GQ patrol crunch

[bigboss]

G'day all!
Recently hooked up some spotties to my patrol used relay fuse etc etc somehow manage to have a short to earth... (still have'nt located it) drained my battery... jump started her but still took alot for her to crank over and when it did made an awful crunching sound and blew a puff of white/grey smoke... drove it home, cheacked the battery was running 12.9 V so it charged but then went to crank her again and same problem, she took abit to turn then a loud crunching sound... Could this be related to the spotties earthing out? or any suggestion where to start or what it could possibly be?
Cheers guys!

[Sir Roofy]

could be a number of factors here ,wheres the crunching sound comming from??

[GUtsy ute]

Starter motor? Is it diesel or petrol?

[Sir Roofy]

Starter motor? Is it diesel or petrol?

that was my first thought but that would have to be a monster short out

[Yendor]

I don't think it is anything you have done while connecting the spot lights, but just incase where did you connect the wires that go to terminals 85 and 86 of the relay?

Also where did you connect the earth from the spot lights.

I would check for dirty/bad connections at the battery terminals, where the main earth connects to the body and block and also the main battery cable at the starter motor.

A good tip for this is after you have tried to start it a couple of time, feel with your hands over the battery terminals and lugs if there is a bad connect it will get real hot real quick.

It sound like the problem is with your starter motor have you driven through any deep water or mud lately?

[Finly Owner]

Really out there, but you don't have any wires or bolts near fan?

Tim

[bigboss]

Hey guys thanks for the tips, just stripped down the starter motor... shes rooted! bearing sitting behind throw out was completley missing! along with other wear just a coincidence that it happened straight after the spotties i guess... have'nt even priced one up yet what would be better? second hand/new or kit?
Cheers!

[Bigrig]

Hey guys thanks for the tips, just stripped down the starter motor... shes rooted! bearing sitting behind throw out was completley missing! along with other wear just a coincidence that it happened straight after the spotties i guess... have'nt even priced one up yet what would be better? second hand/new or kit?
Cheers!

At least you found it mate - good work. Can't help on the new v second hand question apart from opinion - I always go new for water pumps, alternators, etc - just to be sure, to be sure!!

[growler2058]

There was a thread recently about alternators I rekon regarding cheaper versions V genuine even though the gen. was dearer it was the cheaper in the long run as the cheaper ones sh1t emselves quite quickly. So i'd probably go gen nissan and pay the "price now or twice later" as they say

[Silver]

manual or auto box, and how many have you got to push it if manual :-)

[kingy]

manual or auto box, and how many have you got to push it if manual :-)

Interesting you brought this up my old man was telling me him and 5 mates at a remote mine in WA somewhere tried to push start a modern diesel Toyo ute and could not get it to start by pushing alone needed to actually jump start it. I know the guy has a GQ but looks like modern Diesel's with ECU etc cant be jump started.

So have anyone actually push started a GU 3 ltr ? or 4.2 ltr for that matter?

Soz for the hijack.

[Yendor]

Hey guys thanks for the tips, just stripped down the starter motor... shes rooted! bearing sitting behind throw out was completley missing! along with other wear just a coincidence that it happened straight after the spotties i guess... have'nt even priced one up yet what would be better? second hand/new or kit?
Cheers!

You can take it to your local auto electrician and get him to have a look/quote for repairs.

They will be able to tell you if it's a viable repair or if you would be better off getting a new unit.

There are other companies around such as Ashdown-Ingram that can supply new replacement units.

If it was me I would stay away from second hand units, I would get prices for new replacement units and then I would have a chat with an auto electrician.

Good luck with it mate.