GU engine options

[katwoman]

Evening all.
Looking at buying a grenade with the damage already done. What are the cheaper options and availability for a new motor ? Stick with another 3L , 2.8? It’ll be for number 1 daughter, so no V8s. What sort of $$$ am I looking at? Does a4.2 fit?
TIA


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[katwoman]

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[PeeBee]

Wtf ?....


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Generation xyz squared times 4 banaana shakes - who knows??

[PeeBee]

Kat, I had the 2.8TD in the GQ and swapped it out. It went ok as an empty vehicle, totally gutless offroad, even in low range and I tried every trick in the book to get it going, so i would not recommend that swap. I think the GU with the electronic pump control can be 'chip tweaked' but its a pretty small engine for a big vehicle. I think there are thousands of 3.0L to 4.2 conversions out there, totally possible. I think patrol a Part do a drive in drive out for something like 12-13K?? but a standard swap over engine with no mods would be the way to go I think as there appears to be inherent issues with heat and 'powered up' 4.2's - there are dozens of pages about it here alone.

I would be leaning towards a low mileage 3L motor from the engine series with the least documented variety, can't be specific as don't know enough about the 3.0, however they all can't have been lemons.

Hope this helps or triggers some other comments from those with more specific knowledge.

[katwoman]

Kat, I had the 2.8TD in the GQ and swapped it out. It went ok as an empty vehicle, totally gutless offroad, even in low range and I tried every trick in the book to get it going, so i would not recommend that swap. I think the GU with the electronic pump control can be 'chip tweaked' but its a pretty small engine for a big vehicle. I think there are thousands of 3.0L to 4.2 conversions out there, totally possible. I think patrol a Part do a drive in drive out for something like 12-13K?? but a standard swap over engine with no mods would be the way to go I think as there appears to be inherent issues with heat and 'powered up' 4.2's - there are dozens of pages about it here alone.

I would be leaning towards a low mileage 3L motor from the engine series with the least documented variety, can't be specific as don't know enough about the 3.0, however they all can't have been lemons.

Hope this helps or triggers some other comments from those with more specific knowledge.

It’s a start. Even tho she won’t be doing any 4x4 now, if the cars right she may do down the track. I’m just trying to gauge whether it’s financially viable option for her. She’s only 18, and not overly confident behind the wheel except in Katrol.


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[MB]

I reckon we too will be looking for a lowest possible km early 3.0L GU for Miss HB in a few years too Kat.
Loved our zippy old one pre 4.2TD upgraded wagon horse float slower chugging needs.
Plenty of the 3.0L’s don’t go pop if looked after and towing weights kept to a minimum.
Within 3 years they’ll be off their ‘P’ plate restrictions and it’ll give Steve and myself something to do transplanting LS1’s into them [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]


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[mudski]

Yep plenty of cheap Grenades going around. You'd get a running one for $500 I reckon. Just do this until until she's able to drive something with more grunt. A TD swap is doable but I reckon you'd be looking at 10-15K to do this.

[MB]

It’s a start. Even tho she won’t be doing any 4x4 now, if the cars right she may do down the track. I’m just trying to gauge whether it’s financially viable option for her. She’s only 18, and not overly confident behind the wheel except in Katrol.


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Apologies Kat Mate for ‘quoting’ like a toss pot here but hopefully makes sense at this time of night :-)

Tis truly excellent she feels comfortable and confident behind ‘Katrol’s’ big wheel and no doubt between Yourself & Steve you’ve both taught her how slow & steady driving wins all races!
IMHO: Don’t worry too much about donk variants for her first ‘BoTrol’ even a cheap heavy 2.8L GU early faithful could do the job nicely.
Plenty of big bunnies getting around your neck of the woods known too and I find our local neighbours lesser brand bar less twucks “fuel economy” spruiked savings are far outweighed by their panel beating shop time :-)

Shock & awe time, pictures tracked down tonight of my beloved old work GU faithful, 60 <> 60 kmph ‘P’ plate near ‘T’ bone lucky 18YO beautiful couple well foolishly survived thankfully [emoji3590][emoji3590]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/26.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/27.jpg




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[growler2058]

Apologies Kat Mate for ‘quoting’ like a toss pot here but hopefully makes sense at this time of night :-)

Tis truly excellent she feels comfortable and confident behind ‘Katrol’s’ big wheel and no doubt between Yourself & Steve you’ve both taught her how slow & steady driving wins all races!
IMHO: Don’t worry too much about donk variants for her first ‘BoTrol’ even a cheap heavy 2.8L GU early faithful could do the job nicely.
Plenty of big bunnies getting around your neck of the woods known too and I find our local neighbours lesser brand bar less twucks “fuel economy” spruiked savings are far outweighed by their panel beating shop time :-)

Shock & awe time, pictures tracked down tonight of my beloved old work GU faithful, 60 <> 60 kmph ‘P’ plate near ‘T’ bone lucky 18YO beautiful couple well foolishly survived thankfully [emoji3590][emoji3590]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/26.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/27.jpg




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Ahhhhhh phuk!

[growler2058]

Wtf ?....


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And GONESKI!! Gave him a good ol bitch slap for ya Kat!

[katwoman]

Apologies Kat Mate for ‘quoting’ like a toss pot here but hopefully makes sense at this time of night :-)

Tis truly excellent she feels comfortable and confident behind ‘Katrol’s’ big wheel and no doubt between Yourself & Steve you’ve both taught her how slow & steady driving wins all races!
IMHO: Don’t worry too much about donk variants for her first ‘BoTrol’ even a cheap heavy 2.8L GU early faithful could do the job nicely.
Plenty of big bunnies getting around your neck of the woods known too and I find our local neighbours lesser brand bar less twucks “fuel economy” spruiked savings are far outweighed by their panel beating shop time :-)

Shock & awe time, pictures tracked down tonight of my beloved old work GU faithful, 60 <> 60 kmph ‘P’ plate near ‘T’ bone lucky 18YO beautiful couple well foolishly survived thankfully [emoji3590][emoji3590]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/26.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/12/27.jpg




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Holy shit. We’re only looking at this particular GU as it’s fully loaded , but blown motor. After doing a bit more homework, it may not be viable after all. She’ll have to stick to her pulsar a little longer.


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[MB]

Bugger, sorry to hear Kat Mate, sounds like it had some really good healthy fruit bolted on too, almost, but not quite ready to go (Katrol #2) just yet[emoji22]

Honest question for any Legends in the know out there safety wise for our Littlens first ‘rural’ cars:

Many manufacturers spruik ‘crumple zones’ impact safety and we’ve all no doubt viewed crash test dummies calculating solid block stationary walls in slow motion etc....

Physics wise, do they ever genuinely test unfortunate head on collisions and the variable oncoming weights upon either object like a Kangaroo, Deer, Bommodore versus say a Yanky Ford F650?







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[MB]

FWIW: Horsey Mrs MB & 4YO StepDaughter back then and some 12 odd years ago now moved up to the Hills from open country with a Daewoo Lanos daily and a lowered HX-308 1 Tonner for weekend hauling nag needs. After a few very quick wildlife scares my offering of a 3.0T/3.0L with OEM bar was quickly snapped up, keep the two low riders sell off change before certain destruction [emoji6][emoji106]



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