63% reductions suit GQ & GU patrol [QLD]

[love ke70]

ITEM: 63% reductions suit GQ & GU patrol (3.29:1 ratio)

CONDITION: brand new in unopened box made by Marks 4wd.

PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS: 1410 + post

EXTRA INFO: I have a set of these in my own vehicle and to be honest, they are the best ratio for reductions, I have only ever had positive feedback.
I had them made as a custom order by Marks 4wd as I felt the ratios they offered (43% and 85% lower than stock) were not what I was after.
The 43% reduction still leaves the 1st gear final drive ratio faster than that of a stock 1HZ landcruiser and the 85% can be too slow and leave you range changing and just hating life in general.
These gears come with full manufacturers warranty as comes from Marks and I can post to most of Australia for $25-35. I am happy to quote freight internationally.
Probably one of the best mods I have done to my truck, I would say in terms of wheeling they made more of a change than my lockers did, as it is such an overall improvement
Cost to install varies from $300 to over $1000 with the average being around $500.
It can be done at home if you are spanner handy.
Any questions feel free to post or PM or contact me on 0433 108 569
Cheers, Andy

LOCATION: Yatala, 4207

[Cuppa]

I'm not in the market for these unfortunately, but I can't imagine you'll have them long. Would be the ducks guts I reckon. ................one day!

[MB]

G’day Andy, they sound great mate. One day when coin permits too I was previously thinking about changing diff ratios in our family wagon TD4.2T running 33” tyres from 3.9s to say 4.3s for slower track work. Don’t really want to lose highway efficiency though by doing this and your gears may be the answer. As a very rough ratio guide would your gears in low range equate to something like 4.6 diffs when off-road? Cheers Mark


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[mudski]

God I wish I had the coin for these.

[MB]

Does look like the go Mr Mark mate, wishing too here we are! Have roughly priced up front and rear diff centre swaps + a Mark’s 5th gear highway upgrade to counteract and appears double if not triple. What’s your preferred pace/ratio old mate, this 63% sounds really good but unsure of the maths?


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[jay see]

G’day Andy, they sound great mate. One day when coin permits too I was previously thinking about changing diff ratios in our family wagon TD4.2T running 33” tyres from 3.9s to say 4.3s for slower track work. Don’t really want to lose highway efficiency though by doing this and your gears may be the answer. As a very rough ratio guide would your gears in low range equate to something like 4.6 diffs when off-road? Cheers Mark

Mark, I've got these installed for the exact same reason you mentioned. Slow track work and I don't lose fuel efficiency as it's my daily. Best way I can explain the ratio is when in low 1, I was looking for a lower gear, always too fast on the downhill runs and bloody dangerous when wet. Now I need to accelerate sometime. Have only done one trip with them in (with the old 35s) and yes, well worth it. It's a good balance for my tb45+auto.

And I'm also running 3.9s

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[mudski]

Does look like the go Mr Mark mate, wishing too here we are! Have roughly priced up front and rear diff centre swaps + a Mark’s 5th gear highway upgrade to counteract and appears double if not triple. What’s your preferred pace/ratio old mate, this 63% sounds really good but unsure of the maths?


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Yeah the 5th gear thingo I wouldn't mind doing too.

[Rock Trol]

Reduction gears are probably the best mod I have done to the Patrol. Absolutely transformed it off road.
Best thing to do is get onto Marks Adapters web site and look at the table which lists the actual reduction you get for different model Patrols as there is a big difference between autos and manuals. Also tyre size and diff ratios will make a difference.

[MB]

Cheers blokes, will check out their graphs tomorrow for sure! The OP’s 63% advertised isn’t a standard gear though it seems and custom made it appears. Very interested us as it’s looking like the perfect happy medium for our family trucking needs :-)


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[jay see]

Cheers blokes, will check out their graphs tomorrow for sure! The OP’s 63% advertised isn’t a standard gear though it seems and custom made it appears. Very interested us as it’s looking like the perfect happy medium for our family trucking needs :-)


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCorrect Mark. It's something that Andy has done with marks. There's a lot of info on the other Patrol forum .

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[Rock Trol]

The price is good as well. I paid $1500 for my gears direct from Marks.

[mudski]

If someone buys my 35's AND RIMS FOR 15hunge I will buy them. Lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Cheers blokes, will check out their graphs tomorrow for sure! The OP’s 63% advertised isn’t a standard gear though it seems and custom made it appears. Very interested us as it’s looking like the perfect happy medium for our family trucking needs :-)


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Yeah Love Ke70 started by doing a group buy on these ratios across both Patrol forums and has since been buying them by the pallet as Marks will only do them as a custom ratio with a minimum order. I'd expect him to have more than one set. He almost should be chatting to AB about a vendors thread.

From all accounts it's a great ratio.

[MB]

Great idea there for sure mate!
Heard a rumour that installing the 85% gears requires some slight case rib cutting which would worry me a little bit. Sounds like his 63% fit in no sweat which would be ideal too!


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[jay see]

You need to grind the case for the 63.

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[MB]

Thanks JaySee mate, is it much off or just a whisker off an edge?


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[Rock Trol]

There is also slight grinding required for 43% gears as well. Only the 24% gears fit straight in.

[jay see]

Thanks JaySee mate, is it much off or just a whisker off an edge?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDon't know, I got them installed. Didn't like the idea of moving around a transfer case that weighs more than me.

From what I read and remember I think a die grinder was used.

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[MB]

Thanks blokes, doesn’t sound too extreme then, happy days!


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[love ke70]

Wow, I did not expect to get so many responses on here!!
I had a run of 50 and only have a few left now :)

Starting from the top..

Thanks Cuppa, they are a great piece of kit :)

Mark, to answer your question, each ratio change is about 5%
so 3.9 to 4.11 is 5%, 4.11 to 4.375 is 5%, 4.3 to 4.6 is about 5% too, so that is about 15% reduction.
These gears are a 63% reduction, but obviously only affect your low range.
For a reference, compared to your standard low range gears you have now, low 3rd is a gear between your current first and second low range.
Low fifth will be just a bit slower than your current high second :)

Mudski, wanna pay a set off over a few weeks?

Jaysee, very true, the downhill control is what I wanted and I love them :D I dont know how I went without now I have had them for so long I love it!

Rock Trol and Mark, Yep, the Marks website will have the info but my ratio will not be there as they are built to my order. They obviously fit nicely in between the 43 and 85. They do fill a gap marks tells me there is no market for...to me they fill a massive gap where you want slow, but not crazy slow and the 43 is still too quick

MudRunner, this is a one off for sale thread for one set, how many sets I do have is irrelevant hahaha but nah, seriously, I have bugger all of this pallet left and I wont do another run for atleast 18 months. I have a house to build. I sell them on facebook and just jumped on here to try move a couple more to get them all gone :) I have done 150 sets in the three or so years since the first group buy thread.

With the case grinding, the Marks instructions are the same for the 43s the 63s and the 85s, but alot of people say they can fit 43s without grinding the case. I dont know as I have never installed a set myself! The 63's do need a grind, but it is very minor. Check the instructions here

marks4wd.com/downloads/dl/file/id/76/fitting_instructions_mfk1515.pdf

Let me know if you are keen on a set or want more info mate :)


Cheers, Andy

[MB]

Awesome info, thanks Andy, PM sent mate.


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[love ke70]

5 sets left if anyone is sitting on the fence now is your chance :)

[MB]

Cheers Andy, has been a pleasure mate, top bloke & gears have arrived super safely to locations up/down here! http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/12/49.jpg Finally a modification for the family trucksters that Mrs MB fully endorses :-) Off tracks she’s excited about low & slow float reversing connection. On family track weekends I can keep that chuggers turbo RPM up at a much lower happy darling speeds :-) Cheers again mate!



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[mudski]

I gotta get off my ass and sell these rims and tyres I have here...

[love ke70]

Good to hear MB :)
The reversing thing is going to make your missus smile from ear to ear! I absolutely love reversing my work trailer, clutch out and just doodle along, so much easier to do when youre not slipping the clutch!

[MB]

Thanks again Andy, will hopefully get some time one day soon to fit em. Does sound more exciting, looking forward to Mrs MB reversing whilst I’m doodling, lol :-) Cheers mate!!


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[newbie12]

Any of these left ?

[Jeza686]

I was just going to ask the same question.


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[jay see]

Any of these left ?
I was just going to ask the same question.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHe doesn't get on there that often, you'll find me on the other Patrol forum.

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[newbie12]

He doesn't get on there that often, you'll find me on the other Patrol forum.

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Do you mean patrol4x4.com?

[AB]

Do you mean patrol4x4.com?

Yep thats what he means mate.

[growler2058]

Do you mean patrol4x4.com?
Family friendly forum mate. Please refrain from such vile language..................3 hail marys and scrub ya mouth with a wire brush and dettol

[mnoga]

Hi mate , i just found your post about reduction gears do you still have some for sale ? im very interested
Mark 0418863727

[AB]

I also know someone who wants some too mate so as above let us know.

Welcome to the forum Mark, throw up an intro about yourself in the intro section.

[mudski]

I saw this thread pop up and totally forgot about them as I sold my tyres and I still have the money from them. So, I have just been in contact with Andy. He's out of stock. It will be atleast 16 weeks away for the next set. Damn it! Looks like I have to wait.

[MB]

Absolute transformation of the ute they ended up installed in thanks mate! Definitely one of those mods I’m personally looking back on thinking stuff that before setup!
In all honesty I too believe these new found awesome reduction gears will save money in the long run without smashing trucks uphills ;-)
EDIT: Downhill’s even better under compression, 63% better casual/relaxed views ;-) http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/04/93.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/04/94.jpg


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[mudski]

Please stop posting those beautiful pics please. :(

[jay see]

Absolute transformation of the ute they ended up installed in thanks mate! Definitely one of those mods I’m personally looking back on thinking stuff that before setup!
In all honesty I too believe these new found awesome reduction gears will save money in the long run without smashing trucks uphills ;-)
EDIT: Downhill’s even better under compression, 63% better casual/relaxed views ;-)

Couldn't have said it better.[emoji122][emoji122]

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