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katwoman
28th April 2011, 08:51 AM
Well , the Coonara dropped it's guts in the house last week. Now looking at replacement. Options are really only another wood fire or power.
Reverse cycle ? With power bills going up the way they are, are these thirsty ?
On bottle gas, so not really an option.
Already have wood fire in shed as well, so lots of wood..
OR move to QLD.
Any other options ?
House on concrete slab, so no ducting under there.

YNOT
28th April 2011, 09:04 AM
We have 2 big reverse cycle air conditioners in our house and they really add to the power bill.
If you have good supply to firewood I'd be going for a slow combustion heater.
And yes we do still use heaters in Qld, just not as often as our southern cousins.

Tony

Sir Roofy
28th April 2011, 09:18 AM
hi kat
mate stick with the wood with the way things are going its the only heating that you /we can afford
as tony said a good slow combustion would be the go

katwoman
28th April 2011, 09:34 AM
Cheers guys. Gotta love the wood fire. But doesn't hurt to look at other options. Personally I want to stick with wood.

Sir Roofy
28th April 2011, 09:45 AM
Cheers guys. Gotta love the wood fire. But doesn't hurt to look at other options. Personally I want to stick with wood.

we better start collecting candles to the way they are trying to scr*w every one over it
slowly going backwards to the 1900,s

AB
28th April 2011, 10:06 AM
Yep go the slow combustion.

We have a coonara and it gets so hot in the house you have to open up the windows and walk around in your undies...lol...I can post some pics if anyone wants a fright!!!

The house came with 2 x split systems and try to use them as least as possible.

My misses loves to turn them on which costs a lot of money on the power bills so I have to cut up fine kindling to make it easier for her to light otherwise the power bills are huge!!!

Very temptered to throw the remote controls away.

Bob
28th April 2011, 11:46 AM
We have Natural Gas Central Heating which is reasonable in Running Costs however it heats the whole House which is a Waste. Would love to have a Wood Fire but due to design of our House it is hard to fit.

Clunk
28th April 2011, 12:41 PM
I'd definitely stick with the wood fire Kat, reverse cycle split systems soak up the juice big time

kingy
28th April 2011, 01:36 PM
MY Last RC bill for the summer was $1200....so from now on outside under the hose until I get the water bill...go for Wood but do the math and see what adds up.

Sir Roofy
28th April 2011, 02:15 PM
we have natural gas central heating which is reasonable in running costs however it heats the whole house which is a waste. Would love to have a wood fire but due to design of our house it is hard to fit.
why not look at a free standing model
have safe trip home bob

YNOT
28th April 2011, 02:17 PM
Cheers guys. Gotta love the wood fire. But doesn't hurt to look at other options. Personally I want to stick with wood.

You can't beat the atmosphere of a woodfire, I wish I had one - not that it would get a lot of use.

Tony

katwoman
28th April 2011, 03:29 PM
You can't beat the atmosphere of a woodfire, I wish I had one - not that it would get a lot of use.

Tony

Yeah, your right. Nothing like staring at flames in the middle of the night, when u can't sleep.
Looks like it's back to fighting over the wood pile !!

Finly Owner
28th April 2011, 11:44 PM
Yeah, your right. Nothing like staring at flames in the middle of the night, when u can't sleep.
Looks like it's back to fighting over the wood pile !!
Or move to Qld and we can all have forum meet around my outside fire pit.

Tim

growler2058
29th April 2011, 06:58 AM
Cheapest form of heating would have two be star jumps or out of hours bedroom activities hahahahhahahahahaha

katwoman
29th April 2011, 07:02 AM
Cheapest form of heating would have two be star jumps or out of hours bedroom activities hahahahhahahahahaha

Haha, yeah right. Two star jumps = two black eyes !! I think I prefer Tim's firepit.

Finly Owner
29th April 2011, 11:30 PM
Haha, yeah right. Two star jumps = two black eyes !! I think I prefer Tim's firepit.
I'll even share some Bourbon with you.
or vodka

Tim

patch697
30th April 2011, 01:43 AM
I'll even share some Bourbon with you.
or vodka

Tim

Im coming up in 2 to 4 mths with a mate (he's a Tojo driver but we can't all be perfect & even Tojo driver's need friends...lolol) So anyways if the Bourbons on you Tim im in.

Stick with the wood Kat. I don't think you will find a nicer type of heat, its in a liege all on its own & anything else is pail by comparison.

DX grunt
30th April 2011, 03:26 AM
Cheapest form of heating would have two be star jumps or out of hours bedroom activities hahahahhahahahahaha
Why not wrap yourself up in a blanket and be as snug as a bug in a rug??

DX grunt
30th April 2011, 03:28 AM
Well , the Coonara dropped it's guts in the house last week.
At least it wasn't Bigrig.




Sorry, I really gotta go to bed - I'm so overtired. lol

Clunk
30th April 2011, 03:31 AM
At least it wasn't Bigrig.




Sorry, I really gotta go to bed - I'm so overtired. lol

hahahahahahahaha fomclshnrofpmsl

DX grunt
30th April 2011, 03:36 AM
hahahahahahahaha fomclshnrofpmsl

I love Scotty ( figure of speech only) and can't wait to meet him. lol

Clunk
30th April 2011, 03:37 AM
I love Scotty ( figure of speech only) and can't wait to meet him. lol

go to bed, you've gone dillusional hahahahahaha

NissanGQ4.2
30th April 2011, 07:17 AM
If you have a free or very cheap source of firewood, go for a slow combustion fire.

If you have 2 pay for wood, I would look at connecting up to N .Gas if possible.

katwoman
30th April 2011, 07:42 AM
If you have a free or very cheap source of firewood, go for a slow combustion fire.

If you have 2 pay for wood, I would look at connecting up to N .Gas if possible.

It's always free till you get caught !! Na, kidding. It's not too bad.

Clunk
1st May 2011, 02:07 AM
If you have a free or very cheap source of firewood, go for a slow combustion fire.

If you have 2 pay for wood, I would look at connecting up to N .Gas if possible.

trouble is, they're gonna be hiking up the price of gas soon too!!!!

NissanGQ4.2
1st May 2011, 07:22 AM
trouble is, they're gonna be hiking up the price of gas soon too!!!!

off course they are, even firewood if you need 2 buy it these days is getting expensive.

Finly Owner
1st May 2011, 11:16 PM
Im coming up in 2 to 4 mths with a mate (he's a Tojo driver but we can't all be perfect & even Tojo driver's need friends...lolol) So anyways if the Bourbons on you Tim im in.

Stick with the wood Kat. I don't think you will find a nicer type of heat, its in a liege all on its own & anything else is pail by comparison.about time we met, I'm sure they'd all come ovr and meet you Paul.

Tim

If ya's are all coming you may hav to BYO but I can shout some Paul.

Tim

rfrom7inoz
12th May 2011, 09:54 PM
Hey all. Just signed a rental lease for a place with slow combustion. Been stationed in Adelaide and literally had 2 days to get to Mount Gambier and find a home to live in when we start work there in June.

Anyway... what prices am I looking at if i have to by firewood? What quantities would i need? I want to have a load waiting ready when we get there. After that I can shop around and possible even look for my own wood.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

NissanGQ4.2
12th May 2011, 10:24 PM
not sure on pricing in SA, but here in Sydney its around the the $300 mark for 2.2 cubic meters of Ironbark.

Price varies depending on quality of firewood also

2.2cu is probably a good start and i would go for a 50/50 mix of hard and soft.

Can check out these websites local 2 me in Sydney, it should give you an idea of prices, sorry haven't found any websites for SA but if i do i'll post them up for you

www.federationfirewood.com.au (http://www.federationfirewood.com.au)

www.bettaburnfirewood.com.au (http://www.bettaburnfirewood.com.au)

just found an SA website but no pricing

http://www.lobethalwoodyard.websyte.com.au/

Also a great website 2 see certified sustainable firewood licensees

http://www.firewood.asn.au/licensees.php


Cheers

Todd

AB
12th May 2011, 10:27 PM
Try your best to get your own wood to burn during the day too and use the good hard wood at night to burn hot all night and save money.

katwoman
12th May 2011, 10:29 PM
Hey, not sure about SA, but I pay ( when I cant get my own) Between $65 and $90 a metre, split. Quantities is hard, cos it depends on how much you use it. We run 2 coonara's ( one in shed), when I'm home I have fire redhot the whole time ( Im coldblooded)
And we go thru about I dunno, maybe 9-10 metres a winter. We also get offcuts from the local sawmill for next to nothing.
Hope this helps..

DX grunt
12th May 2011, 10:38 PM
I'm in a rental and have no choice but to press a button. Have a brand new chainsaw that's been used about 6 times. I help cut everybody elses.
I take it when I go 4 x 4ing, Justin Case.

NissanGQ4.2
12th May 2011, 10:49 PM
I'm in a rental and have no choice but to press a button. Have a brand new chainsaw that's been used about 6 times. I help cut everybody elses.
I take it when I go 4 x 4ing, Justin Case.


your always welcome to my place 2 give your chainsaw a workout, plenty of timber 2 cut up, just don't get caught *L*

rfrom7inoz
12th May 2011, 11:13 PM
Thx Kat. This helps a lot. I have never even had to buy wood before, so at least I get an idea of price range. Thx!

Maxhead
16th May 2011, 09:41 PM
Has anyone installed one of those air ducts to shift hot air to the other side of the house.
They look pretty simple to make but I was just wondering if they work?....no reason why they wouldn't.

Had -7 here last night and the bedroom side of the house was freezing and the heater side was 28deg

AB
16th May 2011, 09:49 PM
Has anyone installed one of those air ducts to shift hot air to the other side of the house.
They look pretty simple to make but I was just wondering if they work?....no reason why they wouldn't.

Had -7 here last night and the bedroom side of the house was freezing and the heater side was 28deg

Kris, you have seen my house and I am in the same boat....

It's only a small house and the entire house gets roasted except for our bedroom which is only 3 steps down from the house but no heat gets there....FREEZING!!!

I have an open gable roof so there is no way to run an air duct through there as I was just thinking of this the other day.

I am considering cutting some duct vent grills around the fire place, running the pipes under the house with a fan/duct grills mounted in the bedroom.

I know heat rises but using the fan theoretically should suck the heat from the loungeroom.

Has anyone done this???

Does it work???

I lay in bed with 2 blankets, fully clothed in the fetal position and I'm OVER IT!!!....lol

Maxhead
16th May 2011, 09:56 PM
Kris, you have seen my house and I am in the same boat....

It's only a small house and the entire house gets roasted except for our bedroom which is only 3 steps down from the house but no heat gets there....FREEZING!!!

I have an open gable roof so there is no way to run an air duct through there as I was just thinking of this the other day.

I am considering cutting some duct vent grills around the fire place, running the pipes under the house with a fan/duct grills mounted in the bedroom.

I know heat rises but using the fan theoretically should suck the heat from the loungeroom.

Has anyone done this???

Does it work???

I lay in bed with 2 blankets, fully clothed in the fetal position and I'm OVER IT!!!....lol

Have a look at the last post on this forum (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/350364)....is it something you want to do?

AB
16th May 2011, 10:03 PM
Yes, that is exactly what I want to do but not what that last post is talking about.

He is talking about taking cold air from ground and putting it up high, etc.

I am very temptered to put two duct vents right infront of the Coonara and run it about 7-8 metres to the lower level master bedroom and babys room.

I've been ordered to get nice looking antique style vents if I am cutting two holes right infront of the Coonara in the loungeroom..lol

It has to surely work...The floor boards infront of the heater are toasty hot, air is getting pulled from there down 7m to another room...Has to work!!!

Maxhead
16th May 2011, 10:14 PM
I see...good luck with it mate.

I'm gonna do mine on the weekend ...hopefully it makes a bit of difference.

AB
16th May 2011, 10:22 PM
I see...good luck with it mate.

I'm gonna do mine on the weekend ...hopefully it makes a bit of difference.

Any chance of a build thread, pics and report...lol

Bob
17th May 2011, 10:16 AM
We have Central Heating (Gas) and I have always hated heating the Bedrooms as when you go to Bed it only takes 30 seconds and you are warm.
I have blocked off the Register in our Bedroom.

NissanGQ4.2
21st May 2011, 12:13 AM
Yes, that is exactly what I want to do but not what that last post is talking about.

He is talking about taking cold air from ground and putting it up high, etc.

I am very temptered to put two duct vents right infront of the Coonara and run it about 7-8 metres to the lower level master bedroom and babys room.

I've been ordered to get nice looking antique style vents if I am cutting two holes right infront of the Coonara in the loungeroom..lol

It has to surely work...The floor boards infront of the heater are toasty hot, air is getting pulled from there down 7m to another room...Has to work!!!


http://www.dualheating.com.au/air-transfer-kits.htm

Maxhead
21st May 2011, 07:46 AM
http://www.dualheating.com.au/air-transfer-kits.htm


That's similar to what I'm installing today sometime except I got all the bits separately as the cost is a lot cheaper and I scored a fair bit for free.
AB needs to run his under the house so he's got the dilemma of getting hot air from the ground level....bit tricky but might be possible

NissanGQ4.2
21st May 2011, 07:53 AM
Let me know if it makes a difference Kris, would be worth doing if it works. Would of helped if i read Andy' post properly, sorry AB that link won't help you.

Maxhead
21st May 2011, 07:57 AM
Let me know if it makes a difference Kris, would be worth doing if it works. Would of helped if i read Andy' post properly, sorry AB that link won't help you.'t
Will do mate, I can't see any reason why it shouldn't.
I'll try and take some pics of what I got as well.

NissanGQ4.2
21st May 2011, 08:03 AM
Extract from

http://www.universalfans.com.au/Heat%20Transfer/Heat%20Transfer.html

A typical system would be installed in the ceiling space and would consist of a vent above the heat source (such as a fire heater or similar), an in-line fan, ducting and a vent on the ceiling of the room the warm air is going to. Other possibilities include wall fans (for adjacent rooms) and running ducting under floor, false ceilings, walls, etc.

Maxhead
21st May 2011, 01:01 PM
Well, the job is done. About 3 hrs and that's going to the hardware shop as well. The bloody house is bigger then I thought.
Now we wait for the results. Will let yous know later on today. Priorities first, of to the bottlo for some rum!!!