TD42 or Z30?

[PatrolTico]

Hello there!

I have a 1996 Y60 and I´ve been thinking to upgrade to a newer Y61 (2006/2009) both lovely cars but I have seen a bunch of people having troubles with their turbos. I live in Costa Rica (Central America) and had not have any problem so far with my 96 Y60 but I would love to buy a newer car as mine is getting old and every year I will have to fix more things. Same as with a newer car but it makes more sense to me to spend on a newer car.

in short, my question is: should I sell my Y60 and jump on a newer model or should I keep my old nissan and put a turbo on it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Col.T]

G'day Tico,
surprised no answers yet.
My experience is over a GQ4.2 non turbo diesel (400K) and an 08 GU 3.0l CRD turbo (so far 200K) with a total of about 60 years of cars and bikes.
My philosophy is now 'keep it simple, stupid'.
Wish I hadn't let the CEO talk me into the swap over. Reason is the old 4.2 had all the torque down low, the new one needs revs to get the turbo singing and of course that means speed as a rule. For bird watchers grinding their way up a creek bed in the middle of nowhere, speed generally means trouble. Also would you believe the 3.0l models don't even have a manual throttle, so slow, slow control without a jerking foot on the pedal is now gone. Absolute rubbish unless you're a European mother picking up the children from school and likely to drive over the kerb.
You are right though, the older they get the more things need repair or replacement. I'd guess I was on my third clutch and second brake master cylinders ( at least) which is a pain and of course all rubber and plastic components slowly give up. It is all a matter of pain versus gain.
I'd prefer the pain of maintaining an everlasting, low revving reliable non turbo 4.2 motor over an up market revving rocket but I happen to be a bird watcher too with a nice Nikon camera and lens and binoculars too.
I envy you your God given location.
Regards,
Col.

[Cuppa]

I don’t reckon there’s a lot more to say after Col’s post ..... unless you can get a later model 4.2 ......even then you need a few more revs than a non turbo model, just not as much as 3.0, but then I would like things both ways, particularly when a 3.0 leaves me effortlessly at the lights.

[BigRAWesty]

My 3ltr is on max boost by 1800rpm. .
Throw a set of reduction gears at it and your crawling no issues..

Imo Cols post is all but null and void..
Granted in high range it's noticeable that a bit of pedal is now needed at take off..
But you still need rpm for a td42 turbo to perform aswell..
Maybe talking 300 rpm difference..

Imo it's more a question of if you want take the risk of the zd30..
I'd say 09 is quite safe as its a crd.. but if your comparing it to and 06 I'd say the 09 has far more miles on the clock..

Sure I regret selling my td42..
But I think it's more to do with history.. my Olds bought the car when I was 5..
But I love the zd30 crd.. I wouldn't go back..

[Bigcol]

I don’t reckon there’s a lot more to say after Col’s post ..... unless you can get a later model 4.2 ......even then you need a few more revs than a non turbo model, just not as much as 3.0, but then I would like things both ways, particularly when a 3.0 leaves me effortlessly at the lights.


I agree, it annoys me watching the 3.0L take off at the lights and they flog away in front of me, but then I dont care, as my 4.2 will tow my Van, where a 3.0L wont
my turbo kicks in at 1800rpm and goes all the way to 3200rpm and I only run 8lb of boost

horses for courses PatrolTico, I had my 1989 GQ TB42 (Y60) for 8 years and only went to the GU (Y61) because I wanted a TD42 to tow with

all depends on what you want to do with it, how often you take it off road, etc

good luck with your decision

[PatrolTico]

Hey Col.T, that´s great to hear you are a bird watcher! only bad thing is that you are using a Nikon camera... (joking!)

Hope you can make it to CR some time! Thanks a ton for your reply!

El tico!

[threedogs]

Why not throw some $$$ at the patrol you have now, it will save buying and kitting up another 4x4,$$$$
The one you have now you must know intimately by now with all its quirks etc.
Grab a pad and pencil and write down all thats needed to bring it back to its former glory,,it may be cheaper than you think???

[Patrol'n]

X2 for threedogs comment, I would rather spend some coin on the mechanicals of my GQ if it needed it than spend it on a newer truck, so long as it doesn't have terminal rust, or some other serious reason to get rid of it.

Albeit, my truck is in good nick for its age, and I have spent a lot of time and effort setting it up to suit our use. That and I personally love the old GQ's, and I just made peace with the fact I will need to do some preventative maintenance each year to keep it sweet.

Just my opinion :-)