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Buschmaster
15th January 2012, 10:06 AM
Wich Nissan types come with a H266b or h260b rear and 233b front ?

And whats the diffrent between the 266b and the 260b ?

Greets,
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MudRunnerTD
15th January 2012, 10:16 AM
I think the 266b is a bigger rear and came out in the coil cab utes only. Some of the 4.8s may have ran them too. bigger, stronger and parts from the smaller dont fit.

hope thats enough info but others may have more if you need to know.

YNOT
15th January 2012, 11:46 AM
I have not heard of the H266b, only the H260.
There were 2 versions of the H260 used in GU Patrols, leaf sprung utes had a narrow track diff with full floating hubs and drum brakes, and some wagons (pre approx 2003 4.5 and 4.8 petrol and 3lt diesel - all manual gearbox only) had a wide track version with semi floating hubs and disc brakes.

Leaf sprung GQ utes used a narrow track semi floating hub H260 with drum brakes.

All GQ/GU variants used H233b front diff, GU front diff is 40mm wider with stronger CV joints.
I'm not sure what diffs were used pre 1988.

Tony

Buschmaster
16th January 2012, 12:20 AM
Ok thanks alot guys !!

And had the gq h260b also bigger cv,s as the gu axles have over the gq ?

And does caloffroad also make upgrades for the h260b ?


(pff the complicatedness of this Patrol axle matters makes me tired sometimes but i hope it will pay itsself when i bang the the perfect combination offroad !)
Thanks already !!!!

YNOT
16th January 2012, 06:22 AM
H260 is a rear diff only so there are no CV joints.
Why would you want to upgrade the H260? The H233b can handle 500hp in comp trucks, the H260 even more, we're talking turbo charged TB48's and supercharged 6lt chev' race engines.
Unless you're running 1000hp upgrading the H260 won't be necessary.

Tony

Buschmaster
17th January 2012, 06:00 AM
Oke thanks men ! very helpfull for me !!!

A few questions as i see you are an specialist;

The h233b is a front axle if im right ?

And that 500 hp comp trucs are that standard axles or upgraded with caloffroad(or another brand)

Im looking foreward to your answar !

YNOT
17th January 2012, 06:39 AM
I'm by no means a specialist.

All GQ/GU front diffs and most GQ/GU coil spring rear diffs (except those fitted with H260 as mentioned above) are H233b. The facory GU CV joints are significantly stronger than GQ CV's and well up to handling big HP/torque in comp use, some comp teams may be running upgraded CV's but I don't know what brand they are.

Tony

Buschmaster
17th January 2012, 08:04 AM
Is it possible to put a GU cvjoint in a gq axle ? (becouse with the gq you dont have al the electronical problems and costs !)

MudRunnerTD
17th January 2012, 08:08 AM
Is it possible to put a GU cvjoint in a gq axle ? (becouse with the gq you dont have al the electronical problems and costs !)

Short answer......NO.

it is common for guys to swap out the GQ front diff Housing for a GU housing. Bigger CVs, Bigger Axles, Bigger Brakes. Bolt up a steering box out of a GU with it and you have one very very tough setup. You'd want to be playing very hard or running 44s to warrant anything else on a weekend warrior mate.

Dont, by any means though think that the GQ front Diff is something to be sneezed at. Have you ever broken one? it is rare. I'd have a GQ front diff over a Toyota anything mate for tough. Your GQ setup will hold true. What are you trying to do? where are you in the world?

YNOT
17th January 2012, 08:16 AM
Is it possible to put a GU cvjoint in a gq axle ? (becouse with the gq you dont have al the electronical problems and costs !)

Long answer, still no! GU front diff has bigger swivel hubs to accomodate the bigger CV joints. As MR said just bolt in the complete brake to brake GU diff into the GQ, it's a straight bolt up fit - I've done the swap myself a few times.
You will need an adjustable drag link to suit a GU as the GU diff is wider and needs a longer drag link.

I think MR meant to say fit a GU steering box, not GQ. GU steering box is stronger and will give you a better turning circle. If you fit a GU steering box and diff you can use a standard GU drag link however it won't be as strong or adjustable as an aftermarket adjustable drag link.

Tony

Bigrig
17th January 2012, 08:21 AM
Long asnwer, still no! GU front diff has bigger swivel hubs to accomodate the bigger CV joints. As MR said just bolt in the complete brake to brake GU diff into the GQ, it's a straight bolt up fit - I've done the swap myself a few times.
You will need an adjustable drag link to suit a GU as the GU diff is wider and needs a longer drag link.

I think MR meant to say fit a GU steering box, not GQ. GU steering box is stronger and will give you a better turning circle. If you fit a GU steering box and diff you can use a standard GU drag link however it won't be as strong or adjustable as an aftermarket adjustable drag link.

Tony

Genuine question Tony - considering what I get up to when out and about, I've now got the GU steering box in, but should I be looking to swap the CV's also?? Don't really want to do the whole axle etc as I'd have to re-plumb and transfer the locker.

Buschmaster
17th January 2012, 08:29 AM
Okay yhen ! thanks very much again !! O im so happy with this forum cant tell you !!!!

1 thing i dont understand becouse my englisch is not to good is this part of text;

You'd want to be playing very hard or running 44s to warrant anything else on a weekend warrior mate.

Doeds this mean i can run 44 inch tireshighspeed on very rough tracs or i can NOT ?

BTW im in Surinam now where i do offroad but im from holland(where i take the truck as maybe 1 day i dont like it anymore here)

YNOT
17th January 2012, 08:40 AM
Genuine question Tony - considering what I get up to when out and about, I've now got the GU steering box in, but should I be looking to swap the CV's also?? Don't really want to do the whole axle etc as I'd have to re-plumb and transfer the locker.

GU CV's won't fit into a GQ housing, get a complete GU front diff and swap your GQ diff centre (with locker) into that. It's all nuts and bolts that way, no plumbing or backlash setting to do.

Tony

MudRunnerTD
17th January 2012, 09:05 AM
Okay yhen ! thanks very much again !! O im so happy with this forum cant tell you !!!!

1 thing i dont understand becouse my englisch is not to good is this part of text;

You'd want to be playing very hard or running 44s to warrant anything else on a weekend warrior mate.

Doeds this mean i can run 44 inch tireshighspeed on very rough tracs or i can NOT ?

BTW im in Surinam now where i do offroad but im from holland(where i take the truck as maybe 1 day i dont like it anymore here)


Glad you like the forum, so do we. Happy to help and welcome.

If your wanting to fit BIG tyres (37s, 38s, 40s or in the Arctic 44s) then i would highly recommend the diff swap to the GU front end as per Tony's post, I'd also be thinking seriously about fitting a Rear GU Diff disk to disk too as the wheel track is different on a GQ to GU. and the axles are bigger, brakes bigger.

If your running 35s then you can play pretty rough and still run a GQ setup no trouble at all. Hope that helps.

You have bought a Nissan Patrol. They are Tough as Guts mate. They are renowned for their strong Drive Train.

Buschmaster
17th January 2012, 08:38 PM
Alright thanks again !

Ive seen an video at yotube with a guy with 44 inch tires on a GU in the artic !;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGcFgyn57P8&feature=related

As well ass i seen very much other cool patrol offroading videos at you tube !!

I tryed to contact the guy in the video via youtube to ask if he,s running standard cv,s or caloffroad but he doesnt reply.

Bigrig
17th January 2012, 10:33 PM
GU CV's won't fit into a GQ housing, get a complete GU front diff and swap your GQ diff centre (with locker) into that. It's all nuts and bolts that way, no plumbing or backlash setting to do.

Tony

Thanks mate - know anyone with some GU complete diffs? Hint, hint, nudge, nudge .... lmao

sorry for the minor hijack people!!!

Buschmaster
22nd January 2012, 06:25 AM
Okey ! and whats a reasenable price for a set GU axles ?(h260rear h233bfront)?

YNOT
22nd January 2012, 07:09 AM
Okey ! and whats a reasenable price for a set GU axles ?(h260rear h233bfront)?

That depends how common they are in your part of the world. In Australia you could expect to pay around $3,000.

Tony

Buschmaster
22nd January 2012, 09:34 AM
Huhm okay i think here in Holland about the same price.

But is it true that the european GU axles are made of weaker material ?

YNOT
22nd January 2012, 02:35 PM
Thanks mate - know anyone with some GU complete diffs? Hint, hint, nudge, nudge .... lmao

sorry for the minor hijack people!!!

I do actually, give Steve (04OFF) a call - he might have a pair of diffs going cheap soon!!!

Tony

Bigrig
22nd January 2012, 02:37 PM
I do actually, give Steve (04OFF) a call - he might have a pair of diffs going cheap soon!!!

Tony

They're already sold!!! lol

Got onto that one quick!!!