Hand Throttle

[Mc4by]

Hi guys and gals.
I was speaking to an old Patrol owner and he asked me if I had a 'hand throttle' as they made hill climbs and descents much smoother.
I had no idea what he was talking about.
Any one know what he was on about?

[garett]

yeah i got one but i think its meant to warm up the engine in cold weather

[Winnie]

Hi guys and gals.
I was speaking to an old Patrol owner and he asked me if I had a 'hand throttle' as they made hill climbs and descents much smoother.
I had no idea what he was talking about.
Any one know what he was on about?I haven't got a pic but on a gq it is a little knob that you pull and twist to lock.
I use it when going up very rocky climbs, because your foot is not bouncing around on the accelerator pedal it is a much smoother climb.

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[the evil twin]

yeah i got one but i think its meant to warm up the engine in cold weather

Nah mate... Back in the day all or almost all Landies, Tojos and Patrols had them and the purpose originally was for use with PTO equipment.
Farmer Joe also found them handy for use as well sama sama the hand throttle on his Tractor.

[nipagu7]

the more modern cars have a switch which raises the rpm to about 1300 , it is basically a fast idle switch to warm the motor up faster in cold weather . older cars had a leaver ( landrover , i think ) or a push/pull or twist knob to raise the rpm to basically whatever you want . i had an old hilux years ago that had a twist knob type , my gu has the fast idle switch . i would much preferr the twist knob as you could easily adjust the rpm faster or slower on the go .

[MB]

Have never been able to use the twist throttle lock on any of my GU’s as they’ve always been missing the knob when SH purchased. Does make you wonder of their GU specific fixing methods. Had an old mate with a 1981 Hilux that foolishly wound his up for cruise control on the Newell Hwy and nearly killed himself when the backing nut came loose to off throttle on a corner. My old FJ’s back then had a better choke style cable that you could easily punch in on gnarly tracks when finished climbing.


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[AB]

Just don't use it as a cruise control on freeways!

Had a mate with an old hilux who used it on the freeway and coming up to a sharp corner he unscrewed it to slow down but the knob fell off and stayed on!

He shat himself coming up to the bend so turned vehicle off but didn't leave it on accessories so the steering wheel locked up on the bend lol.

Safe to say new undies were put on after that ordeal.


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[Hodge]

the more modern cars have a switch which raises the rpm to about 1300 , it is basically a fast idle switch to warm the motor up faster in cold weather . older cars had a leaver ( landrover , i think ) or a push/pull or twist knob to raise the rpm to basically whatever you want . i had an old hilux years ago that had a twist knob type , my gu has the fast idle switch . i would much preferr the twist knob as you could easily adjust the rpm faster or slower on the go .Also the modern cars with that warm up switch fitted disengage it as soon as you press the clutch and / or put it in gear. So you can't use it as a idle up a hill or anything. My 2009 crd patrol had that. But the gu 4.2 has the twist hand throttle.

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[nipagu7]

yeah , my old hilux was an old 82 model and the knob came off but it was at standstill with the engine off . i was just winding it out to see how far it went to get an idea how much load it would give when using it , it was just a spur of the moment thing , otherwise i'd probably done it on the go . i can't remember what i did but i made sure it could'nt fall off again . i've only used the gu's idle switch for cold warm up , i don't think it would be good for much else .

[AB]

Have never been able to use the twist throttle lock on any of my GU’s as they’ve always been missing the knob when SH purchased. Does make you wonder of their GU specific fixing methods. Had an old mate with a 1981 Hilux that foolishly wound his up for cruise control on the Newell Hwy and nearly killed himself when the backing nut came loose to off throttle on a corner. My old FJ’s back then had a better choke style cable that you could easily punch in on gnarly tracks when finished climbing.


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Ironic we had the same mate who did the same thing with the same name and same car....Strange ;)

[MB]

Same Squelch.....Radio Squeals :-)


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[MB]

......But the gu 4.2 has the twist hand throttle.

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Thanks for the memory boot there Hodgey mate! Pretty sure IIRC too our first old family GU (2002 3.0L)had that elecy warm up switch only. Other family and work GU TD42s since of same era I believe have the missing agricultural use throttle knob always and still missing I think :-)


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[drgtr]

So its good for the following?:

- Rock Climbing
- Cold morning warmup for high idle?
- Not good for cruise control lol

What else?

[garett]

So its good for the following?:

- Rock Climbing
- Cold morning warmup for high idle?
- Not good for cruise control lol

What else?

charging the wife's flat battery.

[AB]

So its good for the following?:

- Rock Climbing
- Cold morning warmup for high idle?
- Not good for cruise control lol

What else?

Personally speaking here I don't use it all!

Rock climbing, get better accessories and learn how to climb.


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[Plasnart]

So its good for the following?:

- Rock Climbing
- Cold morning warmup for high idle?
- Not good for cruise control lol

What else?

Good for nothing except one-up feeding hay from the back of the ute, which used to be (maybe still is?) common practice on farms. Plenty of cockies beeen killed this way too.

[drgtr]

lol seriously This is my first patrol and when I saw it.
I thought to myself. um why! haha.

Coming from a prado everything was automatic and auto idle under any load and condition.

I wonder would it help up a steep parking ramp if you were stuck halfway then had to move again?

[Plasnart]

lol seriously This is my first patrol and when I saw it.
I thought to myself. um why! haha.

Coming from a prado everything was automatic and auto idle under any load and condition.

I wonder would it help up a steep parking ramp if you were stuck halfway then had to move again?

Basically theyre a remnant from pre ecu vehicles. Once needed but no more.

And no to your question. Handbrake start like your driving instructor taught you.

[Avo]

Good for nothing except one-up feeding hay from the back of the ute, which used to be (maybe still is?) common practice on farms. Plenty of cockies beeen killed this way too.

its not anitque thdem farmers dont give shit up
easily

[PeeBee]

It is handy when using the PTO winch as the winch speed is relative to engine speed on the patrol, not the gear selected. Its also handy when doing a base camp battery recharge, so the alternator is pumping in more to the batteries at say 1500rpm instead of 500rpm.

[MB]

As Evil Twin mentioned above, old Rovers and their Capstan Winches also required outa cab RPM too was once also told from our old bloke similar to this IIRC: https://youtu.be/G-hYHMUncxY


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[NissanGQ4.2]

Basically theyre a remnant from pre ecu vehicles.

My ECU GQ had it

[MB]

Personally speaking here I don't use it all!

Rock climbing, get better accessories and learn how to climb.


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Agreed mate, get a 6.5NA with reduction gears and leave it on 550rpm idle for 1/2hr to catchup on ones morning stroll :-)


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[GeeYou8]

When I was installing the cruise control in the old GU2 I contemplated using the engine RPM signal instead of the tail shaft RPM, that way you could set RPM & have the safety of brake cutout. Would still work as cruise control in fourth or fifth, but could also be crawl control in low gears.
Graham

[AB]

Actually I tell a lie!

Have used it on extreme cold snow trips for early morning trying to reach operating temp whilst finishing packing up camp.