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[besp]

I have a 2008 GU6 with the 17inch factory alloys and 265/70/R17's (31inch)
I am looking for a 33inch equivalent.
It looks like a new 16x8 sunny with 285/75/R16's seems to be a well used combo and will be cheaper than the rubber alone on 17's.
Good so far?

The tyre shop tells be they recommend a -23 offset on the 16's.
I believe my current offset is +10.
Is offset mm? And if so, why would a 33mm change be needed for an increase from 265 to 285. Surely i only need to change 10mm and therefore a 0 offset. Or are brakes a factor?

Just checking - a positive moves the inside rim nearer the engine and a negative moves away from the engine. Right?

Thanks.

[abw]

Yep, negative moves the tyre centerline out. I have ROH Trac2 16"x8" -13mm rims, with 285/75/16s. No rubbing and tyres don't hang outside the guards.

[besp]

Thanks abw.
Did you go neg 13 for a reason?
What year are you and ST or DX?
Would a another 10mm still keep within the guards?
Ta.

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[abw]

It's a pretty common size, tyres don't hang out the guards. And ADR (?) rules say you can change the track legally (self certify) by 25mm over what is available for that model. Some Patrols come with 0mm offset, so having -13mm offset both sides changes the track by 26mm (close enough). By the way, I have the larger TB48 (4.8 L petrol) calipers, and these rims fit nicely over them.

[MudRunnerTD]

I went to Neg6 16x8 RockCrawler rims and run 305/70R16 (33x12.5) on them.

The reference to neg 22 or Neg 25 is really carried over from the old GQ days when everyone fitting the Neg22 off the Toyota but it really is Too much for a late model GU as the tyres will be outside the guard and you risk being put off the road.

My Neg 6 are perfect. I have seen Neg13 sit OK too but not sure they would take a 305 and still sit inside the guard.

[MudRunnerTD]

check out this thread and go to post 10. Note the date is a long time ago and at that stage my GUIV had No lift and factory Alloys

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?903-Tyre-Feedback-Kumho

[besp]

Thanks guys. So neg twentysomething is not neededed for either big calipers or a wider 305 and might actually be an issue with adr's and protruding past the arches. So I think something around the neg 10 is the go.
Anyone else want to share their thoughts?

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[jay see]

My Neg 6 are perfect. I have seen Neg13 sit OK too but not sure they would take a 305 and still sit inside the guard.

I recently fitted 305/70/16 on 16x8 neg 13 on a series 1 GU.

Drivers side.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/253.jpg

Passenger side.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/254.jpg

This is with a 2" lift.
Adjustable panhards will recenter the diff, but as you can see it's not a lot.

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[MudRunnerTD]

I recently fitted 305/70/16 on 16x8 neg 13 on a series 1 GU.

Drivers side.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/253.jpg

Passenger side.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/254.jpg

This is with a 2" lift.
Adjustable panhards will recenter the diff, but as you can see it's not a lot.

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I reckon you'd get done in Mansfield Jay see

[MudRunnerTD]

These pics are 16x8 RockCrawler Rims with 'D' holes in a Neg-6 Offset and these tyres are 285s


http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0434.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0436.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0437.jpg

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/IMG_0440-1.jpg

[jay see]

I reckon you'd get done in Mansfield Jay see
Yeah, but you'll get done for having bird poo in you windscreen arc up there.

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[besp]

Thanks for the pics guys.
Neither are shouting out to get pulled over.

[besp]

So the tyre shop say that there's a possible cost of $90 if the wheel nuts from the current wheels don't suit the new ones.

Factory alloys to sunnies. Does this seem true? Anyone had this problem?

And is $90 a reasonable price for 24 nuts?

[abw]

My old wheel nuts fit my steelies.

[jay see]

I asked the same question and went from factory alloys to steel and was told that they would be fine.

It's got to do with the tapered end of the wheel nut as long as they sit properly on the rim they'll be fine.

Where you located got any prices yet.

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[besp]

Where you located got any prices yet.


I'm in Sydney.
Have only spoken to St Georges Tyres so far but now I know more about the offset I'll be hitting the phone.
Any recommendations?

[jay see]

Sorry can't help from Melbourne.
Now exactly what you want and hit the phone, even the smaller places.
Good luck with it..

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[besp]

Good luck with it..


Thank bud. Will report back!

[threedogs]

Thanks guys. So neg twentysomething is not neededed for either big calipers or a wider 305 and might actually be an issue with adr's and protruding past the arches. So I think something around the neg 10 is the go.
Anyone else want to share their thoughts?

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This is mine running 305 Mickey T MTZs on black King rims with neg 13

[besp]

Neg 13 looks right. Thanks threedogs.

[besp]

Wheels and tyres on today.
285/75 on a 16 rim with neg 13.
Thanks for all the help.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/08/59.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/08/60.jpg

[jay see]

Wheels and tyres on today.
285/75 on a 16 rim with neg 13.
Thanks for all the help.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/08/59.jpg
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/08/60.jpg
I hope a little lift is next on your list.

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[besp]

I hope a little lift is next on your list.

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Yes it's sitting a bit tight.
I'm researching a 2" lift right now!

[jay see]

Yes it's sitting a bit tight.
I'm researching a 2" lift right now!
Good, it doesn't look right ATM.

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[bsteveo]

I recently fitted 305/70/16 on 16x8 neg 13 on a series 1 GU.

Drivers side.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/253.jpg

Passenger side.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/254.jpg

This is with a 2" lift.
Adjustable panhards will recenter the diff, but as you can see it's not a lot.

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Is this common? I just changed from the stock 17" alloys to 16x8 steel rims , no idea offset as I bought them used a few years ago. But I've noticed the same thing, drivers side hangs out past guards , passenger side doesn't

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[MudRunnerTD]

Is this common? I just changed from the stock 17" alloys to 16x8 steel rims , no idea offset as I bought them used a few years ago. But I've noticed the same thing, drivers side hangs out past guards , passenger side doesn't

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It's a Panard adjustment. This is the reason you need adjustable Panards when going taller than a 2" lift. The difference gets bigger the higher the lift.

[bsteveo]

It's a Panard adjustment. This is the reason you need adjustable Panards when going taller than a 2" lift. The difference gets bigger the higher the lift.
Ah fair enough, thanks for that I thought I was going insane

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