Ironman vs. ToughDog Suspension

[JackoGQYoot]

G'day all
Went to the Perth 4wd Show on Sunday, and got 2 quotes on a 4" lift for my coil cab. The best price I got was for an ironman 4" kit, $2250 fitted at Sharp Automotive. I also got a quote for a Tough dog kit, $2710 fitted by Opposite Lock. OL followed up the quote and said that they would price match. Just going to ask which brand you guys would go for?
Cheers:cheers:

[GQtdauto]

While I don't know much about those brands I have to wonder about price difference in the initial quote , just how hard were OL trying to get your business by being that much more expensive to start with .

[JackoGQYoot]

The Sharp Automotive quote was very very cheap, because they gave me a discount on the actual kit of about $300 and they will fit the kit for $250. I got the quote from OL before the Ironman one, but was very impressed by Sharp's price so I think I will go with them, unless OL price match for me.

[mudski]

Whats included in the kit?

[4bye4]

Try this mob.
http://www.westcoastsuspension.com.au

[JackoGQYoot]

The kit includes 4x 4" Coils, foam cell shocks, 3 degree castor bushes, 2x extended brake lines, 2x HD adjustable Panhard rods, extended f&r sway bar links, and a steering damper mount for on the panhard rod. I am already planning for a HD adjustable draglink and a steering damper so the kit doesn't really need those included.

Yeah, checked ot WCS at the show and they weren't too keen on giving me a definitive quote.

Cheers

[4bye4]

Yeah, checked ot WCS at the show and they weren't too keen on giving me a definitive quote.
Thats their loss then. Not much point in exibiting at the show if you don't follow up.
Cheers Tony

[Ben-e-boy]

Iron man are including 3 degree bushes on a 4 inch lift. Given that there is only 1 degree of tolerance for your castor setting and that the general rule is 1 degree of castor per 1 inch of lift, says to me that that kit isn't going to perform that well, that's ontop of castor bushes being junk anyway.

Personally I'd save more money and get a much better overall kit

[JackoGQYoot]

Upon researching, 3 degrees of castor is perfect for a 4 inch lift. All the brands like toughdog and superior engineering say 3 degrees is good. I've been looking at drop boxes. Would they be better do you think?

[Ben-e-boy]

Drop boxes are better, also stronger lower control arms and some adjustable upper control arms

Also where did you find that research? I'm a big advocate for correct castor and would like to read it

[mudski]

Drop boxes are better, also stronger lower control arms and some adjustable upper control arms



Spot on. Both upper and lower control arms should be changed if you going to a 4inch lift. And drop boxes are much better than offset bushes.

[MudRunnerTD]

Personally I'd save more money and get a much better overall kit

What he said ^^^^^

If I was forced go choose I'd fit ironman but honestly I would never even get a quote for either of those kits. Save some more now and benefit for the long term from a better platform.

[Avo]

Thats their loss then. Not much point in exibiting at the show if you don't follow up.
Cheers Tony

i would buy west coast suspension again......that guiy at the show...just din't appreciate his job,....happy with what they did to my gq..

[DX grunt]

Try this mob.
http://www.westcoastsuspension.com.au

This is what i've got on mine. Had it done roughly 18 months ago. Very happy, but haven't really tested it yet. Lol

[4bye4]

i would buy west coast suspension again......that guiy at the show...just din't appreciate his job,....happy with what they did to my gq..

Hey Avo I also have WCS on my wagon which is why I suggested them. Very happy. My negative comments were directed at the show staff, not the product. Sorry if I mislead anyone.[emoji17]


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[JackoGQYoot]

Hey guys

What brand drop boxes would I be best to get? I like the look of superior engineering ones, but they are 400 bucks. (www.superiorengineering.com.au/4x4-suspension/suspension-parts/superior-drop-boxes-35-lift-nissan-patrol-gqgu-17231?filter=130,355)

I can get some from roadrunneroffroad for $269. (http://www.roadrunneroffroad.com.au/Bolt-in-Drop-Boxes-GQGU-Patrol-Suit-3-to-5-lift.html)

Should I get Superior fixed upper and lower control arms or adjustable?

My front bumpstops are completely shagged too, so I probably need some more of those to go with the lift. Does anyone know where I could get some brand new 80 series ones cheap?

Cheers

[mudski]

Hey guys

What brand drop boxes would I be best to get? I like the look of superior engineering ones, but they are 400 bucks. (www.superiorengineering.com.au/4x4-suspension/suspension-parts/superior-drop-boxes-35-lift-nissan-patrol-gqgu-17231?filter=130,355)

I can get some from roadrunneroffroad for $269. (http://www.roadrunneroffroad.com.au/Bolt-in-Drop-Boxes-GQGU-Patrol-Suit-3-to-5-lift.html)

Should I get Superior fixed upper and lower control arms or adjustable?

My front bumpstops are completely shagged too, so I probably need some more of those to go with the lift. Does anyone know where I could get some brand new 80 series ones cheap?

Cheers

Road runner ones will be fine. I think mine are from there... Get adjustable upper rear arms and fixed lower. For my GU wagon I got 10mm longer lower rears. But adjustable uppers so I could adjust the pinion angle exactly.

[JackoGQYoot]

Thanks for that guys. Sounds good.:clapping: