Soft Shackles Group buy. Expressions of interest

[BigRAWesty]

Ok peeps. I'm looking at doing a group buy of the soft shackles.
I'm looking at the 12mmx 60mm diameter loop.
A variety of colors available, will confirm which ones soon.

Lots of pros for a soft shackle. The biggest one in my eyes is the increased safety factor. Due to no stretch and little weight it eliminates the risk of high speed projectiles if things go wrong.

Easy to store. The bend into any nook or cranny, and don't cause damage to other items.

Quick and simple to use.

No bolts to bend and make them useless.

Initial prices are coming out at $24 +postage. But that'll reduce the more we get.
I need a minimum of 50..

So who's keen??

[growler2058]

Link to what they are. Never heard of em

[Winnie]

Tempting...

[BigRAWesty]

Sorry g man.
They are a shackle that is made from synthetic rope. Same as your winch rope.
60681

[growler2058]

I must buy a winch some day :)
Yup im in! x 2

[MudRunnerTD]

Wow that is half price Kallen!! I won't bother making them for that. Assuming they are made from 12mm I am in for 2

[TPC]

I will take 2.

[Cuppa]

They sound like a good thing to use in winching applications, but my reading suggests that metal shackles would still be required for snatch use. The synthetic rope is apparently not considered suitable for ‘shock loadings’. It’s wll rating is reduced by 50% when shock loaded, & it is recommended that they should be considered a single use & discard item in those circumstances. I would also think that round profile recovery attachments rather than plate type recovery points might be necessary for winching?

[Stropp]

Bummer already bought 3

[BigRAWesty]

Thanks for the support guys.
Darren I'll check sizes threw the week for you.

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[Clunk]

I'll go 2 mate

[BigRAWesty]

Bump. A long way from the 50.
Still awaiting reply about the size darren.

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[threedogs]

I'll go 2 as well Kallen,
How long have these been around, Im just worried they
wont cross over from boating to 4x4, completely different forces at play.
Seems they are only used for mooring is that right.??

A 500g post bag costs about $8 I think

[Chubba]

I'm in for 2 please.

[BigRAWesty]

Still quite new John, that's why I'm keen.
Unfortunately as you well know people look at the $$$ first and then the object.
So standard D shackles are forever always going to be cheaper.
But these have a huge safety factor over the steel shackles.

Thanks though guys. Much appreciated.

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[4bye4]

You can 60996 for two.

[mudnut]

Are they actually sold
by 4x4 equipment manufacturers
as a recovery item?
The recovery points on
my vehicle would damage the soft
shackle.

[threedogs]

Are they actually sold
by 4x4 equipment manufacturers
as a recovery item?
The recovery points on
my vehicle would damage the soft
shackle.

I have a few concerns, definetly not for snatching but winching may be ok
@ Mudnut from my brief google only used to moor yachts, personally
would like more research done. Admitted a safer option if they are
applicable to 4x4 recovery

[jack]

These have been around in yachting for many many years, only issue in 4WD application would be any sharp edges. Any of the recovery points I have seen would not be suitable, they would have to be rounded.
With the right recovery points/hooks they would be safe for winching but agree with TD on snatching.

Here's an example of their strength, in Google it says this is 35 ton (but I don't believe everything Google tells me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQx4xgPqCxM

[threedogs]

I still have concerns by adapting something for what its not designed to do.
I'd hate to see vehicle damage or injury.
We all know from fishing a knot is the weakest point,
I'm out on these sorry but my gut says its wrong

[BSRT.Beast]

I'll be in for 4 ........ countless aplications

[AB]

Are they 12mm mate?

[BigRAWesty]

Still waiting a reply

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[Clunk]

I still have concerns by adapting something for what its not designed to do.
I'd hate to see vehicle damage or injury.
We all know from fishing a knot is the weakest point,
I'm out on these sorry but my gut says its wrong
Were metal shackles originally designed for 4wding purposes or for lifting and holding stuff?

[BigRAWesty]

Were metal shackles originally designed for 4wding purposes or for lifting and holding stuff?
Common bloke. Not again yea.

[Clunk]

Common bloke. Not again yea.
Huh????????

[BigRAWesty]

Are they 12mm mate?
Ok for all who were interested the above prices are for 10mm with a 10 ton rating.
We can go 12mm which ups it to a 13T rating.
From what I can tell it'll only be a couple of bucks difference.

So from here on I think I'll jump to the 12mm rope. I'll update prices once new quote comes in.

I might also spread the word and get orders from outside the forum. I though we may have been closer to 50.
All goood though.
Cheers guys.

[threedogs]

Were metal shackles originally designed for 4wding purposes or for lifting and holding stuff?

Yes we adapted shackles to 4x4ing as it was a safe option, these "soft shackles" have been around a while now
but no one has used them 4x4ing untill now. Good luck with it I hope there is a place in recovery for them.
Just not for me.

[Sir Roofy]

I still have concerns by adapting something for what its not designed to do.
I'd hate to see vehicle damage or injury.
We all know from fishing a knot is the weakest point,
I'm out on these sorry but my gut says its wrong

My thoughts on these shackles are a bit like Johns there made for boats they should stay with them
in some cases they might work ,but what is the only smooth object on most 4x4s is a tow ball
Its ok they will say just loop it over that then add the hook of the winch mmm accident waiting to happen
use them once throw away more litter waste of money

[threedogs]

I think these will be OK but a bit of R&D needs to be done first.
It would be fantastic if they could replace steel shackles, we all know too well
the damage they can do. As with my points, Kallen you may need to break a few before
you come up with a suitable one,

[Clunk]

Just watched an amercian vid on youtube, the guys were using them as a link between bubba rope and steel shackle in their recovery. .....

[Sir Roofy]

Just watched an amercian vid on youtube, the guys were using them as a link between bubba rope and steel shackle in their recovery. .....

It will be a whole lot of new thinking on how to get around not using steel shackles
and take the hook of your winch rope and put a soft shackle on
will need to put bollards on the 4bys

[BigRAWesty]

Roofy these shackles come undone. The knot is simply passed threw a sliding eye. When pulled tight the eye closes so the know can not pass threw.

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[BSRT.Beast]

like this
61098
61099

[threedogs]

Under load do you think it will lock on itself and no come undone.
Like when you join two straps together the wrong way??

[mudnut]

Whohoo, lets do some R and D, Kallen!!

[Clunk]

Under load do you think it will lock on itself and no come undone.
Like when you join two straps together the wrong way??


time to start making some nice round edged recovery points TD?????? ;)......... get in there before the rest of the market

[Fwdpatrol]

I wonder if they have a SWL
If it does't have that then you may be held accountable when the come off and someone gets hurt

[Maxhead]

These loop systems have been used in a D-LOOP on compound bows for years on a smaller scale and are bullet proof. On a larger scale of 10 or 12mm they will hold up to the pulling forces I would expect but not sure in a recovery snatch situation.

They have their place in the market place for sure

[AB]

I'm interested in two westy.

I'm also interested to hear of anyone has used these before in recovery?

[Clunk]

This is the vid I mentioned earlier in the thread


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhJDsqTH0o8

[the evil twin]

I wonder if they have a SWL
If it does't have that then you may be held accountable when the come off and someone gets hurt

Not all that much gear in a recovery has an SWL, most of the gear will have a B.S. and some will have nothing as there are no Aust Standards to rate against.
The SWL of a shackle is not rated for the purpose it is being used IE we are using a device designed and rated for a totally different application that will do the job we want.
99% of users won't know how to care for the gear or derate the shackle SWL depending on Sling Load Angles etc anyway...


These loop systems have been used in a D-LOOP on compound bows for years on a smaller scale and are bullet proof. On a larger scale of 10 or 12mm they will hold up to the pulling forces I would expect but not sure in a recovery snatch situation.

They have their place in the market place for sure

The 'name' brand soft shackles usually have a rating some as SWL but most as BS.
As a guide the expected rating is the rope rating times 4 (the shackle is doubled over twice IE 4 strands) divided by the knot strength divided by the safety factor
12mm Dyneema will be 13 tons X 4 equals 50 tons (close enough)
50 tons with a button knot will be about 70% so 35 tons
35 tons with a safety factor of 3 means around 12 tons, 28,000 lbs or 12,000 Kg.

Rough rule of thumb is just treat the Soft Shackle BS as the same as the equivalent Dyneema/Spectra/Amsteel rope BS and you will have heaps of safety factor

[mudnut]

Sorry for the hijack, Kallen.
In the vid they were using the soft
shackles on the steel shackle
so were creating another
point of failure. Yes, they are
simple to use but I can't see
the advantage as I use a rolled
up magazine to stop any straps
locking into each other when joined.
Rounding out any recovery
points to accommodate the
soft shackle reduces their
rating and also the amount
of metal to metal contact
if you have to use a steel shackle.

[Onkey]

i daunt think you should under ester mate :) them they are made from Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (in block form it is 15 times more resistant to abrasion than carbon steel)

It has joust gotten cheap enough for the Joe public.

They are used by ships to moor, when moored the rope gets massif shocks, from the ship bouncing of the side of the dock and then shocking the rope.

It is also used by climbers on there nocks witch get wedged in cracks of rooks for the safety line, when they fall all the shock hits the (Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene)

[threedogs]

I hope they have a place in 4x4 recovery , it'll stop stupid accidents like the 17yr old kid in NSW from happening,
has anyone heard how he is going??

[Chubba]

Any word on the numbers Kallen?
Is the group buy on mate?

[threedogs]

Put me back in for 2 please Kallen I'll do some tests as well
and put my findings here

[Patrol-Guy]

Put me in for 2.

[MudRunnerTD]

Keen as. If you have never tried to cut 10mm dyneema then I can tell you it's bloody hard work! Not like cutting rope. Hard work.

[BigRAWesty]

Any word on the numbers Kallen?
Is the group buy on mate?
Not even half way yet so not looking good ey..

[Clunk]

Not even half way yet so not looking good ey..


yep I count 22, so I'll make mine 4................. which takes it to 24


Just need to keep bumping this thread up Kallen

[TPC]

Change mine from 2 to 4 Kallen.

[Patrol-Guy]

And I'll take 4 instead of 2.

[Chubba]

Me toooooo. Put mine up to 4 as well
Let's get this happening. That should be 30 now buy my count.

[BigRAWesty]

Cheers guys. Much appreciated..
I did mention they come in a range of colours to didn't I? ?
Clunky yours are pink I know that much. Lol

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[Clunk]

Cheers guys. Much appreciated..
I did mention they come in a range of colours to didn't I? ?
Clunky yours are pink I know that much. Lol

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thanks Katnip, better that baby shit brown

[BigRAWesty]

thanks Katnip, better that baby shit brown
Got that right.

[Clunk]

actually pink would be a good colour........ vibrant

[Chubba]

I want the pink too.

[Clunk]

I want the pink too.


ahhhhhhhhh, I see you want to be in the cool gang hey ;) hahahahahahaha

[Chubba]

It's just happens to be my colour.....
Not that there's anything wrong with that!

[BigRAWesty]

It's just happens to be my colour.....
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Chubba's and pink just go together.

[lucus30]

We got prices on these? I'm interested in a couple maybe I'll grab 4 if they aren't too expensive

Edit: Yeah just read the first post. I'm in for 4

[Clunk]

We got prices on these? I'm interested in a couple maybe I'll grab 4 if they aren't too expensive

Edit: Yeah just read the first post. I'm in for 4

so that should make it 34......... only another 16 to go Kallen

[BigRAWesty]

Yep. Not getting much support from the fb pages.
As per norm everyone's a tight ass

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[BigRAWesty]

so that should make it 34......... only another 16 to go Kallen
Was that including my 4

[Clunk]

Was that including my 4

ummmmmm dunno, don't think so, can't remember, but you might want to start up a little list ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

So have we locked down that they are 12mm and a price yet? Might be happy to increase my order if it's the right product mate.

[BigRAWesty]

Will be getting 12mm. They will be 13T breaking strain.
They cost....
still getting that bit.
Shouldn't be much more than a couple of bucks more.

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[BigRAWesty]

So so I'm thinking I'll float the last 10.. so if we can get to 40 I'll place the order.
Price is confirmed and as though it was only a minimal amount (have adjusted in first post)
For all those buying 2 I'd say it's safe to say your postage will be $8, for the blokes grabbing 4 it could be $14, will confirm that when their in my hot little hands.
I'll do a count later on to confirm how many more we need.

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[threedogs]

@ Kallen received an email from a member of TLCCV about these,, another member has brought some back from the states.
Apparently you can buy a winch extension strap as well, but I cant see the danger potential compared to what is already available.
He did stress it must have a rating all OH&S you know, but would be good to have a very high BS as ET stated earlier on.

[BigRAWesty]

Who is tlccv sorry?
And yea I guess why not an extension?? It's really no different to adding more winch rope.

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[MudRunnerTD]

Toyota Landcruiser Club of Victoria.

Yes you can certainly use a Synthetic rope as a winch extension strap. that is what i have done with my second hand rope.

[threedogs]

I have some 25mm yacht rope Ive used in the past no idea on BS but its tough as all get out

[BigRAWesty]

Ok so n I've hit a snag.
I've been trying from the start to get a rating certificate for the load rating and today to come back and said there is none.
I'm not willing to purchase something without some sorta testing.
So I'll start hunting again for a different company who can supply shackles with rating cert.

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[Clunk]

Ok so n I've hit a snag.
I've been trying from the start to get a rating certificate for the load rating and today to come back and said there is none.
I'm not willing to purchase something without some sorta testing.
So I'll start hunting again for a different company who can supply shackles with rating cert.

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all good Kallen

[Chubba]

Farkn what?

[BigRAWesty]

Farkn what?
Basically there is no rating as such. We all know what it should handle but they actually haven't tested them..

[Chubba]

Ok Kallen. If that's what we need to do we'll leave it in your capable hands mate. Disappointed though. Not in you bud but the people you are dealing with.

[BigRAWesty]

Ok Kallen. If that's what we need to do we'll leave it in your capable hands mate. Disappointed though. Not in you bud but the people you are dealing with.
The problem is the safety risk with it. If shit hit the fan I can be held responsible.
Not a risk I'm willing to take sorry

[Chubba]

I understand mate.

[threedogs]

The problem is the safety risk with it. If shit hit the fan I can be held responsible.
Not a risk I'm willing to take sorry

Touch wood tell me about it, I'll see if those ones
from the States had a BS or any rating for that matter

[BigRAWesty]

The problem is the safety risk with it. If shit hit the fan I can be held responsible.
Not a risk I'm willing to take sorry
The company said no other buyer has requested such a thing so will be interesting to see

[threedogs]

The ones from the states had a destruction test of 14t .
They told the guy there was no standard to which they can be tested.
I would ask for a proof rating of 3.5T

[rusty_nail]

hi kallen, if you find another provider that will supply what we need you can put me down for four mate.

[threedogs]

Most ppl Ive asked about these "soft shackles" have never heard of them.
I truely hope there is a place for these in 4x4ings

[threedogs]

Bumped ........any more info?

[BigRAWesty]

So seems I'm the only cumb dunt that's wants rated recovery gear..
So I'm taking it on.
Been in contact with a few companies to see if we can do a destruction test of one or 2 of the units and get a certificate to show stretch, break and any other info they can extract from the test..
So hang about. I'm currently pricing it all.

[Chubba]

I'm still keen.

[threedogs]

When I went to a different place to get any gear tested it cost per ton so to speak.
Which I think is wrong. Stretch wont tell you much as it can stretch slowly or fast with the same result.
I high BS would be the cheapest , so just request a destruction test imo

[BigRAWesty]

When I went to a different place to get any gear tested it cost per ton so to speak.
Which I think is wrong. Stretch wont tell you much as it can stretch slowly or fast with the same result.
I high BS would be the cheapest , so just request a destruction test imo
They said it costs per setup or time. So once set up you can destroy 100 and it'll cost bugger all more.
They can do up to 200T. .

[threedogs]

All they will do is fit a big eg 20 ton shackle each end and pull till it breaks.
I had to make up jigs to simulate a chassis as near as possible, with holes to
allow shackles to be fitted

[Chubba]

Any further developments Kallen?

[BigRAWesty]

Just awaiting some replies on quotes for testing..

[Chubba]

Coooooolllllllll

[Chubba]

Bump tity bump.

[the evil twin]

I dunno why you mob don't just bite the bullet and buy 'em.
I can't see the issue.
Snatch straps aren't "rated" to an A.S. or anything meaningful so it hardly matters about the soft shackle which will be at least 2 to 4 times stronger anyway.

[MudRunnerTD]

I dunno why you mob don't just bite the bullet and buy 'em.
I can't see the issue.
Snatch straps aren't "rated" to an A.S. or anything meaningful so it hardly matters about the soft shackle which will be at least 2 to 4 times stronger anyway.


^^^^^^^^ what he said ^^^^^^^^

[the evil twin]

Here ya go... get onto these... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Soft-Shackle-V2-sleeve-Dyneema-Winch-Rope-SK75-SYNTHETIC-CAR-TOW-RECOVERY-CABLE-/111842926094?hash=item1a0a5b9e0e:g:aNcAAOSwYHxWKHA r

Might take a while to get the lanolin off tho

[BigRAWesty]

Here ya go... get onto these... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Soft-Shackle-V2-sleeve-Dyneema-Winch-Rope-SK75-SYNTHETIC-CAR-TOW-RECOVERY-CABLE-/111842926094?hash=item1a0a5b9e0e:g:aNcAAOSwYHxWKHA r

Might take a while to get the lanolin off tho
Well I'm not going to try compete with that.
There ya go boys..

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah but they are 10mm. I am keen on some 12mm. If I have to I will make myself a couple.

[the evil twin]

Yeah but they are 10mm. I am keen on some 12mm. If I have to I will make myself a couple.

12mm !!! ... :jawdrop:

Holy Cow dude, you planning on snatching Unimogs?
That will be around a 20 tonner.
I think you will be amazed how big a 12mm shackle will turn out to be when you make it.

I have a couple of 6mm, a couple of 8mm and one 10mm. :icon_driving:

[threedogs]

More from the same shop,
Some one should do a U tube video on how to use these properly,
and where they can be used, just saying LOL

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Soft-Shackle-w-sleeve-Dyneema-Winch-Rope-SK75-SYNTHETIC-CAR-TOW-RECOVERY-CABLE-/111803664185?hash=item1a08048739

[BigRAWesty]

Well if you guys want 12mm and ain't fussed about testing then I'll do it as I can do much cheaper for ya

[BigRAWesty]

Ok. So let's do this. Chrissy rush is over..
Getting a price again but it should be close to the $21 plus postage..
That's for the 12mm rope shackle..
If your keen I'll need a 50% deposit before I order..
copy and paste your name to the list.. need the 50 as per before for it to happen. .
Cheers

BigGQWesty x 2

[TPC]

Ok. So let's do this. Chrissy rush is over..
Getting a price again but it should be close to the $21 plus postage..
That's for the 12mm rope shackle..
If your keen I'll need a 50% deposit before I order..
copy and paste your name to the list.. need the 50 as per before for it to happen. .
Cheers

BigGQWesty x 2

BigGQWesty x 2
TPC x 2

[Chubba]

BigGQWesty x 2
TPC x 2
Chubba x 2

[BigRAWesty]

Ok guys.
For the 12mm shackles in a 60mm diameter they'll be $24 plus postage.
10mm x 60mm shackles are $21..
Available colours are
Grey blue red and yellow..
I'm thinking we go Red..
But seeing g if we can mix and match
So.
Any of you previous blokes still keen??

[BigRAWesty]

Bump bump. Anyone else

[MudRunnerTD]

Put me down for 2 red thanks Kallen.

[BigRAWesty]

BigGQWesty x 2
TPC x 2
Chubba x 2
MudRunnerTD X2 red

[Clunk]

I might have to give it a miss, depending on when you're purchasing, just picked up some twin pot calipers for the Q

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[threedogs]

I must buy a winch some day :)
Yup im in! x 2

how is the winch fund coming along, Runva or re-co a hi mount like Winnie did ??

[BigRAWesty]

I might have to give it a miss, depending on when you're purchasing, just picked up some twin pot calipers for the Q

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That rate were going it's dead

[Clunk]

That rate were going it's dead

you never know mate, people are still on hols and you know how long it took to get numbers up originally............. I'll bee in for 2 of 10mm jobbies but not until mid feb now

[Chubba]

Bump tity bump.

[Kimbo63]

I'm in for 2 x 10mm Kallen
Cheers Kimbo

[BigRAWesty]

you never know mate, people are still on hols and you know how long it took to get numbers up originally............. I'll bee in for 2 of 10mm jobbies but not until mid feb now


I'm in for 2 x 10mm Kallen
Cheers Kimbo
Sorry guys the 10mm idea has been dropped..
Only going the 12mm as we need 50 of each..

[Clunk]

Sorry I'm out

[Kimbo63]

Ok 12mm x2 for me then
Cheers Kimbo

[BigRAWesty]

BigGQWesty x 2
TPC x 2
Chubba x 2
MudRunnerTD X2 red
Kimbo x2

[BigRAWesty]

What's happened to all the push from the first run...
If you want em throw ya name on the list

[Chubba]

Bump Tity bump.

[threedogs]

Here you go for those that are still interested

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Two-Soft-Shackles-Dyneema-fibre-Australian-Rope-10mm-15-000kg-Orange-/252423392157

[Touses]

I'll bite! How the hell do they work?

[the evil twin]

I'll bite! How the hell do they work?

Extremely well.
Been used on puff boats since Noah played 1/2 back for the Jews.
Brilliant for joining/attaching snatchies, winch extension straps, tow straps, tree trunk protectors

You pass the end of the soft shackle thru the atachement point/s and/or eye/s.
Slide open the loop of the shackle and pass the button knot (knob) thru the loop.
The loop closes and the button knot can't fit back thru.

Sort of like a button on a shirt

My personal rough guide is 2 times the rating of the rope I used to make the shackle.
I notice the Ebayer has stated a tad less but thats cool, he is selling his to Joe Public so needs to be very conservative

[Touses]

Extremely well.
Been used on puff boats since Noah played 1/2 back for the Jews.
Brilliant for joining/attaching snatchies, winch extension straps, tow straps, tree trunk protectors

You pass the end of the soft shackle thru the atachement point/s and/or eye/s.
Slide open the loop of the shackle and pass the button knot (knob) thru the loop.
The loop closes and the button knot can't fit back thru.

Sort of like a button on a shirt

My personal rough guide is 2 times the rating of the rope I used to make the shackle.
I notice the Ebayer has stated a tad less but thats cool, he is selling his to Joe Public so needs to be very conservative

Given that Mensa has knocked me back dozens of times now (who says persistence pays), something about a lack of spatial awareness,
you've explained that in a manner that is slowly seeping in. In fact I can reasonably say ahah I get it!
So, a reef knot for idiots, no chance of stuffing the join to whatever recovery accessory is utilised?
In that case add me to the list. Touses x 2

[BigRAWesty]

Here you go for those that are still interested

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Two-Soft-Shackles-Dyneema-fibre-Australian-Rope-10mm-15-000kg-Orange-/252423392157
Fark $80!!!!
Think I was looking at $35-40 for 12mm rope..

[Bacho86]

Fark $80!!!!
Think I was looking at $35-40 for 12mm rope..

Pretty sure that's $80 for a pair if that makes a difference...


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[BigRAWesty]

Pretty sure that's $80 for a pair if that makes a difference...


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Augh so it is..
Still I think 10mm ones were $20ish.. but a few said they wanted 12mm.. which according to my first post were $24 each..

[threedogs]

so what's the go did this all fall through or
not enough numbers to make it worth while LOL

[threedogs]

Given that Mensa has knocked me back dozens of times now (who says persistence pays), something about a lack of spatial awareness,
you've explained that in a manner that is slowly seeping in. In fact I can reasonably say ahah I get it!
So, a reef knot for idiots, no chance of stuffing the join to whatever recovery accessory is utilised?
In that case add me to the list. Touses x 2

Long story short , you'd rather be hit in the back of the head with a soft shackle
than by a steel bow shackle of any size, safer all a round IMO and thats what its
all about eh safety lol

[BigRAWesty]

so what's the go did this all fall through or
not enough numbers to make it worth while LOL
The later..
Seems it's was all hot air when it come to crunch time

[threedogs]

The later..
Seems it's was all hot air when it come to crunch time

$80 for two x 10mm soft shackles wont break the bank.
A must for any recovery kit I reckon,
@15,000 kg breaking strain
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252423392157?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[megatexture]

The later..
Seems it's was all hot air when it come to crunch time

Sorry bud, I was interested but time gets away from me Lately and forgot to follow the thread.

[BigRAWesty]

Sorry bud, I was interested but time gets away from me Lately and forgot to follow the thread.
Na all good mate..

[Clunk]

The later..
Seems it's was all hot air when it come to crunch time

not hot air bud, other things took precedence

[MudRunnerTD]

I'm going to make a couple of 12mm i reckon once i have loaded my winch with the 60m of 12mm i have here i will tax a bit and make a couple.

[Stropp]

Shit I bought 2 and I couldn't tell where they are now, hopefully in the patrol somewhere.

[threedogs]

OOI is anyone or has any one used these soft shackles yet.
A bit of a road report so to say would be good

[the evil twin]

OOI is anyone or has any one used these soft shackles yet.
A bit of a road report so to say would be good

As prev mentioned... been using them for years, they work great.
Only hassle is people 'borrowing' them

[threedogs]

As prev mentioned... been using them for years, they work great.
Only hassle is people 'borrowing' them

So what are you saying,,, "they grow legs" lol

[the evil twin]

So what are you saying,,, "they grow legs" lol

More so people borrowing them then finding them really handy so they become a, lets say, long term $0 lease arrangement :wink:

[threedogs]

Dont know how some ppl can sleep with themselves lol

[mudnut]

Are they actually sold
by 4x4 equipment manufacturers
as a recovery item?
The recovery points on
my vehicle would damage the soft
shackle.

This youtube video has answered my question about soft shackles used with sharp cornered recovery points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66BXmM_JuBI

In 2015 I paid for a lazer cutter to make me a hardened steel recovery point that is 20mm thick. I did this so I could round of the edges off to see if it makes a difference to a soft shackle compared the current sharp edged style. I have not finished rounding off the corners yet, but I would be willing to send the recovery point to get it tested If anyone knows how or where to get it done.

[threedogs]

Hi Craig mudnut any sling and shackle place will be able to test it for you
first make a plate to bolt your recovery point to with a hole to except a 4,6 t shackle
You need to ask for them to be proof tested first then have them do a destruction test.
You want a min of 18t breaking point 12t is too light and youll need to re design it
Proof testing is they will scribe two lines and then pull it at 4.5t for 50 times if the lines
are the same you have a winner. even if its moved only one mil youre ok. need more
help you have my number. expect to pay around $500 to get your certificate