Now The Drivers Door Wont Open!!!

[growler2058]

FFS the bloody drivers door wont open from inside or out, locked or unlocked using one handle or two, jiggling the lock etc etc. How the hell do i open it? I cant even pull the door trim off to suss out the problem if i cant open the bastard door!! Looks like the Baja Bug is gunna be my daily soon! :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

[nissannewby]

Pull the window trims off and see if you can get to the mechanism. With the window down of course

[Bob]

FFS the bloody drivers door wont open from inside or out, locked or unlocked using one handle or two, jiggling the lock etc etc. How the hell do i open it? I cant even pull the door trim off to suss out the problem if i cant open the bastard door!! Looks like the Baja Bug is gunna be my daily soon! :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

Take it to a Panel Beater.

If not climb in from Passenger side and remove Front Drivers side Seat and you should be able to take off Door Trim

[growler2058]

Take it to a Panel Beater.

If not climb in from Passenger side and remove Front Drivers side Seat and you should be able to take off Door Trim

It'll need more than a bloody panel beater in a minute!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

i haven't got my GU here but can you see the mechanism if the back door is open?

[BigRAWesty]

I had the gq rear door stop working once..
Easiest way was to remove the seat and get in..
I'd sat this will be the same..

[growler2058]

NAh the bloody trim is hard up against the rubber door seal. I tell ya the things that are sent to bloody test me!!!!!!!!!!

[taslucas]

And Agatha chuckles away quietly in the background

>>>tappin from tassie

[Winnie]

Use a grinder and cut a big hole in the outside of the door, you should be able to access the mechanism that way.

[Clunk]

Just keep your window down and get in Dukes of Hazard style hahahahaha

[taslucas]

Use a grinder and cut a big hole in the outside of the door, you should be able to access the mechanism that way.
What!? Are you some kind of butcher!!?


Use a hole saw, way neater

>>>tappin from tassie

[growler2058]

And Agatha chuckles away quietly in the background

>>>tappin from tassie


Use a grinder and cut a big hole in the outside of the door, you should be able to access the mechanism that way.


Just keep your window down and get in Dukes of Hazard style hahahahaha


Caring
Understanding
Nineties
Types

[the evil twin]

Use a grinder and cut a big hole in the outside of the door, you should be able to access the mechanism that way.


What!? Are you some kind of butcher!!?


Use a hole saw, way neater

>>>tappin from tassie

Jeez, bit tough calling him a Butcher if you suggest a hole saw... anyone with an ounce of trade skills would use an Oxy Acetelene Torch.

[Clunk]

Jeez, bit tough calling him a Butcher if you suggest a hole saw... anyone with an ounce of trade skills would use an Oxy Acetelene Torch.
Nahhhh tin snips are way more graceful

[Bob]

FFS the bloody drivers door wont open from inside or out, locked or unlocked using one handle or two, jiggling the lock etc etc. How the hell do i open it? I cant even pull the door trim off to suss out the problem if i cant open the bastard door!! Looks like the Baja Bug is gunna be my daily soon! :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

Just donate the Patrol to Roofy as that will solve two problems.
Roofy is back on the Road and you wont have a bloody Heart Attack

[taslucas]

Jeez, bit tough calling him a Butcher if you suggest a hole saw... anyone with an ounce of trade skills would use an Oxy Acetelene Torch.
I'd be lucky to have a gram of trade skills

>>>tappin from tassie

[Clunk]

Hey Growler, you Can't Understand Normal Thinking

[Clunk]

I think Growler would rather us be Cheerleaders Understanding & Nurturing Together

[threedogs]

Jeez, bit tough calling him a Butcher if you suggest a hole saw... anyone with an ounce of trade skills would use an Oxy Acetelene Torch.

Soooooooooo ole school using the Oxy these days break out the plasma cutter. lol

There was a thread recently about this very problem, within last 3 weeks at least

[Ibbo]

Quickest way is to drive straight into the side of it with a forklift and jiggle up and down a few times. Not only will you have a nice access hole in the drivers door, but you will also have one in the rear door should that fail in the future. Efficiency my friends.

[garett]

can you remove the lever bit and see if it is connected ?

[growler2058]

can you remove the lever bit and see if it is connected ?

I cant see anyway in theres no screws at all

[garett]

have you looked at this ? http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?25724-GU-Door-Trim-Removal-(how-to-guide)
is it the same ?

[garett]

should be able to pull the lever out and feel if it is connected. if you can't pull it manually get your angle grinder out.... cut the roof off :P

[garett]

this may help too. http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-patrol-gu-gr-10/my-door-wont-open-28417/

not sure if you looked or not but hope it helps

[Chubba]

Just keep your window down and get in Dukes of Hazard style hahahahaha

I don't remember ever seeing Boss Hogg doing that Clunk.
65176

[threedogs]

I can see you loving this CRD Patrol,
go out and buy another "Agatha" never
had these probs eh

[growler2058]

I don't remember ever seeing Boss Hogg doing that Clunk.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=65176&stc=1


Im gunna ride your back with my @#$% up your @R$3 when i get back

[Cuppa]

You probably don't want to read this Growler, but when you do you'll probably wish you'd read it sooner.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?36276-Warning-DX-door-locks

[growler2058]

You probably don't want to read this Growler, but when you do you'll probably wish you'd read it sooner.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?36276-Warning-DX-door-locks

Cheers and i even posted in that thread @##$##@^&&&*()@@@#!!!

[Winnie]

Cheers and i even posted in that thread @##$##@^&&&*()@@@#!!!
And mentioned that yours is not 100% right... Tut Tut Tut. You should have checked it out then!

[growler2058]

And mentioned that yours is not 100% right... Tut Tut Tut. You should have checked it out then!

Get f@cked.

[TPC]

I just read through this whole thread and have to say I am very impressed at how sympathetic everybody has been with your problem.

[threedogs]

Ok you had time to F$%#@&en look at your p&^%$$ of s%$#*@ DX
have you been able to F$#@*&N open the $&^%$#@*R door yet.?

[growler2058]

Ok you had time to F$%#@&en look at your p&^%$$ of s%$#*@ DX
have you been able to F$#@*&N open the $&^%$#@*R door yet.?

No.........

[threedogs]

right have you thought about,,,,,,,,,,, Who on earth designs a door you cant open total BS eh

[the evil twin]

I just read through this whole thread and have to say I am very impressed at how sympathetic everybody has been with your problem.

ROFLMAO...

Most people looking for 'sympathy' around here can find it in the Dictionary after 'Sarcasm' between 'Shit' and 'Syphilis'

Some people get help right away... others get teased a little bit first.
It's a Cat and Mouse sorta thing that can be quite theraputic at times.

[growler2058]

right have you thought about,,,,,,,,,,, Who on earth designs a door you cant open total BS eh

Yup the thought has crossed my mind a LOT

[rusty_nail]

at least growlers has a thick enuff skin to take the heat lol, some others round here arent really as tough

[jack]

Maybe bite the bullet, remove the front seat and cut the door trim open. Cheaper than some other suggestions.

How's that for being constructive and sympathetic?

[threedogs]

This is just a thought , but do you have the right Patrol, dont you lol
EDIT::: CHECK NUMBER PLATE

[Wizard52]

Maybe bite the bullet, remove the front seat and cut the door trim open. Cheaper than some other suggestions.

How's that for being constructive and sympathetic?

Probably won't help if it the same problem I had with the actual locking mechanism being broken as the connecting rods won't unlock it.
Only suggestion is to see a panel beater as they must have seen it before or Mr Nissan as a safety issue. Good luck and let us know how it eventually works as it will happen to more and more of us over time.

[Cuppa]

Good luck and let us know how it eventually works as it will happen to more and more of us over time.

I'll echo that - I'm hoping there might be a trick of the trade which makes the resolution relatively painless, but if not I think we need to hear all the gory details! (& I'm not laughing at TD's last post - honest :) )

[mudski]

Pull the window trims off and see if you can get to the mechanism. With the window down of course

If you do this you should have some access to the lock. The outer window trim does come off with the door shut.

[growler2058]

If you do this you should have some access to the lock. The outer window trim does come off with the door shut.

I havent had much luck trying to get the window trim off, feels like ill bugger it when ive tried

[growler2058]

I'll echo that - I'm hoping there might be a trick of the trade which makes the resolution relatively painless, but if not I think we need to hear all the gory details! (& I'm not laughing at TD's last post - honest :) )


mmmmmm I dont really wanna go cutting a hole in the bloody door

[Softy]

Tried swearing at it? Doesn't seem to help much.. But makes me feel better.

[mudski]

I havent had much luck trying to get the window trim off, feels like ill bugger it when ive tried

Yeah they are a bugger to come off. Easier with the window down, the inside of the window trim had steel clips. So its made to not come off with ease.
Or do they have a screw in one end?.... Hmm I cant remember now.

[Cuppa]

If it's as Wizard suggests then neither removing the inner trim or cutting a hole in the door sound like solutions, but I guess removing the trim & hoping to find a busted or misplaced connecting rod can't make things worse............. but I reckon a call to Mr Nissan first might be wise.

[mudski]

You want me to see exactly how it comes off, from my car...

[threedogs]

I'll echo that - I'm hoping there might be a trick of the trade which makes the resolution relatively painless, but if not I think we need to hear all the gory details! (& I'm not laughing at TD's last post - honest :) )

You know the story you go to Bunnings ,,,come out every white GU looks the same,,,,just saying
I friend did it years ago when I was a subby at the Ford factory, Bloke said take my blue HQ to lunch
he did and parked it a different position, seems a HQ key would open nearly every HQ when worn lo
Its possible eh

[threedogs]

Would winding the window up and down touch the rod inside enough to be able to release the door look

[the evil twin]

Should only take 2 minutes or less using the following tried and tested old school method

Go to (insert appropriate station name for your state here) Railway Station Car Park.
Stand near the vehicle and shout;
"I am not a Cop."
"I betcha $10 you can't open the Drivers Door on this car"
Only works at night tho... and don't take your wallet

Also works on siezed wheel nuts, don't even have to yell anything.
Just park up and walk off for 10 minutes.
When you get back the wheel nuts will be off.
Don't forget to have someone arranged to deliver 4 new rims, tyres and 2 dozen new nuts tho

[threedogs]

So this is a problem with all DX's is it,,,, surely then there must be a fix for it then

what a shizzen thing to have happen if the wife borrows the car, Im thinking all
kinds of horrible,

[the evil twin]

snip,,,, surely then there must be a fix for it then



Buy an ST?

[growler2058]

Buy an ST?
I deliberately didnt want elec windows or carpet :(

[threedogs]

And thats paying for itself now how,,,,,,,, looks like you need to remove the driver seat not that hard to do.
and take it from there, which ever way you look at it the drivers seat needs to come out eh sad as that may be.
Only 4 bolts

[growler2058]

And thats paying for itself now how,,,,,,,, looks like you need to remove the driver seat not that hard to do.
and take it from there, which ever way you look at it the drivers seat needs to come out eh sad as that may be.
Only 4 bolts

Still wont be able to get the door cards off though

[threedogs]

Can you put some welding wire {coat hanger] down in between the trim with a hook .
and try and jiggle something that way

[Clunk]

Can you put some welding wire {coat hanger] down in between the trim with a hook .
and try and jiggle something that way


I'm sure he could but whether he would want to jiggle it with that sort of tool is another matter altogether

[garett]

break off the interior trim and replace it with a sheet of aluminium...

[growler2058]

Ive had enough for now. I'll tackle it next week and make some calls also

[MudRunnerTD]

Remove the door trim on the passenger side door so you can see what your aiming for mate. The mechanisms are all rods. Figure out the rod you need to manipulate on the passenger door and you should be able to come up with a plan for getting to it with the door shut.

[Cuppa]

Remove the door trim on the passenger side door so you can see what your aiming for mate. The mechanisms are all rods. Figure out the rod you need to manipulate on the passenger door and you should be able to come up with a plan for getting to it with the door shut.

Not sure that this is relevant, but in the past I owned a sucession of Ford XE's & XF's, well known for busted door handles. On numerous occasions I had to pull door skins off & muck around with connecting rods. The rods operated by the exterior handle & the rods operated by the internal handle were separate. Consequently if the external handle broke, the door could still be opened from inside, & vice versa. The fact that Growler is unable to open the door from both inside & outside unfortunately has me thinking that this is not a 'rod issue' & that getting access into the inside of the door is unlikely to resolve the problem.

If it is as Wizard posted, the problem part requires access to the actual locking mechanism from the rear outside of the door, & therein lies the problem.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?36276-Warning-DX-door-locks Post #14

[threedogs]

I know the Gman specifically want manual windows ,but to eliminate this problem
would it be worth fitting remote locking, just saying. This would Pi$$ me off no
end if it happened to me. Would it worthwhile to ring a mobile mechanic to
come around and have a look. Is there a sure fire fix for this problem or will it re occur?

[Clunk]

burnt the piece of shit and get Agatha back

[threedogs]

hoping this may help a tad

[mudski]

hoping thi may help a td
That's useless mate. He cant remove the trim. Not entirely. The pic may help navigate around the lock.

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[threedogs]

That's useless mate. He cant remove the trim. Not entirely. The pic may help navigate around the lock.

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well he's clutching at straws atm

[growler2058]

Yeah it's fukd
To get in some major damage has to happen. And I'm not committed to that just yet


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[Maxhead]

Have you tried putting a key in it and opening it ???





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[jack]

That the front seat out, remove the trim from the pillar. It must have an opening as the seat belt retraction gear is in there.

There may be a way to get to the bolts holding the part to the pillar. Use a sabre saw with a metal blade or cold chisel to cut them off if you can't undo them.

[growler2058]

Have you tried putting a key in it and opening it ???





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Ohhhhhhhyeah..............


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[my third 256]

last resort maybe is to take front fender off to get to the hinges and remove bolts then door will come off completley as there is no electricts to the door should be simple enough
there is a thread about replacing door hinges somewhere i think maybe by the ferrett
hope this helps
ps see you at the send off for the boys going north maybe
stephen

[threedogs]

Surely you can put a piece of wire down inside the door cavity with a hook
and try and disturb something. I think if you can get your window to work the
door may well open too. Stuff it just burn it lol buy Agatha back

[Cuppa]

last resort maybe is to take front fender off to get to the hinges and remove bolts then door will come off completley

Good post. Not sure about 'last resort'. Quite possibly 'only resort' short of destroying the door. ..... Im guessing this might be what Mr Nissan might do.

[Bob]

As I said before take it to a Panel Beater.

[the evil twin]

As I said before take it to a Panel Beater.

... trying to introduce logic to the thread at this point may not work, Cobber :-)

[growler2058]

As I said before take it to a Panel Beater.

I'm away for the weekend keeep my my distance from it BoB but most likely will do, or the Nissan man


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[garett]

x2 on the panel beater any good one will advise the cheapest option... might just need to reskin the door.

[threedogs]

Glove box is still ok eh lol

[Wizard52]

hoping this may help a tad

That is exactly what you have to do BUT the door has to be open to do it. While it is shut you cannot undo the 3 screws mentioned to remove and replace the $308 mechanism

[Wizard52]

That the front seat out, remove the trim from the pillar. It must have an opening as the seat belt retraction gear is in there.

There may be a way to get to the bolts holding the part to the pillar. Use a sabre saw with a metal blade or cold chisel to cut them off if you can't undo them.

I had not thought of that. By removing the catch that the door locks onto might be the way to go. Surely there are nuts holding the catch and not inserts so if accessible, it should be possible to undo nuts and latch will slide out with minimal damage when door is opened.

[Wizard52]

last resort maybe is to take front fender off to get to the hinges and remove bolts then door will come off completley as there is no electricts to the door should be simple enough
there is a thread about replacing door hinges somewhere i think maybe by the ferrett
hope this helps
ps see you at the send off for the boys going north maybe
stephen

The problem I see with this that the lock in the door is still locked to latch on body work so something will be damaged if when hinges are removed and door opened from the front. If all else fails, this might be only way.

[Cuppa]

The problem I see with this that the lock in the door is still locked to latch on body work so something will be damaged if when hinges are removed and door opened from the front. If all else fails, this might be only way.

Pretty sure Apollofish suggested the possibility of attacking the problem via the door pillar? If the bolts which hold the ‘loop’ that the door latches onto are accessible from behind they may be able to be ground off?

[threedogs]

Its gone on way to long, surely a dealer would know what to do.

[Clunk]

Its gone on way to long, surely a dealer would know what to do.
Nah not really, pretty sure he went away for a few days

[Wizard52]

Its gone on way to long, surely a dealer would know what to do.

Would not be to confident with local dealer with 4 different franchises operating out of the 1 service centre

[taslucas]

89 posts and growler is still doing the dukes of hazard entry... I'd say it's time to track down Agatha

>>>tappin from tassie

[garett]

one of these should work nicely http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWMT70785-Air-Chisel-Hammer/dp/B00OK3TWUC :p

[jack]

It's a week now growler, have you tried anything yet?

At least go and see a panel beater.

[threedogs]

Did you turn it into a convertible Lol

[threedogs]

Bumped ,,,,,,,,,,,need an update mate this is not good at all,

[Irish]

Growler, have you tried turning it off and on again?

[growler2058]

Still Dukes of Hazarding it.

Pulled the centre pillar cover off in hope of being able to access the latch. But the nuts are captive @#$%. Plan is to hit Nissan up when it goes in for the airbag recall

[growler2058]

Growler, have you tried turning it off and on again?

Ahhh Fwark! HAdnt thought of that, i'll give it a go tomorrow. Youre a thinkin mans man china!:eck05:

[taslucas]

Can you take out the bit of plastic that's behind the inside handle?

>>>tappin from tassie

[mudnut]

I have resisted stirring you up on this Growler, as I reckon I'd be goin' round the twist trying to get the door fixed but I think it's time you gave Gandalf the White a call.

[Maxhead]

It's been two weeks now you kamikaze f@ck nut





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[growler2058]

Can you take out the bit of plastic that's behind the inside handle?

>>>tappin from tassie

Haven't tried but don't think it'll help. I can hear and feel the lock working. It's would seem it's the latch mechanism as described earlier. I've been digging around with coat hangers, using expletives, a small amount of physical violence and many threats of fire


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[growler2058]

I have resisted stirring you up on this Growler, as I reckon I'd be goin' round the twist trying to get the door fixed but I think it's time you gave Gandalf the White a call.

Please sh1t stir me! I'm happy to have a giggle. I would be doing the same to anyone else in my position ;)


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[mudnut]

Get an inspection camera from SCA for $50-$70 and have a look inside the door. That way you might be able to see what is going on. Saved me a lot of mucking around when a ring fell into the air ducting on the dash.

[growler2058]

Now that's a brilliant idea!!


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[taslucas]

Haven't tried but don't think it'll help. I can hear and feel the lock working. It's would seem it's the latch mechanism as described earlier. I've been digging around with coat hangers, using expletives, a small amount of physical violence and many threats of fire


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But it might help you see in there. Especially with a bum probe., um I mean inspection camera

>>>tappin from tassie

[mudnut]

Now that's a brilliant idea!!


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Just call me Gandalf :) I hope it works for you though.

[GeeYou8]

Have you tried getting someone to push the door closed while you try inside and or outside handles?
Inspection camera is a good idea.
Unhelpful idea: Have you checked the tyre pressures are correct?"
Graham

[the evil twin]

Panhard Bushes... it's always the Panhard Bushes... and don't forget to disconnect the Battery for 30 minutes or the MAF will get dirty and stop the oil lubricating the outside of the Intercooler

[lhurley]

Panhard Bushes... it's always the Panhard Bushes... and don't forget to disconnect the Battery for 30 minutes or the MAF will get dirty and stop the oil lubricating the outside of the Intercooler

30 mins is to long. 27.3650 minutes. Might have low headlight fluid as well

[Stropp]

i think its just say fu growler you bought a bug, i will show you a bug :)

[growler2058]

i think its just say fu growler you bought a bug, i will show you a bug :)

I think you're probably right. I tried to explain to her that its not a replacement, but i rekon shes pissd

[GeeYou8]

Mine popped the radiator just after we looked at a new Titanium, then did an alternator when we looked at a used one. I showed her traded her on a demo.
Graham

[4bye4]

LOL This thread gets better and better. I've got a loose earth in the rear lights that comes good every time I get a multimeter out. Don't try to fix any more, just open the tool box and all good.

[mudnut]

What's the go, "G" man??

[the evil twin]

I reckon borrowing one of them humungous electromagnet thingies they mount on Cranes at the Scrap Yards and energising it next to the door should loosen the mechanism.

[growler2058]

What's the go, "G" man??

2/3 of farkall. Trying to get one of those camera thingys to shove in the door to see if I can get something else in there to Manipulate the forker


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[growler2058]

TD Cut n pasted from another thread


The only way is to drill the f@rkr out from inside the door at the back find the littl farkr latch then release the door and replace mechanism........ basically its a #### of a thing and the farkwit engineer at nissan that came up with it needs a farkn bullet. I currently have a drivers door trim that is farkd and still a locked door until i buy a new mechanism $300 plastic piece of shit. When i have \that I'll drill the old farker out

[threedogs]

I have faith in you G man, you telling me you haven't used this Patrol
for over a month........??????

[growler2058]

I have faith in you G man, you telling me you haven't used this Patrol
for over a month........??????

No not at all. Im taking advanced yoga classes

[threedogs]

Fark man you need this fixed before you know what

[growler2058]

Fark man you need this fixed before you know what

Just reminded me to order a new latch

[Cuppa]

Although I wouldn't wish Growler's experience on anyone there is possibly a positive to all this, at least for me. I mentioned previously in Wizard's thread (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?36276-Warning-DX-door-locks&highlight=door+lock) that locking & unlocking my driver's door has always been a bit 'idiosyncratic' ever since I bought the car. Wizard commented that was how the problem on his had begun. However because it works each time, albeit with a bit of dicking around, turning the key in one direction & then the other, it's been easy to convince myself that it 'has some life left in it yet'.

Yesterday I was out & about & three times I had more trouble locking/unlocking than usual. Couldn't turn the key forwards or backwards, giving rise to a degree of panic that I'd 'done a Growler'. Thankfully persistence finally got the key to turn on each occasion, but three times has been enough to make me very reluctant to lock the door again. Were it not for Growler's experience, despite Wizard's warning, I'd likely have continued with fingers crossed, but have now decided that it would be very wise to fork out the $300 for a replacement latch assembly, & not to lock the door again until I do.

So thanks Wiz & Growler

[Winnie]

Now what is your address Cuppa where you park the unlocked car?? :)

growler2058 are you getting better at gymnastics?

[growler2058]

My yoga is awesome! It's do or die this weekend. I've got a new lock from Patrolapart. With forum discount it's the cheapest option I found. I've searched the Internet and it seems I need to drill the mechanism out to get to the latch to free the bastard (not the key hole) keep your ears out for some screams of anguish or joy this weekend


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[the evil twin]

snip... keep your ears out for some screams of anguish or joy this weekend



You haven't got time for sex... get out and fix your Patrol

[Chubba]

My yoga is awesome! It's do or die this weekend. I've got a new lock from Patrolapart. With forum discount it's the cheapest option I found. I've searched the Internet and it seems I need to drill the mechanism out to get to the latch to free the bastard (not the key hole) keep your ears out for some screams of anguish or joy this weekend


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GOOD LUCK me matey.

[growler2058]

GOOD LUCK me matey.

I think I'll need it. Its gunna be as tight as a fishes arsehole getting a drill in there

[the evil twin]

snip... keep your ears out for some screams of anguish or joy this weekend




You haven't got time for sex... get out and fix your Patrol


I think I'll need it. Its gunna be as tight as a fishes arsehole getting a drill in there

Holy Cow... that explains why there are screams of anguish

[GeeYou8]

Although I wouldn't wish Growler's experience on anyone there is possibly a positive to all this, at least for me. I mentioned previously in Wizard's thread (http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?36276-Warning-DX-door-locks&highlight=door+lock) that locking & unlocking my driver's door has always been a bit 'idiosyncratic' ever since I bought the car. Wizard commented that was how the problem on his had begun. However because it works each time, albeit with a bit of dicking around, turning the key in one direction & then the other, it's been easy to convince myself that it 'has some life left in it yet'.

Yesterday I was out & about & three times I had more trouble locking/unlocking than usual. Couldn't turn the key forwards or backwards, giving rise to a degree of panic that I'd 'done a Growler'. Thankfully persistence finally got the key to turn on each occasion, but three times has been enough to make me very reluctant to lock the door again. Were it not for Growler's experience, despite Wizard's warning, I'd likely have continued with fingers crossed, but have now decided that it would be very wise to fork out the $300 for a replacement latch assembly, & not to lock the door again until I do.

So thanks Wiz & Growler

This sound more like a worn key, if the key won't turn it is the barrel not the lock itself. My GU2 ST had the same problem, it worked fine with the remote but was a pain with the key without a remote (I didn't take the one and only remote on the boat incase it got wet). The key wears at the same rate as the ignition barrel, but the door barrels wear less as you usually use the remote.
Try some powdered graphite in the barrel.
If you have a new key, get a plain key cut for opening the doors, you can get this one wet, but clean any salt off it before inserting in the barrel.
Graham

[Cuppa]

Thanks for the thought. No remote on a DX. I'd like to think you are right, but I'm not convinced. Same key operates the passenger door as perfectly. When it opens the driver it works smooth as. The key doesn't look especially worn. Car has only done 170,000 kms, mainly country/outback driving. The pattern seems to fit with what Wizard said. I'll give it a squirt of graphite, but I'm not holding my breath on it being the solution. I'll also try my spare key which is as new.

[growler2058]

Holy Cow... that explains why there are screams of anguish

HAH D1ckhead!! :)

[growler2058]

Thanks for the thought. No remote on a DX. I'd like to think you are right, but I'm not convinced. Same key operates the passenger door as perfectly. When it opens the driver it works smooth as. The key doesn't look especially worn. Car has only done 170,000 kms, mainly country/outback driving. The pattern seems to fit with what Wizard said. I'll give it a squirt of graphite, but I'm not holding my breath on it being the solution. I'll also try my spare key which is as new.

Also I didnt lock it when it shat itself. Its whatever actuates the latch, not necessarily the "locking" part of the equation

[mudnut]

Don't break the bloody drill in the door, growler. That would make it near impossible to fix the latch.

[growler2058]

Don't break the bloody drill in the door, growler. That would make it near impossible to fix the latch.

It's all plastic what I'll be drilling into from what I can tell looking at the new one so hopefully I can't stuff up that badly. But thanks for planting the seed of doubt hahAhaha

[threedogs]

Hopefully that will get it sorted ?

[Cuppa]

There’s a whole community out here holding their breath with you Growler. Hurry up I’m turning blue.

[the evil twin]

There’s a whole community out here holding their breath with you Growler. Hurry up I’m turning blue.

You live in Victoria mate... Blue is your natural colour 'cept for about 3 weeks in mid Summer...

[Clunk]

There’s a whole community out here holding their breath with you Growler. Hurry up I’m turning blue.
Youve already waited 2 months, im sure a couple more weeks wont hurt ya [emoji12]

[Cuppa]

You live in Victoria mate... Blue is your natural colour 'cept for about 3 weeks in mid Summer...

S'pose you'll be getting a campervan with one of those woosy heaters then?

Or perhaps you'll appear to us little Smurfs wrapped up & looking like the Michelin man. ;)

[Cuppa]

Youve already waited 2 months, im sure a couple more weeks wont hurt ya [emoji12]

Are you serious, do you know how hard it is to type without taking a breath?

[the evil twin]

snip...

Or perhaps you'll appear to us little Smurfs wrapped up & looking like the Michelin man. ;)

You betcha...

Hey, while I got ya, is it true Vics grow beards so they can set fire to them and thaw their lips in an emergency or is that just Qlders being smart rrses

[Cuppa]

You betcha...

Hey, while I got ya, is it true Vics grow beards so they can set fire to them and thaw their lips in an emergency or is that just Qlders being smart rrses

Ha ha ha.
Mate....... You are the king of the comebacks, I'm looking forward to the entertainment.

[Touses]

You betcha...

Hey, while I got ya, is it true Vics grow beards so they can set fire to them and thaw their lips in an emergency or is that just Qlders being smart rrses

Arrant lies! It is well known that Qlders are Gods gentlefolk. We would never suggest that Vics are ignorant enough to immolate a perfectly good beard.

It is however widely held in Gods country that VB is imbibed by our frozen cousins for it's inherent anti freeze properties!

[MudRunnerTD]

Have you priced a replacement door from a wrecker? White will be easy to get. If it's say $100 for a door with no door card then I reckon I'd near on get a 4" grinder out and cut a big hole from the outside and open it. Then take the door off and replace it...... Probably would have done that about 2 months ago ;)

[threedogs]

Sadly but MR may have the quickest solution,
"get the ST" she says "no Ill get the DX much better no electrics to go wrong"lol
Nearly there

[growler2058]

So today is the day. I've got shit to do first up this morning so it'll be a lunch time onwards job. Here's some pics of the new door latch. The plan is to destroy the plastic cover for want of better words to enable access to the internal workings. It will require drills pliers screwdriver and some extreme expletives
I would really like to find the designer of this system and cut their nuts out with a wooden spoon. I've been looking at this lock for the last hour seeing if precision drilling of the latch pin would work but then the snapped drill becomes a reality as mentioned in an earlier post. Also to cheer every other GU owner up. During my research this bastard of a problem exists on ALL Patrol models not just the DX. You have been warned
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/116.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/117.jpghttp://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/118.jpg


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[Winnie]

Can't wait to read how you fark this up!

[growler2058]

Can't wait to read how you fark this up!

I hate you

[Winnie]

I hate you
I already knew that and no point in trying to change things so I'll just make it worse :)

[growler2058]

The more i look at it the more im thinking of trying to drill out the pivot

[Clunk]

Oh so that's the new lock mechanism, good luck with that ......... might have more success giving it to TD to use as a radiator cap

[growler2058]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/121.jpg


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[MudRunnerTD]

That's great! I hope you have found support from the Forum Membership and in depth technical advice to help you manage this problem.

Great outcome! Well done NP.com.au yet again!! We are a Machine!!!

[threedogs]

Looks painless enough yes/no lol

[growler2058]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/122.jpg

Tools required
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/123.jpg


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[mudnut]

Side by side pics would be good to compare what happened, growler.

[growler2058]

That's great! I hope you have found support from the Forum Membership and in depth technical advice to help you manage this problem.

Great outcome! Well done NP.com.au yet again!! We are a Machine!!!

Oh yeah nAH!

[BigRAWesty]

Awesome stuff..
Looks like drilling worked a charm...
👍👍👍👍👍👍

[happygu]

So ..... you just unlocked it with the key ...... and then took the inner door panel off to fix the lock

Great Stuff ..... :)

[growler2058]

Mudnut see below the new one and where I've used a cold chisel to smash the plastic off just at the top where the levers are. I
didn't even bother trying to drill anything out. It was a s tight as a ducks arse and looked way too hard. The plastic was very brittle and only took two light taps and the top plastic and the lever that's connected to the outside door handle rod blew apart. The door then opened with the inside door handle. Easy as! Reinstalling the new one took 5 minutes very easy to do. All together shut the door and F*CK ME DRUNK the bastard wouldn't open again!!!! FARK FARK FARKkkkkkkkk!!!!!!! WTF! Back in removed the door lock rods and the door could open again???? WTF again??? So I've removed the mechanism and compared it with the old one thinking I'd put a connecting rod in the wrong spot but nup all good. Put it all back together latched the door manually without shutting it this time and sure enough the door handles won't reopen it WTF??! Remove the lock rods and wallah opens. Take the whole bloody thing off again and find there isn't bugger all movement in the new mechanism locking levers. There's a bloody problem with the new mechanism. But I can open the door just can't lock the bastard now. I will contact ptrolapart Monday and see what can be done. I can't send them this one back to changeover as I won't be able to drive me car so hopefully we can work something out. So result. Yep I can get in and out of the drivers door YAY! Can lock all the doors except the drivers side now Bastard but not the end of the world I've got secure parking. I have one door card that is 100% FUBAR oh well I don't have to practice my YOGA multiple times a day now. I might pull it apart tomorrow and have a look at it again just to make sure I haven't done anything stupid. If the new latch worked then all up time to do the job is less than an hour including taking out the front seat. Pretty easy really but destructive
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[growler2058]

Awesome stuff..
Looks like drilling worked a charm...


No drilling just a hammer and a 400mm cold chisel

[growler2058]

So ..... you just unlocked it with the key ...... and then took the inner door panel off to fix the lock

Great Stuff ..... :)

I wish it were thatr simple :)

[Touses]

Oh yeah nAH!

And after all the effort Clunk put in here (and in other threads). You're a hard man Growler!

[BigRAWesty]

No drilling just a hammer and a 400mm cold chisel
Yea sorry..
Sarcasm didn't come threw well..
Good to see its open..
So..
are the dx and St locks the same??

[mudnut]

Glad you got the door open at last. Bugger the new lock doesn't work though.
Maybe Mr bean had the right idea.

[threedogs]

ST's are electric and the DX is just key and linkages I think.
So the mighty DX has its demons as well.

[MudRunnerTD]

Your gunna miss climbing in the window mate!!

[Clunk]

are you sure its not an issue with the locking rod linkage type thingy as opposed to the new plastic thing you bought............................


oh and by the way



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[mudnut]

Has the linkage or door handle stretched or bent in any way, causing the mechanism not to move enough to operate?

[growler2058]

Yea sorry..
Sarcasm didn't come threw well..
Good to see its open..
So..
are the dx and St locks the same??

I believe so?

[Chubba]

Cool.. Now you can come to the Gawler Rangers with us Saturday.

[growler2058]

ST's are electric and the DX is just key and linkages I think.
So the mighty DX has its demons as well.

Yes but the mechanism to lock is the same. Its not the actuation whether elec or manual of the lock thats the problem. Its the bastard internal workings that simply wear out

[growler2058]

are you sure its not an issue with the locking rod linkage type thingy as opposed to the new plastic thing you bought............................


oh and by the way
[QUOTE=mudnut;675646]Has the linkage or door handle stretched or bent in any way, causing the mechanism not to move enough to operate?

No, even disconnecting all linkages the locking part doesnt move freely to lock

[threedogs]

Is there anyway you can see,,,,,,,, to prevent it wearing out,
or just one of the DX quirks,? LOL

EG hold the linkage up with a cable tie etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[growler2058]

Is there anyway you can see,,,,,,,, to prevent it wearing out,
or just one of the DX quirks,? LOL

EG hold the linkage up with a cable tie etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,

No there isnt.
It can affect ALL GU's. The part number is the same for ALL GU variants

[threedogs]

Ok so the doors open, now other than the $300 lock what other costs did you manage
.eg 1 case of Johnnie Walker, pkt aspirin, 6 x bandaids

[growler2058]

I'm up for another door trim. And still need another new lock as this one has a fault locking now
Personal costs are bit of bark off me knuckles an amount of mental anguish
Positives I can flex my back due to the recent forced yoga


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[growler2058]

Removed the lock in its entirety this morning to make sure I wasn't having a brain fart moment or two
Small vid below of the difference in movement between the old and the new. It's fair to judge that the old one has a wear factor but not to the extent that it has 75% more travel
https://vimeo.com/165729333


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[mudnut]

Maybe someone assembled it wrongly. I bought a brand new fuel sender for a Falcon once and it went from full to 1/2 back to full as some idiot had crimped both ends to the earth.

Try and get the supplier to email you a vid of another new assembly's movement.

[growler2058]

I'll be ringing them tomorrow to discuss my options

[threedogs]

Fair bit of movement in that lower one,
Hopefully Monday will sort it all out lol

[mudski]

So what preventative measures you think can be taken on the mechanism?

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[growler2058]

So what preventative measures you think can be taken on the mechanism?

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Sweet FA. everything ive read says nadda. Apparently the problem is a plastic pin 3mmx6mm that simply wears out. I smashed the fark out of mine and cant find the worn bit now

[rusty_nail]

Sweet FA. everything ive read says nadda. Apparently the problem is a plastic pin 3mmx6mm that simply wears out. I smashed the fark out of mine and cant find the worn bit now

have you thought about upgrading the door to an ST door so that you can prevent this happening again? would that stop your problems?

[Maxhead]

would that stop your problems?

hahah, there isn't much which will stop his issues[emoji3]

[threedogs]

What the verdict on the lock mechanism ???

[growler2058]

I'm buying another one and will get refunded when I return the FUBAR one.
rusty_nail at risk of repeating myself the mechanism is the same on all GU Patrols

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2016/05/144.jpg


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[threedogs]

Good to hear ,,,so all's not completely lost.
Now put it together and drive it eh lol

[rusty_nail]

snip... at risk of repeating myself the mechanism is the same on all GU Patrols[/IMG]

sorry mate missed that one =(

[growler2058]

sorry mate missed that one =(

Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever

[growler2058]

Well blow me down and strike me pink the bloody door lock started working!?!??!? Of course I've already ordered and payed for a new new one
For some reason I went to unlock the door with the key (even though it wasn't locked) and instead locked it. Heard the central work and thought mmmm tried the door and it wouldn't open (coz I locked it thinking I was unlocking an already unlocked door) panic quickly set in thinking here we freekin go again. Tried the key again central locking noises (this time unlocking) tried the door and wahlah it worked tried it manually and yeeha all good inside n out happy days


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[Maxhead]

Well blow me down and strike me pink the bloody door lock started working!?!??!? Of course I've already ordered and payed for a new new one
For some reason I went to unlock the door with the key (even though it wasn't locked) and instead locked it. Heard the central work and thought mmmm tried the door and it wouldn't open (coz I locked it thinking I was unlocking an already unlocked door) panic quickly set in thinking here we freekin go again. Tried the key again central locking noises (this time unlocking) tried the door and wahlah it worked tried it manually and yeeha all good inside n out happy days


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I reckon it always worked Td....Ahhh I mean G-Man

[Clunk]

Well blow me down and strike me pink the bloody door lock started working!?!??!? Of course I've already ordered and payed for a new new one
For some reason I went to unlock the door with the key (even though it wasn't locked) and instead locked it. Heard the central work and thought mmmm tried the door and it wouldn't open (coz I locked it thinking I was unlocking an already unlocked door) panic quickly set in thinking here we freekin go again. Tried the key again central locking noises (this time unlocking) tried the door and wahlah it worked tried it manually and yeeha all good inside n out happy days


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Well at least now you'll have a spare

[growler2058]

Well at least now you'll have a spare


Nup at $300 im cancelling my order

[rusty_nail]

Congrats mate

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[Cuppa]

Well done Growler, You'll have to take one of those relaxing drinking & bug eating holidays soon to recover from all that mental anguish.
Thanks heaps for posting the video. I just bought the same mechanism ($290 delivered off ebay) & I'll check it's operation based on your video before installing. And yep, I found the same thing - fitted to ALL GU's, not just DX's

[growler2058]

In less than 6 weeks Cuppa I'll be eating bugs!
I don't know why the thing started working. I was driving over lots of speed humps and through paddocks so maybe something bumped it into place, even though I had been giving it gentle taps trying to sort it


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[BigRAWesty]

In less than 6 weeks Cuppa I'll be eating bugs!
I don't know why the thing started working. I was driving over lots of speed humps and through paddocks so maybe something bumped it into place, even though I had been giving it gentle taps trying to sort it


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Nek minute...
Back to square one!!

[growler2058]

Ok I have a theory why the lock didn't move when I had it out of the vehicle. Today I noticed I can't lock the door with the internal "button/lever" while the door is open. Stops you from locking your keys in the car I spose. The door can only be locked internally when it's closed or with the key from outside if that makes sense. Doesn't explain why it wouldn't move when it was shut yesterday or over the weekend whenever I played with it


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[Clunk]

Ok I have a theory why the lock didn't move when I had it out of the vehicle. Today I noticed I can't lock the door with the internal "button/lever" while the door is open. Stops you from locking your keys in the car I spose. The door can only be locked internally when it's closed or with the key from outside if that makes sense. Doesn't explain why it wouldn't move when it was shut yesterday or over the weekend whenever I played with it


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What about when you lift the door handle, then depress the lever?

[Cuppa]

Ok I have a theory why the lock didn't move when I had it out of the vehicle. Today I noticed I can't lock the door with the internal "button/lever" while the door is open. Stops you from locking your keys in the car I spose. The door can only be locked internally when it's closed or with the key from outside if that makes sense.



Yep, that's how they are designed to work.

[growler2058]

What about when you lift the door handle, then depress the lever?

Farked if I know? And I'm not gunna stuff around with it now it's working 100%

[growler2058]

Yep, that's how they are designed to work.

I couldn't get it to lock even by manually closing the latch when it was out of the car. I'm just happy now it works

[Clunk]

I couldn't get it to lock even by manually closing the latch when it was out of the car. I'm just happy now it works
Thats what Im saying, to manually lock it when the door is open, lift the handle then press the button

[growler2058]

Thats what Im saying, to manually lock it when the door is open, lift the handle then press the button

I dont wanna fark with it now that it works. I'll just wait for it to sh1t itself at the worst possible time :)

[nissannewby]

$100au plus shipping from dubai

[growler2058]

$100au plus shipping from dubai

Damn......

[Clunk]

I dont wanna fark with it now that it works. I'll just wait for it to sh1t itself at the worst possible time :)
Pussy....... hahahahaha

[Cuppa]

$100au plus shipping from dubai


Damn......

Double damn

[Cuppa]

Not happy. New door lock arrived in the mail (having taken 9 days to arrive from Townsville - bought it on ebay from a Queensland Nissan dealer) & it's damaged. Looks like it's been dropped, & has 2 broken pieces of plastic & a further fracture. If fitted I expect it would work, but would leave a gap for dust & crap to get inside the workings over time. Wish I'd taken it out of it's Nissan packet before leaving feedback. As it is I phoned the dealership this morning & the bloke in the parts department was pretty helpful, he has to consult with his boss but he agreed that I should be sent a replacement. Looks like I'll have to avoid locking my door for a while longer. Amazing how you just take the ability to secure your vehicle for granted until you can't!

66881

66882

[nissannewby]

9 days from townsville....

The last order I got from dubai was shipped saturday and I received it yesterday. So 5 days.

[jack]

Not happy. New door lock arrived in the mail (having taken 9 days to arrive from Townsville - bought it on ebay from a Queensland Nissan dealer) & it's damaged. Looks like it's been dropped, & has 2 broken pieces of plastic & a further fracture. If fitted I expect it would work, but would leave a gap for dust & crap to get inside the workings over time. Wish I'd taken it out of it's Nissan packet before leaving feedback. As it is I phoned the dealership this morning & the bloke in the parts department was pretty helpful, he has to consult with his boss but he agreed that I should be sent a replacement. Looks like I'll have to avoid locking my door for a while longer. Amazing how you just take the ability to secure your vehicle for granted until you can't!


Looks like growler has been at it first. Refund and order one from Dubai?

[Cuppa]

Parrys Nissan in Townsville have been very good. No quibbling & good communication. They have put a replacement door lock in express mail to me this morning.

[growler2058]

Not happy. New door lock arrived in the mail (having taken 9 days to arrive from Townsville - bought it on ebay from a Queensland Nissan dealer) & it's damaged. Looks like it's been dropped, & has 2 broken pieces of plastic & a further fracture. If fitted I expect it would work, but would leave a gap for dust & crap to get inside the workings over time. Wish I'd taken it out of it's Nissan packet before leaving feedback. As it is I phoned the dealership this morning & the bloke in the parts department was pretty helpful, he has to consult with his boss but he agreed that I should be sent a replacement. Looks like I'll have to avoid locking my door for a while longer. Amazing how you just take the ability to secure your vehicle for granted until you can't!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66881&stc=1

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66882&stc=1

I didnt lock mine when it shat itself. Just closed the door and FUBAR

[growler2058]

9 days from townsville....

The last order I got from dubai was shipped saturday and I received it yesterday. So 5 days.

Yeah yeah rub it in hahahahahhaa

[Cuppa]

I didnt lock mine when it shat itself. Just closed the door and FUBAR

I working on the theory that your one was further gone than mine. (aka wishful thinking).

[growler2058]

I working on the theory that your one was further gone than mine. (aka wishful thinking).

I assume you have to send the damaged one back?

If not it would be good to dissect that one and have a good look inside to see the pin that wears out

[Cuppa]

I assume you have to send the damaged one back?

If not it would be good to dissect that one and have a good look inside to see the pin that wears out

Not sure if it needs to be returned yet. I told them I’d be happy to return it if they cover the postage, & they asked for a photo of the damage so they can make a claim to Nissan. The chap who will make the decision about it being returned isn’t there until next Tuesday. I have the impression that they may not want it back but will have to wait & see.

[the evil twin]

Not sure if it needs to be returned yet. I told them I’d be happy to return it if they cover the postage, & they asked for a photo of the damage so they can make a claim to Nissan. The chap who will make the decision about it being returned isn’t there until next Tuesday. I have the impression that they may not want it back but will have to wait & see.

May I suggest a liberal application of the Clunk Universal Malfunction Correction Tool to the lock before the pic.

I am sure the lock will then be yours for all eternity

[Clunk]

May I suggest a liberal application of the Clunk Universal Malfunction Correction Tool to the lock before the pic.

I am sure the lock will then be yours for all eternity
Or a big fuck off hammer

[Cuppa]

:D
Surely you meant the Clunk Universal Nocking Tool ET?

Too late the pics already been sent. I reckon there is a good chance they'll tell me to keep it, but if not there is the old one to pull apart & examine.

[the evil twin]

May I suggest a liberal application of the Clunk Universal Malfunction Correction Tool to the lock before the pic.

I am sure the lock will then be yours for all eternity


Or a big fuck off hammer

Same thing, you say tomato I say tomatoe

[Wizard52]

So what preventative measures you think can be taken on the mechanism?

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How about recall by Nissan to replace with something that won't wear out. After all it is a safety issue if you can't get out of the vehicle in an emergency

[growler2058]

Agree it's a safety issue


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[gaddy]

Just putting it out there , hows the condition of the hinges , if they are worn , and being a big heavy door all the weight will sit on the catch and locking mechanism, causing it to bind up . Just a thought

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[threedogs]

Growler I take it its all sorted now that the new $300 locks are fitted ??
How long is a piece of string

[growler2058]

Well ive got a string line thats 300m

[Maxhead]

Well ive got a string line thats 300m

Is that too short or too long ?

[growler2058]

Is that too short or too long ?

Weeellllll that depends on the application ol cock

[jack]

How long is a piece of string

Every piece of string I've ever had has always been twice as long as half its length. Simple really.

[growler2058]

Every piece of string I've ever had has always been twice as long as half its length. Simple really.


Oooow I like that one

[Plasnart]

Every piece of string I've ever had has always been twice as long as half its length. Simple really.

Personally I've found the strings that are 4 times as long as a quarter of their length work much better.

[Clunk]

Growler I take it its all sorted now that the new $300 locks are fitted ??
How long is a piece of string threedogs that's pot calling kettle black hey mate

[GeeYou8]

Useful stuff string.
It is waterproof.
No it isn't.
It's water resistant.
No it isn't.
It's water absorbent, away with workaday floods & tidal waves.

[threedogs]

threedogs that's pot calling kettle black hey mate

All I meant was how long till it failed again lol FW

[Cuppa]

Not sure if it needs to be returned yet. I told them I’d be happy to return it if they cover the postage, & they asked for a photo of the damage so they can make a claim to Nissan. The chap who will make the decision about it being returned isn’t there until next Tuesday. I have the impression that they may not want it back but will have to wait & see.

The well packaged & undamaged replacement door lock turned up in the mail today. Despite having learned since ordering it that I could have bought the same thing from Dubai for 1/3rd of the price, & the first one arriving damaged, I reckon that Parry Nissan in Townsville deserve a plug. I had already left them feedback (on Ebay) before I discovered the damage. Plenty of ebay sellers wouldn't have wanted to know once they had received the feedback, but Callum at Parrys was polite, helpful & professional, & sorted it all out quickly. Wish more ebay sellers were like Parrys.
I'm still waiting to hear if they want the damaged one back, but suspect that they won't unless Nissan want more than photographic proof.

[growler2058]

All I meant was how long till it failed again lol FW

About 8 years

[my third 256]

The well packaged & undamaged replacement door lock turned up in the mail today. Despite having learned since ordering it that I could have bought the same thing from Dubai for 1/3rd of the price, & the first one arriving damaged, I reckon that Parry Nissan in Townsville deserve a plug. I had already left them feedback (on Ebay) before I discovered the damage. Plenty of ebay sellers wouldn't have wanted to know once they had received the feedback, but Callum at Parrys was polite, helpful & professional, & sorted it all out quickly. Wish more ebay sellers were like Parrys.
I'm still waiting to hear if they want the damaged one back, but suspect that they won't unless Nissan want more than photographic proof.
have you got a link for the lock from dubai

[Cuppa]

have you got a link for the lock from dubai

Not me, but I expect Matty has.

$100au plus shipping from dubai



The last order I got from dubai was shipped saturday and I received it yesterday. So 5 days.

[MudRunnerTD]

So today is the day. I've got shit to do first up this morning so it'll be a lunch time onwards job. Here's some pics of the new door latch. The plan is to destroy the plastic cover for want of better words to enable access to the internal workings. It will require drills pliers screwdriver and some extreme expletives
I would really like to find the designer of this system and cut their nuts out with a wooden spoon. I've been looking at this lock for the last hour seeing if precision drilling of the latch pin would work but then the snapped drill becomes a reality as mentioned in an earlier post. Also to cheer every other GU owner up. During my research this bastard of a problem exists on ALL Patrol models not just the DX. You have been warned
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Hey Growler, i had a new stereo and alarm fitted to the GUIV last week an they had trouble with the drivers door. We have been opening it with a key for quite a long time as the Fob gave up the ghost. So now the alarm is hooked to the central locking and works from 1km away!! Love it! But the actuator on the drivers door keeps getting stuck in the alf position and i wonder if its on the way out? does this sound like what was happening to you before it sh1t itself?

Have you got a link to this unit? How much was it? does it include what the actuator for the central locking would manipulate? it looks to be.

[growler2058]

I reckon it was $360ish from Patrolapart. It doesn't come with the actuator. Yep partial lock/open was the issue before it shat itself. Buy and replace one now before it's too late mate


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[djhandyguy]

I know this might be a bit late, however I had the same problem with the door shut and locked and unable to open with any handles or keys. Also had the warning sign of the door not latching shut before it failed completely but chose to ignore it and spray WD40 into it. Wrong move. Should have pulled it out then.
I managed to unlock the door by remove the driver seat, removing the rubber surround at the lock end and partially removing the internal door panel so I could just see the U-bolt and latch between the door pillar and the door. I was able to remove some of the screws holding the fibro panel to the plastic moulding to get access to the door internals. Some damage to the fibro panel but repairable. I modified a small flat blade screwdriver by bending approx 25mm from the end to around 90 degrees in line with the flat blade.
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I was then able to insert the screwdriver under the U-bolt and managed to depress the locking pawl that latches the lock hook in place. You need to do this twice to get the door fully open. I practiced on the rear passenger door first.
A little better than hole saws and oxy ?