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katwoman
4th May 2017, 07:33 PM
I am looking at fitting a high flow to my GU TD42 gas injected to help with overheating towing big loads.
Any suggestions. There's a mob on faceache but I cant find them.
mudnut
4th May 2017, 07:59 PM
I hope this thread has some info, http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?35079-TD42-high-performance-water-pump-feedback&highlight=water+pump.
Hodge
4th May 2017, 08:34 PM
JPC sell one. I have one on my GU, Mudski and Mudrunner have one too I think. Price has gone up a bit since last I looked.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JPC-Nissan-Patrol-TD42-High-Flow-Water-Pump-/222494374282?hash=item33cdb2b98a:g:2m4AAOSwXYtY3Ft o
I'm honestly not sure that the 4.2s and or TD's as we have need a hi-flow Kat mate, clean em up as stock discussed:-)
stevemc181
4th May 2017, 09:55 PM
Not sure if you have considered going an all electric type pump like these from Davies Craig. http://daviescraig.com.au/electric-water-pumps
They do a few different models in either booster pumps or stand alone pumps for a variety of engine sizes and vehicles.
katwoman
4th May 2017, 10:04 PM
I'm honestly not sure that the 4.2s and or TD's as we have need a hi-flow Kat mate, clean em up as stock discussed:-)
I've done most I can with it katrol is the primary tow truck ATM and I don't want to cook her.
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nissannewby
4th May 2017, 10:19 PM
I've done most I can with it katrol is the primary tow truck ATM and I don't want to cook her.
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Turn the gas off and see what happens....
Also when you say overheating is this just what the factory gauge is saying or do you have an aftermarket one actually showing the temp?
katwoman
4th May 2017, 11:00 PM
Turn the gas off and see what happens....
Also when you say overheating is this just what the factory gauge is saying or do you have an aftermarket one actually showing the temp?
Factory gauge. Sits just under half, no matter what until the trailer and 2 tonne go on..Then straight up in the red
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MudRunnerTD
4th May 2017, 11:09 PM
Do you have a Pyro EGT gauge?
nissannewby
4th May 2017, 11:11 PM
Factory gauge. Sits just under half, no matter what until the trailer and 2 tonne go on..Then straight up in the red
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What have you done with the cooling system up to this point?
katwoman
4th May 2017, 11:16 PM
Do you have a Pyro EGT gauge?
Yes. That runs avg 250
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katwoman
4th May 2017, 11:20 PM
What have you done with the cooling system up to this point?
Just the usual. Rad was recored 12 months ago( standard) cleaned a couple of months ago, had gas tuned 18-24 months ago. Have always been led to believe standard is best(?) In GU'S. Will change thermostat next week. Run the proper coolant.
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MudRunnerTD
4th May 2017, 11:22 PM
Yes. That runs avg 250
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Yeah right! So your hitting the red on water temp but only seeing 250c on the EGT?
I have the JPC Hiflow water pump. I fitted it with a brand new copper radiator and an Infinity fan and a Hiflow thermostat.. I fitted the abort Warner at the same time. Since the tune it has never had movement on the temp gauge. This ncludes towing the 1.5t camper in 40c @ 115km/h
Very pleased with the results. Is it the water pump? No idea! But the motor no longer gets hot.
nissannewby
4th May 2017, 11:27 PM
Do you own one of those infrared heat guns at all?
katwoman
4th May 2017, 11:34 PM
Do you own one of those infrared heat guns at all?
No...........
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nissannewby
4th May 2017, 11:46 PM
No...........
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All good. You can use them to help with diagnosis. But you can use your hand.
When its getting hot does stopping allow it cool reasonably quick? You can also get a bit of an idea by touching the hoses. If the top and bottom hoses are similar temperatures it can kind of help point out where the issue is. If they are both coolish then its likely a thermostat or problem. If they are both hot then the radiator is not getting enough air flow or possibly has a blockage internally.
The fan hub can also be the culprit if it is not engaging enough to get enough drive on the fan. This can be checked by checking the resistance when the engine is stopped.
The other thing that you can check is if the thermostst is opening far enough to conpletely block the bypass port in the thermostat housing. You can do this by measurement or even just block the port with something like a welch plug and test drive.
katwoman
4th May 2017, 11:54 PM
All good. You can use them to help with diagnosis. But you can use your hand.
When its getting hot does stopping allow it cool reasonably quick? You can also get a bit of an idea by touching the hoses. If the top and bottom hoses are similar temperatures it can kind of help point out where the issue is. If they are both coolish then its likely a thermostat or problem. If they are both hot then the radiator is not getting enough air flow or possibly has a blockage internally.
The fan hub can also be the culprit if it is not engaging enough to get enough drive on the fan. This can be checked by checking the resistance when the engine is stopped.
The other thing that you can check is if the thermostst is opening far enough to conpletely block the bypass port in the thermostat housing. You can do this by measurement or even just block the port with something like a welch plug and test drive.
Yes it cools quick..I remember replacing hub and blades but that may of been on my petrol one. I'll try what you've suggested over weekend, and change thermostat anyway. Thanks mat, youre a great help. Then I'll do the same on the chev.
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katwoman
4th May 2017, 11:58 PM
Being gas injected, should I go high flow thermostat or doesn't matter ?
nissannewby
5th May 2017, 03:33 AM
Being gas injected, should I go high flow thermostat or doesn't matter ?
Doesnt matter. Although the tridon highflow thermostat for the td is longer than others so will more than likely close the bypass port in operation. They do have the measurements on their website if you wanted to check prior to buying one.
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