Working Tail Light Install

[_Laurie]

Hi, I apologise in advance for the vagueness. Im on my 3rd phone and have lost all my pictures..
I was originally going to have a complete step by step for series 1-3 working tail light install but like I said phone issues.

Basically it was pretty straight forward and I haven't had any issues with fuses blowing etc like some others have mentioned (I have also done towing with the working set and no problems with the additional trailer lighting)

I'll try tell it as best I can from memory.

The tail lights come out reasonably easy, they're just held in by a couple of screws from the inside of the body, just remove the interior trim.

I've used a pair of series 3 tail lights (red brake lense with clear indicator and reverse) with globes off ebay. Updates the look a little.

On mine, a series 1 GU, it has plugs to both sides pre-installed.
The left hand rear is pre wired with the LH indicator, Reverse, tail, brake and -ve.
The right hand rear is pre-wired with the RH indicator and tail (i think)
I pulled up the flooring trim that runs across the floor at the tailgate and used a drill to hollow out a channel. Inside this I taped 3 wires, an oversize -ve, (might've been 2.5mm and 2 x 1.5mm) for the reverse and brake lights.
Just take care when you run the cables that they wont get caught in any pinch points etc, I used the drill to take off some plasctic here and there.
I also used some rubber edging to protect the cables where they ran past metal.
After that it was just terminating and bolting the new lights in.

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[threedogs]

I used mine as reverse lights using LEDs

[TroutNut]

I used mine as reverse lights using LEDs
Thanks for a good idea, I though about hooking up the body mounted lenses (that are decorations on my GQ) to increase the tail visibility, as my tails are only in the bumper, but I have no globe holder fitting as of yet in the body lenses. No reverse light to speak of yet other than the factory reverse light indicater, and your idea is a neat way of installing decent reverse lights. I hate reversing in the scrub when I cant see a thing.

[_Laurie]

Oh yeah I should also mention that the photo makes the reverse look orange, but is actually white.

Ive been tossing up whether to use LEDs, hows the light for reverse? Just by adding the extra one on the RH side has made a huge difference in visibility.

I added this post as its an alternative to others where they run the cable from the bumper or through bodywork etc. this way keeps all cabling more or less within the bodywork. I just wish I hadnt lost those photos Bang Head

That's a good idea about doubling up on the reverse for going bush, depends what you want I guess, mine was done for extra peace of mind that people can see me when they glance up in between their texting...

[TroutNut]

Those Cree leds are the go I reckon, amazing amount of light for a tiny chip, but they run fairly hot too. Im never in reverse for extended periods of time though.

[threedogs]

LEDs produce no heat as there is no working part so to speak. I have 2 x 120 smd LEDs in each side
reversing in the bush is now doable, I have since removed to 27watt flood light, as Ive plenty of light.
so 480 smd leds in all , in fact my Patrol is completely LED and HID

[Bigcol]

That's a good idea about doubling up on the reverse for going bush, depends what you want I guess, mine was done for extra peace of mind that people can see me when they glance up in between their texting...

one of the main reasons I did this mod within a week of buying my GU
on the drive home from when I picked it up, I nearly had 4 people run up my clackker as they dont see the lights in the bottom of the bumper.......

also why I still haven't gotten around to a rear bar...... dont like the lights in ANY of the ones I have seen
(yes I know they are "LED" and very bright - at night - its the day time loser's on the road I worry about
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[threedogs]

I have white globes behind the red brake and yellow[amber] len's.
The only globe I didnt change as PPL were staring all the time was the OE
amber globe for the front indicators, PPl have no problems seeing what Im doing now
in the daytime. FYI dont put red leds behind red len's that may be your problem

[Bigcol]

nah TD, I dont have any LED's at the back...............

that pic was AFTER I had the lenses taken off and cleaned...........

I put in Euro spec tail lights, as all the fittings are already in them, only had to run a wire for the reversing light on RHside

[TroutNut]

LEDs produce no heat as there is no working part so to speak. I have 2 x 120 smd LEDs in each side
reversing in the bush is now doable, I have since removed to 27watt flood light, as Ive plenty of light.
so 480 smd leds in all , in fact my Patrol is completely LED and HID

Sounds good. My only experience with the new cree led's is a headlamp with a cree xml t6 chip, it gets smoking hot after a while. Even came with a warning not to touch the lense or surrounding heat sink fins, they stuck the power button at the back of your head to keep fingers away from the light bit.

[mudski]

LEDs produce no heat as there is no working part so to speak. I have 2 x 120 smd LEDs in each side
reversing in the bush is now doable, I have since removed to 27watt flood light, as Ive plenty of light.
so 480 smd leds in all , in fact my Patrol is completely LED and HID

They actually do produce heat, but not as much as an incandescent would. Otherwise my light bar would have cooling fins on the back of it. And my LED downlights too.

[the evil twin]

They actually do produce heat, but not as much as an incandescent would. Otherwise my light bar would have cooling fins on the back of it. And my LED downlights too.

Your both right... sort of... LED's don't produce heat but the electronics to drive them does (sometimes a little sometimes a lot) and they are normally co-located.

[mudski]

Your both right... sort of... LED's don't produce heat but the electronics to drive them does (sometimes a little sometimes a lot) and they are normally co-located.

Yes I was going to edit that to my OP but got the CBF's. Lol.

[4bye4]

Thought I'd add to the rear light portfolio.
This set from Patro lA Part. easy install and effective. Brake lights work as well but couldn' make my foot reach that far from the camera.
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[Winnie]

Yes I was going to edit that to my OP but got the CBF's. Lol.

Not a lot of heat either, I'd call it warmth. Lol. A lot of the cheaper ones can actually get to what I would call, very warm, though.
Incandescent lights are approximately 10% light, 90% heat, and the filaments burn at over 2000 degress celsius.

[Malgreen]

hi guys...
time for some advice please..
i have a 08 crd patrol and i got the working rear lights off from Ebay..

ok , but the problem i got is in the wiring... i cant find the factory loom that i keep hearing about,,
so, will i have to splice off from the lights in the bumper or from the towbar? will the existing wiring be able to handle the bumper lights and the towbar and the extra lights that i will add? i am also thinking of another set of lights on the roof rack.
but i am worried about the load on existing wiring.
i was thinking of running a new power line down to the back and run relays off from the positive wires for each set of lights.. ie relay for brake, parkers, indicators and reverse.
that would mean that the active wire ,for say, the brakes would activate the relay to turn on brake lights in the new lights...
if i did this, would the indicators blink at a different rate?,,

or

i just wire directly from the towbar wiring and replace all globes with led? less draw and less stress on the wiring ( and me,, lol )

cheers

[4bye4]

The set I got from Patrol a part had led brake and tail lights, so no real increase in load. Factory loom should be plugged into the passenger side tail lights which are usually wired in. You may need to pick up drivers side indicator from the bumper bar.
IMO the existing wiring should handle it OK or there would be problems every time someone hooked up a caravan or whatever. The turn indicators would probably flash at a slightly different rate but should be ok. If you are going to put lights on the roof rack, I would suggest that you put a plug and socket in so the RR can be removed from the vehicle if you want. I even have my RR spots, I mean work lights on a plug and socket system.

[Ibbo]

Can you buy just the loom, globe holders and globes to fit into the existing blank rear body lights in the GU? I have had a look on ebay and patrolapart but can only find them as a package with lenses

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