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mudnut
26th May 2016, 03:18 PM
G'day, All. My uncle had the misfortune to watch his Rodeo go up in flames a couple of years ago.

Fortunately, he was able to acquire an 06-07 GU TD42 ute which already had a canopy and duel battery system installed.

He runs a 60 litre Engel which is great when he goes away, for 6 months of the year, but the battery seems to run down quickly in the off season.

I had a look under the bonnet and found that the second battery is only charged via a solenoid, so there is not much of a circuit that will cause leakage.

My question is this, what would be the best way of maintaining the battery?

BigRAWesty
26th May 2016, 04:04 PM
A multi stage charger plugged into 240v while the car is dormant.
Or if he uses the car weekly the a dc-dc multi stage charger.. to save unplugging all the time..

You see 7 stage chargers for about $100 these days..

But if he's getting mass voltage drop over a short period I'd say battery is near toast..

mudnut
26th May 2016, 06:47 PM
Will let him know, thanks, Kallen.

Winnie
26th May 2016, 06:55 PM
I just bought a ctek 3.8A smart charger for $105 to leave plugged in all the time.

the evil twin
26th May 2016, 07:14 PM
Charge it at the end of the Season with a "recondition" mode charger.
Disconnect the Battery until next season.
Maybe a quick top up in the middle of the "off season"

If it loses charge that way then the Battery is toast

lhurley
26th May 2016, 08:55 PM
Is leaving the battery hooked up to a solar panel (regulated obviously) going to achieve the same results as a 240v charger? I.e. Maintain/top up the battery level.

My patrol is hooked up to my solar panel and I have been wondering if I can leave it or I should unplug it then just use it to top the battery up every so often.

Cuppa
26th May 2016, 09:23 PM
What has been missed so far is to ask what sort of battery it is. A 'wet' battery will behave somewhat differently to a an AGM battery. The latter were originally designed for the armed forces who wanted bateries for vehicles & equipment which were only used from time to time, sitting idle in between. Wet batteries have a much higher 'self discharge rate' & need regular charging to prevent them going 'flat' & bringing about their early demise. AGM batteries on the other hand can be fully charged & then left idle & unused for months at a time. An AGM in good condition left in this way will still be at 80% SOC (State of charge) after say 3 months, & 60+% after 12 months. I don't advise leaving one for 12 months, but charging it to 100% every 3 or 4 months would be fine.

If it's a wet battery weekly charging combined with a check of of it's fluid levels will suffice. eaving it connected to a mains or solar trickle charge will also do the job, but still wise to check the fluid regularly

BigRAWesty
26th May 2016, 10:53 PM
Is leaving the battery hooked up to a solar panel (regulated obviously) going to achieve the same results as a 240v charger? I.e. Maintain/top up the battery level.

My patrol is hooked up to my solar panel and I have been wondering if I can leave it or I should unplug it then just use it to top the battery up every so often.
It would but again for best results a dc-dc multi stage charger is best..

Cuppa
26th May 2016, 11:01 PM
It would but again for best results a dc-dc multi stage charger is best..

Sorry Kallen, but that just isn’t so. A solar regulator is a multi stage charger & a battery doesn’t care if it’s charge is coming from the sun, an alternaor (via dc to c charger) or from a mains powered multi stage charger. In respect to the OP’s question, the least useful would be a dc to dc charger which requires the vehicle to be used to do it’s job.

BigRAWesty
27th May 2016, 05:46 AM
Sorry Kallen, but that just isn’t so. A solar regulator is a multi stage charger & a battery doesn’t care if it’s charge is coming from the sun, an alternaor (via dc to c charger) or from a mains powered multi stage charger. In respect to the OP’s question, the least useful would be a dc to dc charger which requires the vehicle to be used to do it’s job.
Sorry your right. I should have put more into the answer.. lol
I was going "best option" along the line of the solar with a dc-dc charger is more versatile, once setup it can be used anywhere..

But yes when at home if the car I'd sheded for lma long time then the 240v wins

mudnut
27th May 2016, 10:49 AM
I relayed all of your replies to my uncle and he thanks you very much. It is a new AGM battery bought for this season as the problem was with the battery which came with the vehicle. Now he is leaning towards buying a small solar panel to keep the battery topped up.

the evil twin
27th May 2016, 06:27 PM
Fair enuf...
Still a good idea to give it a belt with a mains charger in AGM mode at the end of each season.

Cuppa
27th May 2016, 06:41 PM
I’ve always been advised that you shouldn’t use the ‘Recondition/Equalise’ mode with AGM’s. I believe some folk do, but I never have except in a last ditch attempt to revive a battery which the charger says is ‘kaput’.

the evil twin
27th May 2016, 07:04 PM
Shit... my bad, meant AGM, post amended