Assistance required urgently

[threedogs]

I thought this morning my start battery had expired so I ripped out the multi meter to check for charge.
Its not charging, so I removed the alternator and noticed the 2 wires that plug into the alternator
were broken. Any ideas how i can repair this I need the patrol going for appointments etc.
NOTE there is not enough wire to "re join" them

[mudski]

I remember mine doing the exact same thing. Same spot too. The wires were flush with the plug. I managed to remove enough of the wire shield and soldered a short length of wire onto the broken off wires in the plug, then soldered the new wires into the loom. I also used liquid electrical tape too in the plug end to seal it up.
It was fiddly but certainly doable.

[threedogs]

mudski yeah I only had about 4mm if that but Ive managed to do the same as you did.
Happy with the result but Im passing out from the pain Ive inflcted on my self.
Im grabbing a handfull of meds and having a rest, getting too old for this shite,
Got a great price on an AC delco seal start battery to bummer.

[threedogs]

Not 100% sure that was the problem so Im swapping out the alternator for a new one.
Time will tell its ready to be put back together, but too sore so Ill tackle that tomorrow, lol

[threedogs]

Just realized its going to be in the low 30s tomorrow,
better get an early start.

[GQtdauto]

Get an upgrade alternator from auto 8 , great warranty ( if you keep the receipt) big boost in amps over standard oem.
I'm lucky there based in Wangaratta so I can get one same day .

[GQtdauto]

Sorry just realised you have a GU , just replaced the GU one as well , auto 8 have Bosch units cheap as chips and still good warranty .
I spent $500+ trying to find out what was making fan belt squeal, in the end it was alternator clutch , should have gone to my regular mechanic but he was flooded in at the time .
From memory alternator was around $265 .

[threedogs]

$265 was about what I paid, pretty sure it was from Auto8,
no idea what out put will it be on the alternator?

[threedogs]

mudski where can I buy some liquid electrical tape.
Im thinking Jaycar yes???
the back of that plug looks exposed so to seal it would help lots
On a good note at least I didnt have to pull half the engine bay out to
remove it

[MudRunnerTD]

mudski where can I buy some liquid electrical tape.
Im thinking Jaycar yes???
the back of that plug looks exposed so to seal it would help lots
On a good note at least I didnt have to pull half the engine bay out to
remove it

yeah Jaycar sell it, messy stuff and impossible to clean off. I have only used it once and thought id just put it on then cut the excess off and clean it up later!... Good luck with that!


If there is nothing wrong with your Alternator any Auto Elec should be able to put new leads on it for you mate.

[MudRunnerTD]

Sorry just realised you have a GU , just replaced the GU one as well , auto 8 have Bosch units cheap as chips and still good warranty .
I spent $500+ trying to find out what was making fan belt squeal, in the end it was alternator clutch , should have gone to my regular mechanic but he was flooded in at the time .
From memory alternator was around $265 .

Interesting, so your belt squeal was from the Alternator? did you try Soap or Lubricant on the belt? was it a slip noise or a squealing running noise if that makes sense. rusty_nail this might be your trouble bud.

[Bacho86]

Interesting, so your belt squeal was from the Alternator? did you try Soap or Lubricant on the belt? was it a slip noise or a squealing running noise if that makes sense. rusty_nail this might be your trouble bud.

I recently replaced my alternator due I belt squealing noise as well - turned out the alternator bearing was stuffed big time... about to fall off. Get into asap Nic if that's what you think it is


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[mudski]

mudski where can I buy some liquid electrical tape.
Im thinking Jaycar yes???
the back of that plug looks exposed so to seal it would help lots
On a good note at least I didnt have to pull half the engine bay out to
remove it

Yeah Jaycar sell it. I love using it. Works really well. Just buy a small tube of it though. It will last forever. When using it, squeeze a little out and give it a good mix up prior to application. Works better this way if you do. It is messy though as Darren has said.

[mudnut]

Gotta be extra careful with the liquid tape as it will go off in the tin or tube. Try sealing it in a bag with the air sucked out.

[mudski]

Gotta be extra careful with the liquid tape as it will go off in the tin or tube. Try sealing it in a bag with the air sucked out.

Yeah I had a quite old tube of it and it seemed to have separated in the tube. Id squeeze it out and it would come out clear, then a real thick black substance would come out. A bit of mixing and was all good.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah I had a quite old tube of it and it seemed to have separated in the tube. Id squeeze it out and it would come out clear, then a real thick black substance would come out. A bit of mixing and was all good.

I bought the small can of it and expected the lid to have a brush hanging off it like other adhesives. It was junk. In hindsight I would buy a small disposal brush for the application and throw it away on a job by job basis and I reckon G it would be a great product.

[threedogs]

Can anyone spare me 30 mins of their time this morning, seems Ive really hurt myself yesterday.
I'll be unable to put it back together at this stage. I keep falling down ,,,not a good look lol
Oh the reason for all this in the first place was after starting the Patrol my volt meter showed
11.9 volts same at the back of the Alternator, then I noticed the broken wire while I was removjng
the Alt. I might use some 5min araldite on the plug, we'll see.

[mudnut]

Years ago we found that 5 minute araldite to be electrically conductive, so make sure you don't have glue connecting the wires together or to earth.

[threedogs]

any one know the trick to move the belt tensioner, Ive a 600mm brako bar with a 19mm socket and I cant move it at all
At least the alternator is in, sweating like a pig atm, warming right up now.

[threedogs]

nah cant do it on my own Ill need a hand if anyone can help.
Alternators in all I need a hand with is getting the belt on,
after that Im fine with putting the rest togather, too painful
leaning over the guard in into the engine bay.
Any help would be great

[Throbbinhood]

if anyone can help.


Where are you located mate? If your not too far from me I may be able to pop in after work.

[threedogs]

pm sent yeah its got me beat ATM

[Throbbinhood]

Sorry guys, 3D is a couple of hours away from me. Hopefully someone a bit more local to him can help.

[threedogs]

Im in contact with Mark via TXT hopefully he will have a solution

[TPC]

any one know the trick to move the belt tensioner, Ive a 600mm brako bar with a 19mm socket and I cant move it at all
At least the alternator is in, sweating like a pig atm, warming right up now.

I used a ratchet strap on the bar last time, made it easy.

[threedogs]

it moved ok removing the belt same as last time
GGGrrrrr given up friggen Patrols
this tensioner aint moving anytime soon.
now its hot I cant walk it too much grrrr

[mudnut]

Are you n the RACV roadside assist? Tell them the belt broke and you need to put on the spare.

[threedogs]

all done the tensioner was hitting the aircon housing.
Needed a small "TAP" to move it so all is good.
Happy man now , just need to put the rest togetherand go for a drive. 37 and a cool change tomorrow Aggghhhh

[jay see]

If I was home I would have popped over John, but I've got my hands a little full atm.


Good to see that you got it it on. 👏

[mudski]

:thumbup:............................

[dom14]

all done the tensioner was hitting the aircon housing.
Needed a small "TAP" to move it so all is good.
Happy man now , just need to put the rest togetherand go for a drive. 37 and a cool change tomorrow Aggghhhh

Sorry John,
I'm not too far from your location if I recall correctly, but just discovered the thread.
If you still need a hand, PM me, and I'll drop in.
Cheers
Dom

P.S. Just wondering, how on earth the alternator wires get deteriorated like that?!!

[dom14]

mudski where can I buy some liquid electrical tape.
Im thinking Jaycar yes???


You can use, silicone and it has pretty good electrical insulation properties, and it can stay stuck where you apply it for long time, provided you clean the surface with a bit of solvent like petrol, metho or carby cleaner, etc.

[threedogs]

all back together and going like a bought one very happy main battery charging as it should
thanks in advance for your offers of help
now I need to lie down for a few days Im bloody sore as.lol