3.0l fuel usage doing the Simpson desert.

[scotty83]

Hi guys and girls. Headed for the Simpson and was looking for anyone that had done it in 3.0l non crd to tell me how much fuel they used.

I am doing rig road to the lone gum and then waa, Knowles track and then French line to the qaa. Approx 600km. Easy one on road but in the dunes????

Just not sure how thirsty this trip will be. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

[Winnie]

Hey mate, we as the forum did a similar trip last year.
Roofy was there in his 3.0L DI so hopefully he can say home much fuel he used.

I used 138L over 721km from Mt Dare to Birdsville in my TD42 GQ

[dpetersen]

Not sure if it helps but I did the tanami. About 750ks and used about 95l

[katwoman]

I believe Roofy's Beast used about the same as the rest of us.. Around 14L/100... ( dont quote me)

[Winnie]

I believe Roofy's Beast used about the same as the rest of us.. Around 14L/100... ( dont quote me)
No way anybody used that small of an amount crossing the desert ... Mine was 19.23/100 and I was stoked with that!

[Rossco]

Yeah i reckon mine was slightly better which i was very pleasantly surprised with, was definatly expecting to use more. Might have been because i only needed one practice go on big red [emoji6] . . . . .

[katwoman]

No way anybody used that small of an amount crossing the desert ... Mine was 19.23/100 and I was stoked with that!

My bad.. I was thinking average figures for the whole trip. I dont remember how much fuel was used for the desert. All I remember it was less than Darren.

[liftlid]

Plan on using between 16 to 21 lt per 100 depending on how hard you push.

[Sir Roofy]

OK just dug up the notes on this trip Mt Dare to Birdsville
751.7 ks
111.78 lts
14.87 l/100
$205 @$1.84
Hope this helps and gives you a guide I have a long range tank 146 l the sub tank had 30l and I had 25l on the roof
never used the sub or jerrycan on this trip plus had 60lts of water or a bit less

[TPC]

OK just dug up the notes on this trip Mt Dare to Birdsville
751.7 ks
111.78 lts
14.87 l/100
$205 @$1.84
Hope this helps and gives you a guide I have a long range tank 186 l the sub tank had 30l and I had 25l on the roof
never used the sub or jerrycan on this trip plus had 60lts of water or a bit less

That is bloody good economy for the Simpson, you must have driven like a granny.

[Sir Roofy]

That is bloody good economy for the Simpson, you must have driven like a granny.

yep we did wanted to see things out there not race around like some I know lol;)

[threedogs]

Do you only have 95ltr main and 30ltr Aux tanks fitted.
If thats the case 2 x jerry cans would cover you..
If carrying on the roof empty as soon as you can

[dom14]

That is bloody good economy for the Simpson, you must have driven like a granny.

Ah, that's funny! :D,:clapping:
I thought in Simpson we don't have a choice. :bananarock:

I get occasional grunting of the hone from truckies on highways.
Gravelly hone of the old trucks makes me hit the roof. Bang Head
That's more scarier than getting sand bogged. :D

[dom14]

Do you only have 95ltr main and 30ltr Aux tanks fitted.
If thats the case 2 x jerry cans would cover you..
If carrying on the roof empty as soon as you can

Is there any use of going to trouble of installing an auxiliary tank that has only 30 litres?
Average jerry can is 20 litres and fits easily on the roof rack, sparewheel jerry can carrier or even inside.
I reckon it's not worth the trouble of installing an auxiliary tank as small as that.
I have a long range tank in mine, but it's only 80 litres, and has come at the cost of the
original tank(removed). Not so much of a long range for a fuel hungry 4WD. I think 200 litre tank is a real
long range, not 80 litres.
Looking underneath, I can't imagine being able to fit an auxiliary tank big enough for real long range.
Mine is dual fuel, so I opted to install an auxiliary LPG tank, which anyway not much use in the outback.
So, I carry few jerry cans now. Just have to keep an eye on them to make sure not to lose them :D

[Winnie]

Is there any use of going to trouble of installing an auxiliary tank that has only 30 litres?
Average jerry can is 20 litres and fits easily on the roof rack, sparewheel jerry can carrier or even inside.
I reckon it's not worth the trouble of installing an auxiliary tank as small as that.
I have a long range tank in mine, but it's only 80 litres, and has come at the cost of the
original tank(removed). Not so much of a long range for a fuel hungry 4WD. I think 200 litre tank is a real
long range, not 80 litres.
Looking underneath, I can't imagine being able to fit an auxiliary tank big enough for real long range.
Mine is dual fuel, so I opted to install an auxiliary LPG tank, which anyway not much use in the outback.
So, I carry few jerry cans now. Just have to keep an eye on them to make sure not to lose them :D

The 30L sub tank is standard issue on all GU Patrols.
Standard main take in a GQ is 95L tank, an aftermarket sub tank is about 75L
I have the 95L tank and the 75L sub tank and easily did over 700km through the Simpson.

[threedogs]

Is there any use of going to trouble of installing an auxiliary tank that has only 30 litres?
Average jerry can is 20 litres and fits easily on the roof rack, sparewheel jerry can carrier or even inside.
I reckon it's not worth the trouble of installing an auxiliary tank as small as that.
I have a long range tank in mine, but it's only 80 litres, and has come at the cost of the
original tank(removed). Not so much of a long range for a fuel hungry 4WD. I think 200 litre tank is a real
long range, not 80 litres.
Looking underneath, I can't imagine being able to fit an auxiliary tank big enough for real long range.
Mine is dual fuel, so I opted to install an auxiliary LPG tank, which anyway not much use in the outback.
So, I carry few jerry cans now. Just have to keep an eye on them to make sure not to lose them :D

Most replace the 30 ltr OE tank with a 75ltr After market AUX tank.
A main replacement is 150ltrs I think so 225ltrs is plenty these days for outback driving.
When I travelled outback in my dual fuel 4x4 I usually left the gas full.
I had 90ltrs main and 75ltrs Aux so I had most roads covered at the time

[Rumcajs]

I averaged about 18.5 L from Mt Dare to Birdsville via French/QAA line. Mostly in low range so if I could bother in high range the consumption probably be lower.

Regards

[dom14]

Most replace the 30 ltr OE tank with a 75ltr After market AUX tank.
A main replacement is 150ltrs I think so 225ltrs is plenty these days for outback driving.
When I travelled outback in my dual fuel 4x4 I usually left the gas full.
I had 90ltrs main and 75ltrs Aux so I had most roads covered at the time

Yeah, 150 litre or 225 litre petrol tank would be ideal for me.
I have a combined 160 litre LPG capacity & also got a third 60 litre scooba tank which I can't be
bothered to put in anymore. Thought three LPG tanks might mean I'm pushing my luck with safety. :D
Money on LPG tanks and installation would have better spent on a real long range petrol tank.
Too late now.
It's interesting Nissan factory man put a tiny 40 litre petrol tank on a petrol guzzling heavy truck.
(That was what apparently RB30 Patrol came out of the factory with)
No logic there. They must have designed the original fuel tank with Maldives in their mind.:D

[dom14]

The 30L sub tank is standard issue on all GU Patrols.
Standard main take in a GQ is 95L tank, an aftermarket sub tank is about 75L
I have the 95L tank and the 75L sub tank and easily did over 700km through the Simpson.

That can't be right for the RB30 Patrol. Even the so called long range tank in mine is under 80 litres.
The original one was apparently 30 or 40 litres.
The long range tank in mine was fitted by the Long Range Automotive in Lilydale.

[Clunk]

That can't be right for the RB30 Patrol. Even the so called long range tank in mine is under 80 litres.
The original one was apparently 30 or 40 litres.
The long range tank in mine was fitted by the Long Range Automotive in Lilydale.
You're talking about the belly tank under the drivers side though?

[threedogs]

@ Dom having dual fuel they probably removed your 95 litre tank to fit the gas tank.
you could then have a 75 litre aux , not sure how mant tanks you can fit, but when you think one jerry will do 100k
on the hwy. It doesnt look good if doing the Simmo ,you would need to adjust your driving style big time.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LONG-RANGE-FUEL-LRA-TANK-to-suit-NISSAN-PATROL-GU-WAGON-AUX-75-LTR-TANK-/121635036151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1c52035bf7


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Long-Range-Fuel-Tank-for-Nissan-Patrol-GU-Wagon-Petrol-Models-146L-Rear-Tank-/111656851017?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item19ff445649

[scotty83]

Thanks guys. Got to Uluru and started freaking out that I had miscalculated. Running factory main and sub and 2x20L Jerry cans. About 610kms so should be good. Depends on Big Red though. Lol

[katwoman]

No way anybody used that small of an amount crossing the desert ... Mine was 19.23/100 and I was stoked with that!


OK just dug up the notes on this trip Mt Dare to Birdsville
751.7 ks
111.78 lts
14.87 l/100
$205 @$1.84
Hope this helps and gives you a guide I have a long range tank 186 l the sub tank had 30l and I had 25l on the roof
never used the sub or jerrycan on this trip plus had 60lts of water or a bit less

Sorry Kat, your figures were closer than mine...
Thats ok Winnie, we cant all be perfect.. pml

[liftlid]

OK just dug up the notes on this trip Mt Dare to Birdsville 751.7 ks 111.78 lts 14.87 l/100 $205 @$1.84 Hope this helps and gives you a guide I have a long range tank 186 l the sub tank had 30l and I had 25l on the roof never used the sub or jerrycan on this trip plus had 60lts of water or a bit less
I used 116 lt in my 4.2 going the other direction

[threedogs]

186ltr seems an odd size for a main replacement. What brand is is it mate.
Biggest I could find having a quick look was 146ltr main replacement
Or do you have a 146 main and a 30ltr aux = 176 ltrs

Totally agree Dom14 30 ltr Aux is just stupid, my aux was weeping so instead
of paying for it to be removed and repaired I opt for the 75 ltr Aux replacement.
Costs around $220-$250 to fill both at Melb prices

I think Prado have the best set up STD having 180ltrs to start with
change one tank to a 150 ltr and you have some serious touring range.
but these days distance between fuel has shortened quite a bit. but filling when prices are low
has its own benefits eh

[Sir Roofy]

I used 116 lt in my 4.2 going the other direction

high or low range I was lazy and left it in low

[Sir Roofy]

186ltr seems an odd size for a main replacement. What brand is is it mate.
Biggest I could find having a quick look was 146ltr main replacement
Or do you have a 146 main and a 30ltr aux = 176 ltrs

Totally agree Dom14 30 ltr Aux is just stupid, my aux was weeping so instead
of paying for it to be removed and repaired I opt for the 75 ltr Aux replacement.
Costs around $220-$250 to fill both at Melb prices

I think Prado have the best set up STD having 180ltrs to start with
change one tank to a 150 ltr and you have some serious touring range.
but these days distance between fuel has shortened quite a bit. but filling when prices are low
has its own benefits eh

@John my typo 146 lt mains sheeesh had me worried there for a minute

[liftlid]

high or low range I was lazy and left it in low
Bit of both, doesn't make much difference as I would just be in a higher gear in low.

[dom14]

You're talking about the belly tank under the drivers side though?

Yes. I'm not sure where the original tank was. There's kinda room in each side, but not much with other stuff like exhaust pipe etc. They wouldn't fit a tank closer to exhaust pipes anyway, would they?

[dom14]

@ Dom having dual fuel they probably removed your 95 litre tank to fit the gas tank.
you could then have a 75 litre aux , not sure how mant tanks you can fit, but when you think one jerry will do 100k
on the hwy. It doesnt look good if doing the Simmo ,you would need to adjust your driving style big time.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LONG-RANGE-FUEL-LRA-TANK-to-suit-NISSAN-PATROL-GU-WAGON-AUX-75-LTR-TANK-/121635036151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1c52035bf7


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Long-Range-Fuel-Tank-for-Nissan-Patrol-GU-Wagon-Petrol-Models-146L-Rear-Tank-/111656851017?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item19ff445649

I read somewhere that the original tank come with the RB30 was a tiny 40 litre tank. I might have read the wrong information then.
Yeah, it didn't make sense Nissan fitting a tiny tank to truck.
The under chassis LPG tank is at the tail end of the chassis.

That's where the original petrol tank is fitted?!

[Sir Roofy]

Bit of both, doesn't make much difference as I would just be in a higher gear in low.

yep same but the tracks weren't to bad some of the dunes where a bit soft either side but not as bad as would be