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jay see
15th March 2015, 05:15 AM
I run pretty much empty 90% of the time, when I do load it up its not too much, if it doesn't sit level I'll use appropriate spacers.

Front as TJM bar and winch with cable.

Springs: Kings springs KDFR42HD and KDPR43LP

As for shockers I'm thinking of using a 2-4" shocker instead of a 0-2" to assist with at full flex. l've used the ironman foamcell in the past and have find them to be alright. Don't need/want adjustable ones, just ones that will work at a reasonable price $200 odd. EFS, Tough dog, etc ?????? I know its not needed to extend brake lines, but thinking of sway bar extenders again to assist at full flex.

What are you thoughts on this set up.....

threedogs
15th March 2015, 06:44 AM
Not sure why you would want coil spacers, for me as I always travel light I would like a slight down hill look.
If and when I tow my camper it will even out the ride, any good shop will tailor your set up to suit what mods you have , dual battery etc
or future mods , the driver side coil id slightly longer to allow for the weight of the driver. Any 2" lift with some muddies aired down
with the Patrol LSD will see you go most places,so factor in any weight you may add in the future when ordering

BigRAWesty
15th March 2015, 08:50 AM
Unless you want to extend bump stops and all that just stick with the 2" lift right around. Springs and shocks.

And for $200 you really get what you pay for.

I'd say save some more and grab old man emu, ironman have a new range, or other upper market gear.

Last thing you want is a cheap shock or spring failing out in a trip.

threedogs
15th March 2015, 08:56 AM
If money was not an issue I'd be fitting Koni shocks all around only heard good about them,
Re buildable and adjustable too but $500 a corner ???

Whats wrong with a 2" EFS system ??

growler2058
15th March 2015, 09:21 AM
Sway bar disconnects are going to help flex much more than extended links

mudski
15th March 2015, 10:02 AM
Sway bar disconnects are going to help flex much more than extended links

He's probably going to need extended links anyway even with a 2inch lift. The sway bar is supposed to be dead level and with a lift they wont. Plus the disconnects will be adjustable/ extended.

jay see
15th March 2015, 04:19 PM
Not sure why you would want coil spacers, for me as I always travel light I would like a slight down hill look.
If and when I tow my camper it will even out the ride, any good shop will tailor your set up to suit what mods you have , dual battery etc
or future mods , the driver side coil id slightly longer to allow for the weight of the driver. Any 2" lift with some muddies aired down
with the Patrol LSD will see you go most places,so factor in any weight you may add in the future when ordering

I prefer it to sit level. Spacers only if needed.
Allow for extra weight of the driver........ Haha yeah I'm really going to weigh it down.
Future mods may require different springs in the rear, but that won't be for a while.

jay see
15th March 2015, 04:25 PM
Unless you want to extend bump stops and all that just stick with the 2" lift right around. Springs and shocks.

And for $200 you really get what you pay for.

I'd say save some more and grab old man emu, ironman have a new range, or other upper market gear.

Last thing you want is a cheap shock or spring failing out in a trip.

That's want I want to do 2" life, do bump stops need to be touched if using 2-4 shocker?
Will definitely be looking at brand name shockers.

jay see
15th March 2015, 04:28 PM
If money was not an issue I'd be fitting Koni shocks all around only heard good about them,
Re buildable and adjustable too but $500 a corner ???

Whats wrong with a 2" EFS system ??

If only.......

I see EFS and ironman similar.

jay see
15th March 2015, 04:30 PM
Sway bar disconnects are going to help flex much more than extended links

Yes true, but I'll prefer to put something on and just leave it there.

BigRAWesty
15th March 2015, 04:31 PM
That's want I want to do 2" life, do bump stops need to be touched if using 2-4 shocker? Will definitely be looking at brand name shockers.

If you go with a +2" shock. No.
If you go a +3 or more then yes.

jay see
15th March 2015, 04:39 PM
He's probably going to need extended links anyway even with a 2inch lift. The sway bar is supposed to be dead level and with a lift they wont. Plus the disconnects will be adjustable/ extended.

I could do this later.

I like this idea of the extenderd because my last 4wd drive i snapped the sway bar link was a bit of a dog on the road but the flex was improved. Will see if i can dig up an old photo.

BigRAWesty
15th March 2015, 04:58 PM
I could do this later. I like this idea of the extenderd because my last 4wd drive i snapped the sway bar link was a bit of a dog on the road but the flex was improved. Will see if i can dig up an old photo.

There are 2 options you can go.
You can extend the factory disconnect or replace them with something superiors extended manual disconnects.
Either way you get the best of both worlds

threedogs
15th March 2015, 05:26 PM
As I mentioned in the PM Ill meet you at Airport West they have to have specials for their Grand opening.
I heard Easter but to me that doesnt make sense as a lot go away

jay see
15th March 2015, 06:12 PM
As I mentioned in the PM Ill meet you at Airport West they have to have specials for their Grand opening.
I heard Easter but to me tha eht doesnt make sense as a lot go away

Thanks John
Keep us all posted, we all like specials.

jay see
15th March 2015, 06:18 PM
If you go with a +2" shock. No.
If you go a +3 or more then yes.

This is another thing at can be done later if needed.

jay see
17th March 2015, 11:13 AM
I could do this later.

I like this idea of the extenderd because my last 4wd drive i snapped the sway bar link was a bit of a dog on the road but the flex was improved. Will see if i can dig up an old photo.

No Sway bar.

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Winnie
17th March 2015, 11:35 AM
as I always travel light I would like a slight down hill look.

Why is that? How often do you tow your camper?
Wouldn't you rather the car sitting straight when you're not towing (probably 90% of the time) compared to the odd time when you will tow?

gaddy
17th March 2015, 12:18 PM
To me suspension is a personal choice , what one person thinks is best for a given task , may not suit everybody , I tow most weekends and heavy at that , personally I don't like airbags or spacers , so for me the hardest springs I could get ( kings for me ) , which by the way aren't as harsh as people think , but my family's safety when loaded is paramount ! By the same token most of my 4wding is beach , or dirt roads ,
We all have different needs , which means many different set ups :)

jay see
17th March 2015, 12:34 PM
True. That's what makes it difficult, we are spoiled for choice.

threedogs
17th March 2015, 12:42 PM
Why is that? How often do you tow your camper?
Wouldn't you rather the car sitting straight when you're not towing (probably 90% of the time) compared to the odd time when you will tow?

as soon as any weight is added when going away it;ll make the rear go down even 70kg of camping gear fridge included.
Dont take the camper much as it was only so the other guys could come, so thought stuff them one has a 2wd ute they can fill that up and go.
plus no one chipped in for fuel
Down hill look is ever so slight if any, but its level with the camper on

jay see
20th March 2015, 08:15 AM
Well after much reading and speaking to people in the know, I've decided on a 2" flexi lift from suspension stuff. http://www.suspensionstuff.com.au/2-flexy-coil-kit-for-gq-gu-nissan-patrol.html
I think this will suit me fine, as I mainly use the patrol as a daily with some bush track work. I'm enjoying the more technical pick your line stuff and the occasional camping trip.
My only decision is on the shocks. Will call the guys there to discuss which spring rate and shock will work best for my needs.
Anybody used oztec ?
There is a 40mm adjustable TD as well is that up to the job or is it too small.
What do you guys think of the kit?

SonOf
20th March 2015, 10:30 AM
I do pretty much what you do in your patrol and I fitted Lovell HD springs (I carry drawes and also a fair weight in feed for livestock often) and Lovell Gas Legend shocks. So far I have no issues and the shocks come with a 70,000km/3 year warranty. The ride is smooth and handling is great, not too hard on the bumpy stuff either. All up the springs & shocks cost around $800 plus fitting which was naff all.

Prior I had OME in my ZD30 and again no issues with good ride etc.

big_fletch
20th March 2015, 12:36 PM
Hey mate I run the suspension stuff 2" flexi lift in my patrol Wagon. I went with the procomp shocks as they are a very soft shock which didn't worry me as I am still running a rear sway bar. The ride is excellent and I have had many people comment on how smooth it is. Even with the sway bar on I still get a huge amount of flex.
My mate runs the oztec shocks on his patrol and he also loves them

jay see
20th March 2015, 02:43 PM
Fletch, do you run caster correction bushes? The kit comes with them but I've always heard that on a 2" lift its not needed and I changed mine last year.

If anyone is interested this kit is on sale for $1399 ATM.

jay see
20th March 2015, 03:12 PM
How much will an adjustable drag link help

threedogs
20th March 2015, 04:26 PM
@ JC the TJM opening is about the financial new year so june 30th around there, going tomorrow to confirm

big_fletch
20th March 2015, 05:14 PM
Fletch, do you run caster correction bushes? The kit comes with them but I've always heard that on a 2" lift its not needed and I changed mine last year.

If anyone is interested this kit is on sale for $1399 ATM.

Hey mate yes I did put the castor correction in, just made the car drive nicer down the road. Without them was still fine just a little bit more touchy on the steering

jay see
20th March 2015, 05:16 PM
I can't wait till then, I spend it on other stuff. Having said that I'm sure that there will be other goodies that I want.
I've booked the snorkel install for next week.

Patrol'n
22nd March 2015, 10:06 AM
G'day mate, I have a 2" lift, tough dog springs and foam cell shocks, I haven't fitted castor correction bushes, nor an adjustable drag link, car drives beaut as is. I also haven't fitted extended sway bar links, although I'm considering the disconnects and would get the 2" extended if I do. I had it doing some decent stuff at mundaring powerlines yesterday and it worked really well. It's also proved itself to me with decent beach and coastal track work.

TroutNut
22nd March 2015, 10:32 AM
The first owner of my GQ stuck in oldman emus with no lift, but I reckon it's about an inch higher than the factory springs, bilstein shocks, don't know what model, but they're a pretty hard ride on the dirt, and a set of bull bags mounted inside the rear coils. This makes a good solution for pulling the caravan without squashing the back end much, the bull bags only need a few psi in them to make the back end stiff.