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jake_308
11th September 2011, 01:29 PM
well its in.
total cost was locker $585 posted to my door, including compressor, air lines, switches etc
total cost for fitting was about $500
been using it a bit. so far no dramas as of yet.
for those interested heres the link
http://www.chinasoong.com/Air-Locker.htm :049:
big_fletch
11th September 2011, 01:34 PM
Good to hear mate, def another option over a auto-locker.. Do you know what model you fitted? And also front or rear?
jake_308
11th September 2011, 01:43 PM
Good to hear mate, def another option over a auto-locker.. Do you know what model you fitted? And also front or rear?
Front into a 00 gu coil cab. Not sure what model the locker was.
Mazodude
19th September 2011, 04:53 PM
keep us updated as to how it goes.
Airstrike
19th September 2011, 05:02 PM
I want one but worried about possible damage. I found this video and got me worried about it. So I am still tossing up a Auto Locker (Lock Right).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewt7f-h8Wn4
Personally I would not pay for an ARB Locker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL0hPEOStGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTKnGRNzigA&feature=related
Bigrig
19th September 2011, 05:21 PM
I want one but worried about possible damage. I found this video and got me worried about it. So I am still tossing up a Auto Locker (Lock Right).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewt7f-h8Wn4
Personally I would not pay for an ARB Locker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL0hPEOStGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTKnGRNzigA&feature=related
But as per the comparo in 4wd action - nothing (usually) bar comp trucks even come close to exerting over 6000 lbs of pressure on the locker ...
That said ... makes you stop and think ...
Peacemaker
20th September 2011, 02:51 PM
look at the specs on the vid. The axle failed at 6925ft/lb and the locker failed at 6412ft/lb still bloody hi and if thats even the locker Jake_308 is talking about could be an old video or a different product
Gas_Guzzler4800
20th September 2011, 08:06 PM
group buy? :P
big_fletch
20th September 2011, 11:23 PM
Might do some research and see what i can get one for through some of my contacts in China, depending on price i would almost be willing to try one..
Fletcha
jake_308
23rd September 2011, 02:47 PM
dropped the oil. very very light amount of shavings on the magnetic plug. happy so far!
swb_mav646
6th October 2011, 03:13 PM
dropped the oil. very very light amount of shavings on the magnetic plug. happy so far!
Isn't that something you should be worried about? Correct me if I am wrong.
macca86
6th October 2011, 04:27 PM
Isn't that something you should be worried about? Correct me if I am wrong.
just teething problems should be right by now all mated together. if it's still going on after the first oil change then I'd be worried
nickpeacock36
7th October 2011, 05:35 PM
Great to save money, but i would rather save a bit more and buy the real thing (they are on the ever expanding list). Australian designed and made. All that R&D stolen (as usual) by the bloody Chinese.
macca86
7th October 2011, 10:02 PM
Great to save money, but i would rather save a bit more and buy the real thing (they are on the ever expanding list). Australian designed and made. All that R&D stolen (as usual) by the bloody Chinese.
shopping list get too big become a wish list wish list becomes too big becomes a dream list dream list becomes too big it becomes I'm leaving and taking the kids haha!
taslucas
8th October 2011, 04:31 PM
shopping list get too big become a wish list wish list becomes too big becomes a dream list dream list becomes too big it becomes I'm leaving and taking the kids haha!
Exactly! well put. If a product does the same job for cheaper then id go the cheaper. Its the beauty of "trickle-down-technology". Eg; once there were no lockers, one day they'll be cheap and everywhere, and one day they'll probably be standard from the factory. ARB lockers are cheaper now than they were when they first came out.
Vl-nitron
9th April 2012, 10:05 PM
I have recently fitted a front Chinese locker in my patrol and works fine
And the compressor it come with does a good job have pumped up a few tyres with it no worries good value for money I say
Robo
14th April 2012, 10:47 PM
at the very least, the Chinese may keep local stuff at a realistic price.
even force design/strength improvements to bring us back.
Its getting to be a bit of a joke these days adding the $$ spent, and leaving it on the table for the other half to read will = divorce.
not lmao.
decent set of shocks = near a weeks pay blaar blar
Robo
14th April 2012, 10:53 PM
look at the specs on the vid. The axle failed at 6925ft/lb and the locker failed at 6412ft/lb still bloody hi and if thats even the locker Jake_308 is talking about could be an old video or a different product
was it a hi strength axle that failed?.
what's the strength of std axles ?.
megatexture
15th April 2012, 12:00 AM
didnt they say standard toyota axle
1madgerman
17th April 2012, 08:55 PM
Hows this locker going still strong?
Mudboy
18th April 2012, 08:06 PM
Great to save money, but i would rather save a bit more and buy the real thing (they are on the ever expanding list). Australian designed and made. All that R&D stolen (as usual) by the bloody Chinese.
I totally agree with this, I would prefer the ARB one
TKB
28th October 2013, 02:05 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread but....
I have been running one of these China made air lockers in the rear Dana 60 of my Rock Buggy for a season of abuse and not had a single problem. I made a youtube video when I first got the locker showing all the parts and whatnot.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8kUrWHSrQM
rusty_nail
28th October 2013, 02:22 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread but....
I have been running one of these China made air lockers in the rear Dana 60 of my Rock Buggy for a season of abuse and not had a single problem. I made a youtube video when I first got the locker showing all the parts and whatnot.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8kUrWHSrQM
hi mate, welcome to the forum, jsut a little thing we ask, can you please head over to the intro thread, say hello, and introduce yourself, its just a little somthing we ask everyone to do on here.
cheers
rusty
kevin07
28th October 2013, 10:25 PM
from a couple of guys at work who had them said that the hard facing wore out to quick constantly pulling shavings out till they failed
threedogs
29th October 2013, 08:11 AM
Things are cheap for a reason, be it labour or materials, NOS
Robo
29th October 2013, 11:11 AM
recycled, mixed metals, poorly mixed at that, are sure to-be in the rip-off copy.
verses
virgin materials, superior workmanship, work practice, and warranty.
and a decent days pay for the qualified trades people.
some things you simply cant cut corners on.
Sorry friend, guessing 99% here a daily drives,
a track car driven once in a while isn't real word.
nor is maintance comparable to real word.
If you've had a good run with such a part, were happy for ya, think yourself very lucky.
they are cheap for a reason, and it's not just the cheap labour.
cheap metals and quality controls come with a down side.
to be honest ya have to admit,
1/2 the price, that has a track record to fail sooner or later isn't economical and Never Safe At Speed.
m2cw
mudski
29th October 2013, 07:51 PM
I have one and its been abused everytime I go out, even dumped the oil to have a look and the oil was still like new. Each to their own I suppose but we need fact behind them words people :) Just because its chinese, doesn't mean its crap. OEM parts from your Nissan are made in China, doesn't mean their crap. Its great for someone like me who like to go out on the odd day or two and have some fun and to have the locker their if you need it is great. I certainly couldn't afford an ARB, Pro or E-Locker, nor justify the price so this sits good with me.
Only time will tell though.
P4trol
29th October 2013, 07:58 PM
There are three types of made in China though.
Made in China, with brand name.
Made in China with no recognisable western brand name. (the extra units they made to sell later.
The cheap copy, that is poor quality,
Everyone hopes for the second option, quality at a lower price.
Shops sell the first option for a price.
It's a bit like the saying: This house is protected by shotgun three nights a week. You guess which three.
Unless you have physically bought the item, it's hard to tell if you will get number two or 3.
taslucas
29th October 2013, 08:01 PM
I have one and its been abused everytime I go out, even dumped the oil to have a look and the oil was still like new. Each to their own I suppose but we need fact behind them words people :) Just because its chinese, doesn't mean its crap. OEM parts from your Nissan are made in China, doesn't mean their crap. Its great for someone like me who like to go out on the odd day or two and have some fun and to have the locker their if you need it is great. I certainly couldn't afford an ARB, Pro or E-Locker, nor justify the price so this sits good with me.
Only time will tell though.
Have to agree mate. This thread is about facts not assumptions.
It's great to see real life anecdotal evidence. Thanks for the info Jake and thanks for the input TKB
mudski
29th October 2013, 08:12 PM
There are three types of made in China though.
Made in China, with brand name.
Made in China with no recognisable western brand name. (the extra units they made to sell later.
The cheap copy, that is poor quality,
Everyone hopes for the second option, quality at a lower price.
Shops sell the first option for a price.
It's a bit like the saying: This house is protected by shotgun three nights a week. You guess which three.
Unless you have physically bought the item, it's hard to tell if you will get number two or 3.
Unless their fact behind those words there fella, I don't believe it. A large number of items you touch and see everyday come from China, Taiwan, India and some countries in Europe you would never expect to.
I am a big believer of you get what you pay for. But sometime I see things as you get what you've paid too much for. Now to go put my flame proof suit on.
Bloodyaussie
29th October 2013, 08:19 PM
I hate more than buying something cheap and it letting me down is something I paid big dollars for and it let me down....!!!!!!!
I will be changing my diff oil in the next 2 days and I will report what I find... I have done some hard driving in the last few months so it should be interesting.
lhurley
29th October 2013, 08:57 PM
Unless their fact behind those words there fella, I don't believe it. A large number of items you touch and see everyday come from China, Taiwan, India and some countries in Europe you would never expect to.
I am a big believer of you get what you pay for. But sometime I see things as you get what you've paid too much for. Now to go put my flame proof suit on.
Couldnt agree with you more. For me, a locker isnt justifiable at what ever absurd price arb ones go for ($1500 i think). I guess im kinda cheap, but that kind of money for an average joe blow that uses a locker once or twice a month is ridiculous.
A lot of people say, if you cant afford/justify an arb locker, go buy an auto locker, well, thats all good and well, but i dont want a locker all the time, i want a locker to get me out not to get me in.
mudski
29th October 2013, 09:44 PM
Don't bring the auto vs manual locker debate into this. Lol.
To put it plain. I'm happy with my purchase, and the price. Its worked, and very well.
rottodiver
29th October 2013, 10:46 PM
My front Arb locker has now been in 3 patrols (a manual 4.5 petrol then an auto 4.5 petrol and recently in a 3 litre diesel) my rear went In the 2 petrol patrols but couldn't go in the 3 litre diesel as was a large diff and is now in a race car gu patrol and both are still as new. They are about 7 years old and were fairly abused in the early days as I really didn't know how to use them effectively and flicked them on and off like a light switch.. I really don't believe the cheap Chinese ones are designed to last that long and to be honest I would rather have something proven if I was in the outback compared to "hoping a Chinese type one would last the trip"(could work out a lot more expensive). I believe most people here would have a similar attitude to this or we would all be attempting to cross the simpson or touring Australia in a "Great Wall".
No dis respect to the people that opt for the Chinese ones as this is just my opinion
taslucas
30th October 2013, 06:39 AM
My front Arb locker has now been in 3 patrols (a manual 4.5 petrol then an auto 4.5 petrol and recently in a 3 litre diesel) my rear went In the 2 petrol patrols but couldn't go in the 3 litre diesel as was a large diff and is now in a race car gu patrol and both are still as new. They are about 7 years old and were fairly abused in the early days as I really didn't know how to use them effectively and flicked them on and off like a light switch.. I really don't believe the cheap Chinese ones are designed to last that long and to be honest I would rather have something proven if I was in the outback compared to "hoping a Chinese type one would last the trip"(could work out a lot more expensive). I believe most people here would have a similar attitude to this or we would all be attempting to cross the simpson or touring Australia in a "Great Wall".
No dis respect to the people that opt for the Chinese ones as this is just my opinion
Totally allowed your own opinion but this thread was started to list the facts and performance of someone that fitted a certain product. It should not be filled with assumptions from people that don't have that product. There's many products I would not want to take across the Simpson but firstly, I still want to hear first person accounts about them, and secondly, I'm never going to be driving across the Simpson!
It's the same story with cheap brand winches. You hear good and bad reviews at the same time and 5 years ago hardly anyone would go near a cheapy but these days a lot of people have them. Now im all about quality that lasts but Im also all for hearing facts not assumptions
Bloodyaussie
30th October 2013, 06:54 AM
Totally allowed your own opinion but this thread was started to list the facts and performance of someone that fitted a certain product. It should not be filled with assumptions from people that don't have that product. There's many products I would not want to take across the Simpson but firstly, I still want to hear first person accounts about them, and secondly, I'm never going to be driving across the Simpson!
It's the same story with cheap brand winches. You hear good and bad reviews at the same time and 5 years ago hardly anyone would go near a cheapy but these days a lot of people have them. Now im all about quality that lasts but Im also all for hearing facts not assumptions
Here here my good man!!!!
mudski
30th October 2013, 03:45 PM
If I could have afforded an ARB or any Brand locker I would have gone down that track. Trust me.
I spent I reckon around 8 months trying to get some hard facts on this Chinese locker. (pretty much since I purchased the car). The only thing I found was an ARB video of them comparing the two, a bit biased I thought. There was plenty of people saying they're shit, I found numerous people over various forums who have bought them and said they had no issues with it. But I failed to find one who had a locker fail due to its quality and wasn't from abuse. I failed to find one person stating they had one and it failed actually.
So after months of scouring the net the best I could, I decided to make my own assumption that they mustn't be as bad as everyone thinks and went against the grain and purchased one. Fitment of the compressor was easy, wiring, even easier. One thing I noticed that even the coloured wires, some of the wires with two colours on them, is identical to the ARB diagram, all plug and pray.
Fitting the centre I had someone who knew what they were doing do that bit. Just getting the copper tube sitting in the right position was a down right PITA. But got it in the end.
From what I see and what I believe is, the locker I have is the old ARB locker. The newer designed ARB locker now has the ring that supplies the air to the centre on the opposite side now which would make life a whole lot easier. Although I still did find the ARB install manual for my exact style locker. Which was good.
Now. I'm happy. Everyones happy, scooby dooby doo! If my locker does fail, I will be on here like a bull at a gate. Lol!!!
Peace brothers...
threedogs
30th October 2013, 04:04 PM
Im getting a PRO locker no if or buts ,had that and an ARB job in my last 4x4,
Point I'm try to make is TJM now allow you to pay off your locker bit by bit
some no excuse for not fitting a Pro locker Pay what you can when you can
liftlid
30th October 2013, 04:26 PM
Until an item has been run in a vehicle for 100,000 km plus your not going to know its quality, you will get good quality from china IF the company in Australia demands good quality and that company has good quality control. Don't blame china for selling what has been asked for in the first place!
Putting an item in a weekend warrior / rock crawler may not be a good test for a diff as its not getting the constant heat build up that high speed gives. There is my 6 cents worth!!!!! Lol
First Patrol
30th October 2013, 07:52 PM
When this first post started I thought omg what is he doing!!!!!!
But upon hearing reports and doing my own research I'm am now leaning this way too.
We all know arb is a bit over priced but good. But there always gonna be competition out there. Have a look round your house, workshop and even your car and see what's NOT made in china lol .
IMO future generations are gonna need to speak Chinese cos that's the way this world is going
Cheers
mudski
30th October 2013, 07:57 PM
Until an item has been run in a vehicle for 100,000 km plus your not going to know its quality, you will get good quality from china IF the company in Australia demands good quality and that company has good quality control. Don't blame china for selling what has been asked for in the first place!
Putting an item in a weekend warrior / rock crawler may not be a good test for a diff as its not getting the constant heat build up that high speed gives. There is my 6 cents worth!!!!! Lol
Well said bud...
Dhuck
30th October 2013, 10:31 PM
The Chinese thing again. This is becoming a bit irritating. The majority of products made these days (not just cars etc...) are made in China or another of the Asian countries. It all comes down to QC and the companies importing these items following the said countries standards. Whether it be Australia or any other country. As long as the standards are met, the product is generally good. There will always be a failure somewhere along the product line.
Just my opinion.
P4trol
31st October 2013, 08:00 AM
Yes, but what I was trying to say earlier was that not every Chinese company has good QC or the original drawings. It's pot luck sometimes between manufacturers.
Limmy
31st October 2013, 10:50 AM
someone should start a thread of what chinese product they have bought that was cheap and good or cheap and nasty
macca
31st October 2013, 11:03 AM
Chinese only make crap if that was the spec they were given, or had to meet a price. Aussies love a bargain, its cheap for a reason.
They are also world leaders in technology and manufacturing processes, they build rockets for satellite deployment etc.
What ever they try to do they can not beat a shonky manufacturer who flouts the rules passing of their crap for a better product, that can happen in any country.
mudnut
31st October 2013, 02:05 PM
It's all good and well to buy Chinese stuff, but I still ask for Japanese made bearings.
jack
31st October 2013, 03:10 PM
It's all good and well to buy Chinese stuff, but I still ask for Japanese made bearings.
Agreed, can't beat them for quality. Japanese or Timken.
mudski
31st October 2013, 05:52 PM
someone should start a thread of what chinese product they have bought that was cheap and good or cheap and nasty
Hehe. We do WE ALL start?
Gq turbo
1st December 2013, 12:12 AM
Someone said in earlier post that arb is Australian designed and made....I'd check that first I'm sure there lockers are not made in Australia but I could be wrong :)
Matt195583
1st December 2013, 01:50 AM
I am running ARB lockers front and rear and have a few mates that have run chinese and arb lockers in fairly well modded weekend toys they have had several chinese failures due to "abuse" in fact the very same "abuse" that the ARB lockers copped with no damage. We all abuse our 4x4s to some extent otherwise we would always take the chicken track. I use mine primarily for hunting and at no time do I think it might be nice to be broken down in the back corner of a 100,000+acre property due to some inferior crap letting me down. You might also note that most farmers in the more remote regions drive Toyota not great walls.
You get what you pay for its as simple as that, I am also a boilermaker and have repaired plenty of crap that was bought in china because of the attractive price. Note that most of the Chinese crap was brand new and needed to be repaired/modified before it could even be put into service.
Bloodyaussie
1st December 2013, 08:02 AM
I am running ARB lockers front and rear and have a few mates that have run chinese and arb lockers in fairly well modded weekend toys they have had several chinese failures due to "abuse" in fact the very same "abuse" that the ARB lockers copped with no damage. We all abuse our 4x4s to some extent otherwise we would always take the chicken track. I use mine primarily for hunting and at no time do I think it might be nice to be broken down in the back corner of a 100,000+acre property due to some inferior crap letting me down. You might also note that most farmers in the more remote regions drive Toyota not great walls.
You get what you pay for its as simple as that, I am also a boilermaker and have repaired plenty of crap that was bought in china because of the attractive price. Note that most of the Chinese crap was brand new and needed to be repaired/modified before it could even be put into service.
Mate do you really know how much of your GQ/GU is actually made in China.... much more than you would know.
threedogs
1st December 2013, 08:53 AM
A fair bit of ARB gear is made in China under licence too,
So are you saying I shouldn't buy ARB gear ? lol
Cuppa
1st December 2013, 09:32 AM
I smile at threads like this as I recall almost identical conversations about Japanese motorcycles & cars when they were first starting to compete with the British & American products. Someone earlier said they always go for Japanese bearings (as do I) but I remember hearing owners of Brit vehicles back in the '70s saying they would never put Jap bearings in because they were all made pot metal, & their machine tolerances were no good. These were Triumph motorcycle owners - I probably said it myself back then, ha ha! In more recent years Korean vehicles have been more widely accepted too. I have no doubt that the Japanese, the Poms, the Yanks, & the Koreans have all produced good & bad. No reason the Chinese should be any different. To generalise about products based only on their country of origin is probably ignorant at best. I expect even the Russians have built something decent ...... Haven't they? ;)
threedogs
1st December 2013, 10:08 AM
Niva Lada but you'd have to be a collector lol
Cervantes
1st December 2013, 11:22 AM
I expect even the Russians have built something decent ...... Haven't they? ;)
Kamaz trucks are brilliant. They'll go places that most Patrols wont.
Try a YouTube search.
macca
1st December 2013, 05:49 PM
When I was a kid it was Jap Crap, then the Taiwanese took over.
Korean stuff, no way until I saw a programme on them making cargo or bulk handling ships.
They were made in sections like a loaf of sliced bread, joined together.
The reporter was looking at a flange that had to be joined to the next "slice", he said you would have to be millimetre perfect.
The engineer said they were micron perfect. Absolutely amazing.
Now its Chinas turn
my third 256
2nd December 2013, 07:09 AM
if it doesent leak oil its not a triumph
Cuppa
2nd December 2013, 07:53 AM
if it doesent leak oil its not a triumph
Built in anti corrosion system!
mudski
2nd December 2013, 08:12 AM
I am running ARB lockers front and rear and have a few mates that have run chinese and arb lockers in fairly well modded weekend toys they have had several chinese failures due to "abuse" in fact the very same "abuse" that the ARB lockers copped with no damage. We all abuse our 4x4s to some extent otherwise we would always take the chicken track. I use mine primarily for hunting and at no time do I think it might be nice to be broken down in the back corner of a 100,000+acre property due to some inferior crap letting me down. You might also note that most farmers in the more remote regions drive Toyota not great walls.
You get what you pay for its as simple as that, I am also a boilermaker and have repaired plenty of crap that was bought in china because of the attractive price. Note that most of the Chinese crap was brand new and needed to be repaired/modified before it could even be put into service.
I'm not questioning post but I spent literally 6 months scouring the net trying to find one person who owned a chinese locker and had it failed. I found none. But I did find plenty who wanted to put their unfounded two cents in and write them off. Hey, they might be crap! They might not! I guess I will find out. Its had a fair bit of abuse and so far so good.
taslucas
2nd December 2013, 12:59 PM
I've said this over and over again:
If you don't have one of these lockers fitted then please don't comment.
This thread is for real first person information on a product not hearsay and speculations.
Im pretty sure that nearly every mechanical part has been copied and refined over and over ever since humans have had steel.
(ps: a mate has a broken arb air locker in his GU right now)
liftlid
2nd December 2013, 04:34 PM
Then all this thread would say is
" mine hasn't broken yet !"
taslucas
2nd December 2013, 04:47 PM
Then all this thread would say is
" mine hasn't broken yet !"
And yes I think that is what's ment by the word "update" in the title.
Or
It would say "it broke after this amount of k's with this type of use".
But by your thinking that would mean every product review would day "mine hasn't broken yet".
Im just interested in seeing facts not the boring old ya get what ya pay for statments
liftlid
2nd December 2013, 04:49 PM
And yes I think that is what's ment by the word "update" in the title.
Or
It would say "it broke after this amount of k's with this type of use".
But by your thinking that would mean every product review would day "mine hasn't broken yet".
Im just interested in seeing facts not the boring old ya get what ya pay for statments
I've been having a good chuckle reading other opinions
Clunk
2nd December 2013, 04:50 PM
And yes I think that is what's ment by the word "update" in the title.
Or
It would say "it broke after this amount of k's with this type of use".
But by your thinking that would mean every product review would day "mine hasn't broken yet".
Im just interested in seeing facts not the boring old ya get what ya pay for statments
I agree.....
Bloodyaussie
2nd December 2013, 05:30 PM
I have been running mine for a little while now and have done some big trips and a few tough tracks.
So far I have had no issues except for sorting air leaks and have only done one oil change and there was a very small amount of metal on the magnet but nothing different from changing oil on a stock diff.
Before the xmas I plan to do another oil change and will see what the oil is like then.
I have a lot to learn when it comes to picking the right time to use it as I know using any locker in the wrong situation can cause it or other components to break..
I will give another update at the end of January. ..
growler2058
2nd December 2013, 06:03 PM
I have been running mine for a little while now and have done some big trips and a few tough tracks.
So far I have had no issues except for sorting air leaks and have only done one oil change and there was a very small amount of metal on the magnet but nothing different from changing oil on a stock diff.
Before the xmas I plan to do another oil change and will see what the oil is like then.
I have a lot to learn when it comes to picking the right time to use it as I know using any locker in the wrong situation can cause it or other components to break..
I will give another update at the end of January. ..
SHOULDA GOT A 4WDSYSTEMS LokkA man :)
Bloodyaussie
2nd December 2013, 06:28 PM
SHOULDA GOT A 4WDSYSTEMS LokkA man :)
Meh.....!!!!!!!!!!
taslucas
2nd December 2013, 06:30 PM
SHOULDA GOT A 4WDSYSTEMS LokkA man :)
I don't think he's into guys.........?
mudski
2nd December 2013, 06:58 PM
I don't think he's into guys.........?
He's not named Cuddles for no reason...
florix
5th December 2013, 09:03 AM
So what ever happened to the group buy?
mudski
5th December 2013, 12:44 PM
Was there a group buy happening?
threedogs
5th December 2013, 12:51 PM
I figured it was bag the china lokka thread.
@ BA you engage a locker before you need it,
not when you need it then its too late and puts big stress on "stuff"
Then just idle your way through
lhurley
5th December 2013, 02:53 PM
I figured it was bag the china lokka thread.
@ BA you engage a locker before you need it,
not when you need it then its too late and puts big stress on "stuff"
Then just idle your way through
I would be more inclined to use it on a "case by case" basis. eg. look at the track, decide to try without locker (tbh can still/is a lot of fun) and if you get through, sweet, if not, flick the locker on. But in other cases, you might look at the track and decide you want the locker for the whole thing.
I do get what you saying, but a locker can also get you in trouble, not just out.
mudski
5th December 2013, 03:02 PM
Having said that mate I have found when using the locker over not using it you can tackle the same obstacle at a lower speed putting less stress on other components and also going slower your not throwing the car around too.
lhurley
5th December 2013, 03:06 PM
Having said that mate I have found when using the locker over not using it you can tackle the same obstacle at a lower speed putting less stress on other components and also going slower your not throwing the car around too.
For sure, no doubt in that at all. Really just comes down to terrain (obviously) and how you drive. I dont go thrashing through the tracks majority of the time, cause i dont need to and i dont have a locker (other times is cause is fun) Tossing up whether i actually want 1 or not. (thats a lie, of course i want 1 :P)
mudski
5th December 2013, 04:21 PM
For sure, no doubt in that at all. Really just comes down to terrain (obviously) and how you drive. I dont go thrashing through the tracks majority of the time, cause i dont need to and i dont have a locker (other times is cause is fun) Tossing up whether i actually want 1 or not. (thats a lie, of course i want 1 :P)
You know you want one!!!!
Ask BA about breaking a control arm on a particular hill because to do this hill he had to go second gear and floor it. All the bouncing around ripped the arm off the diff. Did this same hill with the locker and yep, nothing broke.
See this vid. Of course the camera doesn;t do it justice.BA I think has footage of the same hill when he broke his car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlYljJuXtFc
and back down the same hill..... This you can kinda see how it was...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1BdsDrH4c
threedogs
5th December 2013, 04:28 PM
that's the beauty of a locker, agree case by case or track by track assessment.
Had double lockers in my last 4x4 for over 15 years, 100% agree with Mudski I idled everywhere
and made it. No track damage no repair bill at the top of the hill either,
love them just waiting on my Pro-locker to arrive
Bloodyaussie
5th December 2013, 05:00 PM
Here it is... excuse the old rookie mistake from Georges mate of holding the phone the wrong way!!!
The loud crack you hear is my lower control arm breaking and having to ratchet strap it back for a long slow drive home!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he_UFTvEzOc
florix
5th December 2013, 08:05 PM
How do you know which locker to buy on their website?
Chinasoong (http://www.chinasoong.com/Air-Locker.htm)
healy
5th December 2013, 08:32 PM
Rd136 for front rd135 for real
mudski
5th December 2013, 09:32 PM
Ring this dude. I got mine from him. So he'll warrant it locally.
http://www.4x4offroadclinic.com.au/
Bloodyaussie
5th December 2013, 09:37 PM
Ring this dude. I got mine from him. So he'll warrant it locally.
http://www.4x4offroadclinic.com.au/
Damian is his name and a good bloke who was very helpful well after the sale..
mudski
5th December 2013, 09:47 PM
Thats his name....
Matt195583
8th December 2013, 09:41 PM
Mate do you really know how much of your GQ/GU is actually made in China.... much more than you would know.
I know alot of stuff is made in China I dare say the stuff Nissan has produced there would have a bit of quality control going on.
Matt195583
8th December 2013, 09:51 PM
I'm not questioning post but I spent literally 6 months scouring the net trying to find one person who owned a chinese locker and had it failed. I found none. But I did find plenty who wanted to put their unfounded two cents in and write them off. Hey, they might be crap! They might not! I guess I will find out. Its had a fair bit of abuse and so far so good.
For sure have a go and keep us posted, like I say I know of two that have failed prematurely.
Bloodyaussie
9th December 2013, 07:22 AM
Do a search on busted ARB lockers..... there are heaps of failures!!!!!
threedogs
9th December 2013, 07:34 AM
If used correctly you shouldn't be breaking lockers.
Had a rear for over 20 yrs [ARB] and dual lockers for the last 10 yrs [Pro-locker]
, did some very nasty stuff over that time with no breaks,
Treat them and use them correctly and you should be fine.
If you're breaking them you need to alter your driving style
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