Tyre Comparo, What should i Buy for the GUIV [Archive]

MudRunnerTD

2nd July 2015, 09:13 AM

Hi guys,

I am up for a set of tyres for the GUIV. really really soon. I am torn on what to buy to be honest. Feedback would be great.

Price is important.

Size will be 305/70 R16

Heard and read great things about the KM2s and leaning that way.

The tyres will be for Outback and High Country touring. The GUIV is no longer my daily commuter but Naomi drives it local every day. Looking for an aggressive AT or a Muddy.

I had my eye on the Micky T 4 Rib a few years ago but they have discontinued them.

I have seen a few posts on the Nitto Trail Grabbers which look like an evolution of the BFG KM1, worried about Noise?

The Maxxis Radial Treps look great but bloody expensive! I am not sure i want to go another set of directional tyres either??

This is a big investment and will be for the next 5 to 8 years on the car. I want to get it right.

Currently i have the Khumo KL71s and they have been reasonable. Directional and had to flip them on rims a couple of times which adds to the overall cost of the tyre and makes them as expensive as anything else on the market???

TORN???

Really looking for honest feedback. Yes i know the KM2s do it well.

GO

threedogs

2nd July 2015, 09:18 AM

I would never fit directional tyres again,
KM2s seem to get a good rap.
5-8 years how many Ks a year will the GU travel ?

MudRunnerTD

2nd July 2015, 09:22 AM

At the moment it will be down to 15 to 20k a year on a big year Unless i do some trips. I fitted the Khumos 5 years ago almost to the day.

Beni C

2nd July 2015, 09:36 AM

I really wanted to put a set of Toyo AT2's on my Trol when I changed over to steel rims but Toyo ran a huge promo on them and I was waiting for ages so settled with Coopers ST-Maxx. Have always ran Toyos and love them! You will get 80k out of them without even breaking a sweat! My Dad is due for a new set for his Ranger and he is slapping them on, they look bloody good and are pretty good on the hip pocket too!

As for the Coopers they have been pretty good so far, done about 20k on them and they are wearing nicely, noise isnt bad, they dont seem to like long cornering though, can get a bit noisy. If you are after a true 50\50 tyre I would go with the Coopers.

Winnie

2nd July 2015, 09:45 AM

Do it once, do it right. KM2

Winnie

2nd July 2015, 10:10 AM

Or take the Simex's off the GQ and use those on the GU! She'll be right mate!
Better yet, chuck the 37s on the GU!!!

Rocket55

2nd July 2015, 03:07 PM

I think Nitto Trail Grapplers will go on my rig next time.

liftlid

2nd July 2015, 05:53 PM

I'm on my second set of km2 and won't be getting another, out of 8 Tyers 2 have had a warranty replacement due to de lamination inside tyre, and after 2 years are starting to get hard.

nissannewby

2nd July 2015, 06:51 PM

Im on my second set of km2s after getting 100k out of the first lot without a single issue.

Toyo, nitto, general and bfg would be the options I would be looking at for a daily . All good tyres with good reputation.

Rossco

2nd July 2015, 07:36 PM

Another one for the KM2s. Luv em. Seem to do everything well. They're certainly popular why not be a sheep and join the rest of us! !

lhurley

2nd July 2015, 07:52 PM

MudRunnerTD

2nd July 2015, 08:11 PM

Another for KM2s.

Just a question, any reason wanting 33s for daily? would it not be better for the daily commute to have some HT or AT in a 31 for road then something more aggressive for off road and trips?

As you might of gathered im a fan of the play tyres and everyday tyres.

Lol, that's an easy one. I have a Play Car! My wife would string me up if I suggested I needed 2 sets of tyres for the GUIV. In saying that I have 2 sets for the GQ. 37" Treps for play and 35" Cooper ST for the high country. I used these on the GUIV for the Simpson trip last year, so could fit those if I wanted.

I also have a set of 35 Simex ETs that I could technally keep for playing in the GUIV but again the missus would kill me and I'd prefer to sell them and use that cash towards a turbo upgrade on the GU maybe?

MudRunnerTD

2nd July 2015, 08:12 PM

Another one for the KM2s. Luv em. Seem to do everything well. They're certainly popular why not be a sheep and join the rest of us! !

Yeah struggling with just being a Sheep to be honest! Might happen anyway.

MudRunnerTD

2nd July 2015, 08:14 PM

Also considering Dunlop as they have a buy 3 get 4th free? And the forum sponsor Bridgestone too?

Ben-e-boy

2nd July 2015, 08:29 PM

Round ones that hold air

MudRunnerTD

2nd July 2015, 08:31 PM

Round ones that hold air

Glad your here!!

Ben-e-boy

2nd July 2015, 08:35 PM

Glad your here!!

*You're............ I'm always here to help

BigRAWesty

2nd July 2015, 08:37 PM

Micky's superseded the 4 rib with the atz p3. Maybe a bit conservative for you? But read good reviews.

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MudRunnerTD

3rd July 2015, 09:18 AM

So here are a few pics I found on Google

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/16.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/17.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/18.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/19.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/20.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/21.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/22.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/23.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/24.jpg

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BigRAWesty

3rd July 2015, 02:33 PM

The nittos look very similar to wrangler mtz's.. which is very aggressive imo.
If your looking for genuine daily tyre I b thinks it's the atz p3's, or at2's
I'm not suggesting the 980's as I'm still in the early stages of tyre life.
Wear has slowed but I still think there only a 60 thou tyre. For the price it's not to bad though and roughly on par

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Rocket55

3rd July 2015, 04:18 PM

Hmm... Lots of pics of the Nittos, are you leaning this way?

Bacho86

3rd July 2015, 05:33 PM

Hmm... Lots of pics of the Nittos, are you leaning this way?

I was going to say the exact say comment rocket.... 4 in a row!

MudRunnerTD

3rd July 2015, 06:21 PM

I like the look of the side biters on the Nittos. They look like they will provide some side wall protection.

I like the pics of the tyres actually on cars rather that the Advertising shots.

MudRunnerTD

3rd July 2015, 06:23 PM

The ATZ P3 looks pretty good as a compromise though. But Micky Ts get bloody expensive!!!!

Stropp

3rd July 2015, 06:41 PM

i have the hankook mt and im happy with them, so happy with hankook that i bought a set of at's as well but i did get a great price on them too.

Rossco

3rd July 2015, 06:54 PM

I do like the sidewalls on the nittos they look real good. The Micky Thompson AT2s look good for a more all terrain tyre. Do like MTZs too for me it was between them & BFs. . .

big_fletch

3rd July 2015, 08:32 PM

Have a look at the Dick Cepek Fun country, thats what im looking at putting on mine at the moment as i hate my current tyres haha

Rocket55

3rd July 2015, 09:25 PM

What are your current tyres?

big_fletch

3rd July 2015, 09:28 PM

What are your current tyres?

Federal couriga mud terrains in 33"

Rocket55

3rd July 2015, 09:36 PM

Noisey, low mileage?

big_fletch

3rd July 2015, 10:13 PM

Noisey, low mileage?

Noisy, continually going out of balance, be lucky too get 30,000 out of them. When wet they are very sketchy on the road. Ill admit great in the sloppy stuff but no way i would buy them again.

So as not too hijack M.R's thread, this is a tyre thats probably worth keeping off your list haha (at least from my experiance with them anyway)

MudRunnerTD

3rd July 2015, 10:22 PM

Yeah the federals are not on my long list let alone the short list ;)

How much a corner for the Dick Sepics Fletch?

3rd July 2015, 10:26 PM

Noisy, continually going out of balance, be lucky too get 30,000 out of them. When wet they are very sketchy on the road. Ill admit great in the sloppy stuff but no way i would buy them again. So as not too hijack M.R's thread, this is a tyre thats probably worth keeping off your list haha (at least from my experiance with them anyway) it was the only only reason I couldn't make it up big red!!!!!! Bahahaha

Cue the following comments ;)

big_fletch

3rd July 2015, 10:26 PM

Yeah the federals are not on my long list let alone the short list ;)

How much a corner for the Dick Sepics Fletch?

Haha probably a good thing mate

Prices from bob jane in shepparton without bargaining them down.
33 12.5.15 - $340
285 75 16 - $350
305 70 16 - $410
33 12.5 17 - $450

MudRunnerTD

3rd July 2015, 10:32 PM

it was the only only reason I couldn't make it up big red!!!!!! Bahahaha

Cue the following comments ;)

Yeah I was there watching from the Top! It was definitely the Federals..........

Stropp

4th July 2015, 12:43 AM

it was the only only reason I couldn't make it up big red!!!!!! Bahahaha

Cue the following comments ;)

I think the tyres were ok., just not enough right jandal :)

Winnie

4th July 2015, 07:16 AM

it was the only only reason I couldn't make it up big red!!!!!! Bahahaha

Cue the following comments ;)
Hahahaha.... Hahaha.... Haha... Ha
Yes, the "tyres"

Rossco

4th July 2015, 09:41 AM

it was the only only reason I couldn't make it up big red!!!!!! Bahahaha

Cue the following comments ;)
Yeah definatly the tyres. They just just weren't biting into that slippery sand! ! Hahahahahaha. . . . You should write Federal a firmly worded letter. . .

macca86

4th July 2015, 10:55 AM

This is what you want I bought this of these guys last year no worries
http://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/tyres/4wd-tyres/16-mud-terrain/boat-trailer-wheel-tyre-13x5-5-ht-175r13l-t-part-8.html

MudRunnerTD

4th July 2015, 11:26 AM

This is what you want I bought this of these guys last year no worries
http://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/tyres/4wd-tyres/16-mud-terrain/boat-trailer-wheel-tyre-13x5-5-ht-175r13l-t-part-8.html

Yeah hard to go past at that price. Knowing the KM2s are around at that price is the reason price is so important. If others are $400 a corner the KMs are going to win the day.

Winnie

4th July 2015, 11:28 AM

They are a great tyre both on and off the road.
They behave a hell of a lot better on road than my old Maxxis All Terrains.

krbrooking

4th July 2015, 11:56 AM

So here are a few pics I found on Google Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk cause AB turned it back on!!

I really like the look of the 8th pics especially on those rims.
Have a look into pro comp extreme at's. I have had mine on for over 5 yrs now and have gotten over 130k out of them and they are still going strong. Don't really have good side biters though. Got a price off a bloke from beaurepairs at $370 a corner which I thought was a bit high as I only paid $315 a corner but that was 5 yrs ago.

macca86

4th July 2015, 12:33 PM

BigRAWesty

5th July 2015, 11:57 AM

This is what you want I bought this of these guys last year no worries
http://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/tyres/4wd-tyres/16-mud-terrain/boat-trailer-wheel-tyre-13x5-5-ht-175r13l-t-part-8.html
Just had a look at the 15" tyres. Got told they don't do a km2 33x10.5.....
And at $260. That's what I paid for my maxxis. ....

Winnie

5th July 2015, 12:21 PM

Yes they do make them...

MudRunnerTD

5th July 2015, 01:48 PM

For that price of $300 per corner for the km2 305/70/16 what's left to challenge it. I went out with mates and this tyre impressed them in the mud dirt and sand. I've never been bogged in these tyres wearing brilliantly I see no competition for that price

I assume these are a parallel import and won't carry the factory warranty. Great price though. Have you had any trouble with them at all Macca? I have sent them an email today asking for a price and fitting and will enquire about the warranty.

Skitzyrex

5th July 2015, 06:42 PM

I have the nitto trail grapplers that you're considering and have nothing but praise for them. Grip both in the mud, and on the road, wet and dry is great. I also like the extra sidewall grip. 59459

lhurley

5th July 2015, 06:52 PM

I assume these are a parallel import and won't carry the factory warranty. Great price though. Have you had any trouble with them at all Macca? I have sent them an email today asking for a price and fitting and will enquire about the warranty.

Not to sure about the place macca got his km2s from, but i bought mine from cornell tyres. They are in sydney and do free shipping around aus. They import the km2s themselves (as well as other tyres), and then on sell them to the public as well as tyre shops.

When i got mine i paid $300 each for a 305/70r16 plus $15 fitting, so $315 fitted. Best i could get locally was $420 fitted.

I told one of the local tyre shops that i could get them from 300 and he was pissed, started saying they were a fake and not the same, i then called cornells and told them what old mate had said and cornells just said that old mate was just pissed cause he probably buys them for $300 for his tyre shop

Skitzyrex

5th July 2015, 07:05 PM

Not to sure about the place macca got his km2s from, but i bought mine from cornell tyres. They are in sydney and do free shipping around aus. They import the km2s themselves (as well as other tyres), and then on sell them to the public as well as tyre shops.

When i got mine i paid $300 each for a 305/70r16 plus $15 fitting, so $315 fitted. Best i could get locally was $420 fitted.

I told one of the local tyre shops that i could get them from 300 and he was pissed, started saying they were a fake and not the same, i then called cornells and told them what old mate had said and cornells just said that old mate was just pissed cause he probably buys them for $300 for his tyre shop

Do you have their web address? Had a look and couldn't see them.

lhurley

5th July 2015, 07:09 PM

Do you have their web address? Had a look and couldn't see them.

Dont think they have one, they have an ebay store, but i just called them. I was recommended them by a mate off of here.

They are actually called Don Cornells.

nissannewby

5th July 2015, 07:23 PM

I assume these are a parallel import and won't carry the factory warranty. Great price though. Have you had any trouble with them at all Macca? I have sent them an email today asking for a price and fitting and will enquire about the warranty.

I used the prices from huntsman and don cornells to get jax pretty much on par. Jax were $25 dearer a tyre but this included fitting and balancing. Cornells was 375 delivered only. It might be an option for you to help with other shops and their prices.

MudRunnerTD

6th July 2015, 12:55 PM

This is what you want I bought this of these guys last year no worries
http://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/tyres/4wd-tyres/16-mud-terrain/boat-trailer-wheel-tyre-13x5-5-ht-175r13l-t-part-8.html

Spoke to these guys today, they have plenty of stock, they charge $15 per tyre to fit. They are a parallel import and they match the BFG Warranty on a back to base policy, I take the tyre to them and they warranty on a prorate basis. 70% tread means70% replacement value. They have been selling them for 5 years and never had a claim.....

threedogs

6th July 2015, 01:23 PM

$300 a corner is pretty good IMO , nice aggressive style looks as though they
arent too noisey either

macca86

6th July 2015, 07:42 PM

I am 27000km into my tyres only problem I had was a tyre valve stem leaked got that sorted for free at my mecanic. I still have 12mm of tread or more on these tyres. The behave brilliantly in all conditions and rate them better than previous tyres I've used like bfg at and Micky t atz4rib

MudRunnerTD

18th July 2015, 08:00 PM

Car booked in at Hunters Products in Mordialoc on Monday morning for 5 new BFG KM2s in 305/70R16. $300 each. $1500 fitted and balanced, drive n drive out. Cant beat that!

BigRAWesty

18th July 2015, 08:17 PM

That's a killer price

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Rossco

18th July 2015, 08:31 PM

Car booked in at Hunters Products in Mordialoc on Monday morning for 5 new BFG KM2s in 305/70R16. $300 each. $1500 fitted and balanced, drive n drive out. Cant beat that!
Yeah nice. Now you will be like the rest of us! ! Hahaha.

Seriously think you should be happy . . . Good price too.

Winnie

18th July 2015, 10:28 PM

Car booked in at Hunters Products in Mordialoc on Monday morning for 5 new BFG KM2s in 305/70R16. $300 each. $1500 fitted and balanced, drive n drive out. Cant beat that!
Perfect tyre for your GU mate... You will be impressed

Fwdpatrol

19th July 2015, 07:04 AM

Why do we in Australlia put up with the rip off cluture
Tyre prices is just one are,
Fuel prices is another
Most of these tyres you can directly inport from USA directly paying full import duties and still only end up paying about half of what Australia retailers demand

MudRunnerTD

20th July 2015, 06:24 PM

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/192.jpg

Nice and quiet after driving on Knackered Kumhos. Feels great.

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Clunk

20th July 2015, 06:31 PM

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/07/192.jpg

Nice and quiet after driving on Knackered Kumhos. Feels great.

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Ooooh look at you with your white writing out

Winnie

20th July 2015, 06:45 PM

Ooooh look at you with your white writing out
You mean blue writing! Haha wash that crap off Darren!

Bloodyaussie

20th July 2015, 06:50 PM

I love the KM2's.... they are a brilliant tyre.

If things go well next year I will look to buying these again.

MudRunnerTD

20th July 2015, 10:32 PM

Ooooh look at you with your white writing out

It's how the Kool kids roll mate.

liftlid

21st July 2015, 08:48 AM

Just been reading a few comments about warranty claims on this thread, you need the warranty so be careful who you buy them from,
The tyre delaminates on the inside, you won't know until it blows out, I only found out when I had an unrelated flat fixed, and got them checked and replaced under warranty.

Stevelb21

29th July 2015, 04:35 PM

Car booked in at Hunters Products in Mordialoc on Monday morning for 5 new BFG KM2s in 305/70R16. $300 each. $1500 fitted and balanced, drive n drive out. Cant beat that!

what lift you running with those tyres

Stevelb21

29th July 2015, 04:48 PM

Stevelb21

29th July 2015, 06:46 PM

General Tyres Grubber SLR
http://www.generaltire.com.au/tires/T35/Grabber

Dick Cepek Country Mud
http://www.dickcepek.com/tires.php?item=MudCountry

MickyThompson ATZ P3
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com.au/index.php?page=ATZ-P3

bazzaboy

30th July 2015, 01:11 PM

I bought a set of KM2s with the intention swapping them between my road tryes as needed. I ended up leaving them on all the time as they have better road manners than the old series. I've done about 30,000 on them so far with no signs of ware. They also seem less noisey that the old ones. Very happy with them.

Bazza

MudRunnerTD

30th July 2015, 02:49 PM

Ive narrowed my tyre choice down to 3 tyres Dick Cepek Country Mud $1880 5 off 285x75x16, Micky Thompsons Baja ATZ P3 at $375 per tyre fitted and last of all General Tyres Grabber SLR $1855 5 tyres.

Anyone used General Tyres before, if so what are they like

These tyre whatever I choose will be accompanied with a 2" lift, was told by 3 different tyre companies not to put 305 on a 16" GU rim

Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated

What was their logic for not fitting 305s to the nissan time? They are a 16x8 rim and the 305s go on just fine.

My GUIV has a 130k old 3" lift on it and rides great and clears the Tyres no problem. I have Rockcrawler rims in a 16x8 neg6 offset. The nissan offset is +10.

MudRunnerTD

30th July 2015, 02:50 PM

They KM2s were $1500 for 5 fitted and balanced.

MudRunnerTD

14th September 2015, 04:49 PM

This is what you want I bought this of these guys last year no worries
http://www.huntsmanproducts.com.au/tyres/4wd-tyres/16-mud-terrain/boat-trailer-wheel-tyre-13x5-5-ht-175r13l-t-part-8.html

Mego, check these out mate, their web site now has them listed for $420 a tyre on my phone but they still have them listed at $300 too. They are a Parallel Import but they warranty. Note the Aussie Dollar has crashed! If you can still get on these at $300 a corner your on a winner.

MEGOMONSTER

14th September 2015, 04:52 PM

Mego, check these out mate, their web site now has them listed for $420 a tyre on my phone but they still have them listed at $300 too. They are a Parallel Import but they warranty. Note the Aussie Dollar has crashed! If you can still get on these at $300 a corner your on a winner.

I found some local in stock for 300 a corner

Cheers thx