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Cuppa
26th January 2023, 08:48 PM
I stuffed up a river crossing today. Concrete bottom but covered in deep soft sand. Was stuck in the middle for 10 minutes or so, not moving. Eventually managed to get out but water around my feet.
What an absolute pain in the rear it is stripping the entire ute cab to get the vinyl floor covering out, with it's thick absorbent felt underneath. What were Nissan thinking when they put this floor covering into a 4wd. Not sure what other models have, this is a DX ute
Has anyone replaced the floor coverings in their car to make it more 'wet' friendly. ie easy to remove & with sound/heat insulation which doesn't absorb water?
Anyone know of kits made for this purpose.
No idea where the water got in, it was on both driver & passenger side. Think it must have been because I was stationary in running water. Have previously been through deeper withou water getting in, but have never actually stopped more than very briefly.
PeeBee
26th January 2023, 09:36 PM
Check out carbuilders .com.au. - bayswater or close to it in Vic, high quality stuff, they heaps of stuff to sort this out. You want a closed cell foam, maybe a sound deadener as well as a high build foam product. Strip off the carpet underlay and away you go. i have done this, Works great, absorbs no water and is very quiet. Or Jing Ping it then the vinyl floor mat.
Cuppa
27th January 2023, 12:57 PM
Will look into that when we get home later in the the year. Thanks PeeBee. Would be nice to find a way of refitting the vinyl so it an also be removed without having to dismantle so much.
MudRunnerTD
27th January 2023, 02:49 PM
Bilge Pumps for the win. I cut my Carpet under the middle of teh front seats so the wagon carpet was in 2 pieces, made things much easier. I would look at a Polyurethane or rubber carpet underlay mate that is hydrophobic or non-permable and easy to remove and hang to dry then refit.
Tip12345
30th January 2023, 08:32 AM
did you plug the holes when you changed the seats ?
Cuppa
30th January 2023, 09:08 PM
did you plug the holes when you changed the seats ?
I did. On the way in here last may we crossed two rivers at 800mm & got through largely unscathed. Just a bit of dampness, & I traced where it had got in & sealed it. This time more got in but water depth was far less, but I was stationary in the water for 10 minutes & there was a reasonable flow coming from the driver side. Inside the car is almost dry now after several days with a pair of electric fans running 24/7, & the vinyl plus underfelt is getting there hanging on a line. There was a constant drip of water onto the ground though. Yesterday I got down to see where it was coming from. What looked like a small drain hole in the bottom of the driver side sill. I pushed a knife blade up into it & turned the drip in a full flow tap! It ran for for a long time, I'd estimate 8 or 10 litres of water at least. The Sill must have been completely full, but unless it all got in via that little drain hole I have no idea where it got in. If it was the sill which filled first it could have overflowed into the footwell via the holes that the plastic sill cover clips into? Floor was wet on passenger side footwell too, but nothing in the passenger side sill. At least I now know where the sloshing noise I could hear as I drove home was coming from!
Brissieboy
31st January 2023, 09:16 AM
Water is always a hell of a lot better at finding holes than people are. I reckon it is near impossible to seal a vehicle cabin to cope with water above sill height.
mudnut
31st January 2023, 04:45 PM
Water is always a hell of a lot better at finding holes than people are. I reckon it is near impossible to seal a vehicle cabin to cope with water above sill height.
Maybe find someone with a smoke machine to find the leaks.
BillsGU
1st February 2023, 09:38 AM
Maybe find someone with a smoke machine to find the leaks.
Or wait until it is dark and put a bright light under the car.
mudnut
1st February 2023, 10:57 AM
Or wait until it is dark and put a bright light under the car.
Oh yeah. I forgot he has the vinyl and insulation out :1087:
Cuppa
1st February 2023, 09:54 PM
Or wait until it is dark and put a bright light under the car.
Ta, tried that a short time ago, The only light which shines through is through the white plastic clip holders set into the floor, & they are all watertight.
86513
How can I tell if door seals are rooted & need replacing?
Vinyl flooring now dry & cab dry , so putting it all back together tomorrow hopefully.
MB
2nd February 2023, 07:57 PM
Wacky idea as usual, wondering if whilst the flooring is still out of the cab if filling the floor pans up with say 100mm deep of water through the closed doors windows could show the drips whereabouts coming out of? [emoji23]
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BrazilianY60
2nd February 2023, 11:29 PM
That is what thinking out of the box means, hahaha!
PeeBee
3rd February 2023, 06:22 AM
Wacky idea as usual, wondering if whilst the flooring is still out of the cab if filling the floor pans up with say 100mm deep of water through the closed doors windows could show the drips whereabouts coming out of? [emoji23]
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I was thinking along the same lines , only close the doors and drive back into the river and mark the leak points, might result in slightly less water to clear up?
Cuppa
3rd February 2023, 02:52 PM
Thanks embee, peebee & bee-razilian - legends! I need to use the car. All back together yesterday. Drove it for the first time this morning, not through any water & was relieved the strange sound I had heard as I was driving home from the dunking was no longer there. It was an odd sound coming from the rear of the car. Wasn't running water, but I now wonder if it was the filled chassis emptying & water maybe hitting the spinning prop shaft & being flung back upwards under the car. Have never heard it after other water crossings though.
Seems very obvious to me now that moving through water & stopping in water (at least more than momentarily) are very different events with different consequences.
garett
4th February 2023, 02:45 PM
don't the doors have drains ? ... my gq will push water up these drains into the cab
Stropp
5th February 2023, 09:50 AM
I saw a video of a bloke looking for leaks and they used a smoke machine inside with doors and windows closed to find the leaks, worked well! Y
PeeBee
5th February 2023, 02:17 PM
don't the doors have drains ? ... my gq will push water up these drains into the cab
Good point, mine certainly do. Wonder if that the reason there is the plastic sheet glued onto the door under the fabric/masonite door card?
MB
6th February 2023, 08:17 PM
Totally OFF track, as usual, back in the not so distant olden days, FJ/G60’s maybe too [emoji51][emoji23]
In-cab….air conditioning was almost unheard of so vehicles of the era utilised forward facing fender vents to relieve toasty feet from steel firewalls.
It took real ‘smarts’ (consciousness) to assess every little creek crossing for Lock-Down/Close Em, Enter ——tainerment [emoji736][emoji3590][emoji23]
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