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Kimbo63
20th September 2016, 02:14 PM
Hi all was wondering if any one was running the waterless coolant and is it worth the coin?
Kimbo63
20th September 2016, 02:16 PM
here is a link to the web site
https://www.evanscoolants.com.au/
threedogs
20th September 2016, 02:40 PM
I think AB was asking about it earlier in the year or late last year.
Not sure of the outcome but pretty sure he went with normal coolant.
the evil twin
20th September 2016, 02:43 PM
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?36156-Evans-coolant&highlight=evans+waterless
dom14
21st September 2016, 10:25 PM
Too dear from what I've read so far.
Not worth the trouble & an overkill, at least in my case.
AGman
22nd September 2016, 07:00 PM
Expensive and engine may run a bit hotter.
You can drain it and reuse it indefinitely, does not build pressure so your hoses last a lot longer.
My biggest issue with it was the flush - getting all the old coolant out of a system but it seems they have a flush now to help with that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoqxFhNboM4&feature=youtu.be
Jay Leno uses it a lot and has a few vids on it on his channel as well.
nissannewby
22nd September 2016, 08:24 PM
Hi all was wondering if any one was running the waterless coolant and is it worth the coin?
Wont solve overheating issues. Is water causing an issue?
Plasnart
22nd September 2016, 08:43 PM
K.I.S.S. My philosophy for everything Kimbo.
AB
22nd September 2016, 09:05 PM
Hi all was wondering if any one was running the waterless coolant and is it worth the coin? You're car is cool as a cucumber isn't it Kimbo?
It seemed that way on our trip.
Cheers for letting me drive it too mate.
Kimbo63
23rd September 2016, 10:22 AM
Wont solve overheating issues. Is water causing an issue?
No issues Matt just had not heard of this before so was just curious I do like that you can run with no pressure and also that it's not harmful like coolant
Kimbo63
23rd September 2016, 10:25 AM
You're car is cool as a cucumber isn't it Kimbo?
It seemed that way on our trip.
Cheers for letting me drive it too mate.
Yes all good mate it was a great day you didn't drive like you had stolen it tho
Are you coming over for the playground opening or is it just mark & the Canadian ?
nipagu7
23rd September 2016, 01:38 PM
cem make an additive for water that seems much easier to work with than coolants . havent used it myself but will have a good look at it next time i change the coolant . i believe it is biodegradeable so no worries about dumping it when it comes time to renew .
Robo
23rd September 2016, 04:33 PM
Looks and reads like the bee's knees.
That is until your in the middle of no where and run into trouble and need a top up or worse case complete refill what then.
agree KISS
GeeYou8
23rd September 2016, 09:32 PM
Water has an amazing thermal mass, and it absorbs extra latent heat when things get too hot.
It just sucks that it is corrosive.
Graham
AB
23rd September 2016, 09:40 PM
Yes all good mate it was a great day you didn't drive like you had stolen it tho Are you coming over for the playground opening or is it just mark & the Canadian ? Sorry mate I'm out unfortunately. Just Mark and the Canadian mountain climber.
It's your turn now...lol...east!!! ;)
dom14
23rd September 2016, 09:55 PM
Water has an amazing thermal mass, and it absorbs extra latent heat when things get too hot.
It just sucks that it is corrosive.
Graham
I use anti corrosion additive with demineralized water, though I'm not sure whether it's doing what it's suppose to do.
Robo
23rd September 2016, 11:30 PM
I use anti corrosion additive with demineralized water, though I'm not sure whether it's doing what it's suppose to do.
Demineralized water these days is chemically treat Iv'e been told, so not truly clean.
I use distilled water now.
dom14
24th September 2016, 03:55 AM
Demineralized water these days is chemically treat Iv'e been told, so not truly clean.
I use distilled water now.
Hmmm..... I thought it's the same thing.
jay see
24th September 2016, 04:24 AM
On my last coolant change I tried to find distilled water but could only find demineralised. I didn't look to hard tho.
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GeeYou8
24th September 2016, 09:37 AM
Demineralized water these days is chemically treat Iv'e been told, so not truly clean.
I use distilled water now.
Demineralised water is what they sell as distilled water, it has the minerals removed through reverse osmosis, a physical process. Pretty much it is pure water.
50/50 with the right coolant is the way to go, don't buy premix as there is always some water left from flushing.
Graham
dom14
24th September 2016, 02:36 PM
On my last coolant change I tried to find distilled water but could only find demineralised. I didn't look to hard tho.
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I'm pretty sure it's the same thing. I'll wait for the other blokes here to correct me, if I"m wrong about that.
I buy the stuff from Coles, which is a cheaper way to buy them in bulk. Around $1.50 for a 2 litre bottle.
dom14
24th September 2016, 02:40 PM
Demineralised water is what they sell as distilled water, it has the minerals removed through reverse osmosis, a physical process. Pretty much it is pure water.
50/50 with the right coolant is the way to go, don't buy premix as there is always some water left from flushing.
Graham
Yeah, I even put bit more than 50% of the rust inhibitor concentrate. The rust at the bottom of the block was probably left overs from previous build up. I didn't use anti freeze, just rust inhibitor, 'cos I thought anti freeze is not critical in Melbourne, unless I decide to spend time in the snow.
dom14
24th September 2016, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I even put bit more than 50% of the rust inhibitor concentrate. The rust at the bottom of the block was probably left overs from previous build up. I didn't use anti freeze, just rust inhibitor, 'cos I thought anti freeze is not critical in Melbourne, unless I decide to spend time in the snow.
I also decided to do an "electrolyte test" with the multimeter & a litmus test as well. Both cost practically nothing.
Litmus strips are fairly cheap.
dom14
24th September 2016, 02:54 PM
Demineralised water is what they sell as distilled water, it has the minerals removed through reverse osmosis, a physical process. Pretty much it is pure water.
50/50 with the right coolant is the way to go, don't buy premix as there is always some water left from flushing.
Graham
I've been wondering mate,
Is there a way to get rid of every bit of water(figuratively speaking) after flushing the engine cooling system(exclude radiator)??!!
There's obviously a drain plug on RB30 block, but it's the same level as the welch plugs. I'm not sure it's capable of draining all the water though.
I'm guessing some kinda air pressure method?!!! Any ideas, thoughts??!!!
GeeYou8
25th September 2016, 08:51 AM
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing. I'll wait for the other blokes here to correct me, if I"m wrong about that.
I buy the stuff from Coles, which is a cheaper way to buy them in bulk. Around $1.50 for a 2 litre bottle.
The "distilled" water from Coles is demineralised water, it is cheaper in a 4 litre especially when you need 15 litres in the system, the Coles stores I have been to have a maximum of 6x 4l on the shelf.
When we tested it years ago it had the lowest total dissolved solids (TDS) of any of the demineralised waters we could find, we use it for servicing wet cell NiCad batteries.
As for getting rid of the last bit of flushing water (the scheme water here has a high % of ground water so is high in TDS) , you could fill with demineralised water, then drain, add concentrate then top up with fresh demineralised water.
With anti freeze it also makes the water slipperier so it will move through the block & radiator better, it will also raise the boiling point, the anti freeze properties are redundant in most parts of Australia.
Graham
dom14
25th September 2016, 05:38 PM
The "distilled" water from Coles is demineralised water, it is cheaper in a 4 litre especially when you need 15 litres in the system, the Coles stores I have been to have a maximum of 6x 4l on the shelf.
When we tested it years ago it had the lowest total dissolved solids (TDS) of any of the demineralised waters we could find, we use it for servicing wet cell NiCad batteries.
As for getting rid of the last bit of flushing water (the scheme water here has a high % of ground water so is high in TDS) , you could fill with demineralised water, then drain, add concentrate then top up with fresh demineralised water.
With anti freeze it also makes the water slipperier so it will move through the block & radiator better, it will also raise the boiling point, the anti freeze properties are redundant in most parts of Australia.
Graham
Thanx for the information mate.
Yeah, anti freeze doesn't make sense for the most areas and times in Australia.
On rare occasions, in late winter the temperature drops to below zero, turning water buckets into ice in Melbourne outer suburbs, particularly in eastern suburbs. It happened last year and the year before here in Melbourne outer east, but not this year though.
Even with that, I reckon it's not cold enough to freeze the water inside the engine. Anti freeze is useful for guys who live in Dandenong Ranges, etc or in hilly countryside.
I would only put antifreeze if I decide to spend overnights in snow resorts during winter, which I don't do, so antifreeze is no use for me. The boiling point get raised a bit with water pressure, so I reckon that's enough to hold it for a while in case of overheating.
I do have two aftermarket temperature gauge units with build in warning buzzers & blinkers, so that won't be an issue.
BTW, I have no idea what a wet cell NiCad is, and I have no idea how you use distilled water in them.
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