Seat Belt Retractors GU IV

[Dr Gary]

My front seat belt retractors have lost a lot of "pull" so the belts stay slack when undone.
The only remedy I have found on the web is to wash the belt, let it dry uncoiled. I have not tried that yet-thought there may be a real solution out there.
Comments?

So I did the wash thing with Palmolive dish detergent and water. Did not seem to do much good, but after a few days, the soap softened and now ---SUCCESS.
My belts retract unassisted.

[threedogs]

There is a thread on it some where cost is $360 for two front retractable belts

[Sir Roofy]

I think Bob had the same trouble cant remember what he did thinking it had to do with soap

[rusty_nail]

I think Bob had the same trouble cant remember what he did thinking it had to do with soap

did he clean the belt? because mine retracts slowly but i believe its because the belt is dirty and is getting caught on the top belt guide

[threedogs]

Bob sand papered the slot up on the B pillar

[Sir Roofy]

Bob sand papered the slot up on the B pillar

Yep that's it but thought he cleaned it to

[rusty_nail]

Bob sand papered the slot up on the B pillar

i might have to do the same thing when i get home lol

[Dr Gary]

There is a thread on it some where cost is $360 for two front retractable belts
For that money I will just lift it onto the seat when I get out

[threedogs]

For that money I will just lift it onto the seat when I get out

You would think it would be a warranty thing eh

[the evil twin]

Fully extend the belt.
Inspect the sides of the belt for fraying and trim off any frayed fibres
Replace the belt if sides are noticeably frayed over several inches or more than 5% across or there are any cuts
Belts are webbed and stretch under load like a snatch strap
If the fraying is severe it may mean ALL the fibres in the belt are compromised

If the belt is OK then;
Scrub the belt with either (in order of preference);
Dry Cleaning fluid or a good upholstery cleaner or very hot soapy water (use a mild detergent not truck wash).

Check and clean the aperture the belt runs thru using the above cleaning fluid and a brush
Sand if needed but usually doesn't.

The above works maybe 95% of the time.
I am not a fan of silicone spray methods myself.

[GeeYou8]

Had the same thing happen on the work Getz.
Clean the slot where it runs through, use Mr Sheen on a cloth (slippery stuff).
Graham

[Dr Gary]

Fully extend the belt.
Inspect the sides of the belt for fraying and trim off any frayed fibres
Replace the belt if sides are noticeably frayed over several inches or more than 5% across or there are any cuts
Belts are webbed and stretch under load like a snatch strap
If the fraying is severe it may mean ALL the fibres in the belt are compromised

If the belt is OK then;
Scrub the belt with either (in order of preference);
Dry Cleaning fluid or a good upholstery cleaner or very hot soapy water (use a mild detergent not truck wash).

Check and clean the aperture the belt runs thru using the above cleaning fluid and a brush
Sand if needed but usually doesn't.

The above works maybe 95% of the time.
I am not a fan of silicone spray methods myself.

Did the wash and dry thing with Palmolive dish detergent--improved things a lot so may redo it in a week or so. This is the solution I found on Google except they remove the belt and soak it overnight.

[threedogs]

I bit more on the frayed belt bit if its too frayed it will be un road worthy and dangerous to boot.
replace it as soon as possible, don't play with safety.

I wonder if the 7 seat belts would fit in the front, mine are just tucked
down the D pillar, anyone done this
EDIT;;;;;Does anyone know if they fit

[Dr Gary]

I bit more on the frayed belt bit if its too frayed it will be un road worthy and dangerous to boot.
replace it as soon as possible, don't play with safety.

I wonder if the 7 seat belts would fit in the front, mine are just tucked
down the D pillar, anyone done this
EDIT;;;;;Does anyone know if they fit

Ask Mr Nissan for part numbers--may be the same front and back back.

[BillsGU]

Some years ago I tried all of the ideas you guys have suggested and a few more. None of them worked for me and I was really getting pizzed with belts catching in doors and not sitting properly. At the end of the day if you did have an accident and the belt is not positioned correctly - it could actually do more harm than good.

In frustration I spent the money and bought the belts from here: https://www.seatsafe.com.au/

They are far better than the originals and I have had no issues since.

No point in getting original Nissan belts - in a short time you would have the same issues again. Bite the bullet - clear out the moths - and spend a few pounds (yep I bet you still have some tucked away) on decent belts!

[threedogs]

I just did a check for pricing and availability, GRrrrrrr seems they dont do belts to suit a series3 4 door wagon
I have to buy OE, so hot soapy water here I come

[BillsGU]

I just did a check for pricing and availability, GRrrrrrr seems they dont do belts to suit a series3 4 door wagon
I have to buy OE, so hot soapy water here I come

You need to call them and speak to them. They originally said the same to me because their information said mine had pre tensioners built in - which they don't. Not sure about yours - but if they don't have pre tensioners I'm fairly sure they would be the same as mine (GU2 4 door).

[Bacho86]

There was a Serivce bulletin released on this some time ago. Not sure if it'll be of any use and most off its probably already been covered by others but I'll put it up anyway for information

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/03/189.jpg

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[Bacho86]

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[BillsGU]

Yep - seen that before as well. I have used many, many different seat belts in different cars over a lot of years and I never had to use "cleaning wire" or "cleaning tape" or any other shyte. The belts have always worked - except in Patrols.

The fact is the wind mechanism in the belt loses its tension reasonably quickly and just won't work. You would think that after years of this crap Nissan would have woken up to the fact some time ago and replaced the belts in later cars - but they didn't. When I installed the new belts I tried to pull the old ones apart as I thought they could be wound on a bit more. Good luck trying that! The after market ones work perfectly.

[Firetrol]

I have the same problem on my 2010 Patrol. Interestingly it is on the passenger front, not the drivers which obviously have had much more use.

[TonyD261012]

I'll give this a go today, had the drivers side replaced as part of the deal when I bought but the passenger side is also sticking

[Beni C]

Wish I had of seen this a couple of weeks ago, paid $160 for two from a wreckers and they are just as bad as my originals!!

[Eben]

I am having the same issue, I might try the cleaning method before pumping any money into it.

[DX grunt]

I was gunna post something about this too, but somebody beat me to it.

I changed my driver's seat belt only around 5 years ago and it's doing the same thing.

Will try the suggestions provided and get back to you with the result.

Take care out there.

Rossco

[Gun517]

I have done it with metho and work well

[threedogs]

Yep - seen that before as well. I have used many, many different seat belts in different cars over a lot of years and I never had to use "cleaning wire" or "cleaning tape" or any other shyte. The belts have always worked - except in Patrols.

The fact is the wind mechanism in the belt loses its tension reasonably quickly and just won't work. You would think that after years of this crap Nissan would have woken up to the fact some time ago and replaced the belts in later cars - but they didn't. When I installed the new belts I tried to pull the old ones apart as I thought they could be wound on a bit more. Good luck trying that! The after market ones work perfectly.

How long did it take to install the new ones, Im sick of the sloopy one I have atm

[BillsGU]

How long did it take to install the new ones, Im sick of the sloopy one I have atm

About 30 minutes a side. If I had to do it again it would be quicker. You have to change the receiver on the seat as well because they come as a set.