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Battleready76
7th August 2016, 11:11 AM
Gents I tried to fit tee piece off motor to fit oil pressure sender all was easy enough but I've got 2 male run tees 1/8 npt but neither of them are narrow enough at the mouth to even get a bite on the thread in engine block ?? Got fittings from Pirtek and one from another dealer but be buggered if they will screw in measured start up thread with vernier and it's about .4mm to big might have to try enzed or ?? Anybody have this problem or do I need a another brand of fitting as I'm stumped
Why the mongrels won't fit you can visibly see that oil switch is slightly smaller in the mouth compared to my fittings ????? Quite the conundrum and blood loss was great and the heat sheild on turbo is sharp beware.
Battleready
dom14
8th August 2016, 12:57 AM
Gents I tried to fit tee piece off motor to fit oil pressure sender all was easy enough but I've got 2 male run tees 1/8 npt but neither of them are narrow enough at the mouth to even get a bite on the thread in engine block ?? Got fittings from Pirtek and one from another dealer but be buggered if they will screw in measured start up thread with vernier and it's about .4mm to big might have to try enzed or ?? Anybody have this problem or do I need a another brand of fitting as I'm stumped
Why the mongrels won't fit you can visibly see that oil switch is slightly smaller in the mouth compared to my fittings ????? Quite the conundrum and blood loss was great and the heat sheild on turbo is sharp beware.
Battleready
The oil pressure sender/oil pressure switch(same unit in my RB30 Patrol) thread pitch is 1/8NPT from memory, but it's tapered.
In other words. tip of the thread head is narrower than the other end. If you look at the sender unit fitting threaded rod, you can see it's angled. So, if you're to use a T piece on the block, that T piece has to be tapered as well as matched the pitch to 1/8NPT.
Take the sender unit to Pirtek and they will measure the taper angle and give you the correct T piece.
Without that they wouldn't know, so they would've given you the untapered T pieces.
One thing can happen is that you can accidentally end up forcing the non tapered T piece into the tapered block hole and damage the oil pressure threaded hole of the block. If that happens, there will be lot of headaches.
Battleready76
8th August 2016, 06:53 PM
The oil pressure sender/oil pressure switch(same unit in my RB30 Patrol) thread pitch is 1/8NPT from memory, but it's tapered.
In other words. tip of the thread head is narrower than the other end. If you look at the sender unit fitting threaded rod, you can see it's angled. So, if you're to use a T piece on the block, that T piece has to be tapered as well as matched the pitch to 1/8NPT.
Take the sender unit to Pirtek and they will measure the taper angle and give you the correct T piece.
Without that they wouldn't know, so they would've given you the untapered T pieces.
One can happen is that you can accidentally end up forcing the non tapered T piece into the tapered block hole and damage the oil pressure threaded hole of the block. If that happens, there will be lot of headaches.
I've look hard at these fittings and have read and heard that the factory switch is a 1/8gas which has the same thread pitch as bspt ? I'm totally confused as I've got tapered threads 1/8npt from 2 different dealers pirtek and hose master neither fit but I have ordered a bspt vdo tee and will gingerly try and see if it screws in but with the other 2 absolutely no chance when you look at my fitting against a bspt its smaller so I'm balls deep more cuts and blood loss sorting this last piece of my gauge saga the only reason I got npt is the manual book that I downloaded said npt can't trust every thing you read ???
Battleready
mudski
8th August 2016, 07:14 PM
This is what you need....
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Oil-Pressure-Gauge-Adapter-1-8-NPT-BSPT-Brass-SAAS-T-Piece-Sensor-Sender-AFGA31-/161870084028?hash=item25b03577bc:g:qbYAAOSw-itXqC-N
Tis' what I use on my Patrol to run two switches.
jay see
8th August 2016, 08:18 PM
This is what you need....
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Oil-Pressure-Gauge-Adapter-1-8-NPT-BSPT-Brass-SAAS-T-Piece-Sensor-Sender-AFGA31-/161870084028?hash=item25b03577bc:g:qbYAAOSw-itXqC-N
Tis' what I use on my Patrol to run two switches.
X2.
Easy and effective.
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Battleready76
8th August 2016, 09:02 PM
roger that got it ordered
Thanks again gents
Battleready
dom14
8th August 2016, 09:06 PM
I've look hard at these fittings and have read and heard that the factory switch is a 1/8gas which has the same thread pitch as bspt ? I'm totally confused as I've got tapered threads 1/8npt from 2 different dealers pirtek and hose master neither fit but I have ordered a bspt vdo tee and will gingerly try and see if it screws in but with the other 2 absolutely no chance when you look at my fitting against a bspt its smaller so I'm balls deep more cuts and blood loss sorting this last piece of my gauge saga the only reason I got npt is the manual book that I downloaded said npt can't trust every thing you read ???
Battleready
I can't see what your vehicle is, so I was assuming it's RB30 Patrol block.
RB30 is definitely has tapered thread on the oil pressure sender hole.
I dunno about other vehicles though.
Either way, I found the best way to fit another switch or sender to the block is to use sandwich plate on the oil filter.
Sandwich plate allows you to fit two more switch/sender units.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/UNIVERSAL-OIL-COOLER-ADAPTOR-ENGINE-BLOCK-FILTER-SANDWICH-PLATE-AN10-ALLOY-/321362797677?hash=item4ad2b7246d:g:N0kAAMXQeKNTM5l L
or this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OIL-TEMP-PRESSURE-SENSOR-ADAPTOR-SKYLINE-WRX-SUPRA-SILVIA-EVO-180SX-GTR-PURPLE/322138635643?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3D6871453e03c049aaa0f aafc80652e682%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26 sd%3D321362797677
I've installed a one of the above and it's going pretty good since last year.
Undoing the filter is lot lot easier than undoing the sender unit on RB30 Patrol.
The advantage of the sandwich plate is that you don't need to worry about whether the T piece is tapered or not.
It's 1/8NPT untapered on the sandwich plate. So, the sender/switch kit you buy does NOT need to be tapered 1/8NPT.
AFAIK, most of the aftermarket sender/switch units use untapered thread, which is usually 1/8NPT.
dom14
8th August 2016, 09:17 PM
This is the sender unit from RB30. You can see it's tapered.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62265&d=1445660961
Battleready76
22nd August 2016, 11:00 AM
Well gents jobs done gauges are fitted they dim with dash lights and can't fault them ,,'twas a bit of wrong information about the fitting but thanks to all you for the advice
Battleready
Arfa Brayne
23rd August 2016, 11:43 PM
I guess a bit of accurate information can be really helpful when you're trying to get others to solve problems.
What engine and model Patrol you have makes a big difference.
The RB30 is an all Japanese engine, but the TB42 is primarily a Ford engine - all of the tapered fittings on the block I have encountered have been tapered bsp.
Earlier Datsun engines were based on pommy BMC motors - but without all the oil leaks. Datto 1200 was a morris engine.
Dunno about the ZD30 grenade motor, but the bottom end is supposed to be the same as the BD30 which is used in trucks and excavators and extremely reliable.
With modern "badge engineering" it's like working out which stray dog gave your bitch pups.
lakerz72
6th June 2021, 07:34 PM
Link is no more, any chance on a updated one ?
Lionel84
4th November 2021, 05:56 PM
Look up SAAS SGA230036
About $20 or something from Autobarn/ supercheap
Just checked. $18 from Autobarnhttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/11/22.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2021/11/23.jpg
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