TD42t Engine Upgrades

[Chappy]

Hey guys,

I'm looking to do some upgrades to my TD42t. I'm currently running a DTS turbo kit, non intercooled at 15psi.

I've just purchased a front mount intercooler & custom intake manifold from a gent so that should be here next week. Have you guys had experience replacing/removing the intake manifold? Any suggestions/tips?

Next on my list is a Performance 4x4 TD05 18G, 12mm pump & Radius Fabrication High Mount exhaust manifold & dump pipe. I don't feel confident installing the pump, but I'd be willing to have a crack at the turbo & manifold, can anyone share any tips on making this easier?

Can anyone personally recommend a shop that I can take it to to have the injector pump installed & tuned? I'm located northern suburbs Melbourne.

Much appreciated & have a happy easter!

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[mudski]

Hey Chappy. Good to hear from you. Hope things are well...I can only Recommend JPC in temple Drive Thomastown. Only because I haven't used anyone else. Just dont go to Turbo Engineering on Settlement rd what ever you do. You will need to re mortgage your house before you get the car back.

[Bloodyaussie]

Chappy the turbo and manifold are pretty straight forward and not much to say except for that last bolt underneath closest to the firewall. .. not as bad when putting in the high mount.

As for the pump just pay to have it fitted and dialed in and get it all tuned ...

I can only speak for jpc on our side of town mate and as mark said STAY WELL AWAY FROM TURBO ENGINEERING.

Yell out if you need a hand mate.

[AB]

What type of intercooler did you get?

As above, some of the bolts are a nightmare of a spot and years of heating and cooling can seize them shut.

Easy job though but I would start spraying every single fixing at least a week before you start to strip everything off.

[Chappy]

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the replies, I've been well just flat out with a new job.
It's a 600x300x76 front mount intercooler. Thanks for the advice against Turbo Engineering, is it just the price or the quality of work too?

Great advice about spraying everything for a week beforehand. Hopefully I don't snap any studs.

I can't wait to get it done. I'm looking forward to having proper power! She was struggling a bit this weekend with 5 people in the car and full to the roof with luggage.

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[mudski]

A quick story of my neighbors Navara whivh had starting and performance issues. Took it to Turbo engineering and was told it will cost 7k to repair. Asked what will they be doing. The answer. Just changing one thing at a time until they fix it. Great way to diagnose an issue... lol
Turned out in the end it was the pressure relief valve in the fuel rail.

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[jay see]

I can only speak for jpc on our side of town mate and as mark said STAY WELL AWAY FROM TURBO ENGINEERING.



I took my last 4x4 there and at the end I sold it with the problem still there.

[Chappy]

G'day guys,

My Performance 4x4 TD05 18G, Radius Fab high mount manifold & dump should be here tomorrow. I'm hoping to install them over the weekend. I'll be chasing some 4" stainless & silicon hose to go from my airbox to turbo. Any suggestions as to where to pick some up between now & then? Northern suburbs Melbourne.

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[mudski]

Down in Temple drive Thomastown is a mob who sells stainless. Tubesales they're called. Same street as JPC. VPW on Cooper street should have 4inch silicone. Maybe pirtek of edgars road?

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[Chappy]

Champion thanks mate :) Lets hope they deliver! Working Saturdays is a pain some times.

[mudski]

Doubt any of the three suggest do. Good luck.

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[Chappy]

I don't think the mrs is going to be happy about sharing the bed tonight..

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[nissannewby]

Could you take a pic of the compreesor and turbine wheels for me please.

[Chappy]

Sure thing. Is this what you're chasing?

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[nissannewby]

Yep Thanks mate.

[Chappy]

No dramas. What did you want to know?

[nissannewby]

Just a bit of a look at their wheel combinations.

[Chappy]

Almost finished, everything has gone really smoothly. Not a snapped stud to be seen. I'd love to finish it off tonight but I have to go out and be social..

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[Rossco]

She's looking awsome chappy. What intercooler did you use and assuming you got it to fit all good with the highmount and all. . .

[AB]

Good work mate, it looks mint, interested to see this on the dyno mate.

[Chappy]

Thanks guys, it's an Aeroflow intercooler.

So everything is done except the dump pipe which I'm waiting for. Can't wait to drive it! It sounds great and spools way quicker than my last turbo.

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[Chappy]

Today I received my dump pipe. I fitted it up tonight and took it for a drive. It's crazy loud, I need to get my exhaust modified asap.

I also had a chat to JPC today, $660 to install the injector pump, injectors and do my valve clearances then $132 per hour for the dyno.

My 12mm pump & injectors should he here Monday, then it's just finding the time to take a couple of days off of work and get it all done.

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[AB]

Today I received my dump pipe. I fitted it up tonight and took it for a drive. It's crazy loud, I need to get my exhaust modified asap. I also had a chat to JPC today, $660 to install the injector pump, injectors and do my valve clearances then $132 per hour for the dyno. My 12mm pump & injectors should he here Monday, then it's just finding the time to take a couple of days off of work and get it all done. <img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66546"/> <img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66547"/> I'm keen to see your dyno results mate, you've done a fair bit of work. Im liking that intake manifold too!

My god our hobbies are ridiculous!!!

[Chappy]

I'm keen to see them too! I'm going to ask for about 230-250hp just to keep it on the safe side. It's a 250hp pump.

They are ridiculous, but I have a big smile on my face every time I drive it so it's worth it in the end.

[Chappy]

Exhaust is booked in for Monday then I'm booked in at JPC on Tuesday to get it all fitted and tuned. Can't wait!!

Now I just have to wait for the pump and injectors to arrive in the post...

[Robo]

Thanks guys, it's an Aeroflow intercooler.

So everything is done except the dump pipe which I'm waiting for. Can't wait to drive it! It sounds great and spools way quicker than my last turbo.

66507

Looking great there mate.
Like to see the dyno print on this
If ya don't mind how much was the plenum?.
and exchange right, posted yours back later, deposit was how much?.
cheers

[Chappy]

Looking great there mate.
Like to see the dyno print on this
If ya don't mind how much was the plenum?.
and exchange right, posted yours back later, deposit was how much?.
cheers

Cheers mate. I actually scored the plenum with my intercooler setup, I purchased it all from a bloke in QLD for $700.

[Chappy]

The 12mm is a beautiful thing. She's sitting at JPC now. Can't wait for this afternoon!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/153.jpg

[Winnie]

Is it ready yet?

[mudski]

The 12mm is a beautiful thing. She's sitting at JPC now. Can't wait for this afternoon!


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/154.jpg

Is that the chopped GU to the right of the pic? That has been there since before mine went in for the conversion last September. I think the owner has run out of money, its had a few rebuilds, by the owners mate apparently and it was grabbing pistons, I think, so now its just sitting there collecting dust. But getting a wash in the rain by the looks of it.

[mudski]

Is it ready yet?

I got tickets that it wont be ready by the end of today. Unless they are quiet. Lol.

[Chappy]

Is that the chopped GU to the right of the pic? That has been there since before mine went in for the conversion last September. I think the owner has run out of money, its had a few rebuilds, by the owners mate apparently and it was grabbing pistons, I think, so now its just sitting there collecting dust. But getting a wash in the rain by the looks of it.
That's a GQ shorty, it was well kitted out.

Unfortunately no it's not ready yet haha

[Winnie]

That's a GQ shorty, it was well kitted out.

Unfortunately no it's not ready yet haha

How about now?

[Chappy]

How about now?
Not quite! I just spoke to them then, there's a good change it will run into tomorrow as it's about 8 hours labour between pump, injectors, valve clearances and dyno tuning

[mudski]

That's a GQ shorty, it was well kitted out.

Unfortunately no it's not ready yet haha

Ahh yep. I think i can see the chopped GU down the back in the workshop...

[Hodge]

Ahh yep. I think i can see the chopped GU down the back in the workshop...
That gu is to the very right of the photo you can see the lights and the bull bar. It's always there.

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[Winnie]

Guessing you didn't get the car back today mate?

[Chappy]

Guessing you didn't get the car back today mate?
Unfortunately not.. I don't mind though. I have tomorrow off also so they can take their time with it.

[Robo]

Cheer up.
Another day closer to the weekend!

[Winnie]

Is it finished yet?

[Hodge]

Is it finished yet?
Nope still there i drove past before .

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[Robo]

Damm.
The waiting game has started.

[Chappy]

Nope still there i drove past before .

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Hah, was it out the front or inside? I haven't got the call yet so I'm guessing they are still going

[Hodge]

It was inside I saw the back of it and bonnet up. This was about 9am .

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[Chappy]

It was inside I saw the back of it and bonnet up. This was about 9am .

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I called them earlier. It's on the dyno currently. Keen as to pick it up!

[gubigfish]

have you got it yet

[AB]

Waiting!!!!!!!!

[mudski]

And waiting.....

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[nissannewby]

173kw and 680nn....

[Winnie]

Where is it???
Is it finished?

[Chappy]

Well holy moly. Easily the best mod I've done so far. It's safe tuned to about 152rwkw, it was 75 prior to the pump. It's sooo nice to drive now! I'll have to keep an eye on my speed as it will be possible to get tickets now!

Mark seems to think that my tyres are sapping about 20-30kw so he said I'm welcome to re run it with some at's for free.

[AB]

Well holy moly. Easily the best mod I've done so far. It's safe tuned to about 152rwkw, it was 75 prior to the pump. It's sooo nice to drive now! I'll have to keep an eye on my speed as it will be possible to get tickets now! Mark seems to think that my tyres are sapping about 20-30kw so he said I'm welcome to re run it with some at's for free. Awesome Chappy, what torque?

[Winnie]

Well holy moly. Easily the best mod I've done so far. It's safe tuned to about 152rwkw, it was 75 prior to the pump. It's sooo nice to drive now! I'll have to keep an eye on my speed as it will be possible to get tickets now!

Mark seems to think that my tyres are sapping about 20-30kw so he said I'm welcome to re run it with some at's for free.

That's awesome mate! There'd be a bit more in it though if you wanted?
What tyres do you have?

[Chappy]

Awesome Chappy, what torque?

Not sure about the torque, I didn't ask & it doesn't have it on the dyno sheet. She pulls like a bus full of school boys now though.


That's awesome mate! There'd be a bit more in it though if you wanted?
What tyres do you have?

Yeah definitely, I just wanted to safe tune as it's more for every day driving/touring now.

33" Federal Couragias. He said because they are an aggressive MT terrain they sap the power.

[Winnie]

Show us a pic of the dyno?

[AB]

Not sure about the torque, I didn't ask & it doesn't have it on the dyno sheet. She pulls like a bus full of school boys now though. Yeah definitely, I just wanted to safe tune as it's more for every day driving/touring now. 33" Federal Couragias. He said because they are an aggressive MT terrain they sap the power. That's strange there's no Torque on the dyno mate. Show us what print out they gave you?

[Rossco]

Well holy moly. Easily the best mod I've done so far. It's safe tuned to about 152rwkw, it was 75 prior to the pump. It's sooo nice to drive now! I'll have to keep an eye on my speed as it will be possible to get tickets now!

Mark seems to think that my tyres are sapping about 20-30kw so he said I'm welcome to re run it with some at's for free.
That's awsome, sounds very nice. Does it start nice and snappy? ? . . .

[Chappy]

I'll take a photo of the dyno sheet shortly and upload it. It starts differently now, it revs up for a split second just as it fires.

[nissannewby]

Well holy moly. Easily the best mod I've done so far. It's safe tuned to about 152rwkw, it was 75 prior to the pump. It's sooo nice to drive now! I'll have to keep an eye on my speed as it will be possible to get tickets now!

Mark seems to think that my tyres are sapping about 20-30kw so he said I'm welcome to re run it with some at's for free.

Unlikely. You will usually see around 20-30kw drivetrain losses. They should be able to put all the info into the machine to get it as accurate as possible. They are only a 33. will normally only see 5-10 % with tyre size changes.

[nissannewby]

Dont delve to deep into my comments. It is a good improvement with nearly double what you started with. And as you say the driveability has improved a lot. Improving driveability is what really makes these things fun to drive.

[Chappy]

Dont delve to deep into my comments. It is a good improvement with nearly double what you started with. And as you say the driveability has improved a lot. Improving driveability is what really makes these things fun to drive.
Exactly. I'm more than happy with the results and it's nice knowing that there's more to come if I want to upgrade again.

[Robo]

Exactly. I'm more than happy with the results and it's nice knowing that there's more to come if I want to upgrade again.

Good to hear your happy with it

A pleasure to drive especially after the $$ spent actually turn your car into a fun thing to drive.
First thing you will notice you'll arrive at your destination less tired as less input as a driver is required.
& if your towing its a huge difference to arrive fresh.

[Chappy]

Good to hear your happy with it

A pleasure to drive especially after the $$ spent actually turn your car into a fun thing to drive.
First thing you will notice you'll arrive at your destination less tired as less input as a driver is required.
& if your towing its a huge difference to arrive fresh.
Definitely. It will be nice not having to constantly run through gears & be driving by the gauges. I'm hoping next weekend I might take her for a run up the Hume and see how it goes.

[Robo]

Definitely. It will be nice not having to constantly run through gears & be driving by the gauges. I'm hoping next weekend I might take her for a run up the Hume and see how it goes.

Don't forget the SPEEDO lol

[Chappy]

I had a chat with Mark at JPC today. They do a 4 Terrain clutch kit for $1600 installed. He tells me another customer of his is making 196kw on 37s with the same clutch. It also comes with warranty, if it slips it will be fixed apparently.
Sounds like a good deal, what do you guys think?

[Winnie]

Hey mate, I asked about these clutches a little while ago.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?37193-4-Terrain-clutches

Beneboy said his 4Terrain was holding up at 750nm

[Chappy]

Hey mate, I asked about these clutches a little while ago.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?37193-4-Terrain-clutches

Beneboy said his 4Terrain was holding up at 750nm
Hey Winnie, thanks for the link. That sounds promising. He said it didn't hold up after the build though, do you know what he did?

[Winnie]

He did an all out performance build... it is full on!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?35084-Some-td42-pics

[Chappy]

He did an all out performance build... it is full on!
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?35084-Some-td42-pics
That's pretty full on!

[nissannewby]

I had a chat with Mark at JPC today. They do a 4 Terrain clutch kit for $1600 installed. He tells me another customer of his is making 196kw on 37s with the same clutch. It also comes with warranty, if it slips it will be fixed apparently.
Sounds like a good deal, what do you guys think?

Kw means nothing. It might have only had 650nm depending on the setup even 4.6s to drive the 37s. I would be looking for one that atleast holds 800nm.

[Chappy]

Kw means nothing. It might have only had 650nm depending on the setup even 4.6s to drive the 37s. I would be looking for one that atleast holds 800nm.
I have that written down from our chat the other night. I still need to ring NPC & ask about their clutches. I'll ring UFI tonight and ask about theirs.

[nissannewby]

I have that written down from our chat the other night. I still need to ring NPC & ask about their clutches. I'll ring UFI tonight and ask about theirs.

Npc viper will do 1000nm. Ufi say 800nm but the one in the test vehicle has help up at 1000+nm. If you go the npc just get the clutch and have your flywheel drilled to suit.

I will also highly recommend lightening the flywheel and have the clutch/flywheel assembly balanced. You will like the difference it makes and it also helps in preventing crank breakages.

[Hodge]

4Terrain are great clutched from my research. They're only around the corner from me just off Settlement rd.
Heres mine sitting in the garage after Mudski didn't need it for his car.

Comes with an uber timber box, if that doesn't sell it, i don't know what will. lol

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67380&stc=1

[Chappy]

Npc viper will do 1000nm. Ufi say 800nm but the one in the test vehicle has help up at 1000+nm. If you go the npc just get the clutch and have your flywheel drilled to suit.

I will also highly recommend lightening the flywheel and have the clutch/flywheel assembly balanced. You will like the difference it makes and it also helps in preventing crank breakages.

I asked JPC about lightening the flywheel and they suggested leaving it as it is, everything else I have heard and read suggests otherwise though. I'm not sure who else in Melbourne I can speak to about getting it all drilled and balanced.

[nissannewby]

I asked JPC about lightening the flywheel and they suggested leaving it as it is, everything else I have heard and read suggests otherwise though. I'm not sure who else in Melbourne I can speak to about getting it all drilled and balanced.

Hence why I dont like them. Need to aim for 1.5 to 2kg of the original weight. Any engine builder/reconditioner should be able to do the drilling, lightening, balancing and facing.

[AB]

I asked JPC about lightening the flywheel and they suggested leaving it as it is, everything else I have heard and read suggests otherwise though. I'm not sure who else in Melbourne I can speak to about getting it all drilled and balanced. Let's stay in contact Chappy as I'm looking at the same thing too except I won't be ready for a month or so $$$

[Chappy]

Let's stay in contact Chappy as I'm looking at the same thing too except I won't be ready for a month or so $$$
No worries mate, sounds good. I'm wanting to get one done before the Licola trip, the boss will confirm tomorrow if I can have the time off or not.

I just got off the phone from Matt at UFI, $850 delivered for their clutch. Good for 1000nm. He said to have my flywheel machined & lightened by 2kg at least.
The workshop across from my work has quoted $700 to fit a clutch for me.

[AB]

No worries mate, sounds good. I'm wanting to get one done before the Licola trip, the boss will confirm tomorrow if I can have the time off or not. I just got off the phone from Matt at UFI, $850 delivered for their clutch. Good for 1000nm. He said to have my flywheel machined & lightened by 2kg at least. The workshop across from my work has quoted $700 to fit a clutch for me. Yep that's the same price I got too for the clutch from ufi.

Sounds like a winner!

[nissannewby]

He said to have my flywheel machined & lightened by 2kg at least.

This thread has an echo....

[Chappy]

This thread has an echo....
There seems to be haha. Thanks for your help and wisdom once again. I'll hopefully order a UFI this week.

[Chappy]

I've done some calling around today, there's a place in Melbourne called Duggan Balancing who can lightening the flywheel by 2kg, balance the pressure plate and flywheel and machine it for $310. Does that seem like a good deal? This new clutch is quickly getting expensive..

[nissannewby]

I've done some calling around today, there's a place in Melbourne called Duggan Balancing who can lightening the flywheel by 2kg, balance the pressure plate and flywheel and machine it for $310. Does that seem like a good deal? This new clutch is quickly getting expensive..

Sounds about right. Usually about 80-120 for machining, around 120 for balancing then the labour to take they weight off.

Lightening is somewhat of a necessity as you are approaching crank snapping territory. Not all break but taking these preventative measures does help with reliability.

[Ben-e-boy]

Mine cost me 250 for machining by one of the local fitter/turners who works a partical board plant, the balancing was done elsewhere with the engine, so I dont know what the flywheel cost alone.

[Chappy]

Great thanks guys, I appreciate the help. Looks like I'll be up for around 2k fitted. Worth it in the long run though.

[Winnie]

It'll definitely be worth it mate.

[Chappy]

It'll definitely be worth it mate.
Definitely!

Just for reference, NPC Viper & flywheel is $1452 delivered to Melbourne. He said I would also need to upgrade to a GU master cylinder & that it's a standard weight flywheel. I enquired about the 6x6 and he said it's good for about 600nm.

UFI it is!

[nissannewby]

Definitely!

Just for reference, NPC Viper & flywheel is $1452 delivered to Melbourne. He said I would also need to upgrade to a GU master cylinder & that it's a standard weight flywheel. I enquired about the 6x6 and he said it's good for about 600nm.

UFI it is!

To add to this reference you can just buy the viper clutch and have your flywheel drilled to suit.

[Irish]

$1600 to do a clutch? Fark, is that about normal?

We did BA's over a weekend back when he was still running the TB and all it cost was the clutch and a loan of a transmission jack.

[gubigfish]

I've been quoted $1400 including clutch from my mechanic

[nissannewby]

$1600 to do a clutch? Fark, is that about normal?

We did BA's over a weekend back when he was still running the TB and all it cost was the clutch and a loan of a transmission jack.

Considering in this instance the clutch is $850 by itself. Its normally around 600 for labour to do the clutch. Then extras like rear main seal, flywheel facing etc.

[Chappy]

nissannewby can I get your thoughts on this? I just played around with my intercooler piping and noticed that one was extremely loose, as in finger tight on the clamp.. I've just tightened everything up and I'm positive it's much quicker. Would a boost leak like that cause such a massive difference?

[AB]

nissannewby can I get your thoughts on this? I just played around with my intercooler piping and noticed that one was extremely loose, as in finger tight on the clamp.. I've just tightened everything up and I'm positive it's much quicker. Would a boost leak like that cause such a massive difference? Pressurised system Chappy. 100% yes

[Chappy]

Pressurised system Chappy. 100% yes
That's awesome, I feel like I've just gained heaps of power for free. My clutch is really going to love me now haha

[nissannewby]

Yes it will. You wont really see a psi loss as such but you are loosing volume. Volume is key to making the power and torque. When running these sorts of pressures and volumes good quality clamps are a must. Andy has been told which ones he should be using. Standard worm drive type clamps really dont cut it.

[Chappy]

Yes it will. You wont really see a psi loss as such but you are loosing volume. Volume is key to making the power and torque. When running these sorts of pressures and volumes good quality clamps are a must. Andy has been told which ones he should be using. Standard worm drive type clamps really dont cut it.
I'll have to source some larger ones. I just have light duty ones currently. I'm really glad I found it.

[AB]

I'll have to source some larger ones. I just have light duty ones currently. I'm really glad I found it. Matty, can you please advise those thin clamps you and Peter mentioned too as I forgot the name and I can't fit the wider angled bolt clamp style on my inlet.

Might be helpful to Chappy too because I'm struggling on that side and just fit the bolt type on my turbo outlet.

[AB]

That's awesome, I feel like I've just gained heaps of power for free. My clutch is really going to love me now haha Worm clamps Chappy are no good mate on our beasts!!!!

[Chappy]

Worm clamps Chappy are no good mate on our beasts!!!!
It looks like I've got worms then... All of mine look like that apart from the big 2 on the intercooler itself.

My new K&N filter arrived today. My Patroldocta box will be modified to fit it in. Helmet for scale.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/06/161.jpg

[nissannewby]

These sorts of ones. Have a thinner 14mm band to make it easier than the 19mm band ones.

[Makka]

These sorts of ones. Have a thinner 14mm band to make it easier than the 19mm band ones.

these are the ones to use this is what we have on trucks we run 30 to 40 PSI but the amount of air that is moved is massive ......... i keep looking at the turbo in the workshop of a 15 litre cat and thinking can i shoe horn this sucker in :D
oh and get spares they do still wear and break but not as near as much as the worm drives

[AB]

These sorts of ones. Have a thinner 14mm band to make it easier than the 19mm band ones. Cheers mate, I've seen those at pirtek and bearing wholesalers down here.

[Chappy]

She had her maiden voyage up the Hume tonight, sitting on 110 the whole way without a single bit of hesitation. Night and day difference from before. EGTs didn't go over 250 the whole time. My clutch is properly cooked now though, it's now started slipping in 3rd. I'll be babying it back home tomorrow.

[Chappy]

Just ordered my UFI clutch, it should be here Monday/Tuesday.
I had my airbox lid modified to fit the 4" K&N pod today too, will be nice to see if it makes a difference.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/06/195.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/06/196.jpg

[AB]

I've done some calling around today, there's a place in Melbourne called Duggan Balancing who can lightening the flywheel by 2kg, balance the pressure plate and flywheel and machine it for $310. Does that seem like a good deal? This new clutch is quickly getting expensive.. Bit of research shows these blokes are a good choice in Melbourne too Chappy.

I'm still trying to save. Will be a slight miracle to get it all done before the trip but fingers crossed!!

[Chappy]

Bit of research shows these blokes are a good choice in Melbourne too Chappy.

I'm still trying to save. Will be a slight miracle to get it all done before the trip but fingers crossed!!
That's good to know, thanks for looking into it. Hopefully you can make it happen in time! How badly is yours slipping?

[AB]

That's good to know, thanks for looking into it. Hopefully you can make it happen in time! How badly is yours slipping? Not at all since the one flair but I'm heading to Fraser Island in September so I have to get it all done before then regardless.

Too risky up there in sand.

[nissannewby]

Remember to be well organised with this. The flywheel needs to be lightened and faced then the flywheel/clutch assembly balanced. So try to get everything booked in a way that it only takes a day or 2. Its achievable the last one I did we had the the flywheel out, lightened, faced, balanced and refitted in less than 48hrs.

[Chappy]

Remember to be well organised with this. The flywheel needs to be lightened and faced then the flywheel/clutch assembly balanced. So try to get everything booked in a way that it only takes a day or 2. Its achievable the last one I did we had the the flywheel out, lightened, faced, balanced and refitted in less than 48hrs.
Thanks mate, hopefully it all goes smoothly. I'm leaving it up to the business that's fitting my clutch to send it off to get it all balanced and machined etc. I've spoken to Duggan Balancing & I'll speak to them just prior to it being dropped off again just so they know exactly what I want. Thankfully it's not a daily so it's no biggie if it takes a week.

[nissannewby]

Thanks mate, hopefully it all goes smoothly. I'm leaving it up to the business that's fitting my clutch to send it off to get it all balanced and machined etc. I've spoken to Duggan Balancing & I'll speak to them just prior to it being dropped off again just so they know exactly what I want. Thankfully it's not a daily so it's no biggie if it takes a week.

What if it rains.....

[Chappy]

What if it rains.....
What do you mean? It's Melbourne, it's always raining anyway

[nissannewby]

What do you mean? It's Melbourne, it's always raining anyway

Just assumed your other mode of transport was the bike. I have never liked riding on the road in the wet

[Chappy]

Just assumed your other mode of transport was the bike. I have never liked riding on the road in the wet
I ride every day except Saturdays to work as the traffic is horrible in the CBD. Plus the GQ won't fit into the underground car park down the road so I'd be feeding the meter every hour. A full set of wet weather gear and bikes with ABS & traction definitely makes things more pleasant haha.

[Chappy]

It's a good day. Clutch has arrived, now just to book it in and get it all done.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/06/251.jpg

[Chappy]

Booked in for tomorrow to get it all done. Asked for 1.5-2kg lightened. Will hopefully all be done by the weekend.

[nissannewby]

Did it get done?

[Chappy]

Did it get done?
Still waiting. 3 day turnaround getting it lightened & balanced etc. Should hopefully pick it up tomorrow.

[AB]

Still waiting. 3 day turnaround getting it lightened & balanced etc. Should hopefully pick it up tomorrow. I must've stolen you spot mate...lol

[Chappy]

I must've stolen you spot mate...lol
Are you getting yours done at Duggan too? Hopefully I get the call today!

[mudski]

Duggan balancing still around? Wow we used to use them 20 plus years ago. I had forgotten about these guys. All this talk about lightening flywheels and balancing makes me want to do the same. Something i should have done when I did the motor but my funds were already way over stretched. I'll just have to look out for a second hand flywheel to get so I can it lightened and then make a time to swap it over. Lol Thanks guys! More money.

[AB]

Are you getting yours done at Duggan too? Hopefully I get the call today! Yeah I got them to do it last week mate.

[AB]

Duggan balancing still around? Wow we used to use them 20 plus years ago. I had forgotten about these guys. All this talk about lightening flywheels and balancing makes me want to do the same. Something i should have done when I did the motor but my funds were already way over stretched. I'll just have to look out for a second hand flywheel to get so I can it lightened and then make a time to swap it over. Lol Thanks guys! More money. I'll have a spare one soon the forum can use for rotating if Matty doesn't want it?

[Chappy]

Zzz mechanics haven't heard back from Duggan yet. Looks like it will be Wednesday at the earliest. Oh well, at least I have the girlfriends little Hyundai to zip around in..

[nissannewby]

I'll have a spare one soon the forum can use for rotating if Matty doesn't want it?

Mudskis motor will be different. I wouldnt mind getting your one back.

[mudski]

Yeah mines different... Not a big thing at the moment. I just want to get this intake setup on now that I have a comp housing coming.

[AB]

Mudskis motor will be different. I wouldnt mind getting your one back. No probs....

[nissannewby]

They are cheap to buy from dubai.

[AB]

Zzz mechanics haven't heard back from Duggan yet. Looks like it will be Wednesday at the earliest. Oh well, at least I have the girlfriends little Hyundai to zip around in.. Duggans was bloody busy when I turned up. I said I needed it that day as I'm never on that side of town so they managed to squeeze me in.

[Chappy]

Duggans was bloody busy when I turned up. I said I needed it that day as I'm never on that side of town so they managed to squeeze me in.
Hopefully that's a sign of quality work then. As long as I have her back by this weekend so I can give her a service I'll be happy.

[AB]

Hopefully that's a sign of quality work then. As long as I have her back by this weekend so I can give her a service I'll be happy. Their name is scattered all over auto forums in a good way mate ;)

[Chappy]

Just got the call. It's all done & paid for. I'll pick her up after work tonight.

[mudski]

Just got the call. It's all done & paid for. I'll pick her up after work tonight.

Zoom Zoom!

[Winnie]

Just got the call. It's all done & paid for. I'll pick her up after work tonight.

Now when you and your bro are driving to Licola, you need to race through the hills and see who goes better ;)

[Chappy]

Now when you and your bro are driving to Licola, you need to race through the hills and see who goes better ;)
We've had a few little races so far and it's extremely close. I reckon the trusty old diesel will get him though!

[Winnie]

Yeah through the hills you should be all over him mate! Awesome!
Still keen to have a good look at his wagon though, lol.

[Chappy]

Yeah through the hills you should be all over him mate! Awesome!
Still keen to have a good look at his wagon though, lol.
Let's hope haha. He is going to do a MAFless tune & mild cam at some stage, I don't like my chances when that happens! It's an absolute best of a rig though, he's done very well for himself.

On the topic of my bus, ever since I've had the pump & injectors fitted it has started really rough and blown puffs of white smoke when cold, especially on super cold days. I spoke to the blokes at Performance 4x4 and they have told me my timing needs to be advanced. I'm going to have a hunt around and see if I can find another place to tune it properly.

[nissannewby]

Let's hope haha. He is going to do a MAFless tune & mild cam at some stage, I don't like my chances when that happens! It's an absolute best of a rig though, he's done very well for himself.

On the topic of my bus, ever since I've had the pump & injectors fitted it has started really rough and blown puffs of white smoke when cold, especially on super cold days. I spoke to the blokes at Performance 4x4 and they have told me my timing needs to be advanced. I'm going to have a hunt around and see if I can find another place to tune it properly.

Interesting. Was the timing set at what they told you to set it at?
Usually this happens when the pump hasnt quite been setup right. Its not a timing thing and is something that has to be set on a bench.

How much weight did they get out of the flywheel?

[Chappy]

Interesting. Was the timing set at what they told you to set it at?
Usually this happens when the pump hasnt quite been setup right. Its not a timing thing and is something that has to be set on a bench.

How much weight did they get out of the flywheel?
The mechanics that fitted it never got in contact with P4x4 apparently so they just set it to what they thought would work.

I was told 1.5-2kg.

[mudski]

Let's hope haha. He is going to do a MAFless tune & mild cam at some stage, I don't like my chances when that happens! It's an absolute best of a rig though, he's done very well for himself.

On the topic of my bus, ever since I've had the pump & injectors fitted it has started really rough and blown puffs of white smoke when cold, especially on super cold days. I spoke to the blokes at Performance 4x4 and they have told me my timing needs to be advanced. I'm going to have a hunt around and see if I can find another place to tune it properly.

Yeah funny about that. Mine does this too. But it has to be really cold for it to do this. It will only sputter for about 5 seconds, no longer, bitta smoke, then its good.

[Chappy]

Just picked it up. Damn that clutch feels completely different from my last one. Much heavier and grabier on takeoff.

[AB]

Just picked it up. Damn that clutch feels completely different from my last one. Much heavier and grabier on takeoff. Awesome Chappy, what was your original clutch, oem?

[Chappy]

Awesome Chappy, what was your original clutch, oem?
It was an Exedy HD Tuff Clutch. Obviously not that tough though..
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/07/231.jpg

[AB]

It was an Exedy HD Tuff Clutch. Obviously not that tough though.. Yeah ok mine was the TC too.

God damn we're idiots Chappy...lol

[Chappy]

Yeah ok mine was the TC too.

God damn we're idiots Chappy...lol
Haha oh well, at least we know not to recommend them! That being said, it held up with the old setup beautifully.

[nissannewby]

Yeah ok mine was the TC too.

God damn we're idiots Chappy...lol

Your is a safari tuff. Which is actually a heavier one than chappy has posted a picture of. The sports tuff is heavier than stock but not as heavy as the safari tuff. There is also a hd version of the safari tuff which is good for around 750nm.

[AB]

Your is a safari tuff. Which is actually a heavier one than chappy has posted a picture of. The sports tuff is heavier than stock but not as heavy as the safari tuff. There is also a hd version of the safari tuff which is good for around 750nm. Yeah I know. I honestly thought back then there were no other options of safari tuff clutches grades...lol

[Chappy]

Your is a safari tuff. Which is actually a heavier one than chappy has posted a picture of. The sports tuff is heavier than stock but not as heavy as the safari tuff. There is also a hd version of the safari tuff which is good for around 750nm.
No wonder mine was slipping like crazy then... I can't wait to take it for a proper drive now to see how it goes.

[Chappy]

Quick question for the experts, is there anything I should or shouldn't be doing to break the new clutch in? I'm guessing don't flog it for a little while?

[nissannewby]

Quick question for the experts, is there anything I should or shouldn't be doing to break the new clutch in? I'm guessing don't flog it for a little while?

Just drive it normally mate. A few hard pulls once everything is warmed up is fine but not all out drag racing runs. Once you have done 500-1000km then all will be fine.

[Chappy]

Just drive it normally mate. A few hard pulls once everything is warmed up is fine but not all out drag racing runs. Once you have done 500-1000km then all will be fine.
Perfect, just what I needed to know. Thanks for that.

[mudski]

Perfect, just what I needed to know. Thanks for that.

I'll meet you down at Greenwood Drive tonight for a drag Chappy. That'll wear it in just nicely! Lol.

[Chappy]

I'll meet you down at Greenwood Drive tonight for a drag Chappy. That'll wear it in just nicely! Lol.
Haha, how far away do you live from Greenwood Drive?

[mudski]

Haha, how far away do you live from Greenwood Drive?

Its my old stomping ground. I went to Greenwood primary, then Macleod Tech. Lived in Lea Crescent until I was 26. Lost my licence for 8 months having a drag down Greenwood dve back in the day... I was on first name basis with the Greensborough cops. Lol.

[nissannewby]

We can go to the drag strip every Wednesday night up here. Sometimes even friday nights.

[nissannewby]

The mechanics that fitted it never got in contact with P4x4 apparently so they just set it to what they thought would work.

I was told 1.5-2kg.

Did they give a confirmed figure on this when you took delivery?

[Chappy]

Did they give a confirmed figure on this when you took delivery?
I picked it up after hours. I'll give them a call on Monday. I asked them to ask for 1.5-2kg. It definitely feels different to before. Feels great though, can't wait to do a few kms and see what it's got.