2002- 2004 gu

[Almost]

I have heard avout a grenade engine in early 2000 model gu's is this common or a hoax? Are there specific years that have this issue ?

Im looking onto a 2002 and 2004 models at the moment any major issues that you might be able to inderline may help greatly.
Thanks, Simon.

[rusty_nail]

Hi Simon, please head over to the intro thread and introduceyourself, you will probably get more inviting answers after doing that mate

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[rusty_nail]

Hi again mate, thanks for following up on the intro.

I have a 2004 direct injection 3L. It Lewis on me in 2015 4 months after buying it. Spend over 10k to full rebuild. New ip new head new turbo.

The head just cracked again and I'm currently not driving it. It's just a bloody dud.

There are no specific models which have this issue, there are plenty of people on here who have good experiences with their 3L. It is just a lottery. From my experience, the direct injection motors are far more likely to blow than the crd. If you can go a year newer(I think crd started in 05 or 06) then your much less likely to have issues imho.

If you aren't able to do that, first thing you should do upon purchasing a di motor would be NADS. Plenty of info on that on here, it was pioneered/perfected by some of our members on here. Improves your motors chances of survival.

Good luck in the hunt

Rusty.

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[mudski]

I dont think I've ever heard of a Common Rail grenading. But, there is still a heap of grey nomads getting around in early GU's with a gazzilion k's on them and no issues. No matter what you hear, I think buying one of these motors is a lucky dip.
If you are adamant on buying Direct injection 3Ltr, be prepared for the worst, then if it happens, you knew it was coming, if it doesn't. Scored! Having said all that. They go alright for the size of the motor.

[MB]

Mrs MB and I once squeezed a good solid 100,000kms out of a beaut 2001 ZD30 driving/towing ever so horsey float mountain hauling cautiously. Fanning the clutch for torquey rise takeoffs was the found telltale for us upgrading to her TD42T lugging faithful slug. Do still genuinely miss the 3.0L unladen zippyness, stock alloy bar and OEM
plastic bits everywhere, it was truly a fast little big awesome truck[emoji106][emoji106]


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[Almost]

Thanks heaps rusty sounds like i might be in for some headaches lol might have to avoid the whole thing. Is there some way of testing to see if it will blow? I might pay to get it checked over by a professional link up the computer and all. For now ill research NADS
Thanks, Simon

[rusty_nail]

Thanks heaps rusty sounds like i might be in for some headaches lol might have to avoid the whole thing. Is there some way of testing to see if it will blow? I might pay to get it checked over by a professional link up the computer and all. For now ill research NADS
Thanks, SimonEvery car is a headache/gamble mate. The di 3L are just a high risk. It doesn't happen to everyone but it happens, a fair bit. If you can get a crd, you're chances improve significantly

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[rusty_nail]

So series 3 you wouldn't be too stressed about? Not sure if i can budget a 2007 so the 2004 series 3 looks affordable and not as fragile?

Bringing your intro question over here.

Guiv series 4 started Sept 04, its the model I have. The motor changed to crd in 2006 I believe, maybe even earlier. If your budget is tight look at these year models, you might find something you can afford. Also guiv are MUCH nicer inside

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[mudski]

Mrs MB and I once squeezed a good solid 100,000kms out of a beaut 2001 ZD30 driving/towing ever so horsey float mountain hauling cautiously. Fanning the clutch for torquey rise takeoffs was the found telltale for us upgrading to her TD42T lugging faithful slug. Do still genuinely miss the 3.0L unladen zippyness, stock alloy bar and OEM
plastic bits everywhere, it was truly a fast little big awesome truck[emoji106][emoji106]


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Yeah they are pretty zippy hey. But chuck a load on them and it changes. A much better option for a city daily shopping trolley in my opinion.


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[MB]

Honestly Mudski mate, we were back then truly impressed too with their top end towing abilities, twas only the low low down clutch fanning caper that we knew wasn’t going to last long or at least replace plates half yearly. Horses floating, do need super smooth takeoffs and slow uphill cornering which unfortunately 3.0L in any 3.0T foolish truck choice for us was never going to work. Not the vehicles fault but ours :-)


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[mudski]

Yeah I wasn’t impressed with its towing capabilities at all to be honest. While it was ok towing our camper along a flat road, hit a hill and your soon hunting for lower gears. The mighty TD (with a slight tickle under the hood) will round up a line of nomads like they are standing still on pretty much any hill.
If I had a choice, driving a ZD in traffic or around town is far better than the TD. Boost straight off the pedal....


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[MB]

A slight tickle TD4.2T :-)
You’re running a good top 50% weapon above stock these days maybe?


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[MudRunnerTD]

I have heard avout a grenade engine in early 2000 model gu's is this common or a hoax? Are there specific years that have this issue ?

Im looking onto a 2002 and 2004 models at the moment any major issues that you might be able to inderline may help greatly.
Thanks, Simon.

Hi mate, you have had some great advice here. to add my 2 cents. The ZD30 was nearlly the first 3lt diesel to go bang. Lots of them did it. Nissan got cained for it. Nissan Drivers and the GU got cained by Toyota drivers for the "Grenade" Engine.

Rightio i say!!! The Toyota Clan kept very very quiet about the number of Prados with 3lts in them where going bang too. It seems many of the smaller diesels are going bang quietly. Now there are a few Common Rails going bang too but the CRD ZD30 it not one of them from what i know. Let us talk Prado, Rangers Even the Colarado are all going bang when they are getting a few kms on them (+100,000) (aint that many.....). Let us now also talk about the mighty 200 series with the stomping V8 Twin Turbo or teh 76 and 79 series with the same V8 Turbo... Google "Dusted V8 Landcruiser" for an interesting read.

As Rusty states, if you can extend your search for a CRD in the GUIV then thats the pick. If you can find a decent TD42 then that is my choice for sure.

Good luck with your search.

Remember, every other marque wishes their drivetrain was a Nissan Patrol....Just Say'n.

[Dr Gary]

DI ran until the end of 2006. CRD hit the market in 2007. I have the 2006 DI.
Had the joy of a grenade with my 2006 Di, but I am pretty sure I was over fueling--mods to MAF, turbo etc. I am now back to factory tune--still have catch can and EGR.