Renewing swivel hub seals

[growler2058]

Hi all am putting a swivel hub seal kit in ovr the coming weekend, I've downloaded the manual and also have a gregorys manual. Is there anything i should be paying special attention to. or look out for. i've just been going over the post from Tony regarding replacing cv for a gu which he uses a gq front diff, which is what I've got, but any extra advice or hints would be great Cheers.

[Bigrig]

Ummmm .... don't cock it up!!! LOL .. about all the advice I can offer old mate!!!

[growler2058]

Ummmm .... don't cock it up!!! LOL .. about all the advice I can offer old mate!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA cheers bigrig I'll take that on board mate! HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Bigrig]

HAHAHAHAHAHA cheers bigrig I'll take that on board mate! HAHAHAHAHAHA

How did you go?

[growler2058]

How did you go?

Good Arvo mate, so far so sorta good. Ive taken photers and will spin a bit of a yarn with them when I get a moment.

Thanks to Tony's detailed photographic thread, gettin everything apart has gone pretty good. (Onya Tony your a bloody legend) The drivers side has been a bit more biatchi than the passengers side. The rear (large bearing) stayed on the spindle when i pulled the disc off. So will be a bit harder to clean and repack. The upper and lower swivel hub bearings are FUBAR'd and need renewal. So if anyone out there can tell me how to get these little EFFERS off, be muchly asppreciated. Passenger side all came apart nicely with only minor swearing and use of a rubber pursuader. But as we speak I'm havin trouble getting the inner seals outa the diff. I'm assuming I'm gunna have to get a screwdriver carefully under it without gouging the surface that it seals against and gently smash the litl bastard out.........just a little frustrated. Any way tools down for today gotta get those bearings in and these old bastards off and the beer for the day is starting to kick in so safety first and STEP AWAY FROM THE VEHICLE SIR. But all in all a productive day. I would feel comfortable now changing a CV out bush or gettin the old girl in a position that we could limp home at least. Big advantage of trying all these types of DIY's is that when you see it goin together or comin apart first hand is as they say a Bird in the hand is worth Two in the bush. if that makes any sense hahahaaha yep the beers are definatley kikn in so i'll lurk around in the forum shadows for a while!! hahahahahahahhaha


And thanks to bigrig for his extremely useful advice u 2 are a legend hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha Cheers M8

[YNOT]

The inner wheel bearing should come off with a little encouragement from a hammer and drift.

The outer part of the swivel hub bearings (with the rollers on it) just unbolt, 4 bolts in each top and bottom. You then need to remove the swivel hub from the axle housing. The bearing cones you can get behind with a hammer and pin punch.

I find the easist way to remove the inner axle oil seal is with a hook type seal puller, as you said be careful not to damage where the seal sits in the housing.

Enjoy the beers and stop encouraging Bigrig!

Tony

[Bigrig]

Good Arvo mate, so far so sorta good. Ive taken photers and will spin a bit of a yarn with them when I get a moment.

Thanks to Tony's detailed photographic thread, gettin everything apart has gone pretty good. (Onya Tony your a bloody legend) The drivers side has been a bit more biatchi than the passengers side. The rear (large bearing) stayed on the spindle when i pulled the disc off. So will be a bit harder to clean and repack. The upper and lower swivel hub bearings are FUBAR'd and need renewal. So if anyone out there can tell me how to get these little EFFERS off, be muchly asppreciated. Passenger side all came apart nicely with only minor swearing and use of a rubber pursuader. But as we speak I'm havin trouble getting the inner seals outa the diff. I'm assuming I'm gunna have to get a screwdriver carefully under it without gouging the surface that it seals against and gently smash the litl bastard out.........just a little frustrated. Any way tools down for today gotta get those bearings in and these old bastards off and the beer for the day is starting to kick in so safety first and STEP AWAY FROM THE VEHICLE SIR. But all in all a productive day. I would feel comfortable now changing a CV out bush or gettin the old girl in a position that we could limp home at least. Big advantage of trying all these types of DIY's is that when you see it goin together or comin apart first hand is as they say a Bird in the hand is worth Two in the bush. if that makes any sense hahahaaha yep the beers are definatley kikn in so i'll lurk around in the forum shadows for a while!! hahahahahahahhaha


And thanks to bigrig for his extremely useful advice u 2 are a legend hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha Cheers M8

Happy to help champion!!! LOL ... glad it's going well though ... ish ...

[growler2058]

The inner wheel bearing should come off with a little encouragement from a hammer and drift.

The outer part of the swivel hub bearings (with the rollers on it) just unbolt, 4 bolts in each top and bottom. You then need to remove the swivel hub from the axle housing. The bearing cones you can get behind with a hammer and pin punch.

I find the easist way to remove the inner axle oil seal is with a hook type seal puller, as you said be careful not to damage where the seal sits in the housing.

Enjoy the beers and stop encouraging Bigrig!

Tony
I just pushed the wrong button and dont know where my reply went.... bloody beer. Any way i got the upper and lower bearings off thje hub but cant get them off the plates and they are fuc32d.

The inner wheel bearing seem to be in good nick so im worried about stuffin it gettin it off do you rekon its worth tryin to repack the grease insitu or not.

Cheers mate your pictorial was worth a mint today.:drunk:

[Bigrig]

I just pushed the wrong button and dont know where my reply went.... bloody beer. Any way i got the upper and lower bearings off thje hub but cant get them off the plates and they are fuc32d.

The inner wheel bearing seem to be in good nick so im worried about stuffin it gettin it off do you rekon its worth tryin to repack the grease insitu or not.

Cheers mate your pictorial was worth a mint today.:drunk:

Right, here's what to do ...

Psych!!!! Like I know!!! LMFAO!!!!

[Bob]

Right, here's what to do ...

Psych!!!! Like I know!!! LMFAO!!!!

You really are at a loose end today Scotty ROFLMAO

[YNOT]

I just pushed the wrong button and dont know where my reply went.... bloody beer. Any way i got the upper and lower bearings off thje hub but cant get them off the plates and they are fuc32d.

The inner wheel bearing seem to be in good nick so im worried about stuffin it gettin it off do you rekon its worth tryin to repack the grease insitu or not.

Cheers mate your pictorial was worth a mint today.:drunk:

You might need to invest in a bearing puller to get the bearings off, unless............how accurate are you with an angle grinder???

Definately repack the wheel bearing as best you can.

Glad I could help mate.

Tony

[YNOT]

You really are at a loose end today Scotty ROFLMAO

He's locked in a house with 4 kids on a wet day, he's probably hiding in a wardrobe trying to get some peace and quiet - it's difficult to think straight in those situations!

Tony

[growler2058]

Right, here's what to do ...

Psych!!!! Like I know!!! LMFAO!!!!

Mate you never cease to amaze once again thanks for your amazingly useful input! hahahahahhahahahaha R u comin to loveday easter 2012?
hope so I'll be able to give you good insight in mud recovery hahahahahahhahahaha maybe if I'm not stuck meself hahahahahaha onya m8

[growler2058]

She who must be obeyed said "get in the shower you filthy so n so",. I thought the solvol had done a alright job....apparently not. So in I go WOW igot grease outa orifices i didn't know i even had! hahahahahhaaha

[Bigrig]

Mate you never cease to amaze once again thanks for your amazingly useful input! hahahahahhahahahaha R u comin to loveday easter 2012?
hope so I'll be able to give you good insight in mud recovery hahahahahahhahahaha maybe if I'm not stuck meself hahahahahaha onya m8

I'll be there with bells on ...

[growler2058]

You gotta start the day right below is sort of a how it happened day.
Gotta have a good brekkie to tackle the task.
Drain the diff oil nearly forgot, dont forget to do this or you'll be in a right mess.
1st special tool what a great gadget! From wheel nuts to drain plug.
Next very special tool Tonys pictorial, and the cold can and can of hand wash.
Even after numerous washes look at my discs, theres some serious clianing to be done there dont rekon my vented disc is achieving what its meant to.
And the last shot is my "gentle" pursuader, every nut and bolt to date on my troll has been so bloody tight even these allen keys, sometimes a little help is needed, I prefer to use the rubber mallet as its big and I can give it a hell of a crack if need i just find less chance of missing the target and hitting my fingers with a mash or lump hammer. Anyway thats it for now, i,m gunna try cutting the old bearings off today and order in my new ones. And ive got a bloody hangover so be nursing that a bit as well

[Bigrig]

You gotta start the day right below is sort of a how it happened day.
Gotta have a good brekkie to tackle the task.
Drain the diff oil nearly forgot, dont forget to do this or you'll be in a right mess.
1st special tool what a great gadget! From wheel nuts to drain plug.
Next very special tool Tonys pictorial, and the cold can and can of hand wash.
Even after numerous washes look at my discs, theres some serious clianing to be done there dont rekon my vented disc is achieving what its meant to.
And the last shot is my "gentle" pursuader, every nut and bolt to date on my troll has been so bloody tight even these allen keys, sometimes a little help is needed, I prefer to use the rubber mallet as its big and I can give it a hell of a crack if need i just find less chance of missing the target and hitting my fingers with a mash or lump hammer. Anyway thats it for now, i,m gunna try cutting the old bearings off today and order in my new ones. And ive got a bloody hangover so be nursing that a bit as well

Top post mate!! Never would have given thought to the brekky piece had you not mentioned it and thrown up a picture!! LOL

[growler2058]

Top post mate!! Never would have given thought to the brekky piece had you not mentioned it and thrown up a picture!! LOL

Katwoman put a egg n bacon piccie up yesterday in the night shift thread and gave me the idea...... Now has anybody got a hangover cure apart from dont drink hahaha

[Bigrig]

Katwoman put a egg n bacon piccie up yesterday in the night shift thread and gave me the idea...... Now has anybody got a hangover cure apart from dont drink hahaha

Mine was the complete opposite - have a drink. Proven that it gets the good endorphins kicking again and makes you feel better ... honest!!

[growler2058]

Mine was the complete opposite - have a drink. Proven that it gets the good endorphins kicking again and makes you feel better ... honest!!

OK im givn it a crack give anything a crack at the moment, cause I dont think i could face the angle grinder just yet

[Silver]

I bought a kit from an online place based just down the road from me in Geebung, a suburb of Brisbane. It had all the bits from the swivel hub seals and axle seal out to the lock washer for the wheel bearing retaining nut, except for the king pin plugs. You can get these from Nissan for $30 each if you stuff them up while removing the cups for the swivel/king pin bearings - look closely inside the swivel housing and you'll see little cutouts through which it is possible to drive out the cups without killing the plugs. I used a stuffed straight blade screwdriver.

As to the puller for those swivel hub bearings, I went to Trade Tools, a Qld institution, and bought an AB-2 Bearing Puller 24 - 55 mm, otherwise known as an armature puller. I am hopeless at getting photos onto my computer or I'd take a pic - I see you are in Adelaide?

Don't forget to put the swivel hub seals onto the diff housing before fitting the swivel hub :-)

[Silver]

Hmm googled AB-2 bearing puller with a view to grabbing an image - found them pretty easily but technology again triumphs - so feel free to google :-)

[growler2058]

Hmm googled AB-2 bearing puller with a view to grabbing an image - found them pretty easily but technology again triumphs - so feel free to google :-)

Onya mate cheers, I'll have a look

[growler2058]

Mine was the complete opposite - have a drink. Proven that it gets the good endorphins kicking again and makes you feel better ... honest!!

Done the trick :bananarock:

[Bigrig]

Done the trick :bananarock:

Bootiful!!! Now back to that problem!! LOL

[growler2058]

Bootiful!!! Now back to that problem!! LOL

Got the little effers, not without blood sweat and tears, the tears came after the swivel hub cap and bearing dislodged from the vice, did a tripple back flip with a double pike summersault and came down at near terminal velocity impacting with my baby finger nail splitting the nail and spilling claret!. Oh the things we do for troll love hahahahaha. once I finished crying sweating and bleeding jumped straight back on that horse and smashed three shades of SH!t outa the little buggers with the cold chisel and no rubber mallet this time. Out with the lumpy the big guns. Now on a serious note wear your personal protective equipment (PPE). If you attempt to try removing as i have done bebloodyware when the hardened steel of the bearing breaks it is like a little hand grenade sending schrapnel in all directions. I had my safety glasses on but have got little blood spots on my face from the little chips, theyre like glass splinters, please be careful if you ever give this a go it'll take an eye no worries.

:cheers::thumbup:

Just gotta get the bearings in from the auto shop and hopefully put back together next weekend. All in all a successful weekend bar the broken bleeding fingernail swollen knuckle and a couple of nicks in the face.

Oh and a killer hangover that was cured by ol m8 Big Rig onya mate!!

[Silver]

Good advice Growlers, and not something that we always follow. One of the most interesting wounds I saw inflicted in an auto repair was a mechanic mate of mine opening up the ball of his work hardened thumb on the edge of a piston in a C4 auto box. I heard it cut from about 5 metres away, and while it was only superficial, it was a surprisingly big cut from such a source.

Likewise, pensioner neighbour's mechanic is still hospitalised as we speak with something in his eye late last week.....

On a personal note, despite having read that angle grinders are amongst the most dangerous home handyman tools, I ended up cuddling one against my shirtless chest after cutting part way through a gal drain pipe under our house - happened before I realised it, and luckily nothing more than a little abrasion.

[Bigrig]

Oh and a killer hangover that was cured by ol m8 Big Rig onya mate!!

If ever I had a value on this forum mate, that would be it!! LOL. Glad you sorted the rig and super glad that my "secret" remedy fixed the head!!! LMFAO

[growler2058]

Good advice Growlers, and not something that we always follow. One of the most interesting wounds I saw inflicted in an auto repair was a mechanic mate of mine opening up the ball of his work hardened thumb on the edge of a piston in a C4 auto box. I heard it cut from about 5 metres away, and while it was only superficial, it was a surprisingly big cut from such a source.

Likewise, pensioner neighbour's mechanic is still hospitalised as we speak with something in his eye late last week.....

On a personal note, despite having read that angle grinders are amongst the most dangerous home handyman tools, I ended up cuddling one against my shirtless chest after cutting part way through a gal drain pipe under our house - happened before I realised it, and luckily nothing more than a little abrasion.

I've seen the result of a young apprentice who fell off dodgy brickies scaffold with a 9" angle grinder it sliced his left arm lenghtways through the bone nearly died from loss of blood his vital organs shut down he's very very lucky lad to still be alive

[Burden]

Im just about to do mine. Thanks for the info in this post guys.

[growler2058]

Im just about to do mine. Thanks for the info in this post guys.

Theres a pictorial thread by YNOT thats really helpful I'll try find it but dont bet on it im not real good remembering where i found stuff

[growler2058]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?2067-How-do-i-change-a-gu-cv

Here it is its better than the gregorys manual

[Burden]

Thanks a ton.