslucas

7th February 2012, 09:03 PM

Yep, need more photos boss!! Nike the colour - same as my brothers 93 Ti

OK OK i went out and got a few more, just for you Big!!

Bigrig

7th February 2012, 09:07 PM

OK OK i went out and got a few more, just for you Big!!

Top lad!!!! lol

Thanks mate - just good to see them from different angles and all that jazz!!

7th February 2012, 09:10 PM

Hi mate, Pirtek sell rubber reducers. Mine was a 4" to 3" reducer and I'm sure you could get 3" to 2".

You'll to have to get a short piece of two inch pipe (metal or plastic). Slide that into the flexi pipe (clamp) and slide the other end inside the 2" side of the reducer and clamp.

Then run a 3" pipe (metal or plastic) out the other side of the reducer (clamp) and into the elbow and (clamp).

Below is the reducer I used for the 3" outlet on the GU air filter to the 4" stainless steel on the snorkel.

I would try a Pirtek store for that or Purple Pig or a truck pasrts shop or something like that.

NissanGQ4.2

7th February 2012, 09:14 PM

Nice rig mate, sorta looks like mine just better.

So back to the temp sender, was it second hand one the one supplied from wholesale???

taslucas

7th February 2012, 09:22 PM

Nice rig mate, sorta looks like mine just better.

So back to the temp sender, was it second hand one the one supplied from wholesale???

yeah it was. the little plastic clips were broken, i could see wear marks where it had been attached and when the mechanic ran the ohm meter over it, it showed "open circuit". and when he replaced it, the problem went and car was fine. I have spoken to Wholesale and they are happy to refund if i post it back.

taslucas

7th February 2012, 09:29 PM

taslucas

9th February 2012, 10:11 PM

Thanks for that Andy, i will check out pirtek or the local truck place tomorrow (got the rubber elbows from the truck place)

I did some checking around today, not much luck. I will use your method AB and make it up out of bits i can get lol. will get some pics as i put it together. The main problem is how to deal with the massive bolts thru the pillar! id like to get some brackets that can utilise the the same holes at the least. Will keep you posted...

taslucas

9th February 2012, 10:34 PM

As i said above, i have just fitted a nomad aftermarket recalibrated valve body to my auto.
As ive said, in the proccess of finding an auto fault i had the gear box pulled down and thouroughly inspected by Steve Watkins Automotive- Automatic transmission Specialist(i am very satisfied with the service). Upon inspecting it he found that it was in VERY good condition and recomended getting one of these valve bodies.
Well, i have been driving it for 3 days and i highly recomend it!. It shifts so good! So lively!
I just took the trol home the "long way" tonight (a very windy gravel track called "the Zig Zag") and the auto was amazing.
I have attached the invoice if anyone is interested. (notice that a temp sender is included in the price, it isnt normally needed)

Bigrig

9th February 2012, 10:44 PM

taslucas

9th February 2012, 10:50 PM

yeah for sure! i am totally stoked! :animierte-smilies-t

Bigrig

9th February 2012, 11:22 PM

Soooo ... you gunna drive it,up from Tassie for the October meet up or what??? lol

No, no .... seriously??

taslucas

9th February 2012, 11:30 PM

would be sweet. I want to do lots of bits and pieces to it in the next few months. Who knows, i might be ready by then, but yeah it would be sweet.......

Bigrig

10th February 2012, 12:05 AM

would be sweet. I want to do lots of bits and pieces to it in the next few months. Who knows, i might be ready by then, but yeah it would be sweet.......

Fingers crossed for you old mate!!! It would be sweet indeed!!!

rusty_nail

10th February 2012, 12:51 AM

Love the troll and love any story with a hapPy ending... Specially when it in loves overcoming some stupid hard to find fault. Top stuff pal!

Timbo

10th February 2012, 05:18 PM

Nice clean looking rig mate! Love the colours.. 2 tone is awesome.

taslucas

10th February 2012, 07:23 PM

Nice clean looking rig mate! Love the colours.. 2 tone is awesome.

yeah ive always had a soft spot for two tone. Last car was a VS Calais in two tone (dark blue/green over silver). But having said that, i wasnt even caring about colour when i got the trol.

taslucas

13th February 2012, 08:04 PM

Bloody nice lookin troll mate cant wait to see it covered in mud ;-)

Well, not exactly covered, but a bit dirtier lol

Trolatron

13th February 2012, 09:15 PM

If that was you driving threw upper burnie today mud is a good colour on it :)

taslucas

14th February 2012, 07:44 AM

If that was you driving threw upper burnie today mud is a good colour on it :)

haha yeah it was. Ill be doing it again today, and the next, and the next......till i get around to washing it!

wildgu6

14th February 2012, 10:17 PM

Nice lookin ride there Lucas, certainly a funky snork set up but I LIKE it, very cooool

taslucas

16th February 2012, 07:50 AM

Nice lookin ride there Lucas, certainly a funky snork set up but I LIKE it, very cooool

i will be modifiying that this weekend hopefully!

Bigrig

16th February 2012, 08:02 AM

i will be modifiying that this weekend hopefully!

To a stainless setup? They look a treat!!

taslucas

16th February 2012, 08:58 AM

To a stainless setup? They look a treat!!

Yep that's what I'm aiming for. Got 3 inch stainless pipe and black rubber bends. Biggest problem is trying to utilise the existing brackets. They will only fit 2 inch, but I don't want to remove them as they would leave massive holes!(check the photos at the start)
Any ideas would be helpful :-)

Bigrig

16th February 2012, 09:03 AM

Yep that's what I'm aiming for. Got 3 inch stainless pipe and black rubber bends. Biggest problem is trying to utilise the existing brackets. They will only fit 2 inch, but I don't want to remove them as they would leave massive holes!(check the photos at the start)
Any ideas would be helpful :-)

Hmmmm ... Like AB said mate, there is joiners out there, but 2" is pretty small for air intake??

Hmmmm indeed ...

mudduck

16th February 2012, 09:37 AM

Nice looking truck mate, look forward to seeing it with the stainless snorkel.

taslucas

16th February 2012, 10:41 AM

Hmmmm ... Like AB said mate, there is joiners out there, but 2" is pretty small for air intake??

Hmmmm indeed ...

Yeah definitely going the 3inch, already got the bits.
Just trying to figure out the brackets.
Hmmmm..... Lol

growler2058

16th February 2012, 10:49 AM

Hmmmmmmm will look how do i put this hmmmmmmmmm oh yeah fancy with a stainless snorkel

wildgu6

16th February 2012, 10:52 AM

Maybe give an exhaust joint a call and see what they have in the way of 3" brackets, maybe you can convert one to suit your needs ??? Just a thought, not sure what your after

wildgu6

16th February 2012, 11:09 AM

Another thought mate, looking at one now, stainless downpipe brackets, get from bunnings or plumbing supply's

Oops sorry, misread, your after joiners. My bad

taslucas

16th February 2012, 12:17 PM

Another thought mate, looking at one now, stainless downpipe brackets, get from bunnings or plumbing supply's

Oops sorry, misread, your after joiners. My bad

Nah, definitely looking for brackets, got the joiner inside the engine bay all sorted.

wildgu6

16th February 2012, 12:29 PM

Nah, definitely looking for brackets, got the joiner inside the engine bay all sorted.

Good stuff mate, hope your takin pics as ya go.

Trolatron

16th February 2012, 02:30 PM

I can make you up some brackets similar to what you have now in a 3"
I have a tig wilder at home and can roll the bands up at work.

Trolatron

16th February 2012, 02:31 PM

sorry bubble post...stupid phone:1087:

taslucas

16th February 2012, 03:49 PM

I can make you up some brackets similar to what you have now in a 3"
I have a tig wilder at home and can roll the bands up at work.

Thanks for the offer mate. I think that may be the go. I have a mate that can help me out if I go down that road. Cheers anyway:-)

taslucas

19th February 2012, 11:04 AM

Ive posted the following picture in another thread where i was asking if these breather lines are factory or not. Ill post it again here to keep it in one place. The line on the left comes from the front diff and the one on the right comes from the transmission and transfer case, again, id be interested to see if this is a factory option? Looks like its just a case of extending the cut off rubber a bit more and i'll have some great breather lines.

As for the rear diff, well the breather line goes straight up and is plumbed into the big steel tube/brace that joins the chassis rails (whatever its called? lol). Is this where it normally goes?

growler2058

19th February 2012, 11:12 AM

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As for the rear diff, well the breather line goes straight up and is plumbed into the big steel tube/brace that joins the chassis rails (whatever its called? lol). Is this where it normally goes?

Yup thats where mine used to be, ive extended it up above where the bottle jack lives

taslucas

19th February 2012, 02:45 PM

Cool thanks, I think I will do the same. How about front? Is that factory?

taslucas

28th February 2012, 07:57 PM

OK OK OK...................DAMN IT i didnt want to talk about this again..........
Ok so as you know, i had a lot of trouble with my lock out converter on the auto and then it was finally sorted. WELL it's happening again!!! AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!
heres some more about it: http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?8211-TB42-Auto-box-Electricals
So far i've found that its only once its really warmed up, and as far as i can tell only on slight up hills or downhills. Like when im doing around 90ks and i slightly accelerate or slightly deccelerate due to a slight long hill.
The problem last time was the temp sensor for the ecu in the auto. It was replaced but only with a second hand one..........So is it a coincidence that the temp sensor may have failed again?? Or could it be something that is causing the temp sensor to fail (i cant think how that could happen)?
I pretty much ran out of things to check the first time round. So im thinking it is the temp switch again. It is the exact same symptoms......
ANY thoughts would be very much appreciated:)
Thanks

NissanGQ4.2

28th February 2012, 08:28 PM

NissanGQ4.2

28th February 2012, 09:32 PM

Have you tried the Self Diagnostics Procedure to see if it brings up an error code???

taslucas

29th February 2012, 07:54 AM

What a bummer mate, sorry 2 hear of having drama's with the box again

I do believe there is 2 maybe 3 temp senors, so one of the other ones may have failed

And yes been a 2nd hand sensor it it cold of easily of failed again.

If I remember correctly you never put in a new Torque converter, am I remembering correctly?

Not sure of anything that contributes to the temp sensor failing, will try and look into it some more for you when I have the time.

thanks for the reply...
Yeah they have 2 temp sensors, 1 is just for the warning light in the dash, the other is to send info to the ecu (this is the one that had to be replaced).
It has a new torque converter. The rest of the gearbox is in perfect condition inside (been reconditioned). Has the Nomad heavy duty valvebody fitted.
Seems to only have the problem when it warms up, the same as last time.
Havent tried the self diagnosis yet i'll do that this morning.

taslucas

29th February 2012, 12:52 PM

Ok I did the self diagnosis this morning (5 times and once just then at lunch) it says the problem is: inhibitor switch, power shift switch, kickdown switch or idle switch circuit is disconnected or the control unit is damaged.
Anyone got any clues as to which it might be? Or which is the easiest to check? Haynes Book has info about inhibitor switch and power switch only.

Lucas

Bigrig

29th February 2012, 01:24 PM

Try disconnecting the battery for a few hours and let the ECU reset itself. Then see if you get the errors again as sometimes the fault happens but the ECU doesn't clear itself ...

At least try that first before hunting for something that may not be an ongoing problem ...

taslucas

29th February 2012, 01:37 PM

Bigrig

29th February 2012, 03:02 PM

Cheers, will do that overnight:)

Lucas

Give it a go mate - mine did the same thing a while back (on another thread in here) and resetting the ECU resolved it - some error codes need to have the ECU reset via the consult unit, but most will clear after a couple of hours disconnected (I left mine overnight just to be sure also as no one could put a finger on just how many hours was needed).

taslucas

29th February 2012, 03:57 PM

Give it a go mate - mine did the same thing a while back (on another thread in here) and resetting the ECU resolved it - some error codes need to have the ECU reset via the consult unit, but most will clear after a couple of hours disconnected (I left mine overnight just to be sure also as no one could put a finger on just how many hours was needed).

Awesome, I will give it a try....so is it just to clear the code or would it fix a malfunction in the ecu (or whatever is causing the lockup converter to play up again?)

Lucas

NissanGQ4.2

29th February 2012, 04:56 PM

Awesome, I will give it a try....so is it just to clear the code or would it fix a malfunction in the ecu (or whatever is causing the lockup converter to play up again?)

Lucas

Lucas

From my understanding it will clear the error code, but won't fix a malfunction in the ECU or whatever the problem is, and from what I have been told even if there is an error code still in the system form a previous problem that has since been fixed it will not cause any problems.

But I hope you can prove me wrong and clearing the error code solves your problem.

Cheers

Todd

Bigrig

29th February 2012, 05:04 PM

Lucas

From my understanding it will clear the error code, but won't fix a malfunction in the ECU or whatever the problem is, and from what I have been told even if there is an error code still in the system form a previous problem that has since been fixed it will not cause any problems.

But I hope you can prove me wrong and clearing the error code solves your problem.

Cheers

Todd

Correct, but if a malfunction it'll error out again and isolate it hopefully. I had three error codes that all cleared and never reappeared for some reason.

If they reappear, hopefully it's not all of them, and so begins the hunt for the 'real' problem.

taslucas

29th February 2012, 05:26 PM

Ahhh well I think it's just doing what it's ment to then and picking up the fault that I can feel when im driving!
But I'll disconnect the battery tonight and see what happens
Thanks,
Lucas

NissanGQ4.2

29th February 2012, 07:46 PM

Ahhh well I think it's just doing what it's ment to then and picking up the fault that I can feel when im driving!
But I'll disconnect the battery tonight and see what happens
Thanks,
Lucas

Let us know what happens, If it doesn't clear, gives us a starting point, unfortunately error codes only narrow the problem down, say for example your error read: inhibitor switch, power shift switch, kickdown switch or idle switch circuit is disconnected or the control unit is damaged.

It could be none of those that at fault, but the problem you have is caused by another problem that is causing a problem with one of those....

.............hope that made sense Lucas............had a few beers :):):):)

taslucas

29th February 2012, 07:54 PM

Let us know what happens, If it doesn't clear, gives us a starting point, unfortunately error codes only narrow the problem down, say for example your error read: inhibitor switch, power shift switch, kickdown switch or idle switch circuit is disconnected or the control unit is damaged.

It could be none of those that at fault, but the problem you have is caused by another problem that is causing a problem with one of those....

.............hope that made sense Lucas............had a few beers :):):):)

yep, made perfect sense mate:) but ive had a few turkeys too.....think im speaking your language lol.

i reckon the problem is the temp sensor. Its doing the same thing as last time and was only replaced by a second hand one. Although its just a bit too much of a coincidence to have failed again.
back to the drawing board
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...........! :mad::mad::mad:

NissanGQ4.2

29th February 2012, 08:44 PM

Don't think I have said it yet, so if I haven't........big congrats on reaching the 1000 posts mark....... ( 99 posts ago ) *L*

Well done mate, keep em coming, just not with posts of probs with the auto!!!!!!!!

taslucas

29th February 2012, 09:24 PM

taslucas

1st March 2012, 08:42 PM

Today I got instructions how to use a test light to check the ecu signal for the lockup converter. Only problem is I don't know where the ecu is! Lol. Its on the passenger kick panel somewhere right? Is it inside the cab or in the engine bay?

Lucas

Clunk

1st March 2012, 08:48 PM

Mine's in the passenger side kick panel........ I think lol

taslucas

1st March 2012, 08:58 PM

Mine's in the passenger side kick panel........ I think lol

Cheers, so it's inside the car?

Lucas

Bigrig

1st March 2012, 09:23 PM

Cheers, so it's inside the car?

Lucas

Under the carpet at your feet in the passenger well mine was - lift the carpet up underneath the glovebox and shazam ... There it is.

Clunk

1st March 2012, 09:24 PM

Cheers, so it's inside the car?

Lucas

That it is mate and when I become clever enough I'm going to move it to higher ground coz the buggah doesn't like getting wet......... Daft place to put it if you ask me lol

Bigrig

1st March 2012, 09:26 PM

Mine's in the passenger side kick panel........ I think lol

I think the one in the kick panel in Lucas' will be the TCU for the automatic transmission

Clunk

1st March 2012, 09:31 PM

I think the one in the kick panel in Lucas' will be the TCU for the automatic transmission

Ahhhh sorry guys, thought that's what Lucas was after. Like my title says "I know muffin" lmao...... Apologies once again, now where's teddy

Bigrig

1st March 2012, 09:32 PM

Ahhhh sorry guys, thought that's what Lucas was after. Like my title says "I know muffin" lmao...... Apologies once again, now where's teddy

Hahaha - all good mate ... I'm second guessing myself now!!! lmao

NissanGQ4.2

1st March 2012, 09:32 PM

Lucas, Scottie is correct, in the below threads are some pics of the location for ya

TCU Locaion ( Transmission Control Unit ): http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?2705-GQ-4.2-EFI-TCU-(-Transmission-Control-Unit-)

ECU Location ( Engine Control Unit ): http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?2706-GQ-4.2-EFI-ECU-(-Engine-Control-Unit-)

Cheers

Todd

Clunk

1st March 2012, 10:46 PM

Well I was kind of almost sort in the area...... I got the passenger side bit right. Lol

NissanGQ4.2

1st March 2012, 10:49 PM

Well I was kind of almost sort in the area...... I got the passenger side bit right. Lol

Don't worry I got them wrong first time around, i was 100 certain they were around the other way but was soon told by all the friendly members here that I was incorrect in my original postings:)

taslucas

2nd March 2012, 11:07 AM

Thanks heaps guys, and thanks for the links Todd. I did a search but.....in the wise words of clunk, "I know nothing" lol
Will have a look tomorrow. Wishme luck!

Lucas

taslucas

2nd March 2012, 04:37 PM

I think the one in the kick panel in Lucas' will be the TCU for the automatic transmission

Ahhh I think I might have confused you guys, I said I was after the ecu but I reckon I'm after the tcu. I didn't know they were two different things. I got instructions to use a test light to see if the signal that tells the lockup converter to lock pulses on and off thus causing the converter to lock/unlock and therefore pi55 me off! Lol

Lucas

growler2058

2nd March 2012, 07:12 PM

I know how to fix this mate! What you do is put in a td42 and 5spd manual cog swapper ;-) works every time

Clunk

2nd March 2012, 08:50 PM

Ahhh I think I might have confused you guys, I said I was after the ecu but I reckon I'm after the tcu. I didn't know they were two different things. I got instructions to use a test light to see if the signal that tells the lockup converter to lock pulses on and off thus causing the converter to lock/unlock and therefore pi55 me off! Lol

Lucas

Ah see old clunky boy was right...... That'll be a first !!!!!!! Hahaha

taslucas

3rd March 2012, 10:20 AM

I know how to fix this mate! What you do is put in a td42 and 5spd manual cog swapper ;-) works every time

Yeah i reckon that would work. The TD42 (with a nice fresh turbo and intercooler) would be great! But I love the Auto for hills and mud and sand (not that ive done any sand in my own). Its good not having to swap cogs half way up a steep muddy hill. But at the moment it sucks just cruising along the highway lol.....
I priced up another temp sensor $114, which isnt bad if its a fix but its a 2 week trip from Japan home of the Patrol.

growler2058

3rd March 2012, 12:25 PM

Furry nuff!!

taslucas

8th March 2012, 04:46 PM

Paid for the temp sensor today, now the wait till it gets here.....
Then the wait till it's fitted......
Then the wait to see if it has fixed the problem....thats the worst wait of all!!

Lucas

Bigrig

8th March 2012, 05:19 PM

Paid for the temp sensor today, now the wait till it gets here.....
Then the wait till it's fitted......
Then the wait to see if it has fixed the problem....thats the worst wait of all!!

Lucas

Hey mate

You talking the thermostat temperature sensor? I hope not, coz they're about $42 from Repco ...

taslucas

8th March 2012, 05:31 PM

Hey mate

You talking the thermostat temperature sensor? I hope not, coz they're about $42 from Repco ...

Nah, the temp sender in the auto. Don't think anyone does an aftermarket one so had to go genuine.

Lucas

Bigrig

8th March 2012, 05:41 PM

Nah, the temp sender in the auto. Don't think anyone does an aftermarket one so had to go genuine.

Lucas

Ahhh ... there's two temp senders in the auto gearbox - is it the one inside the pan?? Pain in the anus to replace ...

If its the one for the converter, it's inside ...

taslucas

8th March 2012, 06:43 PM

They're both in the pan, screwed to the valvebody. One sends info to the tcu and the other is just for the trans temp warning light on the dash board. Replaced the one for the tcu 6 weeks ago and the problem went away for a month.... Then came back! We only replaced with a secondhand one and even tho it's a long shot that it failed so quickly, I hope that is the case. Fingers crossed that a brand new one will fix it for good

Lucas

taslucas

26th March 2012, 01:44 PM

Ok so I ordered the temp sensor, they had to get it from Japan, so I waited patiently for 2 weeks. Got it last week, booked in at the shop for this morning, got there and he tells me it'd the wrong sensor!!!! WTF!!! Ok so it must be the other one.....went in to Nissan at lunch to order the other one and it doesn't come up on their system!! Theres one there in the diagram on the screen but computer says NO it's not for a GQ, and there isn't any listings for GQ!!!!!! I've had the damn thing in my hand I know it exists!!!!! AAAAARRRRRRRR!!!

tappn it

97_gq_lwb

26th March 2012, 04:15 PM

Do you have a transmission specialist locally sometimes they get common replacement parts at great prices.
Or try
http://www.drivelineap.com.au/
http://www.eurowa.com/parts.html

taslucas

26th March 2012, 05:10 PM

I'm dealing with the only transmission specialist in the area. Trol has been in and out of there for the last 4 or 5 months.
Nothing comes up for an aftermarket sensor. Just found out its gonna be another 2 week's wait for the other temp sensor!

tappn it

NissanGQ4.2

26th March 2012, 08:13 PM

Did you ring Wholesale and Nizzbits?

NissanGQ4.2

26th March 2012, 08:22 PM

There are 2 sensors in the valve Control Valve Assembly

1. A/T Oil Temperature Switch (For "AT OIL TEMP" warning lamp)
2. Fluid Temperature Sensor - Nissan Part Number 31937M ( Sensor Assy-Temperature )

NOT Finished and don't quote me on part numbers just yet.............puter playing up and need to save before it locks up....crashes and I have to re write it again!!!!

taslucas

26th March 2012, 08:30 PM

Did you ring Wholesale and Nizzbits?

Wholesale were ment to include a new sensor when I got the nomad valvebody but it was over looked, I got the impression that they didn't have one.
I've already payed for the other sensor at the Nissan dealership and they won't refund me only swap for the other one.
As I've said above(too many times) -if it fixes the problem I don't mind waiting a bit......

tappn it

NissanGQ4.2

26th March 2012, 09:07 PM

Wholesale were ment to include a new sensor when I got the nomad valvebody but it was over looked, I got the impression that they didn't have one.
tappn it

Mate if you have paid for a new one from Wholesale, ring Rodney up and get him to send you one out, at least you will have a spare.

taslucas

26th March 2012, 09:47 PM

All cool, they just refunded the $. And my mechanic had a second hand one so we chucked that in and the problem was fixed......for a month or so then came back!?

tappn it

ripper

5th April 2012, 10:22 AM

I haven't been onsite for a while, was browsing last night and came across your other thread about this, then Todd redirected me here.

Our Trol was off the road for months with a mystery electrical problem in the auto. It's been great for two weeks now, it better not go bad again :mad:

Today is a rather busy one for me, but I learnt a fair bit with our trans, and may be able to help with yours. If you don't hear from me within the next few days, reply here to remind me that I meant to read this whole thread, and see if I can come up with anything new.

taslucas

5th April 2012, 10:52 AM

Cheers mate, will do.

tappn it

ripper

6th April 2012, 03:27 AM

Okay, well I got a lot more net time than I expected today, so I've written my auto story and read yours.

Ok I did the self diagnosis this morning (5 times and once just then at lunch) it says the problem is: inhibitor switch, power shift switch, kickdown switch or idle switch circuit is disconnected or the control unit is damaged.
Anyone got any clues as to which it might be? Or which is the easiest to check? Haynes Book has info about inhibitor switch and power switch only.

Lucas

So your power light stays on after you change gears and press the power button on and off in the right sequence?

If so, you need to get a copy of page 41 and 42 of the AT section of Nissan's GQ workshop manual, it clearly explains how to test each of these components. No guesswork, just checking voltages at the TCU with a multimeter. It's a process of elimination.

I found this very tedious with our auto, but it was what led to fixing it.

on 26th March 2012 04:40 PM - Nothing comes up for an aftermarket sensor. Just found out its gonna be another 2 week's wait for the other temp sensor!
So in less than a week this should arrive?

taslucas

6th April 2012, 08:08 AM

Yep, the new sensor should be here any day. I'll get that fitted and go from there.

I've had all the work done by an auto specialist.
First we fitted a reco TC.
No fix.
Then pulled the box completely apart to find it in really good condition. The guy said it looked like it had done less than 5000ks after a reco. He thoroughly checked every little part/wire/oil gallery.
While it was apart we fitted an aftermarket heavy duty valvebody.
(it was ment to come with a new temp sensor)
Fitted all back together.
Still no fix!
Found that the temp sensor hadn't been replaced. Replaced temp sensor with a second hand one.
Problem fixed!!!!...........for 6 weeks then came back.
I'm hoping that the second hand temp sensor failed (even tho it would be a coincidence) and that the new one (arriving soon) will fix the problem.
If not, then I'll check the TCU resistance.

tappn it

ripper

6th April 2012, 10:43 AM

I'm hoping that the second hand temp sensor failed (even tho it would be a coincidence) and that the new one (arriving soon) will fix the problem.
That does sound like the most likely suspect, except that the error code doesn't match :mad:

If not, then I'll check the TCU resistance.

If it gets to this stage, I can probably help with explaining it more if necessary. For your code the tests start at the TCU with it still connected, for mine they started in the engine bay.

taslucas

6th April 2012, 01:25 PM

Cheers mate, I'll see how I go when this new sensor arrives. Fingers crossed

tappn it

NissanGQ4.2

16th April 2012, 10:16 PM

bump, you got it yet or what?

taslucas

16th April 2012, 10:30 PM

Nah still waiting.......I'll call in tomorrow and see what the go is.

tappin it

NissanGQ4.2

16th April 2012, 10:36 PM

Nah still waiting.......I'll call in tomorrow and see what the go is.

tappin it

Are they just sending it from Japan or making it as well *L*

taslucas

17th April 2012, 08:43 AM

I think they must have had to make a new mine to get the raw metals for it then build a plastics factory and raise some workers from children to put it all together!!

tappin it

taslucas

17th April 2012, 04:49 PM

Aha! It arrived "yesterday".......

tappin it

NissanGQ4.2

17th April 2012, 08:12 PM

Aha! It arrived "yesterday".......

So that mean its in and working now???

taslucas

27th April 2012, 07:43 PM

Ok so I picked up the sensor....it was the wrong one:(.

Got them to get the right one...

Two more weeks go by.....

Picked up the correct sensor last week. Booked in to get it fitted (yes I'm lazy Todd! Lol).

Picked trol up this arvo.....

Yep......the new sensor hasn't changed a damn thing.....:(:mad::(:mad::(:(:(

Hmmmm what next?

Going to borrow a Mates TCU this weekend and try that. It's from a mav with a series 2 box? (has O.D button and HOLD button?) so would that be ok?

Wish me luck!

tappin it

NissanGQ4.2

27th April 2012, 07:54 PM

Not sure if the TCU will work or not, I don't know if I personally would risk plugging in someone else's TCU unless it had the same part number on it.

I better go back to the start of this thread and have a long re-read

ripper

27th April 2012, 10:28 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't be keen to put another TCU in unless it was an exact match.

If you have any thoughts of adding a manual toque converter set up, now may be the best time to do that. It'll let you isolate whether the problem is in the torque converter, or in the sensors.

I'm almost ready to post a thread with the whole story of my manual torque converter project, should be done very soon.

NissanGQ4.2

27th April 2012, 10:41 PM

Should not be the TC as you have fitted a reconditioned one.

When you got the new valve body, did you also get new solenoids or did you use your old ones?

ripper

28th April 2012, 12:50 AM

Should not be the TC as you have fitted a reconditioned one.

You're right, my bad.

When you got the new valve body, did you also get new solenoids or did you use your old ones?

It's not hard to test the circuit. Just undo the connector near the battery and measure the resistance between the correct terminal and earth.

I'm almost ready to post a thread with the whole story of my manual torque converter project, should be done very soon.

Done now My GQ manual torque converter lock up system (lotts-of-photos) (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?11037-My-GQ-manual-torque-converter-lock-up-system-(lotts-of-photos))

rusty_nail

28th April 2012, 08:50 AM

mate, i feel for ya! i cant offer any advice but i can offer my condolences. this thing has been going on for you ages hey! i hope you get it fixed soon bud.

taslucas

28th April 2012, 11:56 AM

Should not be the TC as you have fitted a reconditioned one.

When you got the new valve body, did you also get new solenoids or did you use your old ones?

I was told by wholesale autos that a failing lockup solenoid was super rare and that it would be all good, so I assume they didn't change it.

Everything is brand new except for the solenoid for the lockup TC. So I'm thinking it must be that.

It can only be the lockup solenoid, speed sensor, some damaged wiring, or a faulty tcu.
The vehicle behaves as it should for the first half hour or so if driving.
If I go straight onto a highway I can drive for more than an hour without the problem happening. Then if I stop for 10 mins or so, when I get back on the highway, as soon as I get to 90k/h it starts playing up! So what ever is broken will work for a while then start failing. I thought it would have to be temperature related as nothing else changes while driving.

tappin it

taslucas

28th April 2012, 11:57 AM

mate, i feel for ya! i cant offer any advice but i can offer my condolences. this thing has been going on for you ages hey! i hope you get it fixed soon bud.

Thanks mate, I hope your out the back doing a voodoo dance or something for me lol!

tappin it

ripper

28th April 2012, 11:53 PM

I thought it would have to be temperature related as nothing else changes while driving.

I'm not so sure. Getting up to operating temp only takes about 10 min. These electronic boxes really can be temperamental.
Have you got a new error code since the temp sensor went in, to narrow down which circuit is the problem?

taslucas

29th April 2012, 02:49 PM

I'm not so sure. Getting up to operating temp only takes about 10 min. These electronic boxes really can be temperamental.
Have you got a new error code since the temp sensor went in, to narrow down which circuit is the problem?

Yeah that's the thing though, I drive for about 15-20 minutes before I yet to the first 100 km/h straight. So the box should be up to operating temp. Get onto the straight, TC locks up, revs drop to around 1800rpm and all works like it should. Then after a bit more windy roads I get onto the highway, get up to 90 and the damn TC locks and unlocks rapidly......

As I've said, the most puzzling thing is if I'm parked near the hwy and start up and get straight onto the hwy I can sit on 90/100/110 for over an hour with all working fine but as soon as I stop for 5 minutes and go again, the problem appears ad soon as I get to 90.......

tappin it

taslucas

30th April 2012, 08:42 AM

I'm not so sure. Getting up to operating temp only takes about 10 min. These electronic boxes really can be temperamental.
Have you got a new error code since the temp sensor went in, to narrow down which circuit is the problem?

Just checked the fault codes again, it's the same code, which is : "inhibitor switch, power shift switch, kickdown switch or idle switch circuit is disconnected or the control unit is damaged"

But I've got no idea how to check/fix any of these!

tappin it

ripper

30th April 2012, 09:55 AM

taslucas

30th April 2012, 11:04 AM

Lucas, fixing this is going to be a real pain.

Do you have a copy of Nissan's workshop manual?

Do you have good skills with a multi meter, or a helpful auto electrician?

I've just been looking at which pages of the manual you're going to need, and it looks ugly already.

Lol, yeah it's been a pain already!

I got some instructions from wholesale autos on how to test the tcu with a multimeter but I'm not very confident at all in doing it. I also don't have much confidence in the auto electricians around here.

tappin it

taslucas

30th April 2012, 11:34 AM

Are you talking about the manual that can be downloaded from this site?

tappin it

ripper

30th April 2012, 12:20 PM

Lol, yeah it's been a pain already!

I was thinking that as I wrote it, but now it's going to take lots of testing, where as the shop's approach seems to have been 'throw money at it and hope for the best'.

I got some instructions from wholesale autos on how to test the tcu with a multimeter but I'm not very confident at all in doing it. I also don't have much confidence in the auto electricians around here.

tappin it

I ended up working out what was wrong with mine myself, when the automatic shop hadn't been able to, and the auto elect. said he couldn't do any more than what the auto shop could.

To sort this out you're going to need someone with multimeter skills. Is there and electrician (a domestic or industrial one I mean) in your area who can think outside the box? Some just shut down as soon as you mention anything to do with DC wiring.

Are you talking about the manual that can be downloaded from this site?

tappin it

Yes, that one, or a paper copy of it.

taslucas

30th April 2012, 12:52 PM

I was thinking that as I wrote it, but now it's going to take lots of testing, where as the shop's approach seems to have been 'throw money at it and hope for the best'.

Not really. Everyone I have asked (including wholesale autos) has said
that it must be the TC, the tps or the temp sensor. So I have methodically changed those things one at a time. Another thing is that when the secondhand temp sensor was fitted, the problem went away instantly and completely for 6 weeks.....

I will go to all the auto electricians around here and have a good chat to see if any of them are willing to have a go....

tappin it

ripper

30th April 2012, 01:25 PM

Not really. Everyone I have asked (including wholesale autos) has said
that it must be the TC, the tps or the temp sensor.

But your error code is saying
"inhibitor switch, power shift switch, kickdown switch or idle switch circuit is disconnected or the control unit is damaged"

Why weren't those eliminated first?

taslucas

30th April 2012, 02:40 PM

First off the auto specialist test drove it and said the TC is stuffed, and it was so we replaced that, then he test drove again and thought it didn't feel right so had a closer look and found the tps was missing, then found it was missing because it had a carby off a manual in it so no place fir the tps. At that stage the error code was showing "problem with the tps circuit". Got another carby, fitted it with a new tps and the code went away but problem still there. Pulled box out to thoroughly check the internals, box was in awesome condition, auto specialist said it looked like it had dine less than 5000ks since a reco. Decided to fit a nomad valvebody while it was out. Put all back together, still had the problem but showing no error code. Tested temp sensor and found it was faulty. Put a second hand one in and the problem was gone completely (also no codes showing). 6 weeks later the problem came back and now showing that error code........ So I thought well maybe the second hand temp sensor had failed so I got a brand new Nissan genuine one fitted and still got problem.......

tappin it

ripper

30th April 2012, 03:05 PM

Okay, makes more sense now. I didn't realise there was no error code earlier on.

Your box sounds as frustrating, or maybe even more frustrating, than what ours was. From the first time I pulled our box out (I did it twice, and the shop did it once as well), till it was finally fixed took more than 10 months.

I still think you need to get someone who's handy with a multimeter, and get them to trouble shoot the error code with the instructions in Nissan's workshop manual.

I will go to all the auto electricians around here and have a good chat to see if any of them are willing to have a go....

If that doesn't work, electricians, or electronics repairers, or maybe even someone who builds PCs, could do the job too.

NissanGQ4.2

30th April 2012, 04:46 PM

I've just been looking at which pages of the manual you're going to need, and it looks ugly already.

I rebuilt my whole gearbox using that manual, you will be right Lucas easy as mate *LMAO*

taslucas

30th April 2012, 04:54 PM

I rebuilt my whole gearbox using that manual, you will be right Lucas easy as mate *LMAO*

Lol thanks mate!

And thanks for the support Ripper, it's appreciated. I'll get to the bottom of it one day!

tappin it

nissannewby

30th April 2012, 05:01 PM

Can you bypass the factory switch and put your own in for the tc lockup and see if this eliminates your gremlin?

NissanGQ4.2

30th April 2012, 05:05 PM

rusty_nail

30th April 2012, 05:21 PM

haha throw ya weight around mate! thats the way!!!

ripper

30th April 2012, 05:33 PM

And thanks for the support Ripper, it's appreciated. I'll get to the bottom of it one day!

No worries. I just know how frustrating they can be.

Can you bypass the factory switch and put your own in for the tc lockup and see if this eliminates your gremlin?

This is what I've been doing since I wrecked the TC part of our TCU.
I'll get another TCU one day, but it's not so urgent now that I can manually lock the TC.

I was looking at this members ride thread saying to myself.... I really should copy this all over to your other thread that you started for your gearbox troubles, and try and keep it in one place. But after stuffin Ripper's threads up, I'm not touchin it

Sounds like you've developed a complex Todd.
Will you ever be game to enter the control panel again :blowup:

Just kidding :biggrin:

taslucas

30th April 2012, 05:38 PM

I was looking at this members ride thread saying to myself.... I really should copy this all over to your other thread that you started for your gearbox troubles, and try and keep it in one place. But after stuffin Ripper's threads up, I'm not touchin it

Have a go if you want. But I can always retype the basics in another thread. I've typed it that many times that it just comes out in one big speel!

tappin it

ripper

30th April 2012, 05:39 PM

Hey Rusty, not sure if you saw it, but I did eventually reply to the message you left me.
It'd been there a long time by the time I saw it. If it doesn't send something to my email address, there's a good chance I'll miss it.

Have a go if you want.

Can you make a copy before you try editing it Todd?

taslucas

30th April 2012, 06:04 PM

Can you bypass the factory switch and put your own in for the tc lockup and see if this eliminates your gremlin?

I reckon that could work if its not the lock up solinoid. But i really just want it to work properly, i hate patching things up. Its gotta be a fixable thing albeit ellusive at the moment!! Some things are just sent to test us!

growler2058

30th April 2012, 06:08 PM

I got an idea thatll fix ya trans problems forever........................................... ......convert it to a manual hahahahahhahahahahahahaha easy problem solver ;-)

taslucas

30th April 2012, 07:45 PM

I got an idea thatll fix ya trans problems forever........................................... ......convert it to a manual hahahahahhahahahahahahaha easy problem solver ;-)

but then id have no traction.........................

NissanGQ4.2

30th April 2012, 07:55 PM

Can you make a copy before you try editing it Todd?

Where is the fun in that mate?, I've only just finished copying your thread over into the gearbox section, ( thanks 2 Nic for his help, even though I did do it differently to you ).

I might copy some of the posts over later Lucas, and yes ripper I will copy it first before I destroy it

growler2058

30th April 2012, 07:56 PM

but then id have no traction.........................

Pffft only coz you auto boys lack hand foot eye coordination hahahahahahahahhahaha

Bigrig

30th April 2012, 08:03 PM

Pffft only coz you auto boys lack hand foot eye coordination hahahahahahahahhahaha

No, no ... quite incorrect ...

We're just lazy!! lmao

growler2058

30th April 2012, 08:04 PM

HAHHAHAHHAHAHaHHA love the new Avatar Largerus moderarterus

Bigrig

30th April 2012, 08:08 PM

HAHHAHAHHAHAHaHHA love the new Avatar Largerus moderarterus

Being the religious type I am, I thought it appropriate ... lol

Sorry for the 'mini' hijack

taslucas

30th April 2012, 08:23 PM

Pffft only coz you auto boys lack hand foot eye coordination hahahahahahahahhahaha

Believe it or not, theres some hills out there that a manual can't get up without a gear change.......... That's where I drive:)

Clutch's are for grandmas to ride!! Lmao hahaha

tappin it

growler2058

30th April 2012, 08:27 PM

Believe it or not, theres some hills out there that a manual can't get up without a gear change.......... That's where I drive:)

Clutch's are for grandmas to ride!! Lmao hahaha

tappin it

MMm gear selection is something i wouldnt expect an auto wuss to know anything about hahahhahahaha

Bigrig

30th April 2012, 08:37 PM

MMm gear selection is something i wouldnt expect an auto wuss to know anything about hahahhahahaha

How do you expect me to smoke, eat my burger, AND talk on the phone all the while trying to change gears??!!! No sir, auto all the way for me!!! lmao

growler2058

30th April 2012, 08:41 PM

HAHAHAhhahaHHHAHa give up the smokes or the burger, ok not the burger then ahhahahahahaha:sterb003::hijacked:

ripper

30th April 2012, 08:44 PM

Where is the fun in that mate?

I'll remember that next time you lose a heap of my photos :1087: :tease:

taslucas

30th April 2012, 08:55 PM

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MMm gear selection is something i wouldnt expect an auto wuss to know anything about hahahhahahaha[/QUOTE]

If your driving hills that don't require a gear change halfway, then they are either too small or too grippy. Step it up!!!

tappin it

NissanGQ4.2

30th April 2012, 08:59 PM

Bigrig

30th April 2012, 09:07 PM

NissanGQ4.2

30th April 2012, 09:10 PM

who what why when, did someone say police........I'm outta here

rusty_nail

30th April 2012, 09:11 PM

He's gotta throw his weight around lol.

Tappin from my coconut with a piece of string not my iPhone. Everyone has one of those

taslucas

30th April 2012, 09:26 PM

Lucas have updated your other thread with some of the comments out of this thread

Can we have all further comments on the gearbox related problems over in the other thread please: http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?8211-TB42-Auto-box-Electricals

No worries Todd, I'll keep posting in that one........
That is if I can post at all.....keep getting logged off literally every minute.

tappin it

growler2058

30th April 2012, 09:28 PM

No worries Todd, I'll keep posting in that one........
That is if I can post at all.....keep getting logged off literally every minute.

tappin it

HAHAAHA Its an AUTOmatic thing hahahhahaha

taslucas

30th April 2012, 09:40 PM

HAHAAHA Its an AUTOmatic thing hahahhahaha

Haha now that's automation that I don't like!!

Tap, crackle, pop

taslucas

11th June 2012, 10:35 AM

Well its been a while but i finally got around to building my snorkel. It was good to finally get rid the flexi pipe embarassment!!

I wanted to use the brutal bolts that the previous owner had put in. So it took a while to sort out some brackets that would work....

Heres the stainless brackets i found. I got a mate to shave a nut (lol) and weld it into the bracket leg.

taslucas

11th June 2012, 10:38 AM

Heres the existing bolt.

Next i made a connector for the flexi pipe....

taslucas

11th June 2012, 10:43 AM

I widened the hole from the 2" to a bit over 3" by slicing with tin snips and folding back.
I scavenged a door seal from an old car to put around the hole. A bit of galv paint on the inside and a big wad of silicone.

taslucas

11th June 2012, 10:50 AM

The finished product. I was really happy with the nice snug fit through the gaurd.
I just have to buy a couple more hose clamps tomorrow.

YAY now i have a snorkel to be proud of!!

Big thanks to AB's DIY thread that got me inspired (albeit nearly a year ago!!!)
:thumbup::thumbup:

NissanGQ4.2

11th June 2012, 10:53 AM

All nice and pretty Lucas, but does your gearbox make the 4b go forward and backward yet like it should??? *LMAO*

taslucas

11th June 2012, 10:56 AM

........you had to bring that up didnt you!!! Just when i was feeling happy!!..............So NO, i havent managed to fix it yet. Will be putting an extra earth strap on it today

taslucas

11th June 2012, 11:08 AM

Just a bit of a rundown on the bits i used:

Stainless brackets............................... $9 each
Stainless nuts .....................................40 cents each.
Welding nuts into brackets....................Free
3" rubber 45 degree elbow...................$27
3" rubber 90 degree elbow...................$14 (why is that cheaper than a 45 degree one?)
Truck style hose clamps.......................$6 (still need 2 more)
3" to 2" rubber step down....................$3
3" stainless pipe 2X 800mm...............One length freeby from a mate, other length $38 per metre (me and a mate bought a 6 metre length and it worked out less than half price per metre)
Rubber strip free from an old wrecked car
white PVC pipe freeby lying around the shed
Feeling of getting rid of the old flexi pipe embarassment and running tuff as stainless pipe.........................PRICELESS!! lol

aussiemale

11th June 2012, 05:22 PM

Bit better than my 1st snorkel, PVC downpipe and elbows LOL

taslucas

11th June 2012, 09:29 PM

Bit better than my 1st snorkel, PVC downpipe and elbows LOL

haha nice. Its also WAY better than the embarassing flexi ag pipe that came with it!

taslucas

11th July 2012, 11:42 AM

A little update......
Been leaking a little oil and the other day it dropped a heap so I had a look and it appeared my rear main seal was to blame. The front crank seal was also weeping a bit. Borrowed another car to get to work, ordered the seals, lined a mate up to fit them tomorrow, all good.... I drove the trol to work today so I could leave it at my mates tonight. On the way, it felt like it wasn't changing gears right..... On the big hill near work it definitely wasn't changing right...... Auto temp warning light came on and I limped the 1 minute to work..... Guess it wasn't the rear main seal leaking..... Last time I had work done to the auto, I got some damn expensive trans fluid. I didn't see it when it went in and assumed it was that red colour so therefore the black stuff dripping out the bottom looked(and smelt) like oil not trans fluid....
As some of you might know I have had an EXTREMELY BAD RUN with this effen transmission.
AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Tap, crackle, pop

ripper

11th July 2012, 12:25 PM

I have had an EXTREMELY BAD RUN

Yeah, when they're good they're awesome, when they give trouble they're a nightmare.
Maybe time to bite the bullet and get it fully reco'd by someone different?

taslucas

11th July 2012, 12:43 PM

Yeah, when they're good they're awesome, when they give trouble they're a nightmare.
Maybe time to bite the bullet and get it fully reco'd by someone different?

Been fully reco'd. Reco'd torque converter. New Nomad valvebody. New temp sensors. New TPS. Bloody expensive trans fluid. No one else around here to go to really....
Taking it there tonight and hoping it's a warranty job, well, gonna tell him it IS a warranty job....

Tap, crackle, pop

Winnie

11th July 2012, 01:02 PM

You must be fuming mate. Try keep your cool though it's not worth stressing over.
Good luck with it all hope it's an easy fix.

ripper

11th July 2012, 01:17 PM

Taking it there tonight and hoping it's a warranty job, well, gonna tell him it IS a warranty job....

It does happen.
We had a crook seal replaced under warranty. It was letting the fluid bypass reverse :mad:

taslucas

11th July 2012, 03:03 PM

It does happen.
We had a crook seal replaced under warranty. It was letting the fluid bypass reverse :mad:

I rang him before and he reckons it's probably the "front seal". Taking it there this arvo.
Just got 30 bucks worth of trans fluid so I can limp it there. Good use of 30 bucks lol.

Tap, crackle, pop

taslucas

11th July 2012, 03:08 PM

You must be fuming mate. Try keep your cool though it's not worth stressing over.
Good luck with it all hope it's an easy fix.

Tried not stressing for the last 6 months or so and it hasn't got me anywhere!! It is worth stressing about now lol. Priced up a brand new gearbox from Nissan: $4850.....I've spent over $4000 on mine so far and at the moment it's sitting at work with a buggered seal, no trans fluid left and possible heat damage.... Oh and I still have the lockout converter issue (the original problem I went in to get fixed).......grrrr

Tap, crackle, pop

Ben-e-boy

11th July 2012, 04:35 PM

thata a bugger with that gearbox mate, maybe put a turbo 400 auto in????

taslucas

27th July 2012, 08:01 AM

Picked her up last night:). The Reco torque converter was to blame. It was out of round and therefore flogged out the front transmission seal. Got another reco torque converter, new seal, new fluid, labour etc all under warranty so i didnt have to pay a cent (apart from the $30 of fluid to limp it to the shop). All seems fine so far so im happy again:)

Man, what a rollercoaster ride!!!

Winnie

27th July 2012, 08:19 AM

Silver

27th July 2012, 08:32 AM

ripper

27th July 2012, 09:18 AM

Sounds good, and hopefully that's what was causing the lock up issues too.

taslucas

27th July 2012, 11:46 AM

Sounds good, and hopefully that's what was causing the lock up issues too.

Nah that's still happening.

Tap, crackle, pop

taslucas

27th July 2012, 11:51 AM

great news Taslucas! Of course, with hindsight it might have been nice if the defect in the torque converter was picked up prior to installation, by either the crowd who re did it, or the auto people. Anyway, they looked after you, so no complaints there I guess!

Not sure where the TC got reco'd but when it got sent back to them they tried it on their test jig and found it wasnt right......but that is the same test jig they use before they send them out?? Anyway like you said, all fixed now at no cost. Just gotta keep looking for the solution to the lockup issues

Tap, crackle, pop

taslucas

27th July 2012, 11:52 AM

That's a good result, what a waste of time though!

Did you ever check the VIN number to see if yours was a TI? Mines got all the same features as yours, like electric mirrors and windows, swaybar disconnect etc... and mine's an ST.

No I haven't been able to get the nisfast software to work. It might be an st. Then I'd have to change the name if this thread....and my signature! Ahhh! Lol

Tap, crackle, pop

Winnie

27th July 2012, 12:44 PM

Yeah, I can't get it to work either. Well, it's possible mine is a TI too, but it was sold to me and have been told it's an ST.

97_gq_lwb

27th July 2012, 01:03 PM

Mines working if ya pm ya vin i can look it up

taslucas

27th July 2012, 01:04 PM

Mines working if ya pm ya vin i can look it up

Cheers mate, I'll do that

NissanGQ4.2

27th July 2012, 05:17 PM

No I haven't been able to get the nisfast software to work. It might be an st. Then I'd have to change the name if this thread....and my signature! Ahhh! Lol

Tap, crackle, pop

Its easy 2 setup Lucas, I also have a working version if you need 2 know anything.

Cheers

Toddie

NissanGQ4.2

27th July 2012, 05:23 PM

Lucas and Kristoffa,

Reply in the Nissan Fast thread (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?2383-Nissan-Fast-E-Fast-Software-Download&highlight=nissan+fast) on what your problems are and I will try and sort it out for you guys.

Cheers

Toddie

taslucas

27th July 2012, 05:29 PM

Thanks Todd. 97_gq_lwb put my vin in and it said it was a dx, with a diesel, 5 speed floor shift with E.G.I. So something isn't right there! I don't think it's had the plates swapped lol.

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97_gq_lwb

27th July 2012, 05:48 PM

It actually said this about yours.
Model code WGY60KMCJG
,
body wagon, engine tb42s, manufacured 1/91, colour code 4j8, interior colour code K,
grade dx, trans at speed f4, seat5p/8p , r seat 2p/s

Just the grade was wrong wasn't it ?
Like mine everything was right except the grade said it was a ti/ad when it is an rx everything else was right rd28 etc

taslucas

27th July 2012, 06:12 PM

Ahhh sorry. I must have read that diagram wrong. Well yeah everything is right then. It might well be a dx too.... Could the customer have optioned it out before buying or is it more likely the grade is wrong like yours?

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97_gq_lwb

27th July 2012, 06:25 PM

I have no idea mine still had rx stickers on it so i assumed it was an rx has no power windows but does have central locking and the other junk being a 97 i thought that was pretty much standard .
It has flares and ti alloy mags i have another rx here that has those crappy 6 inch 16's and no flares maybe i should check what it is.

97_gq_lwb

27th July 2012, 08:50 PM

Must be a nisfast error i just put the other ones vin in and it says the same ti/ad and it is an rx 96 model

NissanGQ4.2

27th July 2012, 08:58 PM

Must be a nisfast error i just put the other ones vin in and it says the same ti/ad and it is an rx 96 model

Yeh I wouldn't believe what Fast says when it comes 2 Grade and a few other things

97_gq_lwb

28th July 2012, 11:13 AM

Ok just had another look at it that reference i sent if you take no notice of the order of letters after y60 suggests with the j that yours is a gr or ti limited type.
Mine are WYGY60YFTMC112 WYGY60YFTM12
And with mine i think the y represents the type
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss117/it250k/modelcodes.jpg

taslucas

28th July 2012, 11:32 AM

Thanks but I still can not make heads or tails out of it lol! Do the little squares suggest there is nothing in that place in the vin? The letter J (for GR or Ti limited type) is the first character in my vin. Also the letter K (to represent auto transmission) does not appear anywhere in my vin???

NissanGQ4.2

28th July 2012, 12:04 PM

Ok just had another look at it that reference i sent if you take no notice of the order of letters after y60 suggests with the j that yours is a gr or ti limited type.
Mine are WYGY60YFTMC112 WYGY60YFTM12
And with mine i think the y represents the type

hahahah, wouldn't believe that either..................I have read models numbers that don't match that identification chart

97_gq_lwb

28th July 2012, 12:05 PM

That code WGY60KMCJG that i sent was decoded by nisfast from your vin
From what i can make of it KMCJG cross references with that chart but in no particular order.

Like k automatic m australia etc

taslucas

28th July 2012, 02:39 PM

ahhhh ok so you put the vin in then it gives you a code which you cross reference with the chart. Clear as mud!! So the last picture you posted was the code for your vehicle

97_gq_lwb

28th July 2012, 02:48 PM

yeah thats it cross references to m australia t turbo 5 speed etc for my code.

taslucas

28th July 2012, 03:58 PM

This morning i pulled off my alloy bar because it was farked. Ready to fit a steel bar (thanks trolatron). I also replaced my indicators because they got smashed when my bar got smashed and fitted semi-sealed headlights with phillips +100 globes. Now i have to drive like a nanna until i get the new bar on lol

growler2058

28th July 2012, 05:09 PM

Looks heaps better without the bar ;-)

taslucas

28th July 2012, 05:54 PM

Could not have looked any worse!!

Winnie

28th July 2012, 05:56 PM

Is that dint in the bonnet from the antenna mount? You're just a wrecker.

Tappa tappa

97_gq_lwb

28th July 2012, 06:15 PM

Looks like the dent in mine from the antennae mount as well.
You think i would have cut the stupid thing off when i painted the bar considering the car it came off had a dent from it in the same spot.
i just drilled a hole behind it and pushed it back out and primered it the other day.

taslucas

28th July 2012, 06:47 PM

yep its a dent from the aerial mount but its a bracket type mount, not welded onto the bar. I reckon ill mount the uhf aerial near the radio aerial. Apparantly they work better there. They get a sort of dish effect from the bonnet and windscreen/pillar. that, and its a bit more out of the way from branches.

taslucas

28th July 2012, 06:48 PM

Is that dint in the bonnet from the antenna mount? You're just a wrecker.

Tappa tappa

Go hard or go home. I got the GQ so i could hit sh!t lol!! haha

Winnie

28th July 2012, 07:55 PM

Wrecker boy

Tappa tappa

Robo

28th July 2012, 09:31 PM

Good news to hear about the warranty and fix, cheers

taslucas

28th July 2012, 09:37 PM

Good news to hear about the warranty and fix, cheers

Cheers mate:) Now just got to fix the original lock-up torque converter issue....

Robo

28th July 2012, 09:49 PM

Yep always something to do isn't there.
not trying to spoil it for ya but that's why I stay away from auto, to many thing to go wrong.
Besides I gave up the cigs 3 yrs ago and have to do something with a empty hand lol.

taslucas

28th July 2012, 10:15 PM

Thats the thing tho.... Ive know of plenty of mates that have the auto and not a thing wrong with them, i just got to isolate that one problem and fix the damn thing! Its worth the effort though an auto with the tb42 is amazing offroad...... A mate has an RB30 manual and i can idle past him on hills... Another mate has a TB42 manual and he has to use massive rpm and 36inch centipedes to slash his way up hills, my auto with 33" cooper stt's just lugs up em! Auto is great for offroad. even better for rock steps etc. You gotta get the feel for them though, it feels like your wheel spinning but its just the torque converter doing it thing.

Winnie

28th July 2012, 10:36 PM

Real men use three pedals

Tappa tappa

Robo

28th July 2012, 10:55 PM

Real men use three pedals

Tappa tappa

LOL, Never let a chance go bye.

joetrol

28th July 2012, 11:31 PM

haha love the snorkel

big bell

29th July 2012, 12:48 PM

piller bolts top it off

taslucas

28th August 2012, 08:30 PM

Yes yes yes..... My bar is coming along nicely:-)
It's thirsty work watching your mate work lol

Tap, crackle, pop

taslucas

28th August 2012, 08:32 PM

And my winch fits the holes that were already there... Awesome! I guess they're probably all the same??

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97_gq_lwb

28th August 2012, 09:02 PM

I am sure i seen your gq's twin on ebay lol

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-patrol-GQ-4wd-7-seater-reg-till-december-2012-/300770841569?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item460756d3e1

taslucas

28th August 2012, 09:19 PM

Haha nice, I reckon mine started out just like that, Ti mags and those homo fibreglass flares. Don't think it had the plastic body kit though. And my grill is 'metallic charcoal' but close enough

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NissanGQ4.2

28th August 2012, 09:29 PM

Cheers mate:) Now just got to fix the original lock-up torque converter issue....

I thought you said your gearbox is all good now???

taslucas

28th August 2012, 09:44 PM

I thought you said your gearbox is all good now???

Yep that was a month ago. When I got the TC replaced on warranty, the original lock up problem was still there but a week or so later it slowly just "fixed itself"!!! I know! It doesn't make any sense. It's kinda annoying because I don't know what happened and if it's gonna come back but at the moment ITS AWESOME woohoo!

Tap, crackle, pop

Trolatron

28th August 2012, 10:00 PM

Real men use three pedals

Tappa tappa

Hahahaha what a great bumper sticker...

Are you going to paint the steel bar...

NissanGQ4.2

28th August 2012, 10:10 PM

Real men use three pedals

Tappa tappa

Real men know Auto's kick ass over manuals and aren't ashamed to admit they drive a vehicle with a fair superior gearbox

taslucas

28th August 2012, 10:24 PM

Are you going to paint the steel bar...

Yeah Ray, it's got a fair bit of new steel on it that needs painting now lol.
Cheers again mate, it's a beauty:-)

Tap, crackle, pop

taslucas

28th August 2012, 10:34 PM

Mounts moved, winch cradle beefed up, massive 10mm plate used for new tow eyelets:-)

Tap, crackle, pop

97_gq_lwb

28th August 2012, 10:40 PM

i,d prefer an auto off road for certain terrain but i can rely on the manual trans and just couldn't trust an auto not to fail.

Winnie

29th August 2012, 07:18 AM

Real men know Auto's kick ass over manuals and aren't ashamed to admit they drive a vehicle with a fair superior gearbox

What would you know about real men Todd??? :D:D

Tappa tappa

taslucas

29th August 2012, 07:56 AM

What would you know about real men Todd??? :D:D

Tappa tappa

Not as much as you know about your window cleaner by the sounds of it!

Winnie

29th August 2012, 08:21 AM

He used three pedals.

taslucas

29th August 2012, 08:56 AM

And pushed all your buttons

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Winnie

12th September 2012, 02:12 PM

Have you fitted your bar up yet or what!???

taslucas

12th September 2012, 02:34 PM

Or what...... Lol. getting it blasted soon

Tap, crackle, pop

Winnie

12th September 2012, 02:40 PM

Taking your time haha

taslucas

12th September 2012, 02:45 PM

Tassie time;-)

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taslucas

12th September 2012, 03:02 PM

Not sure if I mentioned it, but I also got a second hand XD9000. Just got to tidy it up a bit and all good to go:-)

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Winnie

12th September 2012, 03:04 PM

That will only be any good to you if you get the bar on though!

taslucas

12th September 2012, 03:27 PM

Nothing gets past you!!
Haha

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taslucas

25th April 2013, 10:44 AM

Well its been a while so i thought id do a bit of an update. The GQ is running beautifully and i have been taking it out for day trips as often as i can:driving2:

I have recently purchased a second car as a daily driver so now i can drive the trol harder and also have a go at doing more mods myself without the need to get it all back together for the weekly grind to work:)

Heres a few random photos. The only trouble is that im the only one that takes pics when we're out so theres never any action shots of my rig lol, anyway heres a few......

Theres a "powerlines track" in every part of every state lol:)
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Oldinanatdamon1_zpsf7eb3cfb.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Oldinanatdamon1_zpsf7eb3cfb.jpg.html)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Oldinanatdamon2_zpsb06f9641.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Oldinanatdamon2_zpsb06f9641.jpg.html)

A 4wders favourite view:
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/OldinawithStremp1-4-1312_zps68cca8c6.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/OldinawithStremp1-4-1312_zps68cca8c6.jpg.html)

This hill is steep and fun. Trying to do it a few times before it gets too wet here....lol
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Oldinawalkingwithmitch_zpsd7cafd70.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Oldinawalkingwithmitch_zpsd7cafd70.jpg.html)

oops no trol!
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC_0127.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC_0127.jpg.html)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC_0230.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC_0230.jpg.html)

No points for guessing who's pulling who! hahah man they are crap 4wds
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC_0167.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC_0167.jpg.html)

taslucas

25th April 2013, 10:47 AM

A few more:

Nice engine bay:) Mud is great hey!?

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/PatrolDirtyengine.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/PatrolDirtyengine.jpg.html)

Sneaking in the Tarkine wilderness
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/RabalgaTrack18-8-128_zps1f092536.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/RabalgaTrack18-8-128_zps1f092536.jpg.html)

taslucas

25th April 2013, 10:59 AM

Ive got these snorkel pics on here somewhere already.... oh well

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Snorkel14_zpse8a507ff.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Snorkel14_zpse8a507ff.jpg.html)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Snorkel15_zps3cccf982.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Snorkel15_zps3cccf982.jpg.html)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Snorkel9_zps88de559d.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Snorkel9_zps88de559d.jpg.html)

A bit hung up on a night run....
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Farbs-Vanessasparty8_zpsb938948d.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Farbs-Vanessasparty8_zpsb938948d.jpg.html)

A bit hung up on mud lol
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Atfarbs3-3-122_zps9037a2a7.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Atfarbs3-3-122_zps9037a2a7.jpg.html)

The bad old days of an effed gearbox..... Glad i didnt attempt this myself, i would have run out of fingers and toes trying to count the bits lol
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Autoinbits3_zpsf27d5f56.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Autoinbits3_zpsf27d5f56.jpg.html)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Autoinbits1_zps0b2b7296.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Autoinbits1_zps0b2b7296.jpg.html)

Alitis007

25th April 2013, 11:03 AM

Nice shots Lucas, does being red make it go faster ?? Lol

taslucas

25th April 2013, 11:15 AM

More mud
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/bogged_zps2a30ed45.png (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/bogged_zps2a30ed45.png.html)

mmmmm shiny
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC_0070_zps7ee1a0fd.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC_0070_zps7ee1a0fd.jpg.html)

taslucas

25th April 2013, 11:16 AM

Nice shots Lucas, does being red make it go faster ?? Lol

Nah mate, just being a GQ makes it go faster:) lol

Winnie

25th April 2013, 11:32 AM

Where's your winch bar?

taslucas

25th April 2013, 11:54 AM

well i finally picked it up. looks good!. Now i just gotta get it home from work and bolt it on:) lol......................

Bloodyaussie

25th April 2013, 06:01 PM

You like ya mud dont you!!!

Some great shots mate......

taslucas

25th April 2013, 06:06 PM

yes, whats not to like? Funny thing is, half of those mud shots are in tassie summer.

taslucas

25th April 2013, 06:29 PM

Another old mud shot for Jonathan.
From the bad old days of the flexi snorkel lol
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC_0087_zpsd121f356.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC_0087_zpsd121f356.jpg.html)

A little day trip bbq spot:
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/JeffersonRoad3_zps1fd50989.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/JeffersonRoad3_zps1fd50989.jpg.html)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/DSC_0124.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/DSC_0124.jpg.html)

Picnic Trols:
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh519/taslucas1/Farbs-Vanessasparty16_zpsdb8b8ad5.jpg (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/taslucas1/media/Farbs-Vanessasparty16_zpsdb8b8ad5.jpg.html)