Whats the difference between Snake Racing and Superior Engineering opinions ?

[First Pooy]

I have been compering the two brands and I have received conflicting opinions whats your thoughts?

[mudski]

what parts are you looking at?

[MB]

Absolutely love my GU ‘Superior’ ute coily steel plate brace, has served me very heavy well!
Unsure of your specific question here FP mate?


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[MudRunnerTD]

Both make quality Products although Superior has gone a little Production Run quality. Snake you will pay a premium for but both are very good. I dont think Superior use factory bushes regardless of what they write on the web site, their bushes are sh1t.

Really will come down to the specific product you are chasing mate.

[MB]

A little off track, possibly relevant? In regards ‘all’ industries rubber compounds I believe comes down to exclusivity contracts. Mobs like ‘Rosta’ in our specific game locked down Euro forests years ago and still cannot be beaten on synthetic substitutes I believe.



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[Ben-e-boy]

I have alot of Superior gear. Granted, when I bought most of mine their products were almost made to order as the business was very small. I had a bad customer service issue snake and have never been back since.
I regularly read about flogged out bushes with superior gear. Most of comment based on little understanding of why. Just purely blaming the bush quality and disregarding anything else.
I've flogged out a good few bushes (OEM, aftermarket it doesnt matter) in my ute over the years mainly the drivers side diff end radius arm bushes. Why, because I have/had alot of travel. I'm pushing the factory configuration well past what the Nissan engineers designed it to do. The front end on a Patrol doesn't flex because of the amount of separation between the bushes at the diff end. The bushes will be forced to their workable limit quicker than a toyota or land/Range rover, which have less separation and more flex like for like. People keep pushing the extremities of the factory configuration and get upset when stuff fails

[First Pooy]

I am looking at a 3 or 4 inch lift and and I am just trying to balance quality compared to budget, roadsafe products seem to be good but I have only heard of poeple useing them in panhards,draglinks stuff like that, but the have stock for nearly everything else, them some say tuff dog lift components are good some say they are rubbish so I was just looking at snake racing and superior to see which is the best cor me or should I mix my components and not stick to the one brand

[MudRunnerTD]

My GQ is Superior everything.. all good kit. All my GUIV is Superior too. I have a couple of bits of Roadsafe and cant fault it either.

[mudski]

If money is limiting your decisions, just buy the best you can afford now and then, as money permits, upgrade the lesser quality parts.
I remember when I did my 4inch lift, I made up a spreadsheet with my total $$$ I was to spend and just made up various kits and then decided on what was going to be the best for me.


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[First Pooy]

I got offered a 3 inch lift kit for $2650 3 inch Ride Pro springs and 4 inch shocks, Tuff dog front and rear panhards, superior drop box and extended brake lines,I can not remember if there were extended link pins in there as well, I only need them fir tge back

[mudski]

I got offered a 3 inch lift kit for $2650 3 inch Ride Pro springs and 4 inch shocks, Tuff dog front and rear panhards, superior drop box and extended brake lines,I can not remember if there were extended link pins in there as well, I only need them fir tge back

If it were me, I would go 4inch. Theres bugger all from 2-3, only anything above two is illegal and should be engineered to make it legal. That kit has drop boxes and adjustable panhards, so you might aswell go 4. But thats my opinion. But you will need an adjustable drag link.
If not, stick with a decent two inch kit and it will be fine. It will fit 33's under it easily.

[First Pooy]

It will be a 4 inch system eventually I have a RTT so I was worried about C of G so to keep it more balanced of was looking at a 3 inch lift with a 1 inch body lift and I already have my adjustable drag link on

[MB]

Only my opinion FP mate but do worry now for your safety with the newfound knowledge above of your Roof Top Tent up there too.
Most of our local crew here near the mountains only run 2” lifts, I think only one bloke has a 1” body lift beyond the rest and we all have relatively safe C of G adventures. More than enough downwards travel in our suspensions to attack some pretty gnarly rutted tracks on naughty 35’s mate!

EDIT: Our BFG Km2’s ever so slightly can just scrub the front guards at full lock 45 degree hairpin descents, maybe more severe on something wild like SuperSwamper massive lugs etc...

EDIT#2 :-) : The GU blokes have the advantage of wider axles (better CofG) and also larger stock guard areas. The GQ blokes are still just ok on front ends with 2” only lift although do have to modify rear wagon guards slightly for 35’s on 2” lifts.

Is your beast a GU or GQ mate, couldn’t seem to find above written, although is getting late here :-) !


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[mudski]

It will be a 4 inch system eventually I have a RTT so I was worried about C of G so to keep it more balanced of was looking at a 3 inch lift with a 1 inch body lift and I already have my adjustable drag link on

you have a GQ yeah?

[First Pooy]

Yes it is a Gq

[mudski]

Yes it is a Gq

Roger! Makes sense for the body lift. But thats a lot of work doing a body lift isn't it? I would have thought its easier just to add the extra inch to the springs since your doing these anyway.

[First Pooy]

Yes you are right about the extra inch it is easier but because of my RTT it changes the C of G so by useing the body lift instead it keeps my C of G lower to the ground and by only lifting it by an inch it isn't to bad just need to make new brackets for the front and rear bar and modify the fan shroud aand of course longet brake lines that is it anything higher gets in to more problems

[the evil twin]

Whats the difference between Snake Racing and Superior Engineering?

Snake Racing - is emptying a bag full of snakes in the middle of a circle and first to cross the circumference wins (usually it is the snake handler).

Superior Engineering - is yet another one of the many advantages of owning a Patrol over a Land Cruiser.

(I know... I know... but posting idiot comments is what I am paid to do around here)