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MB
2nd December 2018, 06:48 PM
They’re absolutely perfect for interstate work travel too Ben mate!
Bought a great little collapsible trolley to help getting around at either end without being ripped off by airport pay trolleys[emoji106]
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/232.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/233.jpg
Perfect size for the conveyor trays is a bonus!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/234.jpg
Nested together the third box as I’ll be hauling back more than the inbound leg.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/235.jpg
Could quite easily fit 6 if needed in the back of an SV6 hire wagon which could be handy!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/236.jpg
You’re seals are amazing mate, check out this quick video of the pressure retained from 30,000’ + travel and the box handled it no sweat [emoji106][emoji106]
https://youtu.be/NiTL2D6SpaQ




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FNQGU
2nd December 2018, 07:02 PM
Awesome! Thanks for that, hugely appreciated. And I'd been meaning to video that seal after a flight too! Just forgot last time I flew back from Bris to Cairns.

That idea with the collapsible trolley is also a beauty. Think I'll be finding one of those myself.

Plasnart
2nd December 2018, 08:24 PM
They’re absolutely perfect for interstate work travel too Ben mate!
Bought a great little collapsible trolley to help getting around at either end without being ripped off by airport pay trolleys[emoji106]
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/232.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/233.jpg
Perfect size for the conveyor trays is a bonus!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/234.jpg
Nested together the third box as I’ll be hauling back more than the inbound leg.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/235.jpg
Could quite easily fit 6 if needed in the back of an SV6 hire wagon which could be handy!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/236.jpg
You’re seals are amazing mate, check out this quick video of the pressure retained from 30,000’ + travel and the box handled it no sweat [emoji106][emoji106]
https://youtu.be/NiTL2D6SpaQ




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OK so how do you prove and market the obviously excellent performance of these seals? At 30k feet above sea level (if that what MB got to MEL-HOB) the seals let slip slightly, because when MB opened them up at sea level there was a negative pressure inside. That means that during the ascent phase of that flight the seals were pushed past their maximum pressure differential limit, and then during descent sucked back in the same amount of pressure beyond their limit. But there was still a very obvious "suck in" when MB opened the boxes back at sea level so they are genuinely good seals. If these were my boxes, I'd put a pressure monitor in an empty one on a flight (or in a decompression chamber) to record the elevation these seals work to, to prove their performance. For instance (and hypothetically), the seals may have been tight to 20k feet before pressure dropped inside the box (i.e. the seals let go). Then when the plane descended the pressure that was lost during ascent re-entered through the seals back to their maximum withholding limit. When MB opened them at sea level there was a big difference in air pressure, that's why you heard the suck. Need to measure that pressure differential to prove and market the seal capabilities. If you did this you could legitimately say no dust ingress from the top of Mt Kosciusko (7,310') to the Lake Eyre basin (-30') and prove it! Ben, this box is a ripper IMO and well done!

the evil twin
2nd December 2018, 08:39 PM
Uummmm... the Cargo/Baggage Compartments are pressurised on todays planes same as the people bit...

Lowest Cabin pressure is normally 8,000 feet but latest generation (777 etc) are now down to 6,000 feet in most circumstances.

Still a good -ve pressure test for seals tho

Plasnart
2nd December 2018, 08:44 PM
Uummmm... the Cargo/Baggage Compartments are pressurised on todays planes same as the people bit...

Lowest Cabin pressure is normally 8,000 feet but latest generation (777 etc) are now down to 6,000 feet in most circumstances.

Still a good -ve pressure test for seals tho

And I thought I was a plane nerd. Got a lot of learning still to do thanks ET.

Now...back to my Captain Joe YouTube vids!

FNQGU
2nd December 2018, 09:08 PM
Haha, and here I was thinking we did technical stuff with seals... I know nutting!

Actually, you will notice if you drive up any sort of reasonable elevation that you will get that sort of effect. It is why we've been mucking around testing these Goretex vents. However, at about $15ea, we aren't yet convinced they are a worthwhile addition unless someone really wants to buy and install themselves. Which is easy as it is just a half-inch hole to be drilled. The vent itself has a thread which screws through the wall of the tub, and then a locking nut on the back. There is also an O-ring that compresses against the outside wall of the tub for a water tight fit.

They certainly deal with that sort of pressure effect quite well.

the evil twin
2nd December 2018, 09:12 PM
And I thought I was a plane nerd. Got a lot of learning still to do thanks ET.

Now...back to my Captain Joe YouTube vids!

ROFL... 21 Years as a Techo in the RAAF means I am all but cured of "Plane Nerding" cobber...

My interests these days is mostly restricted to military aviation historical stuff (like me I spose).

But... I do have one word of advice... if your going to get on a plane (military or civvy) check if it has a big eff off kangaroo painted on it .
So far those ones with the 'Roo on 'em have meant you get to walk off at the other end rather than getting smeared over half the planet or burnt to a crisp

Plasnart
2nd December 2018, 09:18 PM
ROFL... 21 Years as a Techo in the RAAF means I am all but cured of "Plane Nerding" cobber...

My interests these days is mostly restricted to military aviation historical stuff (like me I spose).

But... I do have one word of advice... if your going to get on a plane (military or civvy) check if it has a big eff off kangaroo painted on it .
So far those ones with the 'Roo on 'em have meant you get to walk off at the other end rather than getting smeared over half the planet or burnt to a crisp

Yup this could be it's own thread in General Banter. I agree persactly after reading QF31 book.

Edit: Err...make that QF32!

Plasnart
2nd December 2018, 09:21 PM
Haha, and here I was thinking we did technical stuff with seals... I know nutting!

Actually, you will notice if you drive up any sort of reasonable elevation that you will get that sort of effect. It is why we've been mucking around testing these Goretex vents. However, at about $15ea, we aren't yet convinced they are a worthwhile addition unless someone really wants to buy and install themselves. Which is easy as it is just a half-inch hole to be drilled. The vent itself has a thread which screws through the wall of the tub, and then a locking nut on the back. There is also an O-ring that compresses against the outside wall of the tub for a water tight fit.

They certainly deal with that sort of pressure effect quite well.

Take one down to the local diver recovery joint and pay for a quick decompression mate. Would be great to have a definitive readout on pressure capabilities.

MB
3rd December 2018, 05:18 AM
Good to know gents, great learning here as always! Strong boxes for sure and to be fair my seal safely blew at full cruising altitude too, thought it was inflight bean salad Assisted at the time :-)


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MB
4th December 2018, 06:57 PM
A lot less altitude Ben and they’re excelling again mate! Perfect size on skinny 6.0m scissors keeping slings and the like safely away ;-)
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/244.jpg
Very comfortable as a quick seat too when awaiting ground time hogs to get their acts together mate :-)
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/245.jpg




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DX grunt
8th December 2018, 12:27 AM
@MB


Polish your boots, they're disgusting! lol

Avo
8th December 2018, 12:52 AM
@MB


Polish your boots, they're disgusting! lolOppps dad has spoken.....

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MB
8th December 2018, 07:14 AM
@MB
Polish your boots, they're disgusting! lol

They do stink horribly too Rossco mate, sealed em home inside a box too to contain the stench.
You should seriously consider one or two of these great boxes for the boot of your new driver education automobile mate.
They’d fit heaps of spare jocks in case you get a wild one, lol :-)

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the evil twin
8th December 2018, 11:22 AM
snip...
You should seriously consider one or two of these great boxes for the boot of your new driver education automobile mate.
They’d fit heaps of spare jocks in case you get a wild one, lol :-)



Strewth... no wonder he bought 8 of the boxes then.

Rossco also gave me the tip on polishing boots that he learnt from his Navy days... give 'em a polish with Nugget and soiled Lycra (works best on brown leather but black is OK too)

DX grunt
10th December 2018, 12:31 AM
Strewth... no wonder he bought 8 of the boxes then.

Rossco also gave me the tip on polishing boots that he learnt from his Navy days... give 'em a polish with Nugget and soiled Lycra (works best on brown leather but black is OK too)

the evil twin

Soiled Lycra works better than panty hose. lol.

DX grunt
10th December 2018, 12:47 AM
@MB

Too late. I use 2 of them in my driving school car.

One for books and cleaning stuff and the other for food (in sealed containers and tinned) and clothes.

Love 'em to bits.

Very well thought out, made, and don't fall to bits.

the evil twin
10th December 2018, 01:22 PM
the evil twin

Soiled Lycra works better than panty hose. lol.

Maybe, maybe not... us RAAFies couldn't afford the Lycra you mob could with that sea going allowance... gotta pity those ex Army dudes, going Commando does have some drawbacks.

Saw your post re the fridges... an Expo box of Tucker, fridge of coldies... almost enough to call it a Kia Kamper

MB
12th December 2018, 08:47 PM
Tools unloaded, two dozen easily Aldi Tiki Tumblers back in....for the kids Christmas Mocktails of course ;-)
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/371.jpg
No Ants getting back in these boxes once locked in @2:00am sticky :-)


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AB
17th December 2018, 06:07 PM
Loving the boxes for pantry goods camping!

I normally use Coles square bags and can confirm the boxes hold 2.5 Coles space bags but it is ten times easier to see your goods in the boxes rather than the deep bags I'm used to.

Winnie
17th December 2018, 06:30 PM
Yep we are packing ours in the house as we speak! Amy is loving it too because of the nearly straight sides.

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FNQGU
27th December 2018, 12:48 PM
Managed to get out for a drive finally, if only to try and take some photos for the next media release showing off the two new colours.

Pouring rain here in Cairns. Rivers starting to flood both North and South. Best go get some essential supplies...


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/426.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dPdPfX)Expedition Camping Box 7 (https://flic.kr/p/2dPdPfX) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/427.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Q42HPz)Expedition Camping Box 12 (https://flic.kr/p/Q42HPz) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/428.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dPdNJX)Expedition Camping Box 10 (https://flic.kr/p/2dPdNJX) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/429.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dPdP9V)Expedition Camping Box 8 (https://flic.kr/p/2dPdP9V) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

Clunk
27th December 2018, 02:22 PM
New colours look great mate

FNQGU
27th December 2018, 05:50 PM
New colours coming out early in January!

We've got some in for review with the 4wd mags now too! Fingers crossed - crunch time!

MudRunnerTD
27th December 2018, 08:02 PM
How good are these things.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/434.jpg

Multi uses

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/435.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/436.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/437.jpg

I mounted one of mine to the roof rack to carry extra recovery gear for the Cape Jaffa Beach trip.. and it might have my remote controlled car in it too.

It is mounted using 8mm zip ties. Aint going anywhere

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/438.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/439.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2018/12/440.jpg



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Winnie
27th December 2018, 08:12 PM
This caravan park is littered with expedition boxes!

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FNQGU
27th December 2018, 08:20 PM
Love it!

Looks like a good time had by all! Make a bloody good washing up dish too!

Bronze rum mugs perhaps?

FNQGU
27th December 2018, 08:21 PM
This caravan park is littered with expedition boxes!

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Thanks mate! Glad to hear it! Love this forum and looks like you guys are all having a blast for Xmas!

Pissing down up here in the North!

MB
5th January 2019, 09:06 PM
A lot of the team are back home now Ben and your boxes were certainly well used over Christmas/New Year mate!
Serious design appreciation by all who owned and we reckon many of those who witnessed them in action at Cape Jaffa SA were as impressed as us all mate!

We left one for a few hours with Kim the local Crayman whilst he prepared our dinner one day.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/15.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/16.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/17.jpg

Safe sealed and an easy waddle back to camp for us without snapping the handle sides off like Bunnings crud.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/18.jpg

The lids easily removed alone back at camp were the true winners for juicy capture without our professional cray breakers legs getting soaked, bloody awesome mate [emoji106][emoji106]!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/19.jpg

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MB
5th January 2019, 09:15 PM
BTW:
Has anybody still over at Cape Jaffa got any pics of how weak Daz’s zippy ties are and how bloody strong Ben’s boxes are?


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FNQGU
6th January 2019, 10:20 AM
Wow! Now that looks like a proper Christmas feed! And with XXXX Gold too! Thought you Vic's only drank that green death stuff that starts fights?

Nice work.

Rossco
6th January 2019, 10:50 AM
BTW:
Has anybody still over at Cape Jaffa got any pics of how weak Daz’s zippy ties are and how bloody strong Ben’s boxes are?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJonno has a wicked video that needs putting up lol. . . JonnoD . .

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Winnie
6th January 2019, 11:00 AM
Jonno has a wicked video that needs putting up lol. . . JonnoD . .

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkDid Nicole catch it on the drone?

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Rossco
6th January 2019, 11:08 AM
Yeah got it on the drone too, will chuck it up although Jonnos is perfect. [emoji6]

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MudRunnerTD
6th January 2019, 10:33 PM
I know nuff'n.....

MudRunnerTD
6th January 2019, 10:40 PM
Great kit!@mb with a makeshift prep area. These stack great!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/78.jpg

Ribs where yummo!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/79.jpg

A friend was looking for something to store the OzPig in!!! Fits PERFECTLY!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/80.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/81.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/82.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/83.jpg

When guest turn up and want to hang around!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/84.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/85.jpg


Someone will habe to explain this??

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/86.jpg

And Crays where Glorious!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/87.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/88.jpg

Lid held a monster with ease!!



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10G
7th January 2019, 12:51 PM
Just stumbled onto this thread today. Congratulations on the box and the interest it's getting.

Any plans to have a lockable version?

Winnie
7th January 2019, 12:57 PM
Just stumbled onto this thread today. Congratulations on the box and the interest it's getting.

Any plans to have a lockable version?This one is lockable, there are provisions for padlocks in the clips.

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10G
7th January 2019, 03:54 PM
This one is lockable, there are provisions for padlocks in the clips.

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Oh, ok, need to go back and take another look. Thanks.

MudRunnerTD
7th January 2019, 04:35 PM
Oh, ok, need to go back and take another look. Thanks.

My friends with the OzPig are the only owners of an RV Vista XLI taking the demo one 2 weeks ago. They where very impressed and will buy 4. The grey one was nearly a perfect colour match of some of the internal trims. It sat perfectly below the cupboard door inside and made a great seat internally with the bed set up.

*edit. Sorry i mixed you up with TimE who is buying an XLI at the moment

TimE
7th January 2019, 05:05 PM
TimE[/MENTION] who is buying an XLI at the moment

:) actually have bought an XLE, the slide out chest fridge model. Lots of custom fit out to the interior, not much like there current demo XLE. It is due for delivery in April. My current 2016 XL (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?44044-2016-Vista-RV-Crossover-XL) is up for sale if anyone is interested ;)

MudRunnerTD
7th January 2019, 05:50 PM
:) actually have bought an XLE, the slide out chest fridge model. Lots of custom fit out to the interior, not much like there current demo XLE. It is due for delivery in April. My current 2016 XL (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?44044-2016-Vista-RV-Crossover-XL) is up for sale if anyone is interested ;)

Ah no worries. Yes they have a fridge in the car too and where happy with an internal fridge. Had a good look at it at cape Jaffa. The only one on the road. There are some teething issues but the build quality is impressive. They are heading back to the dealer next week to hopefully sort through some of the issues. I was less than impressed with the annex/awning! They need to have another go at that!!.

Wrong place for this chat. Sorry FNQGU happy to chat via pm though TimE cheers

FNQGU
7th January 2019, 08:52 PM
all good mate.

FNQGU
27th January 2019, 10:08 AM
Hi Guys,

We've been forced into a bit of a price rise scenario to try and make ends meet. Bit unfortunate, but that's life.

If anyone from the Forum is interested in the boxes though, make sure to contact me direct and I'll work out what we can do.

Hope you are all having a great Australia Day weekend - pissing rain in Cairns although we are still managing kids sleepovers and steaks on the BBQ.

Cremulator
27th January 2019, 03:43 PM
Packing food in these boxes is great, but I just discovered that they fit tall bottles standing upright!
If you line them up with the internal ribbing of the lid they not only fit, but keep the bottle upright even if the box is thrown around a bit.
This realisation made me really happy when we were packing bottles that had already been opened.
These photos show tall and standard wine bottles.
Another practical win for this design.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/269.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/270.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/01/271.jpg

NissanGQ4.2
27th January 2019, 04:30 PM
These photos show tall and standard wine bottles.

Hope that was 2 fuel the Partol, no one in their right mine would drink that stuff *L*

Cremulator
27th January 2019, 04:57 PM
Yep, it's what I call the third tank. It prevents the wife from drinking my beers!

FNQGU
27th January 2019, 05:43 PM
Happened to personally oversee that measurement... Would you believe a 1125 of Bundy also stands there nicely besides a bottle of Jameson...

NissanGQ4.2
27th January 2019, 06:08 PM
Yep, it's what I call the third tank. It prevents the wife from drinking my beers!

Oh boy, I wish I had a third tank, my missus gave up the wine a while back and is now dry, the shit i'm in for still drinking beers, bourbons and anything else alcoholic :(

Clunk
27th January 2019, 09:03 PM
How much would 2 different coloured lids (green and orange) set me back now with shipping to Perth?

FNQGU
28th January 2019, 08:51 AM
I'll take a look mate and PM you.

FNQGU
29th January 2019, 03:46 PM
How much would 2 different coloured lids (green and orange) set me back now with shipping to Perth?

Haven't forgotten you Clunk. We are just having to sort out how to manage requests like these with our 3rd Party Logistics team so packaging is done right.

Clunk
29th January 2019, 07:57 PM
Haven't forgotten you Clunk. We are just having to sort out how to manage requests like these with our 3rd Party Logistics team so packaging is done right.All good mate, no major hurry as we've chucked on some Dymo labels for now..... But coloured lids are much bettered [emoji1].........

Oh and the missus has asked when wheels would be available? She like to store the boxes under the table when camping and would be much easier for her drag them out and in from under the table, although I have told her that she no longer needs to do that to keep stuff dry...... But hey, who am I to argue with the logic, I'm just there to lift heavy stuff [emoji43]

Avo
30th January 2019, 12:45 AM
All good mate, no major hurry as we've chucked on some Dymo labels for now..... But coloured lids are much bettered [emoji1].........

Oh and the missus has asked when wheels would be available? She like to store the boxes under the table when camping and would be much easier for her drag them out and in from under the table, although I have told her that she no longer needs to do that to keep stuff dry...... But hey, who am I to argue with the logic, I'm just there to lift heavy stuff [emoji43]How is a colored lid better than one with a label

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Clunk
30th January 2019, 01:30 AM
How is a colored lid better than one with a label

Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkBecause I don't need to put me glasses on to read a coloured lid [emoji1][emoji41][emoji12]

Touses
12th February 2019, 12:54 PM
Just had the great pleasure to meet Ben. He's heading south on a sales / show run as far as Brisvegas. Down to earth, true blue gent.
Unfortunately no knocking back a few coldies this trip but looking forward to doing so in the future.

FNQGU
12th February 2019, 11:54 PM
Hey!!!

Glad I dropped in mate. Beers on the return trip for sure!

I have to say, I'm just a bit rooted from the drive, but this is the first foray for us into the animal of shows and expos and cold calls on businesses all the way down the Qld coast from Cairns. And to our surprise, TJM is coming on board with this little project in a big way so far and now nearly every store in Qld is stocking or is about to start stocking the Expedition Boxes! The stores in Darwin, Mt Isa, Cairns (of course), Townsville, Mackay, Rockhampton, (hopefully Bundy but they about to start moving location), and lastly the Sunny Coast, have all jumped on board and are now stocking the box! What a huge milestone!

I'm thinking i'll just keep driving South till I link up with MB and AB and a few of the Vics on this forum and see what happens in between.

Had the best night in Clermont when after driving out from Townsville to dodge the flooded Burdelkin River, temps hit 39 degrees between Charters and Clermont and ended in the most spectacular lightning storm I have seen in years.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/96.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2djM8jM)20190210_133352 (https://flic.kr/p/2djM8jM) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/), on Flickr


Finally made it in to the Clermont Hotel Motel (read bottom pub) where the lovely staff waited up for me and handed me two cold stubbies for the unpack as I looked so tired. Just said it all for country hospitality in my books. Those two beers whilst leaning on the still hot bonnet and watching the fading lightning show at the back of the pub were two of the best beers I'd had in years, and they didn't even charge me a cent for them. Got to love that.

Then drove back up to Mackay via the Peak Downs Hwy and Moranbah and the mining country. This was the first time I've ever done that drive for some reason and I really enjoyed it.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/97.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dBxKr1)20190211_064749 (https://flic.kr/p/2dBxKr1) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/), on Flickr

The TJM staff at Mackay were absolutely fantastic too. Super interested and genuinely liked what they were looking at. The Manager there, Denette Trueman, was a gem and really appreciated the visit.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/98.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2djM7X4)20190211_100634 (https://flic.kr/p/2djM7X4) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/), on Flickr

Next surprise was TJM in Rockhampton where Anthony Lacey and his son Mitchell raised the bar. I hadn't even finished explaining the features of the two boxes i had sitting on the floor when Anthony said he was in. He then palmed it all off on young Mitch to then sort out the details! Awesome! I really do like family businesses in regional Australia!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/99.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2eHuFsP)20190211_144422 (https://flic.kr/p/2eHuFsP) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/), on Flickr

It pissed rain coming into Bundy from Miriam Vale, but I had a coldie with Wes Whitworth at the Railway Hotel. Wes is a writer for the Pat Callinan Group, who is currently doing a long term review of the boxes for the mag, and all was good with the world again. Stayed the night at the Railway. I love old pubs and supporting the regional mob and you never know what you are going to get although I think I was the only soul moving at 5:30am that's for sure...
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/100.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2djM7KF)20190212_064321 (https://flic.kr/p/2djM7KF) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/), on Flickr

Love traveling. The early mornings are the best in any new town.

And if anyone is in the vicinity of the Moreton Bay Caravan, Camping, Boating and 4wdriving Expo, come say d'gay. I'm on me lonesome on Friday but hope to have some support for Saturday and Sunday. Use the discount code of OpenSky if you are buying tickets. Not that they cost much. About $10 each from memory.

Cremulator
18th February 2019, 08:43 PM
Great update Ben, good luck with getting them into more stores.
We went away to Echuca for the riverboat music festival last weekend and first time taking two expedition boxes away.
I was very pleased that they stacked well and fitted snugly between the child seat restraint strap and the interior trim in the GU III.
The wife is now referring to the original grey one as 'the pantry' as we use it for all food and kitchen related travel items.http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/120.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/121.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/122.jpg

NissanGQ4.2
19th February 2019, 07:04 PM
And to our surprise, TJM is coming on board with this little project in a big way so far and now nearly every store in Qld is stocking or is about to start stocking the Expedition Boxes!

Awesome news Ben, and the rest at OpenSkyTouring, just don't forget the little guys


I'm thinking i'll just keep driving South till I link up with MB and AB and a few of the Vics on this forum and see what happens in between.

If you travel the long way down to VIC you are more than welcome 2 drop in for a beer or 2 in the Blue Mountains :xxxx::cheers::drunk:

FNQGU
20th February 2019, 10:27 AM
Don't worry, we won't forget the little blokes at all. Despite the somewhat hiked pricing, anyone from the forum can get hold of me directly and we'll work something out.

Didn't manage to get permission from the wife on this occasion to take off and head any further South, but hopefully at some stage...

This was us at the show. No expense spared... Super simple and probably the least prepared of all the exhibitors there, but we learnt a hell of a lot and made some good contacts. By the end of the show we had sold out of the black and orange. Most of these went to people who wanted to combine those colours by swapping the lids, although our neighbours at the show, EzyAnchor, loved the boxes so much they bought a heap for their stock, which certainly helped.

Was amusing though, because on day one, it was blowing a gale, and I had to buy a heap of their guy ropes and drill in pegs, just to keep our marquee on the ground.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/02/129.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24e3Vz8)Expedition134 Show (https://flic.kr/p/24e3Vz8) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

Touses - sorry I missed you for a beer on the way home. I got the summoning call to not dither around and took heed of the warning note in her voice...

Touses
20th February 2019, 10:35 AM
All good mate. Will be opportunities in the future. Maybe a tag along on one of your adventures.

FNQGU
16th April 2019, 08:54 PM
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/04/162.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ftr1eb)IMG_0009 (https://flic.kr/p/2ftr1eb) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/04/163.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/TpP7c7)IMG_0010 (https://flic.kr/p/TpP7c7) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

So.... you think you've packed for a big trip before? This is a setup from one of our Expedition Box users in the Pilbara as he preps for 8 months back in the bush working.

All the tucker is in the boxes.

Gotta love the kegs!

Bacho86
19th April 2019, 04:56 PM
Thought these looked familiar, just saw on Jamie Touring solutions Facebook page from his Canter

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/04/183.jpg


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DX grunt
19th April 2019, 08:44 PM
How is a colored lid better than one with a label

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Avo Clunk

In some of the states I've seen you in, a coloured lid is easier to read than a label. PML

FNQGU
19th April 2019, 08:49 PM
Yeah, we are stoked as they are starting to get around a bit. Simon Christie on 4wdTV is using them, Whatsupdownunder just set up the back of a Patrol with some, Jamie Hazelden is using them on his Aussie Bushman vehicles for his TV series and with a bit of luck, a couple more to come soon.

But, they started here and the forum got the first ones!

BigRAWesty
19th April 2019, 08:58 PM
Yeah, we are stoked as they are starting to get around a bit. Simon Christie on 4wdTV is using them, Whatsupdownunder just set up the back of a Patrol with some, Jamie Hazelden is using them on his Aussie Bushman vehicles for his TV series and with a bit of luck, a couple more to come soon.

But, they started here and the forum got the first ones!G'day mate.
So time I think I help you.
Just bought a pathy and won't be doing draws this time so think I'll need 2 boxes.
One for recover gear and the other camping gear.
What's the stacked height of 2 please mate?
And how much to get 2 of them to kadina, 5554?

Before we rush in though.
Any plans on a half height box??

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FNQGU
19th April 2019, 09:18 PM
Hi Kallen, I'll have to get back to you with stacked height, but they are 325mm high each, so double that and take a few mm off.

Lots of ideas on other sizes, just not the funds to invest yet. We are currently working on some custom tie-down straps at the moment and need to slowly work my way through that idea yet.

Freight to SA is still a flat $20 mate. Doesn't matter if it is one or two boxes. I'm away at work but let me know the colours you'd like and I'll sort a forum price for you.

Touses
20th April 2019, 11:23 AM
G'day mate.
So time I think I help you.
Just bought a pathy and won't be doing draws this time so think I'll need 2 boxes.
One for recover gear and the other camping gear.
What's the stacked height of 2 please mate?
And how much to get 2 of them to kadina, 5554?

Before we rush in though.
Any plans on a half height box??

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Heya bloke.

Just threw a tape over two stacked. 782mm spot on.

BigRAWesty
10th May 2019, 07:04 PM
Heya bloke.

Just threw a tape over two stacked. 782mm spot on.Awesome mate thanks a tone for that.

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FNQGU
10th June 2019, 08:18 PM
Boxes are starting to get a bit of a following. Had them at the Brissy shows and if the stars align with rosters, will make the trip to Perth in November too!

Hey guys, here's my latest half arsed attempt at a video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwt6rYs082c&feature=youtu.be

Thanks to everyone for the support for this idea.

We are working on a tray to fit inside the box next, plus some snazzy custom tie-downs using a MilSpec quick release clip.

Winnie
10th June 2019, 09:18 PM
Boxes are starting to get a bit of a following. Had them at the Brissy shows and if the stars align with rosters, will make the trip to Perth in November too!

Hey guys, here's my latest half arsed attempt at a video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwt6rYs082c&feature=youtu.be

Thanks to everyone for the support for this idea.

We are working on a tray to fit inside the box next, plus some snazzy custom tie-downs using a MilSpec quick release clip.Yeah I've seen they have a pretty large fan base on Facebook lately with some high profile fans! You guys are doing an awesome job.
I will buy another box before our next holiday in January, very keen to see your custom tie down system though as we will be packing two on the roof. Keep us posted on those for sure!

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MudRunnerTD
10th June 2019, 10:04 PM
Yeah I've seen they have a pretty large fan base on Facebook lately with some high profile fans! You guys are doing an awesome job.
I will buy another box before our next holiday in January, very keen to see your custom tie down system though as we will be packing two on the roof. Keep us posted on those for sure!

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Yeah keen to see the tie downs too. I used big Zip ties over christmas last year and they worked great.... right up until i went sand dune jumping.. i lost the box of the roof full of my recovery gear. unmarked. but i need some tie downs for sure.

FNQGU
11th June 2019, 08:20 AM
Yeah keen to see the tie downs too. I used big Zip ties over christmas last year and they worked great.... right up until i went sand dune jumping.. i lost the box of the roof full of my recovery gear. unmarked. but i need some tie downs for sure.

Haha! Would have made a great ad for the box right there mate! Might have to set that one up and video it myself.

MudRunnerTD
11th June 2019, 08:44 AM
Haha! Would have made a great ad for the box right there mate! Might have to set that one up and video it myself.

They may be video evidence. Lol.

Winnie
11th June 2019, 09:19 AM
Haha! Would have made a great ad for the box right there mate! Might have to set that one up and video it myself.I reckon we got it on drone footage... Rossco?

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FNQGU
11th June 2019, 09:26 AM
surprised it hasn't already made it onto the forum.

Winnie
21st September 2019, 05:41 PM
Hi Ben, any word yet on your tie down system?

FNQGU
21st September 2019, 06:24 PM
G'day mate,

Yes, apologies, it has been a long time since an update. In between having to work overseas to earn a crust and doing this in our spare time, things sometimes get forgotten.

We just finished the first run of a grand total of 80 straps, hand-made mind you, in FNQ. We've gone with a 100% Aussie seatbelt webbing, which is really great kit, and a 100% NZ made quick release clip rated at 150kgs. These clips are Mil-spec and will not vibrate loose in any way. I've hung my whole weight off them and had the strap so tight it was singing in the wind, then just hit the quick release and they came off perfectly. They are a really impressive clip and the benefit is that you can't over-tighten like you can with a ratchet strap.

We can also change the steel componentry on these straps as we get feedback from users. They are probably overkill at the moment, but also work well with large as well as small roof bars. Below are two pics from my roofrack from a recent trip to Cape Flattery again. My rack is a mesh one so could hook on anywhere, but Macca was using the straps on the cross bars of his Frontrunner rack and they also worked really well.

I also used a small zip-tie to keep the tag ends nice and neat, which is great for a longer camping trip or a run around Australia, but if it was just a short trip then I would probably just tie them off with half-hitches.

The setup below has now done several thousands of klms on the roof in testing and the boxes don't budge, plus of course allow quick access in and out.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/09/120.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hisxBQ)Tie down 2 (https://flic.kr/p/2hisxBQ) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/), on Flickr

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/09/121.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hivge2)Tie Downs (https://flic.kr/p/2hivge2) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/), on Flickr

Would love to hear your thoughts on them.

NissanGQ4.2
21st September 2019, 06:30 PM
Very nice setup there Ben... one day, at least I have an excuse now the X-Trial has a roof rack

Winnie
21st September 2019, 06:31 PM
Looks awesome mate just what I was hoping for really. Let me know when they are available for purchase and I'll get a couple of sets and another box.

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Cremulator
21st September 2019, 07:28 PM
I'd be interested in these straps too. They look the business.

FNQGU
21st September 2019, 07:46 PM
Crem, they can be run off either side of the box tie down points so don't have to be set like these in the photos. Either way though they will ensure quick release from a roof rack and quick access to the contents of a box when you need it.

I personally like to cross them over like in the pics to stop movement, but there probably other ways to strap them down.

0-TJ-0
21st September 2019, 08:59 PM
Are the clips uv resistant mate? The clips are a good choice but I had some that were on the outside of a camper fall apart after about 18 months and I hardly used it. Just degraded and fell apart in the sun.

It was a chinese jobbie I think, so my bet its that they were just cheap rubbish.

FNQGU
21st September 2019, 09:36 PM
No Chinese jobbie here mate. Everything is built for the outdoors environment and to go the long haul. The clips are awesome and we are very happy with them. In fact, we are currently looking at other applications, and possibly a mod to get them to handle fridge slides too, as once set, there is no movement at all.

Cremulator
22nd September 2019, 08:38 AM
Ben, what's the reasoning behind having a quick release clip vs a fixed buckle?
These look similar to the straps I repurposed from old child care seat extension straps to hold my fridge. They have a quick release buckle that doesn't budge, but allows you to quickly and easily extend the strap while keeping it one piece.
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FNQGU
22nd September 2019, 09:59 AM
Mostly to avoid ratchets that get full of dust and become a pain to use if left on the roof rack for a big trip.

Looks like a similar principle to what you've knocked up there mate. With these clips there is a tab on one part that prevents them from vibrating loose too. If you pull them up tight and then do 5000klms on corrugations, they will still be as tight as when you started. Been very impressed with them.

Cremulator
22nd September 2019, 12:17 PM
I did notice that those clips had a hinged part at the base. That's great that it's a locking function.

MB
22nd September 2019, 03:53 PM
Those quick release tie down straps do look great Ben mate!
Please do keep us posted when they might be available, I’m taking my girls for a 2 week GU wagon adventure overseas next year and have calculated 8 x their clothes boxes of your dust proof design up top on the rack either side of the Oztent Taj Mahal’s down the middle :-)


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Cuppa
23rd September 2019, 06:02 PM
Hi Ben, I reckon I might be interested in some straps to hold our fridges onto their slides.The box got from you is a real winner. MrsTea is much happier with it than the lidded nally box it replaced. It has been in daily use since we left Broome at the beginning of June, has seen *plenty* of dust & simply does the job. Might have to catch up with you in the next month or two. Arrived in Mareeba this morning, will be a bit north of Mossman for a few months.

MudRunnerTD
23rd September 2019, 06:08 PM
Keen on some straps too Ben. Need a Bulk Buy NP.com price mate. We could advertise it in the Members Only section if that works.

FNQGU
24th September 2019, 08:31 AM
Hi Ben, I reckon I might be interested in some straps to hold our fridges onto their slides.The box got from you is a real winner. MrsTea is much happier with it than the lidded nally box it replaced. It has been in daily use since we left Broome at the beginning of June, has seen *plenty* of dust & simply does the job. Might have to catch up with you in the next month or two. Arrived in Mareeba this morning, will be a bit north of Mossman for a few months.

G'day Cuppa, I'll be around the Tablelands today entertaining kids on school holidays. I think we are doing the waterfall circuit and the cheese/chocolate factory at Millaa Millaa / Malanda.
Be great to catch you for a coffee or a coldie while you're in NQ. I'd made up a list of some of the places and a suggested route to take for the Cape area too. Now just have to find it again...

FNQGU
30th September 2019, 10:45 PM
Here we go, trying to be a TV star again...

The things you gotta do. As much as I hate doing it, I really just want to try and be genuine about it and what the box, and ourselves are all about. Would rather be camping and fishing, but anyway.

And yes, the weather was cold and miserable, but I was still wearing shorts and thongs in true NQ style...and had to drag my daughter into a modeling role as well. She loves it too by the way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYY8N9h7v_k&feature=youtu.be

MB
30th September 2019, 11:03 PM
https://openskytouring.com/



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MB
5th November 2019, 02:46 PM
We’ve finally ripped out the stupidly heavy 85kg Titan drawers from the family GU and playing around this afternoon with a new lighter touring setup to come.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/26.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/27.jpg
Previously we could only fit three of Ben’s awesome boxes, now it looks like we have two huge volume options:

#1 Relocate 80L Waeco and strap down nine (yes 9 :-) Expedition Boxes.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/28.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/29.jpg

#2 Make a basic plywood box over 80L Waeco and strap down seven Expedition Boxes.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/30.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/31.jpg

Thinking we’ll move towards option #2 as we will already have many Expedition Boxes up on the roof rack for lightweight clothes and bedding etc...



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FNQGU
5th November 2019, 03:07 PM
Trying to set a new record or something mate? Next you will need some labels so you know what is in them all. Or colour...

threedogs
5th November 2019, 03:14 PM
Not going away as much as I want , but loving my EB [expedition box]
For me and my camping gear its the right size, not huge like others, plys
Im using the complete inside not fill 60mm wall like some others.
Yeah love it will be getting another soon, great box cant really see how to inprove it
Good work keep it up

MB
5th November 2019, 03:27 PM
Trying to set a new record or something mate? Next you will need some labels so you know what is in them all. Or colour...

Loving them too mate, reckon I’ve tried almost every others out there, yours are Tops!
Thinking we’ll let the kids ‘sticker’ up their clothes boxes and ‘label maker’ the rest as our trip packing needs change heaps with different locations, tucker tools etc...

BTW: If you were to Jigsaw a side entry door hole into your black box on the ground, reckon cutie pie pooch would travel super comfy too :-)




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threedogs
5th November 2019, 03:38 PM
Loving them too mate, reckon I’ve tried almost every others out there, yours are Tops!
Thinking we’ll let the kids ‘sticker’ up their clothes boxes and ‘label maker’ the rest as our trip packing needs change heaps with different locations, tucker tools etc...

BTW: If you were to Jigsaw a side entry door hole into your black box on the ground, reckon cutie pie pooch would travel super comfy too :-)




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Thank gawd you said pooch I thought it was dinner
always good fresh lol lol

MB
5th November 2019, 03:55 PM
Well I’ll be buggered, never noticed before that the nesting profile meets the roof rack side rails to perfection!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/32.jpg
A strip of hose/padding should suffice nicely for vibration wear.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/33.jpg
We’re looking to have smaller rated ratchet straps semi-permanently tied to the center of rack and over with ratchets on the outer to hug back and quick release when jocks or socks are needed nightly, maybe daily depending on tracks we attempt:-)
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5th November 2019, 04:13 PM
Today’s pre-trip/mock-up completed!
Six Expedition Boxes up top will well and truly do us for clothes, bedding etc..
Plenty of room down the middle for the Oztent RV5 & Tagalong with room to spare at the back for bagged chairs, happy days, thanks again Ben mate[emoji106][emoji106]
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Rossco
5th November 2019, 04:25 PM
Nice one Markie, plenty of room for those hair dryers and straighteners. .

Another happy customer here with my lightweight setup. . .

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/36.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/37.jpg

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MB
5th November 2019, 04:31 PM
mudski mate, who was the mob again that did your GU GVM upgrade?
Counting up 13 loaded boxes total now at 15kg allowance each and we’re getting close if not over I’m hoping not.
Think I read somewhere max 150kg on our wagon rooves too?


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PeeBee
5th November 2019, 04:59 PM
4x4 Obsession MB,

FNQGU
5th November 2019, 05:14 PM
Loving them too mate, reckon I’ve tried almost every others out there, yours are Tops!
Thinking we’ll let the kids ‘sticker’ up their clothes boxes and ‘label maker’ the rest as our trip packing needs change heaps with different locations, tucker tools etc...

BTW: If you were to Jigsaw a side entry door hole into your black box on the ground, reckon cutie pie pooch would travel super comfy too :-)




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I've found a Paint Pen works well on them too.

The wife's lap dog loves the trips. Just can't take her anywhere in croc country.

MB
5th November 2019, 05:38 PM
Awesome, Paint Pen for the easier win thanks Ben mate!
Maybe just a light ‘Jex’ scrub off in between relabelling adventures could hopefully work?


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Winnie
5th November 2019, 06:51 PM
Hey Ben, how far off are the tie downs from being available?

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mudski
5th November 2019, 09:15 PM
mudski mate, who was the mob again that did your GU GVM upgrade?
Counting up 13 loaded boxes total now at 15kg allowance each and we’re getting close if not over I’m hoping not.
Think I read somewhere max 150kg on our wagon rooves too?


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4x4 Obsession MB,


What Phil said... :)

MB
5th November 2019, 09:24 PM
Apologies Ben mate! mudski old mate, what sort of coin are we looking at roughly to upgrade GVM for the mostest boxes?
Landcrusier versus Y61/2 rooftop allowances ?




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mudski
5th November 2019, 09:34 PM
Apologies Ben mate! mudski old mate, what sort of coin are we looking at roughly to upgrade GVM for the mostest boxes?
Landcrusier versus Y61/2 rooftop allowances ?




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Not sure sorry mate. My Patrol was fully engineered. From memory Brett at 4x4 Obsession said thats the only way they do it. The entire lot, then theres no future issues. I think I paid circa $1600...

FNQGU
5th November 2019, 09:41 PM
Hey Ben, how far off are the tie downs from being available?

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Winnie, we are still sorting out packaging mate, but if you really need some earlier, I can just send you a few. Only have 80 odd in a box in my garage, so we aren't geared up for everyone but you're a special case... :-)

FNQGU
6th November 2019, 01:26 PM
This is what happens when we have a couple of rums and then get sprung with an interview situation. A bit of a yarn about how it all started. For your amusement.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1xuc6G8-r8

Clunk
6th November 2019, 10:43 PM
Gday Ben, are any of your distributors in WA going to have these at the Perth 4wd & Adventure show this weekend?

FNQGU
6th November 2019, 10:58 PM
Yes mate, Go Camping and Overland will have them. Aaron is the man. And a really nice little setup they have over there too.

Also check with Norweld. Isaac is the man to see there. He might have a few in his grey truck. Nice bit of kit that too.

Clunk
6th November 2019, 11:59 PM
Yes mate, Go Camping and Overland will have them. Aaron is the man. And a really nice little setup they have over there too.

Also check with Norweld. Isaac is the man to see there. He might have a few in his grey truck. Nice bit of kit that too.Cheers bud, will be going on Saturday, just been lazy and haven't checked who the vendors are yet.

Clunk
9th November 2019, 05:16 PM
Opposite Lock are selling them for $129 at the Perth 4WD Show this weekend. Would have bought a couple more but spent me money on a new set of tyres for the Paj

FNQGU
10th November 2019, 12:36 AM
Cool, that's about as good a price as you'll ever find mate. Shoulda grabbed em.

Clunk
10th November 2019, 02:02 PM
Cool, that's about as good a price as you'll ever find mate. Shoulda grabbed em.Coulda, shoulda... needed tyres [emoji6][emoji3061]

MB
14th November 2019, 06:10 PM
The old faithful Korean BBQ finally dropped its idler bearing and requires some more TLC....no stress, just throw a few boxes maybe needed onboard the empty bog stock GQ tray rear :-)
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/96.jpg
Crikey they do fit perfectly left to right, just need to work out how to convert the middle one to any Esky/Chilly Bin- NZ :-)


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MudRunnerTD
14th November 2019, 06:15 PM
The old faithful Korean BBQ finally dropped its idler bearing and requires some more TLC....no stress, just throw a few boxes maybe needed onboard the empty bog stock GQ tray rear :-)
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/96.jpg
Crikey they do fit perfectly left to right, just need to work out how to convert the middle one to any Esky/Chilly Bin- NZ :-)


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nice spanner set :p

MB
14th November 2019, 06:50 PM
Dead set should’ve bought 2 x ratchet ring set bargains thanks again mate!
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mudski
14th November 2019, 08:54 PM
Dead set should’ve bought 2 x ratchet ring set bargains thanks again mate!
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Yeah they’re fecking good aye! Thanks for the heads up Darren.


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Hodge
18th November 2019, 09:58 AM
Does anybody by any chance stock these in Melbourne ??

FNQGU
20th November 2019, 08:24 AM
G'day Hodge,

You could try Opposite Lock. They had a stack of them but not sure where they are up to now with that.

Alternatively we just freight them out at a flat rate of $20 on the East Coast.

Hodge
20th November 2019, 11:10 AM
G'day Hodge,

You could try Opposite Lock. They had a stack of them but not sure where they are up to now with that.

Alternatively we just freight them out at a flat rate of $20 on the East Coast.Cheers mate.
I wanted one possibly on that day to show our managers how they can properly deck out some of our new fleet with your tubs.
But the morrons have since got onto el cheapo bunnings ones , which won't last a week...
Opposite lock Epping is up the road from me so I'll pop in there anyway and have a look / grab one for my self.

Thanks again.

FNQGU
20th November 2019, 01:13 PM
No worries. Let me know if they don't have any. We haven't really got a permanent reseller in Melbourne/Victoria yet and need to work something out down that way.

Avo
20th November 2019, 10:59 PM
Packed em up for schoolies...no camping pics as.little miss got a little pissed..http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/141.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/142.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2019/11/143.jpg

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FNQGU
21st November 2019, 08:22 AM
nice little camp oven - what breed is that little fella?

Avo
25th November 2019, 12:27 PM
nice little camp oven - what breed is that little fella?It's a little 4.5qt campfire brand from bcf,good size for a couple of lamb shanks n vegies,or even rice
Cheers

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MB
7th January 2020, 09:33 PM
A free awning although quality wise aint even close to the same league!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/79.jpg
Problem solved :-)
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MB
7th January 2020, 09:43 PM
300mm spacings between all found shed straps in a rush seems to work for tonights rooftop near final shakedown.
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MudRunnerTD
8th January 2020, 09:00 AM
A free awning although quality wise aint even close to the same league!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/79.jpg
Problem solved :-)
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Thank God!!! I was gunna push it off the boat half way across Bass Straight mate!!! Bloody Hell!! Just dragged the whole team down!! Looking much better.

0-TJ-0
8th January 2020, 09:37 AM
A free awning although quality wise aint even close to the same league!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/79.jpg
Problem solved :-)
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Those awnings don't stop a great deal of UV @MB. Just in case you're ever planning on spending a long and hot NYE under it.. Take your sunscreen as well!

MB
10th January 2020, 10:11 PM
Reconfigured the old family wagon this afternoon since removing the Titan 85kg drawers a month or so ago now.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/117.jpg
Managed to squeeze in so far:
80L Waeco old fridge
26L Engel freezer
2 x 20L HDPE water jerry cans
1 x camp stove
1 x camp table
1 x 120W Waeco old solar kit
&
4 x Expedition boxes up top.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/118.jpg
Will fill in all the leftover nooks and crannies tomorrow now with bits and bobs and reckon sleeping bags and self inflator mattresses should jam up on top of 3 x Expedition boxes to the ceiling before dropping in the final fourth awesome box!
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MB
10th January 2020, 10:12 PM
Approximately 1.5 sheets of ply used, and is relatively easy to install/remove if need be as long as you have the left barn door aftermarket bracket to open wider than stupid GU OEM design!
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MB
10th January 2020, 10:14 PM
Forgot to add that I needed to extend forward 80mm this specific brand GU cargo barrier to fit the second rear row of Expedition boxes.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/123.jpg
They fit like a pair of good gloves now [emoji106][emoji106]
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FWIW: The ply box outer dimensions today were:
1125mm Wide x 930mm Deep x 540mm High and used 3 of the 6mm OEM bolt holes in the floor to secure down.
(There is a niggly notch on the floor sheet test first before building that needs to be cut out located on the right side pictured below)
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FNQGU
11th January 2020, 11:23 AM
Nice work! What sort of weight saving do you think you've achieved? There'd still be a bit of weight in the ply setup.

MB
11th January 2020, 02:14 PM
Not exactly sure Ben mate but I’d say 50kgish difference between Titan drawers and ply.
I’ve added that back in and then some more now with heaps of gear though :-)



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MB
11th January 2020, 06:45 PM
Decided to give the little Engel freezer some better heat release holes as its motor is on the rear exhausting upwards unlike the Waeco exhausting to rear barn door gaps.
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Perfect gap found between the two rows of Expedition boxes and directly above the Engel exhaust.
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MB
11th January 2020, 06:51 PM
Some 12mm x 12mm aluminium angle from Bunnings seems to stop the slide left and right.
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Sleeping bags jammed hard on top of the first row and against the rear cage seem to negate the need for strapping down.
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AB
11th January 2020, 07:52 PM
All packed ready for an adventure, my Gq looks like an expedition box touring advertising festival bonanza lol

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Winnie
11th January 2020, 09:08 PM
Here's another big fan of the boxes! Happy knowing my gear will be dry and dust free.
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mudski
11th January 2020, 09:09 PM
Yer have fun guys. A bit jelly atm....


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matfew
13th January 2020, 10:44 PM
2 up front worked well on mine last hint. Kept the bugs off the rooftop tent.

Cable ties holding them on with just a cautionary ratchet strap while travelling which I am tempted to dump they haven't moved yet and only got cloths in themhttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/161.jpg

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FNQGU
14th January 2020, 10:22 AM
AB - Planning some serious 'wiping' time?

matfew
14th January 2020, 05:09 PM
Just wait till Saturday we will do a line up of all the cars with expedition boxes all over haha.

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Touses
14th January 2020, 05:16 PM
AB - Planning some serious 'wiping' time?

They're all to tidy up the a'holes who give him shite on the forum!:biggrin:

MudRunnerTD
23rd January 2020, 11:25 PM
So i blew a water pump in Tassie. This box made the job much much easier!!! Thanks Gents.

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MudRunnerTD
23rd January 2020, 11:28 PM
mattfew looking for his undies!!!

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FNQGU
24th January 2020, 09:02 AM
mattfew looking for his undies!!!

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matfew - you using them for clothes etc. up there?

Pretty handy set up. haven't seen them used like that before but works well with your RTT.

matfew
24th January 2020, 06:31 PM
Yeah it's worked great while over here in tassie. Only 1 issue was in the rain it went straight into the wife's "wardrobe" when she opened it haha. Come off the roof of the tent just as she opened it up.

No dust no water have been awesome.

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FNQGU
25th January 2020, 08:25 AM
Just a heads up, but if anyone is interested, we are running a sale over on the website at the moment for Aussie Day.

https://openskytouring.com/

We are also still looking for a reseller in Melbourne and Adelaide (or anywhere) if anyone knows any good Aussie businesses that might be interested.

MB
26th January 2020, 05:58 PM
Hands down, honestly the best camping boxes on the market by far, thanks heaps again Ben Mate!

We’ve just smashed nearly 1,800km across Tasmania in 2 weeks with the majority in either LR mountain chalkie dust as tail end charlie and or sandblasted higher speed magnificent west coast beaches albeit we scored some serious horizontal Indian Antarctic precipitation on last beach run days :-)

Zero dust or water inside our 4x rooftop family clothing Expedition boxes, couldn’t be happier myself and fully endorsed expenditure now from Mrs MB [emoji106][emoji106]

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Winnie
26th January 2020, 06:24 PM
Hands down, honestly the best camping boxes on the market by far, thanks heaps again Ben Mate!

We’ve just smashed nearly 1,800km across Tasmania in 2 weeks with the majority in either LR mountain chalkie dust as tail end charlie and or sandblasted higher speed magnificent west coast beaches albeit we scored some serious horizontal Indian Antarctic precipitation on last beach run days :-)

Zero dust or water inside our 4x rooftop family clothing Expedition boxes, couldn’t be happier myself and fully endorsed expenditure now from Mrs MB [emoji106][emoji106]

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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYep, I had both boxes on the roof and contents were clean and dry.
Wish I could say the same about the contents of the canvas roof bag! (user error possibly)

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MB
26th January 2020, 06:40 PM
FWIW: Oztenties and teenager Tagalong’s are great for fast family spacious adventures although their ingenious creators do need to sit down with Ben for a quick lesson on real life weather proofing in transit!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/232.jpg
Their rooftop carry bags are as useless as tits on a bull and do require a final home base setup before dry storage unlike all our other bone dry yet stinky sealed worn clobber :-)
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Winnie
26th January 2020, 07:05 PM
FWIW: Oztenties and teenager Tagalong’s are great for fast family spacious adventures although their ingenious creators do need to sit down with Ben for a quick lesson on real life weather proofing in transit!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/232.jpg
Their rooftop carry bags are as useless as tits on a bull and do require a final home base setup before dry storage unlike all our other bone dry yet stinky sealed worn clobber :-)
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/233.jpg




Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat is interesting Mark, mine was perfectly dry inside (zips facing down in transit)

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MB
26th January 2020, 07:13 PM
Uncovered, I’m a bed wetterer :-(


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MB
26th January 2020, 07:45 PM
Off Forum sibling Legend damage discussions together next Hill over reports : -)

#GQ & GU Wagooons [emoji106][emoji106]
# Expedition Boxes [emoji106][emoji106]
# Adult Zempire Mostamat & Blackwolf Doubles [emoji106][emoji106]
# Littlens Denali single 6cm inflators [emoji106][emoji106]
# Oztentie carry bags, both flooded [emoji107][emoji107]

AA+ 2.2m Long Expedition Box is the GO [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]





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FNQGU
27th January 2020, 11:51 AM
Off Forum sibling Legend damage discussions together next Hill over reports : -)

AA+ 2.2m Long Expedition Box is the GO [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

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2.2meter?? As in - full length of the roof rack?

The cost of that mould would probably mean I go back to baked beans and tinned peas and corn for about 3 years...

Thanks for all the great feedback lads. Hope you're all happy if I cross post a bit of that onto FB and Insta as always. NP Forum get plenty of wraps in our posts. Part of the family!

Avo
27th January 2020, 05:41 PM
We love em,don't worry about Mrs happy pants,was stirring her up because miss 16 n I set tent up,which was a first so I had to take a photo http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/01/236.jpg

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FNQGU
27th January 2020, 05:52 PM
"Mrs Happy Pants"!! Gold! :-)

MB
2nd February 2020, 06:00 PM
Post trip reconfiguring our family wagons roof again after a recent shared awesome Tasmania West Coast Adventure!
AB (Administrator Bossman) has kindly today gifted us a much much lighter weight aluminium rack than our steel cheapo supercentre heavy paddock version used on Mrs MB’s GU over the years.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/02/8.jpg
Was the touring weight somewhat severe off-angles getting out of Balfour Track to the coast on 16psi that really makes one consider every needed kilogram leaning atop :-)

Not sure whether you meant it Ben mate but does appear your Expedition Boxes and Rhino Racks are an aluminium support plank match made in heaven [emoji106][emoji106]

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Are really keen for some semi-permanent tie-down advice too Ben mate as I’m currently thinking of leaving the boxes on top all next trip and having those lightweight type clothes bags inside each so we can just unlatch the lids only and yoink out the girls kits each night, and or easily access their undies after kissing track side banks :-)







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MB
2nd February 2020, 07:11 PM
Crikey, there aint no flys on you Ben mate!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/02/13.jpg

Just Nuffy worked out that conjoined/connected they can share a crisscrossed tie-down [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

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FNQGU
7th February 2020, 11:10 AM
Good one @MB. I have previously used both rope and ratchet straps to good effect for semi-permanent mountings ontop. If using a ratchet strap, simply feed it through the tie-down points and run it underneath the lip of the box to the other side, out through the tie down point and back to the roof rack. I did a dodgy YouTube clip on it a while back, see below. Just pull the strap out of the ratchet so you can feed it through, then put it back into the ratchet once it is out the otherside. Two ratchet straps per box work well. You might even be able to use one if you had a longer version and mucked around a bit with it but I never tried that. Just don't over tighten the ratchet as it could pull down too hard and pull the box down away from the seal. I don't think it would, but I'd be cautious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208zyQHhCiY

Those types of roof racks sometimes don't offer much in the way of tie-down points though so you may have to make something work. I went with a mesh flat deck on my own rack so I never had to look for a hooking point.

MB
7th February 2020, 01:08 PM
Awesome, thanks Ben!
I’ll hopefully get some time soon to have a go at those video ideas[emoji106][emoji106]


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FNQGU
6th March 2020, 05:28 PM
Hey Guys,

We are going to be going to the Brisbane 4X4 show if anyone is around and wanting to meet up. I know lots of Forum tag names but would love to say g'day if you are a Brisbaneite and going to the show.

80585

Cremulator
9th March 2020, 11:28 AM
Hey Guys,

We are going to be going to the Brisbane 4X4 show if anyone is around and wanting to meet up. I know lots of Forum tag names but would love to say g'day if you are a Brisbaneite and going to the show.

80585Are you going to be at the one in Melbourne in August Ben? I'd definitely be interested in going to that!

FNQGU
9th March 2020, 11:35 AM
Would love to, but not sure we can make Melbourne this year. Super costly exercise.

That and all the chatter on remote desert trips stimulated by 10G has me thinking I need to nick off and go do the Madigan line around then.

Cremulator
9th March 2020, 09:22 PM
Fair enough ;)

Maxhead
10th March 2020, 12:17 PM
Well, I reckon the boys designed these boxes to fit my tray perfectly.
Couldn’t ask for a better fit[emoji106][emoji106]

Anyway, I got rid of one big box and replaced with 3 of these..much more flexibility and one will double up as a step for Fiona to fetch me beers without winging she can’t reach the fridge...no excuses anymore[emoji23]

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MudRunnerTD
11th March 2020, 04:51 PM
Well, I reckon the boys designed these boxes to fit my tray perfectly.
Couldn’t ask for a better fit[emoji106][emoji106]

Anyway, I got rid of one big box and replaced with 3 of these..much more flexibility and one will double up as a step for Fiona to fetch me beers without winging she can’t reach the fridge...no excuses anymore[emoji23]

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Looks like a perfect fit mate. I note you are missing a few clips? did you Leave them off on purpose?

FNQGU
11th March 2020, 05:04 PM
Nah, that was our bad. We are currently using a 3rd Party Logistics agent to pack and send our stuff and they f..'d it up. They are on the way now though!

Maxhead
11th March 2020, 06:04 PM
Yeah what ^^he said...lol


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Brissieboy
12th March 2020, 03:08 PM
Been looking for a low profile (around 200-250mm high) storage box or two to go my racks but they all seem to be much larger sizes.
Seen anything around?

Cremulator
12th March 2020, 07:18 PM
Only something like this: http://www.outdoortactical.com.au/5.11-hard-case-50-foam
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/03/28.jpg

Brissieboy
13th March 2020, 10:12 AM
Only something like this: http://www.outdoortactical.com.au/5.11-hard-case-50-foam
Thanks. That sort of thing is all I could find as well. Not really suitable for roof mounting. I'll keep looking.

Cremulator
13th March 2020, 07:10 PM
Thanks. That sort of thing is all I could find as well. Not really suitable for roof mounting. I'll keep looking.If you have a look at the YouTube channel Sidetracked, one of the guys had a GU with a front runner roof rack and has one of these cases mounted to it.
He drilled some holes through the base and bolted it from the underside with lock nuts inside the case.

FNQGU
13th March 2020, 07:20 PM
Yeah, I don't think there is a lot of low profile stuff around.

Spacecase do a low profile version but even that might be slightly higher than you are looking for.

Hodge
13th March 2020, 07:28 PM
Been looking for a low profile (around 200-250mm high) storage box or two to go my racks but they all seem to be much larger sizes.
Seen anything around?

Might sound stupid. But have a look at some guitar cases going around. If a suitable one was to be found, just rip the original foam casing out and reline it with something of your chooice. One of my guitar cases is un-destructible. Unsure how they would fair out in the weather though.

Brissieboy
14th March 2020, 11:25 AM
Might sound stupid. But have a look at some guitar cases going around. If a suitable one was to be found, just rip the original foam casing out and reline it with something of your chooice. One of my guitar cases is un-destructible. Unsure how they would fair out in the weather though.

Seen a few made for various specialty uses. Best option I have seen so far are the ones used for tools/took kits as they are quite solid. Some aren't moulded and just have foam lining that can be easily removed, but most are not water and dust proof. This one looks like OK and is my pick so far, but will have a look in-store first.
https://www.tradetools.com/product-range/tool-storage/poly-boxes/renegade-industrial-medium-duty-waterproof-storage-case?SearchId=23980959&SearchPos=1
Thanks everyone for the ideas.

Cremulator
31st May 2020, 10:39 PM
This box keeps giving. I just tried a child seat hook on the corners and it fits perfectly.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/05/177.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/05/178.jpgThis could be useful if you run a strap through the hook, then you could relieve tension on the strap and unclip the box. The hooks have a little sprung safety catch too.
We've got hard rubbish in our area this weekend and I just wandered around a collected three of these hooks. I've got 5 in total now that I use for tie downs.

Winnie
1st June 2020, 07:59 AM
Good comment about the box that always gives.
Have a look at how well an ozpig fits inside.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/06/1.jpg

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FNQGU
8th June 2020, 07:16 PM
That is a handy fit, for sure.

Good one.

DX grunt
18th June 2020, 07:26 PM
Hi guys, apologies for no updates recently. Been absent due to declining health and eventual passing of my Dad. Starting to get back on track now though.

We've finalised the design of the first box at 55 litres (578mmx440mmx342mm). We've got a plan to design a series of box sizes now that compete with the Space Cases and Tuff boxes etc. but that actually seal properly, have no metal parts, are designed for the 4wd, camping and quad bike market primarily, but also the marine industry etc. We also want to price these realistically and think we can do this.

Its been a steep learning curve for sure and we have had some fantastic support from the likes of Brad McCarthy from MaxTrax and Michael McMillan from Australian Expedition Vehicles amongst others. Yes, it does have tapered sides and an outside lip but this is necessary for Injection Moulding to work properly. Tapering the sides was a big decision to make, but a vertical sided box with the lip on the outside would also 'waste' that space in between boxes. It's all a compromise. Tapering brought significant cost savings too. Mostly in freight because the boxes will 'nest' when stacked in towers on a pallet or when empty and stacked in the side of the shed at home. We did however keep the taper absolutely minimised and put a step in it for strength and to keep the sides as vertical as possible but still smooth for easy wiping out.

The lids come off and will also stack nicely on top of each other. The box is also lockable with three different size padlocks in two places.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/06/7.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/UN4Emm)PastedGraphic-16 (https://flic.kr/p/UN4Emm) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2017/06/8.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VoiXWp)PastedGraphic-15 (https://flic.kr/p/VoiXWp) by Ben Kincade (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147529924@N07/),

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The grip area on the ends of the box has been loaded with ribs to prevent fingers jamming and also to add strength to the lip.

You can also see the tie-down points on each corner. These are for turn-buckles or ropes. They are 12mm wide, reinforced and rounded off so ropes won't wear on square edges. Using these points means you can access the box contents without having to undo ratchet straps, another reason for the lip on the outside.

The lid profile also retains ratchet straps in place in the grooves, as well as facilitates stacking of other boxes so they won't move around.

If anyone has any further suggestions I am all ears. We are getting really keen to bust out a prototype and test it all.

I'd love to see a box made into a fishing box. It should last forever. Saw the lift out tray and immediately thought of a fishing box.

In WA it's law to wear life jackets in some areas whilst rock fishing and I believe voluntary to tie off to tie down points, which I do.
One of your boxes is dedicated to a life jacket, rated rope, and other stuff.

If you can design a fishing box, I'd buy one, for sure.

I love the 8 that I purchased during your initial order. Bargin!

Well done, keep up the fantastic work, and "Thank you"

MB
18th June 2020, 11:31 PM
Bloody useless things, tucker is always safe & well but they do need ankle cushions designed in atop for us softy’s out there :-)
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DX grunt
19th June 2020, 08:36 AM
Bloody useless things, tucker is always safe & well but they do need ankle cushions designed in atop for us softy’s out there :-)
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MB Stop walking around in bare feet. You need softer heals, so don't forget to moisturise. lol

FNQGU
22nd June 2020, 02:49 PM
We are thinking about another size now too. Have had a fair few calls requesting both larger and smaller versions. Trays that fit inside was another one.

DX grunt - there are some lure boxes that fit nicely in the boxes standing up on their sides. Can't remember now who was doing that with them, but they managed to fit about five or six across.

MB
22nd June 2020, 10:04 PM
Great to hear they’re progressing well Ben Mate, we all absolutely love our first editions for sure, thanking you!
As mentioned way back, used to buy 900mm long space case thingymebobs and now find your standard as is current size 600mm ish with its near vertical walls and flat floor and raised lid inner fit tucker especially better than others out there over 50% larger and most awkwardly heavy to carry.
If there were to be any available future models in the works I’d personally be keen on the exact same size footprint with maybe a half size height.
Theory I guess from current usage would be that heavy canned type tucker items could be halved in carry weight over two Expedition Boxes that stacked equal the same neighbouring original height boxes beside if that makes sense?
Slimline versions I’m thinking could also sell well for atop of roof racks and under false cargo floors or the like, hopefully could be achieved from the same mold temporarily blanked on runs somehow maybe?




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Plasnart
23rd June 2020, 11:18 AM
Great to hear they’re progressing well Ben Mate, we all absolutely love our first editions for sure, thanking you!
As mentioned way back, used to buy 900mm long space case thingymebobs and now find your standard as is current size 600mm ish with its near vertical walls and flat floor and raised lid inner fit tucker especially better than others out there over 50% larger and most awkwardly heavy to carry.
If there were to be any available future models in the works I’d personally be keen on the exact same size footprint with maybe a half size height.
Theory I guess from current usage would be that heavy canned type tucker items could be halved in carry weight over two Expedition Boxes that stacked equal the same neighbouring original height boxes beside if that makes sense?
Slimline versions I’m thinking could also sell well for atop of roof racks and under false cargo floors or the like, hopefully could be achieved from the same mold temporarily blanked on runs somehow maybe?




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Yes I'd be keen on a slimline version too. I have approx 300mm space between the top of my drawers and the top of the rear door opening. I carry plastic containers of utensils, cooking equipment etc when camping on top of the drawers. The lids are flimsy, cracked and broken but I still use them. Your original version was too tall for the space I've got so I couldn't go through with a purchase. But I'd be up for a couple of max 300mm top-to-bottom versions.

FNQGU
23rd June 2020, 11:59 AM
Cheers guys. Playing with designs so that a slim line would still lock onto the lids of the larger boxes in the same way they do now. Same lid features and tie down points and same flat smooth interior. It will probably come in around 32 litres instead of 55 litres.

Still thinking through it.

Cremulator
24th June 2020, 11:01 AM
Cheers guys. Playing with designs so that a slim line would still lock onto the lids of the larger boxes in the same way they do now. Same lid features and tie down points and same flat smooth interior. It will probably come in around 32 litres instead of 55 litres.

Still thinking through it.

I like @MB's suggestion, a slimline height option would be great. Something that fits into the existing 55L when empty but uses the same lid would be very useful.
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FNQGU
28th June 2020, 06:24 AM
Thanks Crem, and yes, that is pretty much what we have in mind at the moment.

NissanGQ4.2
26th July 2020, 08:00 PM
Congrats 2 the guys at Open Sky Touring for breaking into the US market. Well done guys

FNQGU
26th July 2020, 10:07 PM
Hey Guys! Thanks heaps for that. And I have to apologise for not being online much lately. It is by far not an easy road in these times and I had been stuck at work in PNG for nearly 4 months before finally getting home. But yes, Mule Expedition Outfitters in Seattle have just bought a container of 400 boxes after an intro from Issac at Norweld. Can't thank Norweld enough to be honest. Isaac has made his mark in Aus and is making his mark in the US, and is just super happy to help out other NQ businesses, and Aussies, having a crack! We are about to joint ship a container with Southern Metal Spinners out of SA to send X134 boxes and Bedourie Ovens to the US market. Exciting times in amongst all the doom and gloom!

In other news...besides China seemingly wanting to rule the world, if anyone loves their tucker and is looking for some proper Aussie Pepper, check out Aussie Pepper! I found this stuff by accident and no shit, if you have never had FRESH cracked pepper, let alone Aussie grown and harvested stuff, get this stuff into your tucker box. I could not believe the difference and you won't either. I should start a thread on it because it is that dam good. NQ grown and all! Back Aussie made!

MB
27th July 2020, 10:09 PM
Congratulations Ben Mate!
Deservingly Kicking Goals Brother!!
A three month stint ourselves now finished too out and across NSW.
Only three things our little team could rely on day to day:
# 6 cylinder 8.3L Cummins
# 6 cylinder 4.2L Nissan
# Everything else (including jocks & socks) guaranteed protected within Expedition 134 boxes [emoji106][emoji106]

https://openskytouring.com/

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Avo
27th July 2020, 11:58 PM
Funny you say that,deep South rain and not enough room in car for everything,packed expedition boxes with clothes n the stuff you really don't want wet.....put it in the boathttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/07/176.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/07/177.jpg

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MB
28th July 2020, 12:19 AM
No Bullshit, how good are they Old Mate [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]


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Avo
28th July 2020, 12:27 AM
Heaps good....first n last 1000km of out trip,this was nearly 1300km from home.n still look in angry...wet wet wet....our gear was dry dry dryhttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2020/07/180.jpg

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FNQGU
28th July 2020, 01:59 PM
Cheers guys!

Been playing with some new labeling too. Don't like the blue, and the orange isn't quite right, but you get the idea!


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MB
6th August 2020, 02:38 PM
Congratulations Ben Mate!
Just received an email from a new distributor of yours, I think I signed up with them a few years back when purchasing little Engels direct from their Ferntree Gully - Vic store.
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FNQGU
6th August 2020, 03:29 PM
Awesome! Yes, they are stocking them Nationwide now. We are stoked.

Lots of fun stuff in the works now too. We hope to have a few more announcements shortly with a bit of luck.

MB
7th August 2020, 10:08 PM
You heard it first here folks, thanks heaps always Ben Mate!
Open Skies, There is NO Limits :-)[emoji106][emoji106]


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MB
5th September 2020, 06:53 PM
Found a fun way to make a few extra after hours delivery dollars thanks to Expedition 134 :-)
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Honestly can’t wait for the release of Ben’s new Slimline model to come for handle bar dessert cartage needs throughout the hills [emoji106][emoji106]
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Plasnart
5th September 2020, 07:01 PM
Found a fun way to make a few extra after hours delivery dollars thanks to Expedition 134 :-)
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Honestly can’t wait for the release of Ben’s new Slimline model to come for handle bar dessert cartage needs throughout the hills [emoji106][emoji106]
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Hahaha need the chainy to cut them up mate? Maybe more yeast in the base dough? :D classic mate!

MB
6th September 2020, 12:22 AM
Will carefully suggest to our Godfather in Italy mate :-)

http://www.mbpizza.it/

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FNQGU
7th September 2020, 09:54 AM
Wow! Good one mate. Looks solid on there. How did you mount it? Did you use the re-inforced drill points or did they not line up with where you needed the holes?

MB
7th September 2020, 11:35 AM
Just an easy agricultural adapter plate out of some formply floating around the shed mate :-)
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AB
7th September 2020, 12:05 PM
Just an easy agricultural adapter plate out of some formply floating around the shed mate :-)
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Corona times hey :)

MB
7th September 2020, 01:00 PM
Yep, will fit a box or two of them on the back now no worries mate....wheelie time :-)


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FNQGU
7th September 2020, 05:54 PM
Just an easy agricultural adapter plate out of some formply floating around the shed mate :-)
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Did you use a large washer on the inside of the box? we put that Circle there so a large washer would pull down against it and spread the load directly through to the surface below the box. Shouldn't split the box that way and hopefully it retains its weather seal and has a solid mounting to boot.

MB
7th September 2020, 07:21 PM
Haven’t as yet mate but do intend to under the already large cup heads once I’m allowed back into Bunnings next year hopefully :-)


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FNQGU
24th September 2020, 07:52 PM
You made our Monthly Newsletter with your Pizza Delivery bike too mate!

MB
24th September 2020, 08:22 PM
Happy Days Ben Mate!
Just read other super most exciting Expedition 134 news brother on ‘THE ROCK’ he is a true mover & shaker much like your good self [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]


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FNQGU
24th September 2020, 08:46 PM
Physically similar...not sure he is as much of a mover and shaker though. LOL!

MB
24th September 2020, 09:03 PM
Just gets said shit done by my nuffy definition of the terms both Legends!


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Hodge
10th November 2020, 05:30 PM
Great to see Tim Bates jumping onboard with these boxes.
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FNQGU
25th February 2021, 09:28 PM
G'day guys, and thanks Toddy for the ping on messenger this arvo, it has been a few tough months for us and I appreciated the inquiry. Hopefully, things will work themselves out in the near future. Yes, we are out of stock and probably won't have anything for a bit yet. I did send out a bit of an update to our email subscribers a few days back that I know some of you are on, but in a nutshell, we had some very poor manufacturing results from a large 3rd party manufacturer we had been using, and it has had a dramatic effect on us as a small business. We ended up having to pull everything that was substandard and have contacted anyone we thought might have copped a dud. This included a container load of boxes that were sent to the United States which will cost us a bomb to replace, but hey, do it right, right? We discussed it with our ex-manufacturer and eventually got a refund on part of our production run for the dud boxes, but not so much as an apology. Some motherf.ckrs just don't give a rats arse about the little blokes having a go and there are some copy cat 4wd related products that I will never buy or use now. Anyway, this resulted in us removing our moulds from this particular manufacturer at a significant cost to us. Gotta love it, but we now have a much smaller and more approachable Aussie manufacturer that we are working with on the Sunny Coast to get things going again.

While we have been out of stock and struggling to pull the pieces back together, we had actually been doing a shite-load of work in the realm of recycled materials, recently even chipping up some old school chairs, basically melting them down and turning them into boxes, and it was a lot of fun to see it happen and think we could possibly do a little bit for our environment. The results weren't perfect but we learned a lot. We had also managed to secure a source of Aussie recycled rubbish plastic to use that should be really good if we get to use it. Would you believe that about 99% of recycled plastic is imported?? There is SFA available when it comes to recycled Aussie plastic but lots of research happening in this realm, so with a bit of luck, it should change. The R&D with the recycled rubbish was fun stuff though, particularly considering the amount of shit we see on our 'pristine' Cape York beaches, which in reality are probably the filthiest in Australia.

So, where are we at now and will we recover? To be honest, it is all up in the air at the moment. There are a few unknowns and a lot of soul searching going on. We have some huge plans, better seals, better QC practices and some great opportunities to explore, but a heap of hurdles as well. Many who have started up a business before me would know this feeling I am sure and I know several on here who have had a go and maybe had to pivot or recover from a kick in the guts from someone or some other business who simply doesn't care. Hats off to you lot, you no doubt know the feeling!

Anyway, I hope that didn't sound like a rant, it wasn't meant to. I was genuinely touched Toddy when you offered help from the forum. Meant a lot bloke. Swings and round-a-bouts right?!

MB
25th February 2021, 09:51 PM
Crikey Ben Mate!
Very sorry to hear here first from your good self of problems Brother.
Fortunately can say our 40+ purchased work & play Awesome Expedition Boxes have and still are truly exceptional, we friggin love them [emoji106][emoji106]
FWIW: I have too been hoodwinked by manufacturers over the years (home & abroad) slightly changing specifications without notice.
Has cost us too a small fortune making shit right again but that’s our Aussie Dinkum Legacy Brother [emoji1037]
Stay Safe, Stay Strong [emoji123]
Touch base anytime if needed [emoji120][emoji106][emoji106]


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MudRunnerTD
26th February 2021, 01:11 PM
Ghee that is fare average Ben, the dud units, are they of any value at all? can they be used for internal storage boxes of something? rebranded and sold off cheaper for archive type storage?

You were well and truly kicking goals mate, i did see another supplier selling a box, nothing likely yours, but was spruiking about the Seal and air tight etc.

Good luck mate. Love the Expedition 134 Box. Best Kit Ever. Never thought i'd be excited about a Box mate. You did Great.

Cuppa
26th February 2021, 02:24 PM
Oh sh*t Ben, I had no idea when you mentioned the faulty boxes in your shed. It’s wrong, just bl**dy wrong. I love that you now have an Aussie manufacturer, by geez those others are ar*eholes!

FNQGU
26th February 2021, 07:39 PM
the dud units, are they of any value at all? can they be used for internal storage boxes of something? rebranded and sold off cheaper for archive type storage?


finding a few uses as we go mate. The other thing we can now do is chip them up with other stuff and turn them back into recycled boxes so they won't go to waste or landfill. Something we are working on at the moment anyway.

FNQGU
26th February 2021, 07:43 PM
Oh sh*t Ben, I had no idea when you mentioned the faulty boxes in your shed...

Haha, did you take a look?! Fair few in there. They are still great for general storage purposes of course and I now use them for just about everything I possibly can, but when you swing back down off the Cape make sure to grab a few if you have room in the truck. I have however taken all the seals out of them to re-use on the new lot we hope won't be too far away.

NissanGQ4.2
26th February 2021, 10:52 PM
Far from a rant Ben and thanks on the update here even though that was far from the reason why I pm'd you originally, the forum never even crossed my mind 2 be honest. Very sad 2 hear last night where you are at with the boxes and what the company is going through. Wasn't sure if the forum could help in anyway but know we would stand behind you guys 100% in anyway possible.

I hope in the near future 2 hear from you saying everything is back on track and your still apart of it.

As I said not sure if we can help but I'm damn sure we will try.

Good luck mate, I'll touch base with you again soon via FB 2 see how you are going in general.

SamIam
22nd March 2021, 08:25 PM
*hit FNQGU, I do know the process of the o/s cheaper manufacturer.... Seen it before. I am sorry to hear of yet another. And the sooner the chinese are made to play the patent game... well, nuff said.

I am looking to deck my GQ out for camping, real interested in your boxes (but I am only human) please let me know if you get back into supply...

i will look for your website and get on the email list if I can...

Touses
23rd March 2021, 09:03 AM
*hit FNQGU, I do know the process of the o/s cheaper manufacturer.... Seen it before. I am sorry to hear of yet another. And the sooner the chinese are made to play the patent game... well, nuff said.

I am looking to deck my GQ out for camping, real interested in your boxes (but I am only human) please let me know if you get back into supply...

i will look for your website and get on the email list if I can...

Where you located Sam? If in Qld somewhere I can probably help you out. Got a few left from the original run.

SamIam
23rd March 2021, 12:03 PM
Clontarf, Brisbane mate. That would be real sweet.

Touses
23rd March 2021, 12:18 PM
Clontarf, Brisbane mate. That would be real sweet.

That works ok mate. I've generally got a truck heading to Nudgee/Banyo a coupla times a month.
Were I to have them left with Simmonds timber on Buchanan Rd, could you pick them up from there?

SamIam
23rd March 2021, 12:26 PM
Yes please mate, pm me cost, bank details etc.

Touses
23rd March 2021, 12:49 PM
Yes please mate, pm me cost, bank details etc.

Can do bloke. Be aware I have only the two colours, Black and grey.
Let me know numbers and colours.

MB
23rd March 2021, 07:48 PM
Latest rooftop test results are just in from Tasmania:
It’s official, Expedition Boxes are stronger than Climies Track vegetation and shiploads stronger than Busted Bunnings 250kg ratchet straps as Rossco has kindly proven barging through twin locked and winch free to the end with his kit still safely atop [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]
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SamIam
29th March 2021, 09:42 AM
Can do bloke. Be aware I have only the two colours, Black and grey.
Let me know numbers and colours.

2 Black, 2 Grey would be peachy Touses

MB
29th March 2021, 08:12 PM
Scrounged a slimline narrow yet lightweight firewood stick top rack out of our wrecking yard today to bolt in for next adventures [emoji106]
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Not that our crews firewood logs ever affected my Expedition Boxes lids but at least I’ll be able to get quick access to my undies box next time around, just need to label which box out of 12 capable now they’re in [emoji23][emoji106][emoji106]


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MB
11th April 2021, 10:51 AM
Absolutely pissing down rain here in Victoria today, may as well go chase down some ute snow time with our Littlest [emoji3587] ⛄️ [emoji1696]
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So much lighter these boxes than my old steel tool boxes, consolidated all tools, recovery gear and spares down to 4 x Expedition ones, 8 x Extra ones for tucker, cooking gear, bedding, clothes and first aid, LOVE EM[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
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Rossco
11th April 2021, 11:12 AM
Yeah there'l be snow around for sure, very jelly. . Have fun when you heading off?. .

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10G
11th April 2021, 06:14 PM
Absolutely pissing down rain here in Victoria today, may as well go chase down some ute snow time with our Littlest [emoji3587] ⛄️ [emoji1696]
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So much lighter these boxes than my old steel tool boxes, consolidated all tools, recovery gear and spares down to 4 x Expedition ones, 8 x Extra ones for tucker, cooking gear, bedding, clothes and first aid, LOVE EM[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
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that's be a great system if you put each row on a set of rollers MB.

Maxhead
11th April 2021, 09:54 PM
Absolutely pissing down rain here in Victoria today, may as well go chase down some ute snow time with our Littlest [emoji3587] ⛄️ [emoji1696]
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So much lighter these boxes than my old steel tool boxes, consolidated all tools, recovery gear and spares down to 4 x Expedition ones, 8 x Extra ones for tucker, cooking gear, bedding, clothes and first aid, LOVE EM[emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
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Holy boxes Batman, which one is the lighter in?lol


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Plasnart
11th April 2021, 10:45 PM
Holy boxes Batman, which one is the lighter in?lol


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The grey one krisso. Easy peesy!

Maxhead
12th April 2021, 07:52 AM
The grey one krisso. Easy peesy!

There’s always one...hahah[emoji23][emoji23]


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FNQGU
13th April 2021, 09:34 PM
Hey Guys, just a bit of an update as it has been a while...

Unfortunately, due to a number of circumstances, I have made a personal decision to step out of the Expedition134 business and leave it with my business partner to run.

Been a pretty sad time coming to grips with it, but sometimes it goes that way and you have to man up and make a decision. Hopefully, he can resurrect it all and explore some of the exciting plans that we were laying out.

If there is a positive, it is that I suddenly find myself with time for family, time for tinkering, and hell, I even read a number of books simply for the reading pleasure of it instead of trying to improve on some skill or other. There are positives and I am intending to run with them! I am sure there are others who have been through similar circumstances and felt the relief when there is a change, even if it wasn't a change that I envisioned a short while ago.

I want to thank you all for all of the fantastic support, suggestions, ideas, photos of the boxes as you are using them, and the general banter. Been a great run and learnt a hell of a lot!

Cremulator
13th April 2021, 11:59 PM
Sorry to hear that Ben.
In my experience, when you free yourself up from something that is consuming much of your time, you inevitably open yourself up to other opportunities.

If your next venture is anything like this was, I'm on board already [emoji106]

MB
7th May 2022, 10:47 PM
Never ending uses for these Legendary Designed Boxes Ben Mate, THANKYOU [emoji120][emoji120]

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Desperate Donga Elevation for Humid Soggy Boots [emoji3590][emoji3590]


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FNQGU
21st May 2022, 04:05 PM
Cremulator - working on one now...

Cremulator
22nd May 2022, 01:00 AM
Cremulator - working on one now...Take my money. [emoji122]

MB
26th June 2022, 09:01 PM
Kudos Again for Brilliant design Ben Mate [emoji120][emoji120][emoji123][emoji123]
Foolishly left my personal 2 x Tucker storage boxes & a third Utensils box clicked open to in my silly theory allow dry type goods to breath whilst away from the shed working interstate.
Rat/mice plague up here in the Hills recently and they’ve bastardised all dry goods bare tins in storage within and also pooped on my favourite Copper Rum mug [emoji23]
Unlike my old Rotomolded lip edged space cases at least I could hot pressure water blast them in 4 dimensions ready to GO Again hygienically drained within minutes [emoji120][emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]

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Winnie
26th June 2022, 09:39 PM
Not the copper cup! Seriously game changing drinking receptacle.

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MB
26th June 2022, 09:45 PM
Takes Rum to Know One [emoji123][emoji123]
Wanna fight [emoji23]


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Winnie
26th June 2022, 09:49 PM
Nup! Not been involved in many fights in my life but have drank a lot of Bundy rum.... Must be a soft modern aged Bundy drinker.

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MB
26th June 2022, 09:53 PM
I should’ve left the Rumbo Caps open in my Boxes, we could’ve bet on RAT cage wars in their empty bases with slippery inescapable sides [emoji23][emoji123][emoji123]


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Winnie
26th June 2022, 10:20 PM
I don't know what you just said but I'm keen!

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mudnut
26th June 2022, 10:33 PM
Kudos Again for Brilliant design Ben Mate [emoji120][emoji120][emoji123][emoji123]
Foolishly left my personal 2 x Tucker storage boxes & a third Utensils box clicked open to in my silly theory allow dry type goods to breath whilst away from the shed working interstate.
Rat/mice plague up here in the Hills recently and they’ve bastardised all dry goods bare tins in storage within and also pooped on my favourite Copper Rum mug [emoji23]
Unlike my old Rotomolded lip edged space cases at least I could hot pressure water blast them in 4 dimensions ready to GO Again hygienically drained within minutes [emoji120][emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]

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Bloody hell, Mark. You are having a bad trot. You need to go on holiday ASAP.

MB
26th June 2022, 10:40 PM
There’s ALWAYS Someone Else worse off Craigstar Mate, take Rossco for example, Poor Buggers had his Magnificent Silver Brumby fully rebuilt GQ heater hoses chewed out [emoji51][emoji26]


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