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Kizza23
29th March 2026, 07:32 PM
I have a 2005 GQ td42 DX ute. Owned it since new 175000kms . Stock as a rock.
Having intermittent no CRANKING problems. shorting out between the starter solenoid and starter positive works fine. Seems only to be when the engine is hot. I am looking for the location of the Fabled STARTER RELAY location. If anyone knows would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Kirren
mudski
30th March 2026, 07:33 AM
According to Patrol a Part its next the the main battery.

https://patrolapart.com.au/product/genuine-nissan-patrol-gq-y60-td42-rd28-starter-motor-relay
PeeBee
30th March 2026, 11:38 AM
Check your earth points as well, can be fickle with temp if they are loose or degraded.
Kizza23
30th March 2026, 12:08 PM
Cheers Mate.

Well found. $261 for a simple relay OMG. A Spot light relay will do fine i reckon. Once i find the F***er.
Am looking near the battery and nothing looks like it yet.
Thanks again
Kirren.
Kizza23
30th March 2026, 01:42 PM
Check your earth points as well, can be fickle with temp if they are loose or degraded.

thanks will do.

but still cant locate the relay.
Kizza23
30th March 2026, 01:51 PM
Cheers Mate.

Well found. $261 for a simple relay OMG. A Spot light relay will do fine i reckon. Once i find the F***er.
Am looking near the battery and nothing looks like it yet.
Thanks again
Kirren.

ok not so simple, more of a small contactor .
Kizza23
30th March 2026, 02:11 PM
OK here is the latest.

The helpfull man at patrolapart says that the 2005 GU TD42ti does NOT have a starter relay fitted. The circuit is ignition barrel, straight to the starter solenoid.
Kizza23
30th March 2026, 02:28 PM
sorry all.
2005 GU TD42ti
mudski
30th March 2026, 04:29 PM
Check the earths. Even add another from the motor to the body then to the battery. GU's are notorious for earthing issues.
NomadTech
30th March 2026, 07:34 PM
Looking at the drawings now. Yep, on manuals the solenoid is powered directly from the ignition. As Mudski says: Check Earth resistance from starter body to battery negative. ...Or your starter solenoid is shot. Failing solenoids often manifest problems when they're hot.

(I have the exact same vehicle, a 2005 TD42ti DX ute. Went and grabbed my good meter from the shed, measured the resistance from the body of my starter to the battery negative and it's too low for the meter to even read, just comes up 0.00 Ohms, if that helps as a reference).
Kizza23
31st March 2026, 10:34 AM
Gday Nomad,

The starter is only 2 yrs old. I dont think it is a failing solenoid when hot , because, it will always start using the screwdriver method when it is in the hot failed condition.
. If the solenoid was failed due to heat the screwdriver trick would not work..


Cheers
Kirren
Dhuck
2nd April 2026, 03:12 PM
Welcome to the forum mate.