1995 rd28t front hub socket size

[mad66]

I need a socket to remove the front hub, on ebay it says 54mm, and there is heaps for sale but the gregorrys manual says 53 mm. can anyone confirm what I need. Cheers

[mudnut]

Save yourself some money in the long run and upgrade to the gu system.

To do that use a brass punch to remove the nuts, then replace them with something like this.

https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03699?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIes5WZAGZlYANqZLYBrH Hj6giLFOiNMS_m-9DMrWFw1wJ9s1xNcn0K0aAo72EALw_wcB

And a tool like this https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03279__?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIev_dm6EhJ2fN42Hynx0 1fSYaiAPkmBLsh8afl0oMTElRTYkOwwVLz8aAiuwEALw_wcB

I wish I had known about the upgrade before I shelled out for the GQ tool and had some locking washers made for around $2 each.

[mad66]

Save yourself some money in the long run and upgrade to the gu system.

To do that use a brass punch to remove the nuts, then replace them with something like this.

https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03699?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIes5WZAGZlYANqZLYBrH Hj6giLFOiNMS_m-9DMrWFw1wJ9s1xNcn0K0aAo72EALw_wcB

And a tool like this https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03279__?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIev_dm6EhJ2fN42Hynx0 1fSYaiAPkmBLsh8afl0oMTElRTYkOwwVLz8aAiuwEALw_wcB

I wish I had known about the upgrade before I shelled out for the GQ tool and had some locking washers made for around $2 each.

Cheers mate, my mate said the same thing and so bought this kit. Btw thanks for your reply.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/112568645437

[dom14]

I need a socket to remove the front hub, on ebay it says 54mm, and there is heaps for sale but the gregorrys manual says 53 mm. can anyone confirm what I need. Cheers

It is 54mm from memory. The tool's available on fleabay for a peanut.
Where does it say 53mm in Gregory's??!!

[dom14]

Save yourself some money in the long run and upgrade to the gu system.

To do that use a brass punch to remove the nuts, then replace them with something like this.

https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03699?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIes5WZAGZlYANqZLYBrH Hj6giLFOiNMS_m-9DMrWFw1wJ9s1xNcn0K0aAo72EALw_wcB

And a tool like this https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03279__?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIev_dm6EhJ2fN42Hynx0 1fSYaiAPkmBLsh8afl0oMTElRTYkOwwVLz8aAiuwEALw_wcB

I wish I had known about the upgrade before I shelled out for the GQ tool and had some locking washers made for around $2 each.

I'm not following this Craig.
I used the 54mm socket from ebay to undo the nut & repack the bearings.
Why is it necessary for this upgrade?
What issues do you have in the long run with the stock hub nut locking system?
Mine appears to be fine since repacking years back and once a year or so checking.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Save yourself some money in the long run and upgrade to the gu system.

To do that use a brass punch to remove the nuts, then replace them with something like this.

https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03699?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIes5WZAGZlYANqZLYBrH Hj6giLFOiNMS_m-9DMrWFw1wJ9s1xNcn0K0aAo72EALw_wcB

And a tool like this https://www.onlineautoparts.com.au/products/ZPN-03279__?noseo=true&gclid=Cj0KCQiA38jRBRCQARIsACEqIev_dm6EhJ2fN42Hynx0 1fSYaiAPkmBLsh8afl0oMTElRTYkOwwVLz8aAiuwEALw_wcB

I wish I had known about the upgrade before I shelled out for the GQ tool and had some locking washers made for around $2 each.

GU System??? I think you mean GQ system, my 92 GQ TI runs the same thing and I'm pretty sure its factory fitted not after market or a GU thing.......

[mad66]

It is 54mm from memory. The tool's available on fleabay for a peanut.
Where does it say 53mm in Gregory's??!!

Don't know mate that is the story I got from my mate that is changing the rotors but 53 doesn't sound right to me. that is an offf size. Yeah 54 is the right size. Cheers

[mudnut]

My issue with the current system is that you replace the washers each time you need to remove the hub. That can be quite often if you get a lot of water, mud and gunk on the swivel, which tends to prematurely destroy the scraper and seal thus allowing water ingress.

I have seen when you follow the manual and torque the hub nut to spec, the nut actually drags the washer tab with it a little bit which weakens the washer tab rendering it unsafe to re-use.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Front-Stub-Axle-Nut-Wheel-Bearing-Lock-Washer-Tab-GQ-Y60-fit-Nissan-Patrol-4x4/401299532795?hash=item5d6f50ebfb:g:5sUAAOSwyWZZOgz m

I was quoted an exorbitant price, locally, for the washers, that is why I had some made.

[mudnut]

GU System??? I think you mean GQ system, my 92 GQ TI runs the same thing and I'm pretty sure its factory fitted not after market or a GU thing.......

Thank you for correcting me. It is strange they didn't use that system throughout the range as it is way superior than having to replace locking washers. Mine is a '94.
NissanGQ4.2 Did yours come with auto locking hubs?

[mudnut]

Winnie, didn't you do the axle lock nut upgrade? Or have I given out bullshit advice, cause my memory sucks?

I think I have totally F%$^$^%# up, yet again. In the manual, it shows the two types of hubs, manual and auto locking.

It looks as if the manual hub needs the smaller lock nut to work, and the auto hubs can use the locking ring.

I was actually going to buy the upgrade for myself but it looks as I've wasted mad66 's money and time.

[dom14]

My issue with the current system is that you replace the washers each time you need to remove the hub. That can be quite often if you get a lot of water, mud and gunk on the swivel, which tends to prematurely destroy the scraper and seal thus allowing water ingress.

I have seen when you follow the manual and torque the hub nut to spec, it actually drags the washer tab with it a little bit which weakens it rendering it unsafe to re-use.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Front-Stub-Axle-Nut-Wheel-Bearing-Lock-Washer-Tab-GQ-Y60-fit-Nissan-Patrol-4x4/401299532795?hash=item5d6f50ebfb:g:5sUAAOSwyWZZOgz m

I was quoted an exorbitant price, locally, for the washers, that is why I had some made.

Hmmm..... I reused the nut, and didn't think it cause any problems down the track.
I manually adjust it by feeling the drag and play and keep doing it until I get the desired feeling of drag.

I will pull out mine soon and re-do the bearings, and will find out what or if I need to replace the bits and pieces above.

[mudnut]

Hmmm..... I reused the nut, and didn't think it cause any problems down the track.
I manually adjust it by feeling the drag and play and keep doing it until I get the desired feeling of drag.

I will pull out mine soon and re-do the bearings, and will find out what or if I need to replace the bits and pieces above.

The locking washer not the nut is weakened. The post is amended to make that clear.

I have to replace the front brake discs, pads, swivel scraper and seals again, anyway. I was hoping to do the upgrade at the same time, but I think I would need to get auto locking hubs. Waiting for this to be confirmed.

[dom14]

The locking washer not the nut is weakened. The post is amended to make that clear.

I have to replace the front brake discs, pads, swivel scraper and seals again, anyway. I was hoping to do the upgrade at the same time, but I think I would need to get auto locking hubs. Waiting for this to be confirmed.

From what I know, I would keep the manual ones, regardless of having to get out of the vehicle to engage and disengage them.

I used the same locking washer. It would depend how many times you have to do and undo the hubs.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Thank you for correcting me. It is strange they didn't use that system throughout the range as it is way superior than having to replace locking washers. Mine is a '94.
NissanGQ4.2 Did yours come with auto locking hubs?

I could be wrong, I just can't see mine being after market or converted by the previous owner

Yeh mate Auto locking hubs, although they are now converted 2 manual

[mudnut]

I could be wrong, I just can't see mine being after market or converted by the previous owner

Yeh mate Auto locking hubs, although they are now converted 2 manual

So I have stuffed up. In Winnies early pictures of his Patrol it has the manual hubs, which I thought you could upgrade to the locking ring. ( I remember him posting that he had upgraded and I assumed it was just the locking ring). In his later pics it looks like he has fitted the auto hubs. Still hoping I am wrong about that, though.

[mudnut]

From what I know, I would keep the manual ones, regardless of having to get out of the vehicle to engage and disengage them.

I used the same locking washer. It would depend how many times you have to do and undo the hubs.

I just don't trust steel that has already been flexed, so I change out the lock washer, each time.

[NissanGQ4.2]

So I have stuffed up. In Winnies early pictures of his Patrol it has the manual hubs, which I thought you could upgrade to the locking ring. ( I remember him posting that he had upgraded and I assumed it was just the locking ring). In his later pics it looks like he has fitted the auto hubs.

All is good, from a quick read now, from 95 onward was when the changes to that style, I don't know it matters if its auto hubs or manual. Maybe mine where converted, maybe the TI models had them because they where the top of the line model

[mudnut]

All is good, from a quick read now, from 95 onward was when the changes to that style, I don't know it matters if its auto hubs or manual. Maybe mine where converted, maybe the TI models had them because they where the top of the line model

Yep, that makes sense. The RB30 is was supposed to be the cheaper version, or mums taxi.

[dom14]

Yep, that makes sense. The RB30 is was supposed to be the cheaper version, or mums taxi.

Fuel economic version or so I thought. I'm not sure whether that is the case. When start grunting and revving, it can consume almost the same as TB engines, I think. I've heard TB45, 48's producing 5-6km/L economy, and I've never heard of an RB30 producing 7km/L economy. I bought the RB30 with fuel economy in mind which I now think is a the wrong approach there is no heavy 4WD that is fuel economical. Of course, there are other advantages with RB30, 'cos the engine's widely available, as well as turbo gear, etc. For example the cylinder head I have on mine now was given to me for pretty much for nothing which I rebuilt myself.

[dom14]

All is good, from a quick read now, from 95 onward was when the changes to that style, I don't know it matters if its auto hubs or manual. Maybe mine where converted, maybe the TI models had them because they where the top of the line model

I've heard about guys converting to manual from auto after having trouble with auto hubs engaging when it shouldn't, so I avoided manual to auto conversion, even though a guy offered me his auto's in exchange for my manuals. I've been just cautious.
I've never had any issues with old Jackaroo auto hubs, and back then I thought all front 4WD hubs were auto.

[NissanGQ4.2]

I've heard about guys converting to manual from auto after having trouble with auto hubs engaging when it shouldn't, so I avoided manual to auto conversion, even though a guy offered me his auto's in exchange for my manuals. I've been just cautious.
I've never had any issues with old Jackaroo auto hubs, and back then I thought all front 4WD hubs were auto.

Sad thing is they are wasting there money converting their auto's to manual, even if they have trouble its only a case of ripping a few bits out of the auto hubs and they are manual anyway and still probably stronger then aftermarket hubs. 95% are probable trouble free 2 just people just don't know how 2 use them

[mudnut]

I actually think the converted auto hubs are better, because you need a socket to change them over. Its too easy for mischievous fingers to flick the manual ones over.

[dom14]

I actually think the converted auto hubs are better, because you need a socket to change them over. Its too easy for mischievous fingers to flick the manual ones over.

True.
Hopefully, it won't do much damage and I am likely to notice it from the funny noise/feeling from the front wheels when the swivel hub is engaged. 'I've heard we are supposed to engage it once every six months or so to ensure it gets lubricated itself by turning(if it doesn't get used much).

[Pesty]

The later GQs run the newer system, mine has been running the 54mm nuts since 1989 without issue


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[mad66]

Thanks for the replys guys. We have changed the rotors and pads and all good. the gu kit is still on its way and will go to that system when I change out the front bearings after RWC. didn't quite have the dollars to do the whole lot in one hit which has pissed me off but that is how it goes.

[the evil twin]

Thanks for the replys guys. We have changed the rotors and pads and all good. the gu kit is still on its way and will go to that system when I change out the front bearings after RWC. didn't quite have the dollars to do the whole lot in one hit which has pissed me off but that is how it goes.

Good decision... the GU bearing pre-load setup is heaps better than those stupid tab washers IMHO

[mudnut]

So I didn't stuff up ? The egg ring, manual locking gear and spacer still fit with the locking ring?

[mad66]

So I didn't stuff up ? The egg ring, manual locking gear and spacer still fit with the locking ring?

Yep. just got them in. It is just a round nut with a lock washer that goes over the top of the round nut and locks onto the shaft where the cut outs are then held in place with two small screws.

[mad66]

This pic will give a better idea for those interested.
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