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Cuppa
1st September 2020, 06:19 PM
A new discovery for me. I guess I may be behind the times & the only one here who didn't know this sort of bandage existed, but a few days ago when I hurt my foot we found some in a drawer here at our farm sitting location & I gave it a go, despite the fact that it was bright orange. :)

It is IMHO by far the best bandaging I've ever used! Easy to apply, & it sticks to itself so no fastening required. Doesn't slacken off or slip. If removed with care it can be re-used several times. & is not affected by getting wet.

I used it for support, but it would work just as well for holding a dressing onto a wound, or even for pressure bandaging of a snake bite.

We think it that good that we will replace all the bandages in our first aid kit with it.

Being so impressed with it, I went looking for some online - comes in a variety of widths, but I think the 10cm wide one is best for 'all purpose', it does get narrower with each use. You can pay a lot of money for it, especially if it comes from medical or pharmaceutical suppliers, but there are plenty of suppliers who sell for around $3 per 10cm x 4.5m rolls (note the length is the stretched length. Straight off the roll unstretched this equates to around 2 metres. It is sold with a variety of descriptions but 'cohesive' & 'vet wrap' often figure, as it is also sold for bandaging animals because it will hold in place & will not adhere to their fur.

I had it on bare skin, & if anyone is going to get an allergic skin reaction it is generally me. No sign of anything like that after 4 days.

Anyway just a heads up for folk to consider for their first aid kits.

I'm not promoting any particular seller, but to give a better idea of what I've described this is the ebay ad I just ordered from:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10X-Pet-Horse-Dog-Cat-Wound-Vet-Cohesive-Bandage-Self-Adherent-Animals-Wrap-Tap/124233696783?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=425089171799&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

PeeBee
1st September 2020, 06:31 PM
Looks good Cuppa. I have sent a note off to the supplier to ask about TGA approval, fit for use with humans etc, and will let the group know what they come back with - maybe they don't need to be a registered and approved human body contact dressing?

Cuppa
1st September 2020, 06:41 PM
Looks good Cuppa. I have sent a note off to the supplier to ask about TGA approval, fit for use with humans etc, and will let the group know what they come back with - maybe they don't need to be a registered and approved human body contact dressing?

I'd be most surprised if they answer in the affirmative PeeBee. But having used as I described, it really isn't a concern of mine. I probably wouldn't apply to an open wound, but would have no qualms using it to hold a sterile dressing in place. Lets face it what would most folk in need of a bandage do, if not having one out in the middle of woop woop? I reckon they'd tear strips of a shirt or a skirt or whatever & make do without giving thought to whether their clothing was TGA approved.

MB
1st September 2020, 06:55 PM
I should’ve bought shares with the inventor of that great stuff Cuppa, girls here wrap kilometres of it yearly on their horses legs. Sometimes I don’t even think they’re injured, pretty in pink leggings maybe :-)


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Dhuck
1st September 2020, 07:15 PM
I have had this type of bandage applied by a medical facility here in Brisbane before. Thought it was the (no pun to my user name) ducks nuts.

PeeBee
1st September 2020, 07:29 PM
I'd be most surprised if they answer in the affirmative PeeBee. But having used as I described, it really isn't a concern of mine. I probably wouldn't apply to an open wound, but would have no qualms using it to hold a sterile dressing in place. Lets face it what would most folk in need of a bandage do, if not having one out in the middle of woop woop? I reckon they'd tear strips of a shirt or a skirt or whatever & make do without giving thought to whether their clothing was TGA approved.

True Cuppa, BUT, there are a raft of products that are used in the vet industry that have similar 'logical application' in the human domain, yet are not allowed, according to my local VET at least. Just a check, thats all, I think its a great product and certainly would offer a better alternative to a sweaty ripped up shirt if it was handy. Its a very similar product to the stretchy elastic bandage that is allowable for human use, so interested to see if a validated answer comes back or not.

PureCaboose
2nd September 2020, 08:53 AM
I have boxes and boxes of this in all different sizes and colours. Common names ad Vet Wrap and Co-adhesive

I even some some with glitter on them (which the clients hate as it gets all through the car on the trip home).

I don't know if they are approved for human use, but I will check. There are some here in my office that came from the local chemist, so I would presume they are approved but I will check.

I use them a lot and have used them on humans when I have to.

They are NOT for use in sterile as they are not supplied sterile. If you have an autoclave at home (or work) like I do you can sterilise them, but why would you as you would put a sterile dressing down first.

The tape is not 'sticky' and only sticks to itself. I have used it on lenses when out take photos of wildlife to reduce reflection and glare as it comess right off without sticking to the lense body.

Great stuff, take care as you can put it on too tight though.

When putting it on, unroll a quantity and re-roll onto the roll as it is very attached when you start to unroll it. I hope that makes sence.....

Greg

PureCaboose
2nd September 2020, 09:04 AM
So I have done some research, and there are many human medicine equivalents (human medicine is not my area)

3M makes Coban, some Euro version etc and I found TGA approval for a compression bandaging kit that contains the product. While it does not appear to be directly approved by the TGA, I suspect it does not require approval.

All in all, I use and will continue to use it both medically as well as for random things around the house.

Greg

PeeBee
2nd September 2020, 09:13 AM
Thanks Greg, no answer yet from the ebay vendor.

MudRunnerTD
2nd September 2020, 09:27 AM
Sports Physios and Trainers use it to strap shoulders and legs for ever.

Grant209
3rd September 2020, 09:19 AM
It's great stuff, great for sprains and strains . . . especially around joints, as it bonds onto itself and keeps the tension for over much longer period of time then your standard heavy crape bandages.

I don't use them in My Event Kits for cost reasons, but I do have about 5 or so for personal use, and do recommend them to Participants of Rider Down and Remote Area First Aid Training Course I do, as once you apply them you generally don't need to reapply them.

Another item I recommend to those who visit Off the Beaten Tracks and remote travel is the Combat Tourniquet - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Combat-Tourniquet-Application-Medical-First-Aid-Emergency-Quick-Release-Buckle/124306974197?hash=item1cf145e5f5:g:9VwAAOSwxONfONH w&frcectupt=true

Quick and easy to apply to stop major life threatening bleeds in an Emergency.

As I do a lot of Charity Motorcycle Rides, I carry 4 in my Event Kit on the bike . . . nasty what a guard rail can do.

I also always carry a Roll of Cling Wrap / Glad Wrap as part of my Burns Kit in my truck as well. Very good for dressing burns - sterile, non stick, transparent (to visually monitor the injury) and quick and easy to apply.

Cuppa
3rd September 2020, 12:22 PM
Thanks for your post Grant. Have just ordered a combat Tourniquet as a result. Just hope we never need it. We always have clingfilm with us in our kitchen supplies. Hadn't thought of it as a first aid item .

I will refrain from getting on my soapbox about a pet issue of mine .... Wire Rope 'safety' barriers - hate them with a vengeance.

MudRunnerTD
3rd September 2020, 04:14 PM
Yeah Cheers Grant, i also just ordered one for my kit. I like the Glad Wrap idea too as it is often in the drawers anyway.