Recommend Cordless Impact Drill

[10G]

I'm thinking of getting a cordless impact drill for work on the Patrol.

I don't know alot about these things. A mate said you must get one at least with 5aH battery. It'll need to be capable of undoing wheel nuts, I hate them, and everything else.

Any recommendations?

[Tip12345]

I have a Panasonic one it does the job .

[10G]

You can't use your normal hand sockets with these drills can you? Don't they shatter or something?

[the evil twin]

You can't use your normal hand sockets with these drills can you? Don't they shatter or something?

Yes, I def recommend you purchase impact socket/s.

For Wheel nuts I the 12v corded style driver (and turf the sockets that come with it) as no worries about flat driver battery when it only gets used rarely.
Either way it makes changing wheels a breeze

[Hodge]

Milwaukee 1/2" rattle gun.
We put them through hell and back daily at work and never had one fail ....
We even work live with them on 22,000VAC and they still keep on rattling on .
I have one at home too and for working in the car it's very handy ! http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/5.jpg

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[MB]

Milwaukee 18V gear rocks Hodgey mate! I was previously going to set up my ute for all air tools but just carry 2 x 9.0AH 18v batteries now. Rattle Gun, Grinder, Sabre Saw for tight tracks too. Their cordless grease gun and die grinder stay at home but took the water transfer pump with a 30m hose up the Murray for kids fun camping recently. Huge range of work toys they have, addictive;-)


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[Winnie]

I'm thinking of getting a cordless impact drill for work on the Patrol.

I don't know alot about these things. A mate said you must get one at least with 5aH battery. It'll need to be capable of undoing wheel nuts, I hate them, and everything else.

Any recommendations?5ah would do a lot of wheel nuts.
I have an old Bunnings special ryobi 18V 1/2 rattle with a 2ah battery and it gets the job done no worries. I could undo all the wheel nuts on my car 5 times before it started to struggle because of not enough battery.

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[Hodge]

Milwaukee 18V gear rocks Hodgey mate! I was previously going to set up my ute for all air tools but just carry 2 x 9.0AH 18v batteries now. Rattle Gun, Grinder, Sabre Saw for tight tracks too. Their cordless grease gun and die grinder stay at home but took the water transfer pump with a 30m hose up the Murray for kids fun camping recently. Huge range of work toys they have, addictive;-)


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkVery versatile range indeed Marko!!
Of all those... The leaf blower is by far my fave.
It gets a campfire going in no time !
One of the very first things I pack every camping trip...

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[Clunk]

Ryobi One+ 3speed impact wrench, quite a handy series at a reasonable price

https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/brands/r/ryobi-one-

[Cuppa]

Very versatile range indeed Marko!!
Of all those... The leaf blower is by far my fave.
It gets a campfire going in no time !
One of the very first things I pack every camping trip...



My new favourite is the 2x18v (36v) cordless chainsaw. Will cut multiple nights worth of firewood into 18" lengths on one charge.

As to brand - whatever brand of other cordless stuff you already have.

I've got a number of Makita 18v tools & am happy with them, but if I were starting over I reckon I'd go for Milwaukee - I used a neighbours Milwaukee impact driver & it just seemed stronger/heavier duty than mine.

[Ben-e-boy]

A cordless impact driver won't undo wheel nuts, you'll need to crack them first and tension them properly by hand. That's no big deal.
My personal Milwaukee stuff used the older brushed motors and I still have 4 ah batteries and I have always ussed the impact driver for wheel nuts and whatever. The reciprcating saw I have for the garden nd some track clearing has copped an absolute hiding and still going strong.
My work Milwaukeegear is brushless and the impact driver is playing up at the moment . It just slows randomly and I am not too happy about it.
All I use is Milwaukee for work and personal use, both kits get used and used hard.

[MB]

IMO whatever brand choice make sure you get the ‘Friction Ring’ on the 1/2” drive and not the ‘Detent Pin’ as they can be an absolute prick to get sockets off them.


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[Cuppa]

A cordless impact driver won't undo wheel nuts, you'll need to crack them first and tension them properly by hand. That's no big deal.
My personal Milwaukee stuff used the older brushed motors and I still have 4 ah batteries and I have always used the impact driver for wheel nuts and whatever. The reciprcating saw I have for the garden nd some track clearing has copped an absolute hiding and still going strong.
My work Milwaukeegear is brushless and the impact driver is playing up at the moment . It just slows randomly and I am not too happy about it.
All I use is Milwaukee for work and personal use, both kits get used and used hard.

Yeah I didn't mean that the impact driver was the tool of choice for undoing wheel nuts... mine certainly wouldn't, but I guess a cordless rattle gun (impact wrench) like Hodge showed is a different kettle of fish?
Since the 18v lithium tools came out they must have revolutionised most people's work practices, they are just so good. My oldest batteries are now over 6 years old & still going strong & they've had a *lot* of use.

[MB]

This is our work beast, something like 1,000Nm of torque. http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/6.jpg It’ll easily snap 12mm 304HC stainless bolts that the boys have foolishly galled together. Word of warning, Trol wheelnuts only need something like 140Nm of torque I believe.


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[garett]

i've abused the hitachi gear at work for 3 or 4 years... nicer to use than the milwarkie stuff. and i mean abused.

[MudRunnerTD]

If all you want to do is crack a wheel nut and remove them and quick spin them back on then This little jigger will well and truly get it done! In-fact it will confidently crack a Wheel nut better than my 18v Makita Rattle gun.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Impact-Electric-Wrench-12V-Automotive-Shop-Tools-Corded-Power-Tools-for-Cars-SUV-/142550413485

That will save you $400 too!!

If you think you want something to get a bit of other stuff done then i reckon the Rattle gun is too big and heavy. i only use mine to do the heavy lifting. I'd use my impact driver way way way way way more but useless on a wheel nut.

If you have No 18v Tools then anything is better, if you happy to spend some coin then i'd buy Milwalkie next time. I have Makita now and its been great. none is Brushless but i dont really have a need these days. and cant justify starting from scratch.

I recently bought 3 x 5AH batteries for my kit as i had 3 x 3AH and they were tired and the new batteries have made a huge difference.

Good luck, have fun. Consider buying a Combo kit for the value. June is the best time to buy as the big stores have Tax Specials for tradies.

[Ben-e-boy]

Yeah I didn't mean that the impact driver was the tool of choice for undoing wheel nuts... mine certainly wouldn't, but I guess a cordless rattle gun (impact wrench) like Hodge showed is a different kettle of fish?
Since the 18v lithium tools came out they must have revolutionised most people's work practices, they are just so good. My oldest batteries are now over 6 years old & still going strong & they've had a *lot* of use.

Yes, the rattle gun is is different, it will tighten well above spec. Which ( im my opinion of coarse) can be a negative for general duty, house, automotive ect as 1 too many ugga duggas can easily give you a 2 piece bolt/stud. Construction on the other hand or with Hodge and his HV work for example Rattle guns for the win

[bazzaboy]

My 1/2 Dewalt impact driver with a 5amp battery has never let me down. All my battery tools are Dewalt.

[10G]

Hey folks thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, I'm looking for something to undo & redo up wheel nuts and also to do up nuts and bolts when I'm feeling lazy, also for undoing rusted on stuff. I don't mind using hand tools, but when I'm stuffed, I'd kill to be able to just squeeze a trigger rather than yank on a spanner.

I don't have any 18v stuff and don't do anything heavier than work on the Patrol.

What sort of power would I need to undo a Patrol wheel nut? 100Nm, 300, 325????

[10G]

If all you want to do is crack a wheel nut and remove them and quick spin them back on then This little jigger will well and truly get it done! In-fact it will confidently crack a Wheel nut better than my 18v Makita Rattle gun.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Impact-Electric-Wrench-12V-Automotive-Shop-Tools-Corded-Power-Tools-for-Cars-SUV-/142550413485



Hey that could be a bloody good way to start off. I'd ditch the sockets and get a couple of deep quality ones. I think this is what ET was talking about???

[MudRunnerTD]

Hey folks thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, I'm looking for something to undo & redo up wheel nuts and also to do up nuts and bolts when I'm feeling lazy, also for undoing rusted on stuff. I don't mind using hand tools, but when I'm stuffed, I'd kill to be able to just squeeze a trigger rather than yank on a spanner.

I don't have any 18v stuff and don't do anything heavier than work on the Patrol.

What sort of power would I need to undo a Patrol wheel nut? 100Nm, 300, 325????


Hey that could be a bloody good way to start off. I'd ditch the sockets and get a couple of deep quality ones. I think this is what ET was talking about???

Yeah they are a beast mate. The first time I pulled the trigger I thought it was a joke! Paid it no respect at all. Junk. OMFG was i wrong. BEAST.

For what you have described above I don't think you can go past it. It has cracked quite a few nuts I could not get near with ease. Cheap as chips and bloody good kit.

[MB]

Valentines Day is nearly upon us blokes. Aint no better gift than an 18v kit, to get things done around the house and garden together of course ;-)


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[Hodge]

Valentines Day is nearly upon us blokes. Aint no better gift than an 18v kit, to get things done around the house and garden together of course ;-)


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D0 divorCwe papers come in 18Voltss too Marko buddy old matee.. Thats the only thing I'll be gettinggg for Qalentinez day. ..

sorry. Im fucking piseed as a cricket..

[Winnie]

D0 divorCwe papers come in 18Voltss too Marko buddy old matee.. Thats the only thing I'll be gettinggg for Qalentinez day. ..

sorry. Im fucking piseed as a cricket..Hodgey it's a school night mate!

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[the evil twin]

Hey that could be a bloody good way to start off. I'd ditch the sockets and get a couple of deep quality ones. I think this is what ET was talking about???


Yeah they are a beast mate. The first time I pulled the trigger I thought it was a joke! Paid it no respect at all. Junk. OMFG was i wrong. BEAST.

For what you have described above I don't think you can go past it. It has cracked quite a few nuts I could not get near with ease. Cheap as chips and bloody good kit.

10G - Yeah, it is... well, one of the many variants on Ebay and not my particular one but they all seem to work as well as each other

and

MR - Yeah, they are awesome on wheel nuts eh.
I've also used it on differential gear bolt thingies that were down up to a gazillion Ft/Lbs as well.

[MB]

EDIT Add :-) :

D0 divorCwe papers come in 18Voltss too Marko buddy old matee.. Thats the only thing I'll be gettinggg for Qalentinez day. ..

sorry. Im fucking piseed as a cricket..


Why do you think blokes upgrade to 9.0AH batteries, just greedy little monsters I guess :-)


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[Hodge]

Hodgey it's a school night mate!

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Finishzed high schoool 18 years agoo Chriss mate... Nothingg to work about :)

[MB]

I'm thinking of getting a cordless impact drill for work on the Patrol.

I don't know alot about these things. A mate said you must get one at least with 5aH battery. It'll need to be capable of undoing wheel nuts, I hate them, and everything else.

Any recommendations?

How fast & simple & expensive is this beast on “Lug Nuts” lol :-)!
https://youtu.be/vesBDXCWrUw
Other “work on” your “Patrol” mentioned, say ‘drilling’ out old broken studs for ‘Easy Outs’, ‘grinding’ back rust or prepping for a weld I still honestly believe a starter cordless kit of any decent brand is a good long term investment for productivity IMHO.
As BennyBoy previously mentioned an ‘Impact driver/drill’ which comes in most kits these days will not crack a wheel nut but man they are fast and handy on them and all other Patrol bolts prior to final torque up properly I guess :-) Select a cordless brand of your choice and inform all of your loved ones that Dad no longer accepts socks & jocks each fathers day, only your tool brand ‘Skins’ to add to the growing collection :-)



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[the evil twin]

... reminds me of some of the Torque Multipliers we used in the military to hold the really important bits on the plane

[10G]

Thanks for all the replies folks.

I think I'll get one of those eBay wrenchs, I can't see how I can go wrong for the price. Later on I'll probably look at the 18v range of stuff, I don't mind a bit of gardening so that all looks like a really good idea.

Thanks again everyone.

[Winnie]

Thanks for all the replies folks.

I think I'll get one of those eBay wrenchs, I can't see how I can go wrong for the price. Later on I'll probably look at the 18v range of stuff, I don't mind a bit of gardening so that all looks like a really good idea.

Thanks again everyone.I use a Makita 18V hedge trimmer around the house and then a leaf blower to tidy up afterwards. Only have a few hedges but it does a good job. Options are endless!

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[MB]

Ryobi One+ 3speed impact wrench, quite a handy series at a reasonable price

https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/brands/r/ryobi-one-

Quickly checked em out today at Bunnings mate, very reasonable prices too I agree. Some 60+ tools in the 18v range they reckon not including the gardening bigger stuff either.
http://www.ryobi.com.au/power-tools/products/list/family/one-plus
The little $99 27Nm 3/8” ratchet wrench skin looked pretty cool too! http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/49.jpg http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/50.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/51.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/52.jpg




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[Rumcajs]

Get "Blue" professional Bosch series tools especially this kit as it has everything you will ever need either at home or in the bush.

2 piece 18v brushless 6 ah combo kit (https://www.totaltools.com.au/power-tools/116133-2-piece-18v-brushless-6-0ah-combo-kit-0615990j6y)

The 1/4 impact driver ( Impact Driver GDX18VECBB) will undo wheel nuts on Patrol (133 Nm) and bonus is that it has inner 1/4 driver with outer 3/8 drive on it.
So you can use 1/4 bits and get 3/8 drive impact sockets for it as well. Absolute gem!

They also throw in a bonus angle grinder with it so getting 3 cordless tools!

My workmate uses this thing at work and can't kill it. It will undo trucks chassis M16 bolts,

The drill is the same it just keeps going no matter what abuse.....

I only wish I knew when I was getting Milwaukee 3/8 impact gun/ratchet combo .....

Note: Don't ever rattle wheel nuts back in, especially alloy wheels.....

Regards

[MB]

They are very good too I agree mate, recently worked with some Bulgarian’s that swore by Bosch Blue daily.
Out of honest interest though, is it ok if I rattle lightly back on my wheel nuts before final torque up/check? Steelies not Alloy I run always. Cheers!


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[Plasnart]

They are very good too I agree mate, recently worked with some Bulgarian’s that swore by Bosch Blue daily.
Out of honest interest though, is it ok if I rattle lightly back on my wheel nuts before final torque up/check? Steelies not Alloy I run always. Cheers!


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FWIW I hand thread mine back on, then rattle one or two ugga duggas around the pattern, then torque the rest up around the pattern. Can't see a problem with that. I don't just ugga dugga right up like tyre shops.

[MB]

Cheers Plassy, I’ve always hand thread started and then run them up lightly but fast. Never in a circle I was tought, always incrementally opposite each shot. Finally torque up same same again. Is this correct, I hope?


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[Plasnart]

Cheers Plassy, I’ve always hand thread started and then run them up lightly but fast. Never in a circle I was tought, always incrementally opposite each shot. Finally torque up same same again. Is this correct, I hope?


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Sounds same as me. Don't think you have to be a rocket surgeon to know to fix them up as opposite as possible and to spec torque. Light spin up with impact wrench once threaded, then finish with torque wrench. I actually repeat circuit after first torque up just to make sure nothing moved.

[Plasnart]

Being a Makita slut this is my choice of impact wrench, however seeing some of these cheaper units in this thread I'm thinking why spend the $$ when it's an occasional tool? Different batteries, chargers everywhere, etc gives me the sh!ts so I'll just stick to what I trust. Japanese only though, Makita make different stuff in different countries. Cheaper Makitas of same tool are made in different countries.

[Rumcajs]

They are very good too I agree mate, recently worked with some Bulgarian’s that swore by Bosch Blue daily.
Out of honest interest though, is it ok if I rattle lightly back on my wheel nuts before final torque up/check? Steelies not Alloy I run always. Cheers!


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As long as you start by hand and then only drive them in sequentially until they touch/light torque you'll be fine. Steelies are more forgiving than alloys.

Regards.

[MB]

Bugger, going to be late for work today :-( http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/55.jpg Only 2 minutes though with this beast of a demo blade onboard:-) http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/02/56.jpg


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[10G]

Thanks for the replies guys. I reckon you'd have to go a long way to get better value than that Ryobi brand. I have a plan. I'll buy a trimmer and a blower + 2 batteries for a Christmas present for the garden. Then I can sneak in drills, saws etc etc later on.

[MudRunnerTD]

Cheers Plassy, I’ve always hand thread started and then run them up lightly but fast. Never in a circle I was tought, always incrementally opposite each shot. Finally torque up same same again. Is this correct, I hope?


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The most important part of getting the right torque on your wheel nuts is to Grease your Wheel Studs. If you have never put lube on the wheel studs then friction will give you torque settings that might not be true and could be significantly looser than expected.

I hand thread to a couple of turns then rattle on then Torque wrench to finish. Grease every time the wheel comes off though.

[10G]

The most important part of getting the right torque on your wheel nuts is to Grease your Wheel Studs. If you have never put lube on the wheel studs then friction will give you torque settings that might not be true and could be significantly looser than expected.

I hand thread to a couple of turns then rattle on then Torque wrench to finish. Grease every time the wheel comes off though.

Oh OK, grease 'em you reckon. It's always been one of those Do I or Don't I things with me. Grease 'em, you can get stuff caught in the grease in the threads, don't grease 'em they can become really crappy to spin the nuts back on by hand.

[Winnie]

Oh OK, grease 'em you reckon. It's always been one of those Do I or Don't I things with me. Grease 'em, you can get stuff caught in the grease in the threads, don't grease 'em they can become really crappy to spin the nuts back on by hand.I've only just started greasing mine and they are heaps easier to get started. Haven't had any issues with them coming loose after correctly torquing them up which was my concern.
I only use a very light smear of grease on each stud.

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[Ben-e-boy]

The most important part of getting the right torque on your wheel nuts is to Grease your Wheel Studs. If you have never put lube on the wheel studs then friction will give you torque settings that might not be true and could be significantly looser than expected.

I hand thread to a couple of turns then rattle on then Torque wrench to finish. Grease every time the wheel comes off though.

Why not anti-seize?

[MudRunnerTD]

Why not anti-seize?

Just what I have handy mate. I find anti seize a little messy too as I have that silver stuff. I will use grease from a tub or spray lithium grease as it's generally handy. It all gets the job done though.