diesel treatments????

[hekarewe]

i am sure this has already been asked on here before but here we go again

sould we use diesel treatments on the 3lt engines to clean injectors or not and is so which one one????

(cant half tell i am still a new uneducated patrol owner hey!!!)

[HippoNZ]

Hi Mate
I run the TD42 so who knows it may be different but I like to add some injector cleaner every month or two or when I'm about to head out on a trip somewhere, I do so because I like to keep things clean and it also helps on performance and fuel economy in the long run. So I'd say yes.

[big_fletch]

I have a 3.0 and a use diesel treatment every couple of weeks and seems to have made it run cleaner and smoother.
I use 'diesel power' brand

[GUtsy ute]

Chemtech is another good one to use also.

[hekarewe]

right thanks for that guys will have to invest in some asap as have not used any since buying the wagon

[Mrowka]

I zap my TD42 with some two-stroke when I fill up. Not sure if that counts as a "diesel treatment" or not, but that is all I use so far.

[hekarewe]

I zap my TD42 with some two-stroke when I fill up. Not sure if that counts as a "diesel treatment" or not, but that is all I use so far.

i dont think thats such a good idea,,,,,,, adding petrol/oil. i know in the past with very old diesels ie the old nocker commors and old GM 671/871 old boys used to add petrol to make them get up go but long term i think it used to cause pitting of the cam and other undue wear. brings to mind an old boy who i knew some 25 odd years ago who ran an old nocker commor on the new england ran the petrol to the piont that when he was under load and going hard he would have a 6 inch flame out the exhaust and the pipe would be glowing in the dark,,,,,,,, aaahhh the good old days!!

[macca86]

I am yet to try the t2 oil in my diesel but some people on here swear by it makes for a smoother quieter ride as it replaces the lubricants that modern low sulfur diesel has had removed. give it a try and if you think it makes no difference then stop but if it helps then why not 2 stroke id designed to burn off anyway. I wouldn't use it in a petrol motor though

[YNOT]

i dont think thats such a good idea,,,,,,, adding petrol/oil. i know in the past with very old diesels ie the old nocker commors and old GM 671/871 old boys used to add petrol to make them get up go but long term i think it used to cause pitting of the cam and other undue wear. brings to mind an old boy who i knew some 25 odd years ago who ran an old nocker commor on the new england ran the petrol to the piont that when he was under load and going hard he would have a 6 inch flame out the exhaust and the pipe would be glowing in the dark,,,,,,,, aaahhh the good old days!!

I think Mrowka was actually meaning 2 stroke oil not premixed 2 stroke fuel.

Speaking of putting petrol into a diesel which I did a few weeks ago by accident, the "check engine" light in the van came on yesterday?

Tony

[Mrowka]

YNOT is correct. I add two-stroke oil, not fuel.

No flames shoot out of my tailpipe, no visible smoke, either. Also, my Patrol has a TD42 engine, and I honestly do not know whether two-stroke oil is a good idea for a newer diesel engine or not. Buyer beware and all that.

[G-ForceCrew]

Hi mate

Mines a TD42. Adding a"diesel treatment" will stop diesel bug from growing in your tank. Its a really good idea it your rig is not a daily runner to.

Regards

Kel

[Harry]

I use this stuff called Clean Power - super concentrate fuel treatment. This stuff works like a charm. Since using this along with there flushing oil concentrate my truck no longer blows black smoke and seems to run smoother. I got it from cost effective maintenance, can't remember the price but will be using this stuff again.

[robbo0001]

A reasonably old thread...however I am going to be doing the CEM "oil flush" in next few days, have already added the fuel aditive to 120 litres of diesel.
Vehicle is currently at 7000km from last service according to log book, and producing smoke on hard acceleration (I didnt know, it was pointed out to me....I am used to smoky diesels courtesy of work)
Always a bit sceptical about additives, however I will be interested to see any results.
Will be doing a hot drop of current oil, half hour run of cheap oil and additive with original filter, then loading up with Nulon 15W-40 diesel oil and new filter
Will use this service as a baseline for any future engine maintenence, as I am unsure of the service history of this vehicle.

[Ben-e-boy]

A reasonably old thread...however I am going to be doing the CEM "oil flush" in next few days, have already added the fuel aditive to 120 litres of diesel.
Vehicle is currently at 7000km from last service according to log book, and producing smoke on hard acceleration (I didnt know, it was pointed out to me....I am used to smoky diesels courtesy of work)
Always a bit sceptical about additives, however I will be interested to see any results.
Will be doing a hot drop of current oil, half hour run of cheap oil and additive with original filter, then loading up with Nulon 15W-40 diesel oil and new filter
Will use this service as a baseline for any future engine maintenence, as I am unsure of the service history of this vehicle.

Most engine flushes are designed for well maintained engines only. the nulon engine flush states this clearly. If there are sludge deposits in your engine the additive will pick it up and take it through your motor. be careful.

[robbo0001]

Well, there didn't appear to be excessive oil volume on dropping the sump.
I didn't manage to measure the oil output, but could strain it it. No big release of oil buid up or gunk. This always appeared to be a very well maintained vehicle, the primary reason we purchased it.
Diff, transfer and gearbox oils were in good state.
Any "placebo" effect could purely be down to new oil everywhere, and new filters.
The new engine oil, as expected, is already black.
I still have enough of the oil concentrate for many more services, so will add it to old oil prior to dropping it. Still have 110 litre of diesel to burn through, with the diesel additive. No apparent change in driveability.

Heading to Mt Mee or Glasshouse with my kids tomorrow:clapping: any adverse effect should be noticeable pretty quick.:wink:

[hutchy84]

Hey mate check this one here out this is really good and recomended by a few people going to do mine at the next service

Also Rio Tinto use this in there mine vehicles


http://www.costeffective.com.au/show_product.php?ItemId=29

[robbo0001]

Thats exactly what I used mate :smiley_thumbs_up:

[canuck]

I like the Lubro Moly Diesel Purge. It is a very high quality product. The proper way to use it is direct from a glass jar. Here is a good link with instructions: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=87948

[WhiteGU]

I have used CEM treatment for diesels twice - once on my son's old H2 which had 350,000 or so when he got it, and again the other day on a friend's 3.0DI Patrol, which had a replacement engine fitted, mileage unknown.

The old Toymota dropped about 12 litres out of the 10 litre sump and the 3.0 dropped 10 litres from 8.5. Lots of sludge in both cases.

Both engines were very noticeably better afterwards - quieter, nore power, and less fuel. The 3.0 was unnervingly noisy to my ears (they aren't up to speed on Nissan Detonation.......) but sounds much better now.

I also used the "maintenance" dose of CEM in the petrol Jackaroo at 100,000 and again at 130,000. There was no sludge at all (as expected) but the colour of the dropped oil was noticeably darker. Made no difference to the fuel economy of the 3.5, though.......

For fuel you can use Fuel Doctors or Chemteck or any of the others mentioned. The primary aim is to kill fungii and disperse water. Adding Castrol 2T oil at 200:1 will not harm the engine, and will be a help if you happen to get a batch of low sulphur diesel with insufficient lubricants. This can easily happen due to various reasons including deliberate dilution with cheaper products with low lubricity.

We used to race karts, and in the Rotax Max we ran 50:1 mix and revved all day to 14,500. The amound of condensed oil when you looked inside a cold engine was incredible - we never tested it but we were confident we could have run 80:1 without seizing. So adding 2T to diesel at 200:1 will provide considerable lubrication to all moving parts inside the fuel system, and will burn away easily along with the diesel.

[pominozjohn]

Someone suggested putting metho in the tank to reduce the issues with water & bacteria. Anyone hear of this and if it is a good idea?

[WhiteGU]

Someone suggested putting metho in the tank to reduce the issues with water & bacteria. Anyone hear of this and if it is a good idea?

Yeah, I tried it on the cape trip with my Jackaroo petrol.

The metho didn't absorb the water in the fuel, as evidenced by bein able to drain water out of the bottom of the tank after treatment.

What it did do, was create a gelatinous goo in the tank which blocked the gauze fuel filter on the in-tank pump, and proceeded to clog the entire fuel system. I eventually had to drop the tank, clean all the injector lines and fuel lines, and fuel filter.

I would advise against using metho, and use fuel doctors instead. Look it up, it's brilliant at mixing up all the water and getting rid of it.

[Maxhead]

Someone suggested putting metho in the tank to reduce the issues with water & bacteria. Anyone hear of this and if it is a good idea?

I would use chem-tech to kill all the algae and bacteria

[chucky]

I use chemtech deisel power in my td 42 every time i fuel up 1 mil to a litre .