finally done it - broke my TD

[Bigcol]

well, I have finally done it, broke my TD - in an unusual way as well...........
sit back, get comfy, this is a long tail of stupidity and arrogance

I thought I had an oil leak..... possibly the rear main, as there was a nice little black oil puddle under my car, that was slowly growing over time

in Feb / March this year, I developed a problem while driving home on Tonkin Hwy (here in Perth) nice hot day, driving (as usual, like a Ferrari....) took off from the lights at Kelvin rd like a bat out of hell, then noticed in the corner of my eye, a lot of bad bad black smoke, I thought it was the clown next to me, until I started to hear a funny squealing noise, and realised it was ME pumping out the smoke........ bugga
it was over 45*, about 4.00pm in the arvo on Tonkin at that time
anyway, so I pulled over, and near on shat myself when I lifted the bonnet.......oil everywhere.........
shit...........
so I let her cool down a little, then put a litre of oil in her (all I had at the time.....) I knew she was leaking oil, I opened the bonnet, and found oil all over the place, so I thought I had done something bad...... so I thought a litre (all I had) would not go astray in helping it to get another 20kms home

so I waited until I could touch the rocker cover without burning my hand - righto, time to try it and see.......
very tenderly started her up - ok
moved off slowly (about 4.30pm by now, and traffic north was a lot less, at the moment)
1st gear.... ok
2nd gear .... ok
3rd gear ....ok (maybe she is fine now)
4th gear (90kms/h) faaaaaark whats that noise and smoke
pull over switch off and stress even more.....
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

ok, 10mins later, try again
all ok, 1st gear
all ok 2nd gear
all ok 3rd gear
get into 4th, keep it under 90km/h, all ok
no problems, I'll do 85 in a 100 zone to get home.........

slow slow drive home
get home, have a cuppa, and start stressing even more - what have I done, just what damage have I done............

anyway, Pooie cools down, I de-stress a little, and head to a mates house for advice
we tried everything, and was only when the temp got to 100* and doing over 90 did it squeal and start belching smoke, and also running like it was on cylinders as well

best thought we could come up with, as by now we had checked the dip stick (what a radical idea....) and found she was over full of oil...........
eh? tis leaking, and I have a shyte load all over the engine, and its OVER FULL?

worst case - o ring on front of pump leaking diesel into the sump
but the oil does not smell like diesel...........?
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark

get her home and park her up, till I can think of whats happened........
a couple of months later (funds are available) drop the oil and re-fill her........

10.6L for a TD42 you say............?
try 17.5L
faaaaaaaaaark

new filters, new oil, see what happens.......

drives fine
well I'll be buggered, dodged a bullet there
anyway, I've used her a couple of times, off road (mildly.... for me anyway) and even towed my 2.5T van a couple of time........
all A OK

anyway, a couple of weeks ago (maybe about a month or 2) I was towing my Van up Greenmount Hill, and thought I had the handbrake on, or the one on the Van, so I stop and make sure
nope, but she feels sluggish and no power.,, hmmmm
get to the lights at Mundaring, and having a quick look around I notice some poor bugga has a car blowing smoke everywhere
took off from the lights, and FAAAARK its ME blowing the smoke........
pull over, un hitch the Van, slow creep home, and grab the other car............

spend a month looking at Pooie, and thinking, what the ferk have I done now

she is....
running on 5.5 cylinders
she is blowing smoke out the exhaust
she is puffing (like a steam train) out of the filler cap

time to strip her down and re-build her I think

[Clunk]

Ahhh buggah mate, that's not good to read bud....

[Bigcol]

I should add....

I did think about a drive in - drive out engine re-build, but no-one is interested unless they get to spend $15000 of my money on shit that dont need doing, new turbo, new intercooler, new exhaust, etc

I did think about buying another Patrol, and swapping the motor - but they want top dollar for good engines, or run the risk of a 500K motor driven by a P plater and flogged to death already
and also the thought of buying a nice GQ, and stealing the motor, then flogging off the rest, just dont sit right with me........

soooooooooo

and hints, tips, tricks I should know..........?

[Stropp]

Bugger Col, that’s not good at all ☹️

[Hodge]

That no good mate.

So, you think all that excess oil you had in there may have start of the end ??

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[GQtdauto]

Been looking for motors for the brother in law and there seems to be heaps around Brisbane , you just have to put up with the crap on faceache .

[Bigcol]

yeah, Hodge, at first I thought maybe I had hydraulic'd her, then I realised that the sump gasket would have given way a long time before internal damage

at least I thought so
I wont know for sure until after Chrissy, when I start to strip her down.......

I am thinking I may have put too much pressure on the rings, with the excess oil, and they finally let go

[Cuppa]

Bollocks I hate tales of woe like this, reminds me that such things could also happen to me.
I’m confused as to what the current oil situation is in your motor Col, is it still over full?If so dropping a load out back to the correct level & then a gentle drive around until it stops smoking (hopefully) couldn’t hurt could it?

[4bye4]

Not good Col but you will rebound. There hav been a couple of trucks available here recently, but you just missed out I think. You should have got a 3 litre mate like mine. It still would have blown but you yould have been expecting it. :devilred:

[Bigcol]

well, after she sat for about 3 months Cuppa, thats when I drained the oil, and cleaned out the oil filter holder, and found out just how much oil I had in her

I let her sit for another couple of weeks (to work up the courage to re-fill and start her)
when I did, it was like nothing had happened at all, drove beautifully, slightly noisier (but that could have been because the stereo was now always turned off)
did a trip up to Julimah forrest to cane it, to see if and thing could / would go wrong - nope, all good
did a trip from where I live, up Greenmount hill to Brookton (via York) no problemo's
did some mild off road, again no problems
drove her a couple of times to work (150kms round trip) no problemo's

hooked her up to the van to go again to Brookton via York - bugga, she was cactii, real no power going up Greenmount (2nd gear sometimes......little old ladies in their honda's were overtaking me at 40km/h...)
she started to get to 100* by the time I got to Mundaring lights, thats when she started to blow smoke, and rattle like a bastard
so I thought, instead of killing her any more, I un-hitched the van, and went home for my Hunggy to keep going with the trip
only runs on about 5 cyl, belching smoke out of the breather like a steam train, chugg chugg chugg.

[Woof]

Bloody hell mate that sucks, has Mike got any ideas?

[Bigcol]

Bloody hell mate that sucks, has Mike got any ideas?

bin it was the first suggestion

buy a triton was the second


hahahahahahahaha

[BigRAWesty]

Ok serious note here.
Is it turbo'd?
If so check the turbo to intake pipe for a lot of oil.
You may have simply done a seal and flowing oil into the engine.

Wost case cracked piston, bore etc.

Either way get onto it before you hydraulic it and punch the rod out the block...

[Bigcol]

I am hoping against hope that the bores are all ok......... just shot rings etc

if the bores are cactii, dunno what to do then

but I will wait until I get off my fat bum after Xmas, and start stripping it down, have engine stand & crane available for when I go to pull it out, just need to clean the car port more for more room to move

[Woof]

bin it was the first suggestion

buy a triton was the second


hahahahahahahaha

Yep that's Mike, always helpful hahahahaha

[mudnut]

Try this before you get the engine full monty. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9K0UFdEn_M

[Bigcol]

see the bit at 3.16, where it is spraying the crap out of the injector holes.....
thats what mine is doing when you take the rocker cover cap off................ while its running

chugg chugg chugg

[mudnut]

I'm hoping for your sake that it is stuck rings, so there is just massive blow past the cylinders. But having the oil way to full would be like the bottom of the pistons smashing into concrete on each down stroke. OUCH!!