Melbourne fires

[threedogs]

Hot as in Melb today and very windy a bad
,bad combination. There are fires down Tyabb on the Mornington peninsula
which are under control.
There is a major fire north of Melb at Lancefield that is out of controll ,Its starting to encroach on some houses.
Heres praying the Firies can get it under control.
My Heart went to the guy yesterday who lost everthing he owned and was not insured.
I also pray none of these were deliberatly lit, I have no time whatsoever for firebugs

A cool change is over due

[Rocket55]

Fingers crossed Threedogs.

Very hot and windy up here too! No fires making the news yet, so far so good.

[NissanGQ4.2]

There are currently 3 major emergency warnings for VIC :(

And a plane and some helicopters from NSW have been sent over from what I have read on the NSW RFS facebok page

Good luck guys

[NissanGQ4.2]

You can watch the C130 plane on the website below

http://www.flightradar24.com/C130/79f42c0

[threedogs]

Seems the CFA were burning off what the hell is that about, they should be held accountable for any loss
Why the hell would you burn off today of all days, pi$$ed off big time bloody CFA gee I hope I heard that wrong

[AB]

Pretty crazy how the weather turned.

Hottest spring in 100 years.

I'm still half way through my sprinkler set up and fire hose spots, really need to finish it before it hits summer!

[threedogs]

Pretty crazy how the weather turned.

Hottest spring in 100 years.

I'm still half way through my sprinkler set up and fire hose spots, really need to finish it before it hits summer!

You need to finish it this month Id say

[NissanGQ4.2]

If your referring 2 Lancefeild John, they were not burning off today. It was a controlled burn ( HR ) started last Wednesday and broke containment lines on Saturday.

They only ever start HR's when the weather conditions are perfect for them otherwise they get cancelled like many around my way.

And I very much disagree with any volunteer group been held responsible for things that get out of hand, they get held accountable, get sued pack there bags and then we are left with paid fires and guess what we would all loose everything.

And don't ever think they won't pack there bags and leave as its already happening in SA 2 a degree I believe. I read they were not fighting fires in public lands and waiting until fires hit private property before they defended due 2 some pay cuts.



Seems the CFA were burning off what the hell is that about, they should be held accountable for any loss
Why the hell would you burn off today of all days, pi$$ed off big time bloody CFA gee I hope I heard that wrong

[NissanGQ4.2]

I hear you mate,

I just spent 1800 bucks on a fire pump, 36mtr hose and 3 sprinklers for the hose, not getting delivered 2 next weekend. Being stinking hot here but lucky the winds aren't strong.

And most fires near me are HR's being done or small ones igniting back up from old HR's so there still in a contained area



Pretty crazy how the weather turned.

Hottest spring in 100 years.

I'm still half way through my sprinkler set up and fire hose spots, really need to finish it before it hits summer!

[mudski]

Pretty crazy how the weather turned.

Hottest spring in 100 years.

I'm still half way through my sprinkler set up and fire hose spots, really need to finish it before it hits summer!
Yeah dont leave that until the last minute mate. Especially where you are. And the type of bush land.

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[Bloodyaussie]

My favourite stomping ground tallarook is now on fire.... fwark.

[Hodge]

My favourite stomping ground tallarook is now on fire.... fwark.

Pretty shit...... workmate messaged me before about before, he was gonna go up there on dirtbikes this weekend.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61824&stc=1

[NissanGQ4.2]

Spotfires and Ember Attacks have been reported in Benloch :(

[threedogs]

It seems the CFA had a "controlled" burn off last wednesday knowing full well the up coming hot spell and high winds.
They "thought" they had it under control but spot fires flared up everywhere, I believe they should be held accountable.
The spokeman on 9 this morning was watching what he said. Shite the Firies know the weather patterns for months in advance.
Not good enough in this day and age with all the technology available. shame on you CFA shame on you

[BigRAWesty]

It seems the CFA had a "controlled" burn off last wednesday knowing full well the up coming hot spell and high winds.
They "thought" they had it under controll but spot fires flared up everywhere, I believe they should be held accountable.
The spokeman on 9 this morning was watching what he said. Shite the Firies know the weather patterns for months in advance.
Not good enough in this day and age with all the technology available. shame on you CFA shame on you
It's even worse that it's happened a few years in a row now.
Some heads need to roll I think.
Not even farmers fark up this often and when they do they get hammered..

[threedogs]

You watch it get washed under the table . There will be an inquest.
No heads will roll its a big boys club, IMO,,,,,, 200 homes are at risk as of this morning
but it's milder today and just a little gusty

[NissanGQ4.2]

So John and Kallen, when a volunteer fire fighter dies defending personal property should their family's be able 2 sue the property owners for not having adequate fire protection on their property?

Yes there maybe 200 homes in currently in danger due 2 a flare up on a controlled burn and I'm sure the "unpaid" volunteers that are risking their own lives are doing everything possible 2 get it back in control.

Yeh the CFA probably new there was going 2 be a change in weather but they do HR'S when they can and only when weather is in their favor. Do you guys know how much political crap they go through 2 get a HR approved in the first place and if it gets cancelled due 2 unfavorable weather how long it can take 2 get that cancelled HR done?

I'm guessing you guys don't live in a bushfire prone area's 2 understand the consequences of what will happen when people start suing the CFA or any other states volunteer fire fighters governing bodies.

[BigRAWesty]

So John and Kallen, when a volunteer fire fighter dies defending personal property should their family's be able 2 sue the property owners for not having adequate fire protection on their property?

Yes there maybe 200 homes in currently in danger due 2 a flare up on a controlled burn and I'm sure the "unpaid" volunteers that are risking their own lives are doing everything possible 2 get it back in control.

Yeh the CFA probably new there was going 2 be a change in weather but they do HR'S when they can and only when weather is in their favor. Do you guys know how much political crap they go through 2 get a HR approved in the first place and if it gets cancelled due 2 unfavorable weather how long it can take 2 get that cancelled HR done?

I'm guessing you guys don't live in a bushfire prone area's 2 understand the consequences of what will happen when people start suing the CFA or any other states volunteer fire fighters governing bodies.
Absolutely do mate. Fought many fires while we worked the farm, was cfs for a couple of years before I moved..
Red tape and all that crap I do understand.
But this happens all too often.
They are either missing something or cutting corners in my eyes..

[NissanGQ4.2]

Absolutely do mate. Fought many fires while we worked the farm, was cfs for a couple of years before I moved..
Red tape and all that crap I do understand.
But this happens all too often.
They are either missing something or cutting corners in my eyes..

I don't know the frequency of HR's going wrong but I highly doubt they are missing something or cutting corners.

I personally would rather the possibility of a HR going wrong compared 2 them not being done at all, just imagine those 200 plus homes that are currently under threat could well be thousands of homes under thread if no HR's were done because we didn't have a volunteer fire service.

Just read this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-04/volunteer-firefighters-maintain-bushfire-boycott/6825952

Imagine an out of control fire on public land say 200 hectares in size with 80k winds racing toward a community were they will only defend once it hits private property, they would have no hope in hell of saving anyone or anything.

[BigRAWesty]

Yea for sure. The other is much worse that's for sure.
Maybe they gotta tackle smaller bites? ? Bigger fire breaks?? I dunno. But this happened last year aswell didn't it or the year before??

[NissanGQ4.2]

Yea for sure. The other is much worse that's for sure.
Maybe they gotta tackle smaller bites? ? Bigger fire breaks?? I dunno. But this happened last year aswell didn't it or the year before??

I don't know the answers either, I don't think smaller bites will help, there was a HR done a few weeks back further up the mountains from me and it was only a relative small HR, yesterday there was a visible smoke column coming from within the containment lines and being a very hot day all it would of needed was some strong winds which lucky we never had and that could of well of being a full on out of control fire.

Maybe the volunteer numbers need 2 be increased, I know that if you speak with a volunteer they will say "they do it for the love of their community" but just think if it was a paid service their might be a lot more people that would do it. I don't even understand why its a volunteer service 2 start with, 2 me they are like anyone else be it Police, Fire, Ambo's, they all provide a service 2 the community yet get paid for it.

[AB]

I think you guys are talking about DSE not Cfa that caused the issue and to be fair also they are only allocated 5 or 6 days a year to burn off.

Sure it's a stuff up from a flare up but to be honest they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't.

The allocated days is a rush to burn off and if they don't do it we all whinge about overgrowth!

[BigRAWesty]

I don't know the answers either, I don't think smaller bites will help, there was a HR done a few weeks back further up the mountains from me and it was only a relative small HR, yesterday there was a visible smoke column coming from within the containment lines and being a very hot day all it would of needed was some strong winds which lucky we never had and that could of well of being a full on out of control fire.

Maybe the volunteer numbers need 2 be increased, I know that if you speak with a volunteer they will say "they do it for the love of their community" but just think if it was a paid service their might be a lot more people that would do it. I don't even understand why its a volunteer service 2 start with, 2 me they are like anyone else be it Police, Fire, Ambo's, they all provide a service 2 the community yet get paid for it.
I think that would be a great starting point. But doubt we'll ever see it..

I think you guys are talking about DSE not Cfa that caused the issue and to be fair also they are only allocated 5 or 6 days a year to burn off.

Sure it's a stuff up from a flare up but to be honest they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't.

The allocated days is a rush to burn off and if they don't do it we all whinge about overgrowth!
Yes and that's probably a but issue to..
They could have been burning off last month it was that dry but it's all the red tape bs..

[threedogs]

I think you guys are talking about DSE not Cfa that caused the issue and to be fair also they are only allocated 5 or 6 days a year to burn off.

Sure it's a stuff up from a flare up but to be honest they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't.

The allocated days is a rush to burn off and if they don't do it we all whinge about overgrowth!

Yeah my bad it was the DSE not the CFA

[NissanGQ4.2]

I think you guys are talking about DSE not Cfa that caused the issue and to be fair also they are only allocated 5 or 6 days a year to burn off.

Sure it's a stuff up from a flare up but to be honest they're dammed if they do dammed if they don't.

The allocated days is a rush to burn off and if they don't do it we all whinge about overgrowth!

Yeh I wasn't sure if it was DSE or CFA that started the HR, tried looking that info up 2 no avail.