A matter of input!

[Touses]

At the outset I would like to apologise in advance to AB and the moderators.

It may not be my place to gripe on this matter and cooler heads will undoubtedly have a more moderate view.

HOWEVER in the short time I have been a member the number of 25 post hit and run incidents has been very disheartening!

I appreciate the requirement the forum has for new members but surely the true blue core of the forum will not suffer from a little discretionary pruning.

My point here is the offer of manuals after 25 posts. I am aware that this has been discussed in the past and the offer has been rescinded and reinstated on occasion.

What I would like to propose is that manuals be offered at the absolute discretion of the administrator and or moderators.

Ie, If after the required quota of posts has been met a member requests a manual that members posting history be evaluated.

Only then will the request be considered!

If it is patently obvious that the member has joined for the reward of the manuals alone then the request be denied and in certain cases the membership be revoked!

I have no wish to place further workload on either AB or the mods but i do believe the matter requires addressing.

My solution may be in no way workable. Wiser heads will have wiser ways!

Just putting the thought out there folks. I feel sure others will have been harbouring similar dissatisfactions.

Again my apologies to the top brass.

Regards, Rob

[mudnut]

A simple solution could be restricting the 25 posts to the introduction thread and a thread or two for them to ask or discuss a problem until their 25 posts are used.

May be impossible to set up though.

[the evil twin]

A simple solution could be restricting the 25 posts to the introduction thread and a thread or two for them to ask or discuss a problem until their 25 posts are used.

May be impossible to set up though.

I think many regulars know my view which is just shitcan the whole 25 posts prerequisite.

I acknowledge totally the effort to gather the 'manuals' but they are in no way the intellectual property of the Forum.
I acknowledge there is a cost to hosting the 'manuals' but surely we are happy to help offset that in sponsorship, I know I am.
There is immense wealth of knowledge available here in the specific threads or by simply posting a Q and IMHO it is that which we should be relying on.

Further, this 25 posts in the intro section that has been in place for yoinks is most perplexing.

Basically it is asking that a brand new 'forumite' go to the 'intros' and welcome 25 people who are already here.
That is the same as a new resident in a community welcoming the people who already live there.
It is arse backwards and says 'if you want the manuals pls make up 25 meaningless posts but only post them in intros or we ban you'.

Totally respect the opinions of others and AB's call on this subject as always

[the evil twin]

... I also suggest that the cost to 'host' a gazillion 25 poster threads and inane replies is probably 100 times more the the cost to host the Manuals without even touching on the PIA factor of how it chokes up the 'latest posts' and 'whats new' search function.

[4bye4]

What ET said. Manuals are manuals after all and get be gotten by other methods rather than cluttering up the forum with posts. If advice is requested it is up to the members whether they offer their experience and advice to low or no post requests.

[Clunk]

Nothing wrong with cluttering up the forum with posts..... its what keeps the forum ticking over

[Clunk]

Meh 25 posts indeed, just wait until I get round to welcoming 3 months worth of newcomers, then you have something to grumble about

[taslucas]

Only here for the manuals???

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/04/158.jpg

>>>tappin from tassie

[threedogs]

What there's manuals!, must look into it lol

[megatexture]

Wonder if new member Ryank has read this thread

[lhurley]

What there's manuals!, must look into it lol

Sorry mate, I dont think you have enough posts.

[mudski]

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[NissanGQ4.2]

Post 59......Still cracks me up ET

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?35112-eternal-debate-on-25-posts-amp-newbies&highlight=wait+manuals

[the evil twin]

Mudski... GOLD

NissanGQ4.2... hehehe, I'd forgotten that one.

[GeeYou8]

I had the full GQ manual until I gave it away recently.
I have an older GU manual, I had 2 but gave one away.
I have a copy of the reference manual that I have had for ages.
Have not downloaded anything from here yet.
Graham

[mudski]

Appologies to the OP of my .gif seems a bit off. This topic is soooo over done. Soon enough mate you will learn to accept and move on.

This thread has to be my top favorite dummy spits over the manuals.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?37037-Un-fcking-believable!

[BigRAWesty]

I'm with mark.. this is really flogging the dead horse..
Sure the forum doesn't own the manuals..
But I'd be surprised if the bloke on ebay flogging the cd off for how ever many bucks owns em too..

I see why it's in place..
It does weed out those we don't want..
What it doesn't do is weed out the dedicated tight asses lol..

Also as mark said, you get use to it..

[GeeYou8]

A better indicator might be how many times someone has been thanked by existing members, it could still be an automated process then.
Graham

[Touses]

Ok! Ok! I give in! I shall pack my righteous indignation away never again to see the light of day.

Just my over developed sense of what is right and wrong having a wriggle. Aspergers perhaps?

Did get a big laugh out of some of the posts tho! :smile::smile:

[mudski]

We all see and understand your train of though in this Touses. Trust me, nearly every member has probably expressed their thoughts on this subject. Me. I'd love to raise it to 50, or set it somehow their post count gets stuck at 24, lol, just to get more dummy spit threads.

[the evil twin]

Ok! Ok! I give in! I shall pack my righteous indignation away never again to see the light of day.

Just my over developed sense of what is right and wrong having a wriggle. Aspergers perhaps?

Did get a big laugh out of some of the posts tho! :smile::smile:

Pffft... without us Aspies the Neurals would be buggered.
Probably wouldn't have even been able to invent the wheel

[mudski]

Pffft... without us Aspies the Neurals would be buggered.
Probably wouldn't have even been able to invent the wheel
Ah it all makes sense now.

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[the evil twin]

Ah it all makes sense now.

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Hehehe... don't get used to it...

“Live your life without ever having to ask, 'What if?”

[taslucas]

Hehehe... don't get used to it...

“Live your life without ever having to ask, 'What if?”
Paradox. "what if I didn't do that?"

>>>tappin from tassie

[the evil twin]

Paradox. "what if I didn't do that?"



No room for paradox in my brain... for example

Alleged Paradox - "What came first the Chicken or the Egg?"
Obvious Answer - "The Rooster"

See, no such thing as a Paradox

"I am, therefore, I do"

[taslucas]

“Live your life without ever having to ask, 'What if?”

Is a paradox

>>>tappin from tassie

[the evil twin]

Is a paradox


Sorry, no such thing as a Paradox in a Logicians world.
They cannot exist by their own definition.

[Plasnart]

Is a paradox

>>>tappin from tassie


Sorry, no such thing as a Paradox in a Logicians world.
They cannot exist by their own definition.

Hang on I check dictionary.

Farrrrrr.................

[taslucas]

The only way to live your life without asking what if is if you know and experience every single infinite possibility. Which is by definition impossible because you can't do that and not do that at the same time.

If the word paradox does not exist in a logicians dictionary then neither does such words as impossible, infinite, start or end.

>>>tappin from tassie

[Plasnart]

Is a paradox

>>>tappin from tassie


Sorry, no such thing as a Paradox in a Logicians world.
They cannot exist by their own definition.


The only way to live your life without asking what if is if you know and experience every single infinite possibility. Which is by definition impossible because you can't do that and not do that at the same time.

If the word paradox does not exist in a logicians dictionary then neither does such words as impossible, infinite, start or end.

>>>tappin from tassie

This show is deep.

[mudnut]

I know a bloke that travelled the world to get material for his thesis to prove we exist. Now if he failed is that a paradox?

[Plasnart]

I know a bloke that travelled the world to get material for his thesis to prove we exist. Now if he failed is that a paradox?

Dunno, but that's typical of academic funding grants.

[the evil twin]

snip...
If the word paradox does not exist in a logicians dictionary then neither does such words as impossible, infinite, start or end.

>>>tappin from tassie

Eggzackery, my friend! That is my whole point.

A paradox only exists to a neural thinker.
For an Aspy there is no start or end, only right, wrong and that which comes next thus all things are possible.
As all things are possible therefore infinity is an abstract and cannot exist either.

[taslucas]

I guess the fact that those words do exist and can be used means they do have meaning.

Lol I had a debate about time with my dad once. He says it's a concept made up by humans. I say it's a way of measuring what already exists.

What's an aspy? If there is only right or wrong then there can't be both simultaneously?


>>>tappin from tassie

[mudnut]

Time is only relevant to each individual. For example, when I enjoy what I am doing, time quickens and when I am bored time seems to slow down.

[taslucas]

Time is only relevant to each individual. For example, when I enjoy what I am doing, time quickens and when I am bored time seems to slow down.
That would be the same as saying distance is only relative to an individual I guess. Walking a kilometre when you're fit and fresh feels a lot less than walking a kilometre when you're completely knackered. Or; the first kilometre of a 20 kilometre walk seems shorter than the last.

>>>tappin from tassie

[the evil twin]

That would be the same as saying distance is only relative to an individual I guess. Walking a kilometre when you're fit and fresh feels a lot less than walking a kilometre when you're completely knackered. Or; the first kilometre of a 20 kilometre walk seems shorter than the last.



Agree... There are many factors that affect perception of distance.

For example, even if you follow the same path, the Pub is always further from your house on the way home than it is on the way there.
Measure it however you like, elapsed journey time, number of paces, ratio of irate abusive spousal phone calls recieved.
Many years ago it could be proven by monitoring the Odometer of your car and sometimes the Pub would be as much as twice as far away from my house at 10 PM as it was at 5 PM.

I call it the Temporal Distillation Factor

[4bye4]

Agree... There are many factors that affect perception of distance.

For example, even if you follow the same path, the Pub is always further from your house on the way home than it is on the way there.
Measure it however you like, elapsed journey time, number of paces, ratio of irate abusive spousal phone calls recieved.
Many years ago it could be proven by monitoring the Odometer of your car and sometimes the Pub would be as much as twice as far away from my house at 10 PM as it was at 5 PM.

I call it the Temporal Distillation Factor

This can also change if you come back from the same pub that you went to, and if you go home to the same home you left from.

[taslucas]

I've been known to take up to three days to get home from the pub

>>>tappin from tassie

[the evil twin]

snip...

What's an aspy?




http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Aspy

[taslucas]

Ahhhhh so to say something is an abstract idea and therefore not possible based on how an aspy sees the world is like saying colour is an abstract thought and does not exist based on how a blind person perceives the world. So therefore terms, words and ideas are real, or not, based on people's perceptions. So something can be impossible, or right and wrong at the same time, or infinite, or even a paradox for one person yet not for another? Lol

>>>tappin from tassie

[4bye4]

Ahhhhh so to say something is an abstract idea and therefore not possible based on how an aspy sees the world is like saying colour is an abstract thought and does not exist based on how a blind person perceives the world. So therefore terms, words and ideas are real, or not, based on people's perceptions. So something can be impossible, or right and wrong at the same time, or infinite, or even a paradox for one person yet not for another? Lol

>>>tappin from tassie

I was half way through reading that and you ceased to exist. Do not attempt to reply to this post as it is non-existant in my mind.

[taslucas]

We're getting there lol

>>>tappin from tassie

[BigRAWesty]

beginning.s



Alleged Paradox - "What came first the Chicken or the Egg?"
Obvious Answer - "The Rooster"

But that still leaves it with no beginning.

[mudnut]

The answer according to David Rabbitborough is the Dinosaur with feathers.

[taslucas]

Or the thing before that, or the thing before that, or the thing before that.....

>>>tappin from tassie