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drgtr
28th March 2018, 05:05 PM
TD42T
2003 Td42Ti
I have an oil leak where i can see is between the flange on the oil return under the turbo.
I have replaced the gasket 3 times. Genuine Nissan one from Patrol Parts.
I have used sealant.
On the 3rd attempt I have even lightly sanded to make sure its flat.
After a few days drive I see oil weeping between the flange where the gasket and sealant is.
My mechanic mate has helped me too. We are at a lost.
I degrease to keep an eye on it and surely enough after a few days It seems like weeping comes from there and then runs down the metal pipe.
have checked Oil feed line and its dry as. Looked carefully underneath to make sure its not coming from top to side and running down.
Very odd.
Anyone came across this?
AB
28th March 2018, 05:30 PM
Yeah strange.
Assuming there's no scratches on turbo where the flange bolts over?
100% leaking from the oil flange to turbo not from the actual bolts of flange?
Warped flange on oil drain?
Too much oil pressure?
Assuming the bolts aren't coming loose?
Just my initial thoughts. It's happened to me but only when I had the turbo off 43 times and forgot tighten bolts up properly.
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AB
28th March 2018, 05:36 PM
Oil return pipe and hole on block is all clear and a direct path from turbo to block?
Can you please take photo showing turbo leak and photo of turbo to block pipe?
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 05:47 PM
i put the new gasket and sealant on monday. I degreased an hour ago to make sure its not old oil.
Ill take a picture so you can see the clean part when its abit darker later with a light so it looks clearer
then ill take a pic few days later of it weeping.
drgtr
28th March 2018, 06:11 PM
Yeah strange.
Assuming there's no scratches on turbo where the flange bolts over?
100% leaking from the oil flange to turbo not from the actual bolts of flange?
Warped flange on oil drain?
Too much oil pressure?
Assuming the bolts aren't coming loose?
Just my initial thoughts. It's happened to me but only when I had the turbo off 43 times and forgot tighten bolts up properly.
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Definately not blocked because when we undo. No extra oil is built up in pipe.
bolts not loose because we have to apply pressure to undo.
Im seriously wondering if warpage has occured or we are both crap at smearing sealant lol
AB
28th March 2018, 06:33 PM
Yeah you shouldn't need any sealant at all. Flange, gasket and turbo is fine.
Have you always used sealant on that?
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 06:48 PM
First time yes.
So I thought crap sealant.
Then second time non Sealant. Just the Genuine Nissan Gasket from Patrol Parts
Third time different grey sealant with the gasket from patrol parts.
Unless Patrol parts giving me fake gaskets lol
drgtr
28th March 2018, 06:49 PM
All done by my mechanic who does many turbo cars. He has checked. Oil not coming from anywhere else.
Cant be a "Patrol Thing" like the gear chatter haha.
AB
28th March 2018, 07:23 PM
Sorry mate just making sure, so each time 100% clean surfaces on both sides and no nicks or cuts on either plates?
It should be simple but if that's all good then look at warped drain or turbo or too much oil pressure and or blocked or inadequate drain building back pressure.
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 07:47 PM
Sorry mate just making sure, so each time 100% clean surfaces on both sides and no nicks or cuts on either plates?
It should be simple but if that's all good then look at warped drain or turbo or too much oil pressure and or blocked or inadequate drain building back pressure.
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Mate dont say sorry. Always appreciate your help.
I was even thinking crack on weld where tube joins flange but then i see the oil seeping between the two flanges so its higher than the weld.
AB
28th March 2018, 07:51 PM
Yep you're at the point now where you get another drain flange and ensure a clean surface on turbo 100% clean just gasket. Pain yes but at least you can eliminate a lot of ???? And go from there.
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AB
28th March 2018, 07:52 PM
Also keen for photos mate...
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 07:56 PM
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garett
28th March 2018, 07:56 PM
had this on a 3 litre. the pipe flange warped was flattened but kept warping. ended up replacing the pipe
AB
28th March 2018, 08:00 PM
Yeah strange. If I was you I would clean 100% and get a new flange. Even a straight down flange with hose to block and go from there.
Not expensive and worth a try for sure.
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 08:04 PM
Im thinking warpage too because the pipe is a soft metal. The turbo is a harder metal
cause if you look at the turbo side where the flanges join. Theres nothing to it. Drain hole. Flat surface and two bolt holes.
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 08:08 PM
Im looking on ebay I cant find that same one. Are all turbo oil return line size on the flange universal?
drgtr
28th March 2018, 08:12 PM
Say this one? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbo-Oil-Return-Line-Nissan-Skyline-RB20DET-RB25DET-w-Stock-Garrett-T3-Turbo/292340897330?hash=item4410e01632:g:Uv4AAOSwZlZaFTC H
AB
28th March 2018, 08:34 PM
What turbo do you have? Ht18?
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 08:39 PM
Yes Ht18 Turbo
drgtr
28th March 2018, 08:39 PM
This one?https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbo-Oil-Feed-Oil-Return-Drain-Line-Kit-For-For-Nissan-TD42-GU-Patrol-10AN/273097480336?hash=item3f95e0d890:g:0k4AAOSwbDFanln n
AB
28th March 2018, 09:13 PM
Nah you don't need to spend that much on a full kit. You just need a straight flange and get hose and clamps from local autobarn, supacrap or repco.
I would personally get a straight flange and it just needs to suit a 51mm bolt spacing.
Something like this but have a search on EBay and maybe measure the vertical distance from turbo to block drain to make sure there's enough distance for the hose to do a nice even curve to your block for smooth drain and minimise sharp 90 degree turn of pipe so it doesn't kink if that makes sense.
https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbo-Oil-Drain-Pipe-kit-Garrett-T3-T4-T04B-T04E-Hitachi-HT18-/301682866510
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AB
28th March 2018, 09:14 PM
Barb style oil drain flange.
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 09:16 PM
Nah you don't need to spend that much on a full kit. You just need a straight flange and get hose and clamps from local autobarn, supacrap or repco.
I would personally get a straight flange and it just needs to suit a 51mm bolt spacing.
Something like this but have a search on EBay and maybe measure the vertical distance from turbo to block drain to make sure there's enough distance for the hose to do a nice even curve to your block for smooth drain and minimise sharp 90 degree turn of pipe so it doesn't kink if that makes sense.
https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Turbo-Oil-Drain-Pipe-kit-Garrett-T3-T4-T04B-T04E-Hitachi-HT18-/301682866510
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You are too awesome.
Thankyou.
I ordered this. My mate needs a feed line. I need the drain line.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAMBA-Turbo-Oil-Feed-Return-Line-Kit-For-Nissan-Patrol-TD42-GU-w-Hitachi-HT18/401369991870?hash=item5d73840abe:g:nWUAAOSw0hRZcZB z
AB
28th March 2018, 09:18 PM
Awesome that'll do. Make sure your mate pays $100 and you pay $22 lol
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Tip12345
28th March 2018, 09:19 PM
Not to much crankcase pressure it's not breathing a bit hard ? Blocked engine breather
AB
28th March 2018, 09:22 PM
Yeah my thoughts too Tip...
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drgtr
28th March 2018, 10:16 PM
Not to much crankcase pressure it's not breathing a bit hard ? Blocked engine breather
Sorry i dont understand. Where is the engine breather? It has an oil catch can. Not much blow by.
drgtr
28th March 2018, 10:23 PM
Is it that round thing at the back of the rocker cover.
How do i clean or unblock it
Tip12345
29th March 2018, 08:31 AM
Just remove the oil cap when running and see now much pressure its blowing out
drgtr
29th March 2018, 10:12 AM
Done.
Not a single breath of pressure or minimal I cant feel.
Does that mean my engine is healthy and the breather on the rear is fine?
drgtr
29th March 2018, 11:38 AM
Awesome that'll do. Make sure your mate pays $100 and you pay $22 lol
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lol He paid for it first with PayPal. he said all good.
He is like a brother now. Not a mate :D LMAO
drgtr
29th March 2018, 08:44 PM
And it starts again haha.
Im sure its warped.
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