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dom14
10th December 2016, 12:30 PM
Hey Guys,

Can you please give me few tips on how to get rid of the cylinder wall & piston crown, etc etc carbon/soot buildup?
I know I can pour little bit of water in the intake of fully warmed up engine.
I'm wondering whether there's more effective method/chemical I can either pour
into the intake or add to petrol to brake down all the carbon soot crud from the engine bore.
Of course, I can pull the cylinder head out and do a manual scrubbing, but that bit too much work for me right now.
Compression readings are bit too high(180-190 range) on all cylinders & I can clearly see soot on the cylinder wall when I point a light at it through the spark plug hole.

Any tips, advice are very much appreciated.

thanks

P.S. Vehicle is an RB30 Patrol, carby.

garett
10th December 2016, 12:58 PM
i did that cleaning of the engine once to and old engine... long story short ended up rebuilding it. the carbon could be helping your cause, i removed the carbon then it started blowing lots of smoke of the blue variety.

dom14
10th December 2016, 02:07 PM
i did that cleaning of the engine once to and old engine... long story short ended up rebuilding it. the carbon could be helping your cause, i removed the carbon then it started blowing lots of smoke of the blue variety.

Yeah, the thought has crossed my mind, but the compression is bit too high for any comfort, do you think?

I thought getting the compression down to 170 or near there might be healthy for the head gasket & head.
I'm also bit worried about timing mishaps & fuel consumption 'cos of the hard soot inside the cylinder(especially on the piston crown).

How did you clean?

garett
10th December 2016, 02:13 PM
google Subaru engine cleaner or upper engine clean

dom14
10th December 2016, 02:21 PM
Found this stuff.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Subaru-upper-engine-cleaner-and-sump-plug-washer-/171922979525?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

and this

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/Liqui-Moly-Petrol-Engine-Intake-Decarb-366g/348781

dom14
10th December 2016, 02:23 PM
google Subaru engine cleaner or upper engine clean

May be I can scrape off the soot on the piston crowns by inserting a flexi stem brush through the spark plug hole, attached to a drill?!!
Does that sound like good idea to you?
I mean, if the soot on the cylinder wall is helping me with a better pistion ring seal, then I shouldn't remove the soot on the cylinder walls, but remove the crud from the piston crown only?!
After that, I reckon I can use a vacuum clean to suck the dust out?
Thanx

firm351
10th December 2016, 03:45 PM
May be I can scrape off the soot on the piston crowns by inserting a flexi stem brush through the spark plug hole, attached to a drill?!!
Does that sound like good idea to you?
I mean, if the soot on the cylinder wall is helping me with a better pistion ring seal, then I shouldn't remove the soot on the cylinder walls, but remove the crud from the piston crown only?!
After that, I reckon I can use a vacuum clean to suck the dust out?
Thanx
I would definitely NOT do this. There is no chance you will be able to clean all the loose carbon out and it wont be long until you have lowered your comp pressure by a shit load. You're better off doing nothing at all than trying this in my opinion.

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billyj
10th December 2016, 05:23 PM
as above use the subaru cleaner or just leave it alone, 180psi is perfectly fine and more comp is definetly better than not enough

dom14
10th December 2016, 07:39 PM
Thanx guys.
I did a bit with water today. It appeared to have "helped".
I've had no blow-by for past few days, and blow-by is back on high revs. :D
Water must have broken off a bit of soot on the piston walls, but I reckon it can't
do much with the piston crown's buildup of soot.
I'll leave it alone.
The good thing is that I was able to get the rich idling carby to idle closer to blue flame(Gunson) by playing with ignition timing & mixture screw. Timing is 15BTDC, and it idles fairly ok with blueish flame.
Only issue is it's pinging for a fraction of a second when I pump the accelerator.

nissannewby
10th December 2016, 08:13 PM
What do you call high revs?

dom14
11th December 2016, 01:29 AM
What do you call high revs?

3.5 - 4k ?

nissannewby
11th December 2016, 08:48 AM
Dont they red line at like 5500 or something around there?

dom14
11th December 2016, 11:36 AM
Dont they red line at like 5500 or something around there?

Yeah, red line starts at 5.5k & the gauge shows upto 8k. I guess RB30 is one of those engine's we can rev safely upto 5k.