Ellis Track Sat may 18th

[JonnoD]

Hi all,
I am keen to do Ellis track before a do the body swap on my 80 series.
Meet in Yarra Junction at 8.30am to get a nice and early start.
Once we have done Ellis trk we can do some other tracks but I am not sure how long it will take us.
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[Plasnart]

Anywhere between half an hour and a day!

[AB]

Ok I will try and book this in mate, life is a bit hectic at the moment but I'll try and make it happen.

[MudRunnerTD]

Hi all,
I am keen to do Ellis track before a do the body swap on my 80 series.
Meet in Yarra Junction at 8.30am to get a nice and early start.
Once we have done Ellis trk we can do some other tracks but I am not sure how long it will take us.
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Should of been in it. it landed HARD.... Twice!

[Rossco]

Pretty sure i am free sounds good !

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[JonnoD]

Awesome rosco.

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[AB]

Muddrivewaysitter! It’s time to drive that puppy, get amongst it brother!
MudRunnerTD


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[Baby Daddy]

Following... may be keen for my first trip out with you guys if work permits

[Winnie]

My tyres are no good at the moment but I would be keen to be winch bitch for somebody.

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[rusty_nail]

Muddrivewaysitter! It’s time to drive that puppy, get amongst it brother!
MudRunnerTD


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[mudski]

Following... may be keen for my first trip out with you guys if work permits

You are aware of Ellis track and the high potential of panel damage?

[Rossco]

My tyres are no good at the moment but I would be keen to be winch bitch for somebody.

Sent from my SM-G960F using TapatalkWelcome to jump in with us if you like. .

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[Baby Daddy]

Hi mudski, yes very familiar... seen it on YouTube many times, i reckon ive watched almost every vid .
Should be right with my 32" all terrains and a winch?

[Winnie]

Welcome to jump in with us if you like. .

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkCheers mate, we will chat this weekend!

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[Winnie]

Hi mudski, yes very familiar... seen it on YouTube many times, i reckon ive watched almost every vid .
Should be right with my 32" all terrains and a winch?To be honest mate I wouldn't even think about it with those tyres. I did it with 33" muddies but it was a lot harder than everybody else with 35s. Sorry mate but you would be holding everybody up for sure.

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[Baby Daddy]

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Ok i think its time i stopped trolling I've had my fun , but yes thank you mudski and winnie for your honest concerns...

Done ellis probably like 20 to 30 times. From dry as a nuns nasty to 40mm rain.

37 inch pitties
Twin locked
4:6 diff gears
Fully built fully manualised auto with a fully built forged barra turbo paired up to a procharge 67mm turbo and water to meth injection.

Not that i need the power there as im always crawling but its fun on stockies when you're at a set of lights with an ls commo ;)

[Baby Daddy]

Ps can i come now? ;)

[rusty_nail]

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Ok i think its time i stopped trolling I've had my fun , but yes thank you mudski and winnie for your honest concerns...

Done ellis probably like 20 to 30 times. From dry as a nuns nasty to 40mm rain.

37 inch pitties
Twin locked
4:6 diff gears
Fully built fully manualised auto with a fully built forged barra turbo paired up to a procharge 67mm turbo and water to meth injection.

Not that i need the power there as im always crawling but its fun on stockies when you're at a set of lights with an ls commo ;)Hahahaha well played mate. Like a fiddle

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[Baby Daddy]

Pps if we have time and its not a massive group we can almost get time to do gentle annie, bullocks and robbos

[rusty_nail]

Pps if we have time and its not a massive group we can almost get time to do gentle annie, bullocks and robbosCome up to the Meetup in Christmas hills this weekend mate, you can compare "tyre sizes" with winnie and meet the crew

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[Winnie]

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Ok i think its time i stopped trolling I've had my fun , but yes thank you mudski and winnie for your honest concerns...

Done ellis probably like 20 to 30 times. From dry as a nuns nasty to 40mm rain.

37 inch pitties
Twin locked
4:6 diff gears
Fully built fully manualised auto with a fully built forged barra turbo paired up to a procharge 67mm turbo and water to meth injection.

Not that i need the power there as im always crawling but its fun on stockies when you're at a set of lights with an ls commo ;)

Hahaha ohhhhh well in that case... Bring it on!

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[Baby Daddy]

Hahaha ohhhhh well in that case... Bring it on!

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Cheers pal, there is another very very interesting track in that area that i also frequent with a few of the comp truck boys but its not marked on the maps.
Some of you may have driven it or know about it... 🌅

[Winnie]

Cheers pal, there is another very very interesting track in that area that i also frequent with a few of the comp truck boys but its not marked on the maps.
Some of you may have driven it or know about it... [emoji560]I've seen a few vids but not seen the actual track, it looks shit hot!

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[Baby Daddy]

I've seen a few vids but not seen the actual track, it looks shit hot!

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https://youtu.be/qsrpXgXNHgo

This is probably the most comprehensive and detailed video of it... didnt drive it that day as the rig was getting tuned. I was on the camera that day

You guys wpuld probably know my car as "barra gu" on insta or other forums like 4x4 earth. Dont know why i chose baby daddy as me user name back when i made my account here.

All of us in our club are twin locked on 37s but the jeep is on 40" treps

[Baby Daddy]

This is my rig... i really should add more content about it here when i have time....

https://4x4earth.com/forum/index.php?threads/barra_gu-400rwkw-xr6-turbo-engine-conversion-gu-patrol-georgies-twin-locked-gu-patrol.40244/

[Baby Daddy]

Come up to the Meetup in Christmas hills this weekend mate, you can compare "tyre sizes" with winnie and meet the crew

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Pick up the rig from independant motorsports tomorrow but have to change my winch rope first, more info on it please. We doing tracks or its just a meet?

[AB]

That was well played mate, I was thinking oh shit this bloke will need to be skull dragged up all these tracks!

Are you bringing kids Jonno?


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[rusty_nail]

Pick up the rig from independant motorsports tomorrow but have to change my winch rope first, more info on it please. We doing tracks or its just a meet?Just a friendly Meetup mate. Come up and have some lamb, see if you get along with everyone etc. It's very family friendly too, if you have family, bring them along. If interested send MB a message

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[Sprock]

Old mate can get initiated into the patrol group and either tow Jonno or offer him his RACV membership when the 80 series ( probably) breaks down . Again 🤣 , sorry Jonno I couldn’t bite my tongue any longer, 1st thing I’ve posted on here in months & im sticking the knives into you 😬

[PeeBee]

Great video, only got 8 minutes in as am at work and need to stop and do something! Bit out of my league and truck potential but great to see the techniques demonstrated, like the slow and steady approach. Will finish the show tonight I reckon.

[Rossco]

Pick up the rig from independant motorsports tomorrow but have to change my winch rope first, more info on it please. We doing tracks or its just a meet?Yep just a meet, here's the link to the thread. .

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enissanpatrol%2Eco m%2Eau%2Fforums%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D44769&share_tid=44769&share_fid=16273&share_type=t

Fairwell meetup for the great man - Sir Roofy - Friday 3rd May to Monday 6th May

Back to the tracks, would be keen to check out the ones up Labotouch area don't know far the fire got up that end. Also know of the location of one around corner to Ellis but never done so would be keen 4 sure . .


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[JonnoD]

My tyres are no good at the moment but I would be keen to be winch bitch for somebody.

Sent from my SM-G960F using TapatalkI will have my big tyres on Winnie. You can use my 33" middies if you want.


I also checked the weather and it looks like things could get interesting...
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[JonnoD]

That was well played mate, I was thinking oh shit this bloke will need to be skull dragged up all these tracks!

Are you bringing kids Jonno?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkChayse may be coming, but willow is deff out

And Sprok well played mate. I am pretty much banned from Licola now ;)

Here is a pretty fresh vid of what to expect.

https://youtu.be/XNL8VlzI8cw

https://youtu.be/pZnIoITyU2s

https://youtu.be/KSRwi-fyyQk

[Winnie]

I will have my big tyres on Winnie. You can use my 33" middies if you want.


I also checked the weather and it looks like things could get interesting...
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http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/108.jpgCheers mate, I am gonna jump in with Rossco, really keen to see how his shocks perform cos on the road they are amazing.

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[Rossco]

Yep she's pretty wet think the winch will get a work out!

Also this is voting day so anyone going need to get that sorted, will do it in the week sometime. . .

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[MB]

Hold onto your hats Folks, @Wossco’s skills and local work knowledge might surprise/help all [emoji106][emoji106]


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[AB]

I’m going to have to pull out gents damn it!!!

Mias best friends birthday and I can’t take the kids with me on this type of trip and nowhere to take them unfortunately.

Absolutely guttered gents but I really have no choice unfortunately!!!!!


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[Rossco]

Bugger mate that sux . .

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[MudRunnerTD]

I’m going to have to pull out gents damn it!!!

Mias best friends birthday and I can’t take the kids with me on this type of trip and nowhere to take them unfortunately.

Absolutely guttered gents but I really have no choice unfortunately!!!!!


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Damn AB!!! It is Amelia's Birthday... Party and all!! Naomi is going solo. Love the Wench. Amelia has been amazing about it.

There has got to be a way bro.

[AB]

Damn AB!!! It is Amelia's Birthday... Party and all!! Naomi is going solo. Love the Wench. Amelia has been amazing about it.

There has got to be a way bro.

The joys of being solo mate, I know it’s a real downer to be honest, it’s been a while hitting harder tracks and I was super pumped!!!

Still trying to conjure up ideas but it’s not looking good, both sides of family are not available so I’m screwed really!


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[MudRunnerTD]

The joys of being solo mate, I know it’s a real downer to be honest, it’s been a while hitting harder tracks and I was super pumped!!!

Still trying to conjure up ideas but it’s not looking good, both sides of family are not available so I’m screwed really!


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Check the Chat mate. Sars has offered to help bud. We got ya mate. Naomi would happily take the kids if she was not already running a party.

[AB]

Check the Chat mate. Sars has offered to help bud. We got ya mate. Naomi would happily take the kids if she was not already running a party.

Thanks gents, trying to organise helpers as Mia has a double whammy of things to go to on Saturday so lets see what I can organise.

[JonnoD]

Hi all meet at BP Launching Place at 8.00am
BP
1870 Warburton Hwy, Launching Place VIC 3139
(03) 5961 5655
https://maps.app.goo.gl/miUqdCS8NJ32n54U6

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[MB]

BabyDaddy mate, all good ?


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[MB]

Baby Daddy (space) all good to go bloke ?


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[MB]

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[MudRunnerTD]

Bring it!!!

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[AB]

Big day, weather is fresh but sunny day ahead, let’s do this!!!


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[rusty_nail]

8am, not a patrol in sight. So lonely right now.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/194.jpg

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[Winnie]

8am, not a patrol in sight. So lonely right now.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/194.jpg

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkI'm at Yarra Junction, see you all very soon!

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[Baby Daddy]

Baby Daddy (space) all good to go bloke ?


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Sorry mate just seen this, no couldnt get the rig ready in time so couldnt commit to a yes.
I will have to catch you guys on the next one.
We are heading up there on the 25th so have to try and cstch you guys on the next one...

Enjoy stay safe

[rusty_nail]

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[PeeBee]

Looks a little slippery gents!! Good to see those winches being used also instead of simply weighing down the front of the vehicles. How chomped up was it - as bad as the vid's supplied by Big daddy or somewhere near the Adventure Club 4x4 vids put up by someone else?

[Baby Daddy]

Yeah ellis isnt really forgiving with the slightest of rain as its very slippery. Looks like you boys had fun!

[AB]

What a great day, hard track. Very slippery and we all winched a hell of a lot!!!

I only have one vid of myself breaking a cv most likely but wow what a cracker of a day gents!!

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[Winnie]

I had an absolutely awesome day! I got bugger all photos, they are all on Rossco's camera!
Wicked day and some exceptional driving, reckon I did more exercise today than I have in weeks... Hahaha

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[JonnoD]

What an epic day gents. Thanks for coming out, we have so many more camp fire stories now. Hahahahttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/202.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/203.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/204.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/205.jpg

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[MB]

Thanks Johnno, was a great day agreed, well done mate!
Quick small photo dump here as most of us Navi’s spent the day hauling rope and hugging trees, absolutely stuffed we all are, drivers too :-) !
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[MudRunnerTD]

Just drive it!!!!!

Awesome day!!!!

[rusty_nail]

Just drive it!!!!!

Awesome day!!!!U made it home ok mate?

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[MudRunnerTD]

U made it home ok mate?

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All good cheers mate. Meant to message but walked into a full house of 8yo sleepover birthday lol

[Rossco]

What a fun day, had an absoulte ball . . .

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Time to air down and get into it and for Toyota drivers put in the front drive shaft lol. .

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Track was much more chopped up since last time we were up there the bottom section is usually a brezze but a few obstacles a bit lower now.

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Not sure who took this (think Winnie) but great pic

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[Rossco]

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The first step usually driveable in the dry but pretty greasy and much steeper now

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[Baby Daddy]

Hey fellas out of curiosity did you guys see any of the boys in blue there yesterday? Had a mate tell me that his mate was at ellis yesterdayband cops were handing defects out like candy.

I wonder if my mate is friends with someone here in this group or he was with another group?

Quick update on my rig.
The rear diff noise was getting pretty bad so decided to strip it down last night. Fair to say she was gone78562

[Rossco]

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[Baby Daddy]

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We removed the 4:6 diff gears amd installed a 3:9 set for now.

Will be removing the lockers from.the 4:6 diff gears and installing them i 4:1s so i can utilise the car on the street amd strip better. The 4:6s were good off road but on the street amd strip ri run outta gears quickly on road tyres...

We are now gunna run 4:1s with a crawler gears in transfer for off road so i got the best of both worlds.
The only time i will notice it a little sluggish will be with the 37s heading t amd from bush but i never thrash it with big tyres on.

Hoping to see you guys on the next one

[Winnie]

Hey fellas out of curiosity did you guys see any of the boys in blue there yesterday? Had a mate tell me that his mate was at ellis yesterdayband cops were handing defects out like candy.

Sure did.... ask @AB

[Rossco]

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CV snapper step . . Good line at the start just the next little hollow a doozey. .

[Rossco]

One of many rock gardens. This one had a few options, Daz and me manged to dive up the middle and cross over made for a fun drive!

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[Rossco]

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Chose the main track although was a winchathon on this section on 35s. Daz drove it no probs . .

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Poped a bead in a tricky spot, had to pull sideways out of the rut and jack it. Have to say exhaust jacks are wicked.

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More winching, the HighMount certainly got a work out as did all of them and all worked flawlessly for hours on end, love em. .

[Rossco]

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Rock garden near the top . .

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Last step up was pretty greasy. .

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3.4 K's in total from the top to bottom, started around 9.00 and made it up around 12.30 I think for lunch, quicker to walk but great fun was awesome cheers Jono.

[JonnoD]

Awesome pics Rosco. I managed to turn my massive ding in to a ripple in my rear 1/4. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/218.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/219.jpg

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[MudRunnerTD]

Hey fellas out of curiosity did you guys see any of the boys in blue there yesterday? Had a mate tell me that his mate was at ellis yesterdayband cops were handing defects out like candy.

I wonder if my mate is friends with someone here in this group or he was with another group?


Yeah they where about. There was a second group behind us on the track from Geelong. They got pulled up at the bottom of the hill out of Ellis and all got hammered. I knew a few of them. They did not fare well. 6 out of 7 went home with a yellow sticker.!!!! The 7th turned Left instead of right! ;)

[PeeBee]

On public forums its kinda' asking for trouble advertising events like this - I know the coppers regularly monitor special interest groups to plan targeted sweeps. I know, you shouldn't have to keep everything under wraps, but its easy picking for sure and these challenging tracks are sure to attract the attention of our infringement mad protectors looking for vehicles that are built beyond manufacturers specs.

[rusty_nail]

On public forums its kinda' asking for trouble advertising events like this - I know the coppers regularly monitor special interest groups to plan targeted sweeps. I know, you shouldn't have to keep everything under wraps, but its easy picking for sure and these challenging tracks are sure to attract the attention of our infringement mad protectors looking for vehicles that are built beyond manufacturers specs.

to be fair phil, the other group we shared the track with, drove like absolute dipsticks. they were the target market for the boys in blue. the people in our group were respecatble to the track, didnt drive like idiots, didnt drink and drive, and as best as could be respected that track. i cant say the same for the other crew.

[Rossco]

Yeah they were a bit loose too say the least and certainly part of the reason 4wds get a bad name. However the law is the law and you can't argue with that at the end if the day, however a little common sense and decency does go a long way. Just unfortunate we live in such a nanny state / country but we're still pretty lucky, however due to a certain few there's probably good reason for it. .

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[PeeBee]

I agree with you both, its a bloody pain and simply forces people 'underground' or fearful of sharing the passion.

[AB]

Phil that was discussed about these types of trips put up on social media and lets just say it has been noted.

Dodged a huge bullet is all we can say.

[Baby Daddy]

The joys of owning a modified or capable 4wd.
Though mines engineered they would of got me for 37s no mudlfaps and whatever else they decided to find. Which is why i drive around on stockies in melbourne on its daily commute.

If any of you got done ihope its not too painful amd i lool forward to catching you all on the next one

[MB]

Being Navi in the lead truck up top within our front crew did spend all of the late morning outside running the winch after an unfortunate CV pop. All I could hear outside way down below for hours was what my nuffy mechanical experience initially thought was a .410 shotty going off every 5-10 minutes. Was educated around lunchtime that serious boost dumping was the source. Many neighbouring farms/houses below Ellis track may or may not have landline phoned up the Blue Husqvarna’s? Was a beautiful sunny Saturday so well could have been planned in advance too and or too much online chatter with specifics also?


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[rusty_nail]

finally got to uploading some vids. enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma373pzRMiI&feature=youtu.be


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1prjBWH3g&feature=youtu.be

ill post as they upload.

[rusty_nail]

Here's a couple more

https://youtu.be/oJp7LnqcRyI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJp7LnqcRyI&feature=youtu.be

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zTvInEwt4&feature=youtu.be

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awEX5FsWFKs&feature=youtu.be

There's a few more in my channel but it's just so many links to share

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[Rossco]

Need to stitch them altogether Nicko. .

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[rusty_nail]

Need to stitch them altogether Nicko. .

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkI'll make some time soon lol

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[rusty_nail]

Google did some automatically for me from my phone vids lol

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[rusty_nail]

Animation from Google too

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[Rossco]

Google did some automatically for me from my phone vids lol

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hA3CB2E4hGHFRau1A

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkAwesome, that was pretty much the soundtrack for the day too [emoji6]

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[rusty_nail]

Awesome, that was pretty much the soundtrack for the day too [emoji6]

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkHaha indeed, I was sure I could heat mb humming it as he huffed and puffed andys winch rope up the hill

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[MudRunnerTD]

I have embedded all your videos Nicko so they play on our page rather than send us to Youtube. Some great footage there. It seems that they are all slightly out of time and running at about X1.2 speed or so. a little odd? is that just the camera do you think? or the way they have been compressed on upload?

[rusty_nail]

I have embedded all your videos Nicko so they play on our page rather than send us to Youtube. Some great footage there. It seems that they are all slightly out of time and running at about X1.2 speed or so. a little odd? is that just the camera do you think? or the way they have been compressed on upload?Thanks dazz I just haven't had time to deal with this I'll look into it soon bud

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[MB]

Haha indeed, I was sure I could heat mb humming it as he huffed and puffed andys winch rope up the hill

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Posted elsewhere as a warning here folks, watch out for them big eight legged hitchhikers on your trunk protectors.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/771ce9c870b2a3774c36ba4f279b325b.jpg
Damn thing was only an itchy back nip from last Saturday gone, now just becoming plain annoying, good old Ellis Huntsman’s [emoji23]
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190524/e3e4fa68351c81f8857c81186a2d91c5.jpg


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[PeeBee]

WOW, big spider bite. Mate of mine ended up in hospital with blood poisoning after getting a leech attach to him in the bush - just can't be too careful.

[Hodge]

Posted elsewhere as a warning here folks, watch out for them big eight legged hitchhikers on your trunk protectors.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/318.jpg
Damn thing was only an itchy back nip from last Saturday gone, now just becoming plain annoying, good old Ellis Huntsman’s [emoji23]
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/05/319.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSure it's a hunty MB .?
Might pay to get it checked mate.

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[MB]

All good thanks mate, quack ok’d it on Monday. Can’t say the same for the spider though, don’t believe they have livers?


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[Avo]

Good saturday morning read,great write up,enjoyed the pics aswell,cheers

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[Sprock]

That looks like a mad trip 🤙🏻 HAHAHAHHAHA MB - don’t believe they have livers hahaha