Looking at some new tyres

[outback]

I am looking at a new set of rubber for the patrol.

So far the following options:

1. Yokohama Geolandar A/T G012 - 275/65R17 115H

2. Dunlop GRANDTREK AT3 - 275/65R17 115H

3. Bridgestone Dueler A/T 693 - 275/65R17 114H

Any comments re these would be useful.

[threedogs]

http://www.productreview.com.au/p/dunlop-grandtrek-at3.html
according to this report the Grandtrek are woefull,
Ill try and find some other reviews for you

http://www.productreview.com.au/p/yokohama-geolandar-a-t-s.html
This one is a winner

http://www.productreview.com.au/p/bridgestone-dueler-a-t-d697.html
Second best
My pick would be the Geolander lol

[outback]

TD let me put it this way:
I have had 7 Bridgestone 693's and 2 have had splits in the tread. Not too impressed. All this has been highway work as well.

Dunlop; well just an option.
The Yoko's seem to be better vs the other 2. Funny though Pissant sells the vehicles, Y61's, with the Bridgestone tyres.


Had Heros on the Patrol once. nice semi aggressive tread but they did not last longer than 30k.Also had a high load rating but lower speed rating.

Main concern is new tyres that match the Pissant recommendations or higher as I have to have the patrol go a full inspection, due to GVM upgrade. Don't trust the transport inspectors one bit.

[Robo]

I Can recommend the Yokie Geolanders for black top use, good grip wet n dry & last ok to well for 4x4 tyres.
Off Rd , I cant really advise as my dirt use with them has been very limited.
I would suggest that for clay or slippery grass tracks etc the close pattern lugs would very easily clog up.
Compared to my coopers at3 for the "black top use only" I pick Geolanders, Way way better grip n handling.
good luck.

Oh, on black top Id still recommend Geolander against the bridgestons.
Grips about the same but I recon geo's are much quieter.

I replaced 2x 693 @ 20% worn, as the sound bothered me.
The more aggressive tread coopers AT3 are quieter, go figure that out!
Just looked at some $$ .
wildpeaks approx $280, and Geo's approx $305 each

[mark89]

Considered falken wildpeaks? I had a great run out of mine, no flats great on sand quiet on road and got 70k out of them still had plenty of life but upgraded to srl grabbers

[VK2FMIA]

Tried a set of the Bridgestone Dueler A/T 693, seemed to wear out pretty quick. Currently running Mickey Thompson Baja STZ`s. Good tread life, handle well on dirt, sand, snow, rocks, tar & in the wet. Only downside is they don't do a 275, I'm running 265/65/17. Bit pricey, $380 each last set. On second set now, good fuel economy, no failures, no complaints.

[threedogs]

I ran BFG all terrains with great success, @ 110k I sold them to my BIL
who got another 20K out of them, two things , they tend to tram track
when the tread gets down, and airing them down is not one of their
best points. For outright touring and outback dirt roads like Dig tree rd
Highly recommend

[outback]

Ive given up on the Bridgestone Dueler A/T 693's as the 6 I have are breaking up and at least 2 split. About 30K on them and not really worn.

So just bought 6 Yokohama Geolandar A/T G012 - 275/65R17 115H. current offer buy 3 get 4th free.

[Firetrol]

Ive given up on the Bridgestone Dueler A/T 693's as the 6 I have are breaking up and at least 2 split. About 30K on them and not really worn.

So just bought 6 Yokohama Geolandar A/T G012 - 275/65R17 115H. current offer buy 3 get 4th free.

Bought the same the other day 285/70R17 at $329 each, 5 for the price of 4. Sitting in the shed until I need them.

[threedogs]

Is price an issue or like the rest of us trying to get the best deal we can.
Only saying that as the new Mickey Thompson P3 I think is a ripper

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/our-range/baja-radial-atzp3/

[MyGU8]

Just put a lay-by on Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac 285/70R17 for $1250 for four.

Most likely my current tyres (MT Baja STZ 265/65R17) will last another 10,000kms - roughly 9 months to 1 year, but didn't want to loose the deal 4 for 3.

[Robo]

Bought the same the other day 285/70R17 at $329 each, 5 for the price of 4. Sitting in the shed until I need them.

Yep x2 on the current promotion.
good deal for the product

[sooty_10]

Is price an issue or like the rest of us trying to get the best deal we can.
Only saying that as the new Mickey Thompson P3 I think is a ripper

http://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/our-range/baja-radial-atzp3/
I just ordered myself a set of 5 x MT Atz P3. 275/75/16 @ $310 ea under their mates deals.

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[threedogs]

I just ordered myself a set of 5 x MT Atz P3. 275/75/16 @ $310 ea under their mates deals.

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Thats a ripper deal, who's a happy Sooty

[sooty_10]

Thats a ripper deal, who's a happy Sooty
Local ARB was the cheapest for them too.

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[Hodge]

Local ARB was the cheapest for them too.

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Yeah i got mine at arb as well by far the cheapest surprisingly.
I got quoted the new mtz p3s from there too for shits and giggles and once again way cheaper than others around.

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[4bye4]

Just to throw another into the works, I have been hearing good things about Falken Wildpeak. Anybody used them at all?

[4bye4]

Just to throw another into the works, I have been hearing good things about Falken Wildpeak. Anybody used them at all?

Anyone at all??

[BigRAWesty]

Anyone at all??
Guess that's a no

[4bye4]

I always wanted to be first at something. :)

[outback]

I am not sure how you guys approach tyres. But Mr Ni$$an says for my vehicle a minimum of 275/65R17 114H tyres.

Now I could go to Coopers or other tyres but most have a load/speed rating of 115S.
Legally an S rating is not high enough for most patrols

Price was not an issue with my decision. Load and speed rating was the main issue.

Note an S tyre has a speed of 180km/h for the max load 1215 kg per tyre.
A tyre with H rating has a speed of 210 km/h and using a load rating of 115 = 1250 kg per tyre.
Hence the Yokohama Geolandar A/T G012 - 275/65R17 115H tyre is better from my perspective.

[sooty_10]

I am not sure how you guys approach tyres. But Mr Ni$$an says for my vehicle a minimum of 275/65R17 114H tyres.

Now I could go to Coopers or other tyres but most have a load/speed rating of 115S.
Legally an S rating is not high enough for most patrols

Price was not an issue with my decision. Load and speed rating was the main issue.

Note an S tyre has a speed of 180km/h for the max load 1215 kg per tyre.
A tyre with H rating has a speed of 210 km/h and using a load rating of 115 = 1250 kg per tyre.
Hence the Yokohama Geolandar A/T G012 - 275/65R17 115H tyre is better from my perspective.
Can't say I've done 210km/h let alone 180km/h so meh.....
My tyres are rated 126Q - 160 km/h with 1700 kg per tyre.

Can't see myself getting much past 130km/h when overtaking.

Also doing quick research it seems 4x4 have no requirement to maintain the minimum speed rating as per tyre placards. ADR apparently state minimum speed rating for 4x4 is N (140km/h). Must comply with load rating though and maximum size etc.

Here's an extract from coopers website, I couldn't be bothered doing an ADR search.... feel free to verify or disprove as required.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/04/141.jpg

http://www.coopertires.com.au/tyres-explained/load-speed-ratings/

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[sooty_10]

Thats a ripper deal, who's a happy Sooty
Not a super happy Sooty now....

Went in to get the tyres fitted and the sales chick looks up a catalogue to check if there is white lettering on my tyres for fitting etc.
I look at her a bit funny and say is that a coopers catalogue? Why yes she replies 😠 I then told her in polite terms I ordered Mickey T's, and never even looked at coopers. She tries to tell me well the order code is definitely coopers. Ahhh.....well guess you ordered the wrong bloody tyres.
Turns out the Mickeys are $357 ea 😣 and not $310.

Apparently she mustn't have know the difference between MT atz P3 and cooper at3 when I was in there ordering.

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[bushnbash]

Not a super happy Sooty now....

Went in to get the tyres fitted and the sales chick looks up a catalogue to check if there is white lettering on my tyres for fitting etc.
I look at her a bit funny and say is that a coopers catalogue? Why yes she replies 😠 I then told her in polite terms I ordered Mickey T's, and never even looked at coopers. She tries to tell me well the order code is definitely coopers. Ahhh.....well guess you ordered the wrong bloody tyres.
Turns out the Mickeys are $357 ea 😣 and not $310.

Apparently she mustn't have know the difference between MT atz P3 and cooper at3 when I was in there ordering.

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sooty_10 Did you get a quote for the MT ATZ P3's on the MT web site? If you didn't do it now and they will send you a quote. Once you get you tyres fitted email the receipt to info@mickeythompsontires.com.au and they will send you out a promo pack ( hat,pen,stubbie cooler & a spare wheel cover) It doesn't matter if you get the tyres cheeper than the price that they quote you. I got the ATZ P3's 285/75/16's (paid $365 from Tyrepower) a couple of months ago and love them.
Paul.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Thread bump due 2 bushnbash's post going into moderation.

bushnbash, an intro in the intro thread ( which can be found in my signature ) would be nice that's if you own a Patrol.

Cheers

Toddie

[Col.T]

G'day all,
I've been using Kelly AWR's (or equivalent) for years on a GQ and now a GU.
Dunno if they're sexy or not and they're certainly NOT the intergalactic offroad, mud, rock, sand you name it all round champion tread but they've pulled 2 tons on tar and bad dirt tracks and got us up the odd rocky creek etc. etc..
Around 80K. each time so I just go back and get them again when needed. Being an old fart though, I do treat my tyres with a bit of care as far as driving goes so maybe these aren't the answer for any macho approach. Don't think there's any option though but to meet the legislated requirements regardless of preferences.
Suspect that with treads, it's a case of every man for himself first and advice from others MIGHT help.
Luck,
Col