About to put the hard earned on a LOKKA... any 'issues' people have had ?

[Agronaught]

I'm about to drop the hard earned on a LOKKA for the front of my 2003 Y61 TB48 to fit myself.

I've read a lot of good reviews, my only concern would be if it caused problems in 2WD on the black stuff and I assume this isn't an issue as the hubs 'should' be unlocked and no drive to the front diff.

I know I need to replace the current auto locking hubs with manual jobbies, any suggestions on the type for these ?

Cheers
jason.

[nissannewby]

Genuine manual hubs mate. Every day of the week. These will fit across the range and the utes still come with them. Places like patrolapart also do kits for the conversion I believe.

[Stropp]

just be carefull who you buy from, im sure a few have had dramas with having paid for them and then having to wait for something like 3 mths to get them.

[Agronaught]

I was planning on buying from 4wd systems directly.

Just trying to source some oem manual hubs at the moment.

[04OFF]

I was planning on buying from 4wd systems directly.
.

That wont help you, i bought mine directly and waited a month, then it was rusty so then waited another week for a replacement.

Suggest you buy from USA if you want one quicker.





Just trying to source some oem manual hubs at the moment.

Dont buy manual hubs, just convert your autos to work as manual , takes about 15min, you just need to use your wheelbrace instead of your fingers, but the conversion is "free" and easy.

I keep a second wheel brace under the drivers seat just for hubs, easy when airing up/down.

[Agronaught]

Dont buy manual hubs, just convert your autos to work as manual , takes about 15min, you just need to use your wheelbrace instead of your fingers, but the conversion is "free" and easy.

I keep a second wheel brace under the drivers seat just for hubs, easy when airing up/down.


I didn't realise I could ;)

Thanks for that, I'm happy to save money. It also reduces the possibility of some nugget plating with your hubs.

[growler2058]

On stalk book people have been mentioning that the service has greatly improved. I got mine within a week (live in SA)
Probably the single best mod i did on my ol GQ

[93patrol]

I run a Spartan front lokka and can't fault it at all. If the wait times for lokka are a bit may try spartan

[the evil twin]

snip...

I keep a second wheel brace under the drivers seat just for hubs, easy when airing up/down.

I used to do similar but for just a few bucks you can buy a tube spanner at Bunnings, Masters or wherever.
Heaps easier to store than a wheel brace.
I used to keep keep it in the drivers door pocket with my tyre deflator and pressure gauge.

A lot of people don't realise you still need to lock "auto" hubs when they are 'wheeling anyway.
My rule of thumb was if the terrain needed a tyre pressure adjustment then it also needed the hubs in "lock".

[04OFF]

ET, i actually used a palm size (cut down) wheel brace for just that, very easy to store, somehow i lost it before i used it 3 times, no idea how, but have never lost the full size brace, so perhaps the size is good for my usage :biggrin:

Agree, people dont know how to use auto hubs correctly, then the hubs break, and they brand them as weak and crap, when it was actually user error all along.

[Agronaught]

Thanks gents, lots of good advice ;)

I'm sorting out the list of what I need as there will need to be some tool purchases etc. All good stuff that will help in maintaining the patrol. Unless I can find some time off between trips it may be a couple of months before I get to do the install.

Cheers
J.

[megatexture]

ET, i actually used a palm size (cut down) wheel brace for just that, very easy to store, somehow i lost it before i used it 3 times, no idea how, but have never lost the full size brace, so perhaps the size is good for my usage :biggrin:

Agree, people dont know how to use auto hubs correctly, then the hubs break, and they brand them as weak and crap, when it was actually user error all along.


Never Locked mine yet or broke it lol, just stays in auto but its converted to manual now after the transfer repair but no doubt I'll forget to lock them on my first trip out

[04OFF]

Troy, when I first got my car I drove heaps of stuff and never locked them, and never had a problem until one day out at scenic rim when I got stuck on a muddy hill, the noise I got out of one hub was like nothing id heard before (or ever want to hear again), it was then explained to me about locking them in, im still using the same hubs, but remember it only takes one incident to smash one.

[Rumcajs]

Beware that dealing with 4WD Systems will be one unpleasant experience so if you insist on auto locker consider other vendors.
Waiting times will be nothing what they promise you. I waited 5 months on so called 2 weeks promise, indeed I have forgotten/given up about it in that time. Oh, and the price has changed too original quoted price was no longer valid so I had to fork out full price.

As far as I'm concerned they're dodgy outfit. I bought several items and I will never ever shop there again. Some of my mates bought other things and it was poor workmanship etc.

Lokka is atrocious in the sand or really soft stuff, the understeer is shocking. Having front end locked solid doesn't give much in the way of steering it will be heavy, and you'll think twice putting in 4WD mode on fast dirt roads.

If I could go back I'd get E-locker.

Cheers

[cgm]

Hey, I think I have the Spartan locker kicking around somewhere. I bought it in Saudi (imported it from the US). I left before I got around to fitting it. If you're interested in it PM me. I'll have a look and see if I can find it, probably still in one of the boxes out in the shed.

I'm probably about to chase a Lokka for my Jackaroo. I had a dig around and there aren't too many options for me, so it looks like I have to try 4WD Systems and see how it goes. I had one from them before and had no issues, so hopefully it will be fine. Ask Bloody Aussie about their service. Ha Ha.

[Irish]

Wouldn't buy from 4wd systems, shit service, shit communication, they will lie about delivery times. I ordered one for BloodyAussie and was left hanging for months. Only communication was me ringing them for updates. They were quick enough to charge my card though.

BA's patience eventually ran out and he told em to jog on.

[Bloodyaussie]

Bloody $£%$%£%% &%%$%$ ££"!"££$ **&**(* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[growler2058]

Lokka is atrocious in the sand or really soft stuff, the understeer is shocking. Having front end locked solid doesn't give much in the way of steering it will be heavy, and you'll think twice putting in 4WD mode on fast dirt roads. If I could go back I'd get E-locker. Cheers

I don't agree with you on this. I had absolutely no issues in soft sand or dirt roads was able to drive just as fast. Slight change of style was required but bugger all

[growler2058]

Bloody $£%$%£%% &%%$%$ ££"!"££$ **&**(* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soft C0ck!!!!

[cgm]

I don't agree with you on this. I had absolutely no issues in soft sand or dirt roads was able to drive just as fast. Slight change of style was required but bugger all

Yeah I had no issues with driving with the Lokka in either. You soon get used to it. Sounds like my only two options for getting a locker in the Jack will both get me worked up with lack of service!

I think they are a good price/performance option, but will get me down if I put an order in and am waiting 2 weeks later, let alone many months.

[Agronaught]

Agreed here.

I do like the idea of the e-locker but the ~$2000 install cost ex gst is more than I'm willing to pay. I am considering buying a diff centre so I can put the unmodified diff back in if need be, although that adds $$$ to the job as well.

J.

[the evil twin]

My last 4 Patrols have been Lokka, Lokka, ARB air and currently Spartan.
Was going to go for an Elocker this time but couldn't justify it in the end.

I have had no issues with 4WD systems but then again I had no issues with either of my Lokka's either so apart from getting them I have had no further dealings.

The first time you get caught with a mechanical locker (Lokka, Detroit, Spartan et al) not differentiating on a corner it scares the crap out of you.
If you master the technique of driving with one and never have it happen that is cool.
If you don't and you do have the car shotgun straight thru a corner then I can guarantee you will master the technique very quickly thereafter :-)

It's only a matter of learning to feel if you are on a surface where the Lokka may not have sufficient wheel torque to overcome the mechansim and a quick bit of modulated throttle work and it's all good again.
Wet Clay is the prime example, soft powdery sand can do it as well

[Agronaught]

OK, that last one scared me as I do a lot of driving down skinny dirt roads hanging on the edge of a cliff... If that happens it could easily be a one way trip...

[04OFF]

Once I adjusted my driving style (as ET described above), I found the car was actually "better" in the sand with a Lokka ,I do a lot of beach (in fact the last 3 weekends in a row ive driven up the beach) , anyway, you certainly cant drive on sand the same as when you have a open centre.

[04OFF]

OK, that last one scared me as I do a lot of driving down skinny dirt roads hanging on the edge of a cliff... If that happens it could easily be a one way trip...


Dry dirt wont be a problem, wet clay on a incline could be, but if you are really concerned in these stuations, just "unlock" one front hub. :thumbup:

[Agronaught]

I'll likely go ahead just need to order the part, if t takes a couple of months it will be a bummer but not the end of the world. Adding the front locker will reduce the risks of getting stuck if/when I'm alone and just following that random track to see where it goes so it will be worth it.

@cgm - I'll send a pm.

[the evil twin]

Dry dirt wont be a problem, wet clay on a incline could be, but if you are really concerned in these stuations, just "unlock" one front hub. :thumbup:

X 2 ^^^^

Where necessary, which is pretty rare admittedly, I unlock the drivers side hub.
One, because I am a lazy bugger and it is the closest but mainly because the pax side has a longer axle so is a bit more forgiving in transferring torque to/from the CV.

That doesn't work on Auto Hubs obviously.
If you are using Auto Hubs on a mechanical locker over any sort of gnarly terrain or for extended periods then you should absolutely have the Hubs in "Locked" and not "Auto".
They should be in "Locked" anyway regardless of whether you have a locker or not but a lot of people take the risk and don't bother or aren't aware of the correct operation of Auto hubs.

If a hub momentarily unlocks because you roll back or whatever mid challenge and power comes back on sharply then it risks damaging the hub or the CV.

Bottom line is I quite like mechanical lockers and if the user is aware how they work and the forces in play they are very effective.

[Agronaught]

I wonder what delivery is like from Amazon...

http://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Locker-Nissan-Patrol-heavy-dyt/dp/B00AWE56XU

[Maxhead]

I wonder what delivery is like from Amazon...

http://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Locker-Nissan-Patrol-heavy-dyt/dp/B00AWE56XU

I buy stuff from them all the time and it's usually about a week to 10 days. My Fiskars axe arrived in under a week...:)

[93patrol]

That's a great price for the spartan

[Agronaught]

While they state there is no need to remove the diff to install the spartan, this possibly doesn't apply as you would need to remove the retaining pin on the rod holding the smaller gears in place.

Anybody know if this is doable without removing the diff centre ?

Cheers

[nissannewby]

The diff carrier has to be removed from the vehicle. However the differential can remain in the carrier.

[Rumcajs]

I don't know about Spartan but if you need to remove the centre pin to take spider gears out you have to drop crown wheel which means the diff centre must come out of the carrier.

Patrol diffs are not like HD truck ones where you can remove/halve the centre without touching the crown wheel.

Even though 4WD System is advertising this job doable in your back yard it ain't if you don't have required equipment. Also plenty of things can go wrong as you have to remove hubs, swivel joints and axles half shafts, the potentials for efups are everywhere not to mention the dodgy way they're advising to keep bearing settings unchanged.

For start crown wheel bolts are FT. You will not able to clamp it in the vice and use breaker bar to crack them off and do them up again . Pneumatic impact wrench (rattle gun) to get them off is advisable.

To tighten them up in the vice is not advised, normally a press is used to apply clamping force onto carrier and than tension wrench them up.

If you haven't done job like this before I suggest at best to remove the carrier yourself to save on cost and hand over to diff specialist/mechanic to do the rest, it is still big job enough. Plan ahead so while it is all apart, repack the hub bearings or change them, replace hub seals, and other additional maintenance while it is all in bits.

Regards

[04OFF]

I wonder what delivery is like from Amazon...

http://www.amazon.com/Spartan-Locker-Nissan-Patrol-heavy-dyt/dp/B00AWE56XU


Everything ive got off Amazon (mostly from USA) has been legit and on time, id jump at it.





here, I dug this up for ya......


http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/showthread.php?6997-Crusty-Auto-Lokka-!&highlight=auto+lokka

[megatexture]

So would you buy one again Steve? Or try another supplier/ brand..

[04OFF]

So would you buy one again Steve? Or try another supplier/ brand..

I would "own" one again as the product is great and I love it.

EDIT, I self moderated what I wrote, and deleted it out of respect for Andy and the Mods, due to the "slanging" nature of my post, I am above this (only just, lol)



But in direct answer Troy, NO, I would try another supplier :smiley_thumbs_up:

[Agronaught]

Thanks Rumcajs, I'm not rushing in to this one until I know exactly what's needed. If i do down the lokka/spartan path I'll pick up a diff centre to be setup and have a good relationship with my mechanic for the rest. I may yet fork out the dosh for an e-locker install or similar, no harm learning everything I can in the meantime.

Your advice is appreciated as this isn't a small job and there is a heck of a lot that can go wrong.

Cheers
Jason.

[cgm]

Jason, seems easier to post pics here than a PM, so pics are here.

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When it arrived in the original Spartan box it was in a huge box and floating around. Since it has been sitting in the shed, you can see that small bit of surface rust just on the pin. Assume that will polish off and not be an issue? Anyway, that's what a Spartan looks like.

[Dales300exc]

I ordered 2 from 4wd systems the other week and they arrived in less than a week. Works well.

[04OFF]

Yeh , its not a "postage" problem, the second one I was sent (to replace the crusty one) arrived in just a week, obviously If you are lucky they have stock whe you order.

The problem seems to be they don't check (or tell you) the "actual" availability before taking your money, and so must have little idea when you will get your parts, then just string you along every week when you ring to ask where it is, I was not told the full story about the parts id paid for in full, again im not going into the conversations I had, and im not out to bag em, they may well have changed owners since I purchased mine, so I can only go from my own personal experience, im sure many people will have a happy one, im just saying, please ,just don't book a workshop or pull your diff apart in anticipation of it turning up :p

[Rumcajs]

That's right, 4WD Systems buy their Chinese ( might be untrue) locker knock offs in bulk once they have their minimum order bank full. I'm guessing 100 units at the time. So if you are lucky and obtain yours after the shipment was delivered than you are going to get it quick. Otherwise they'll happily lie and give you run around and they will not tell the straight answer.

If you ever visit their joint you'll feel like unwelcomed intruder. I stood at the counter twice fo 20 minutes or more without being acknowledged by the staff present or owner himself who walked past several times while giving me the looks which I could only interpret as: ' look the loser who drives Nissan.' They're Toyo shop first. The owner's arrogant atitude is well know by the 4WD industry insiders.

Absolutely shocking customers service was my experience. Maybe they've changed, for me "once bitten .....

Regards

[04OFF]

That's right, 4WD Systems buy their Chinese Spartan locker knock offs in bulk once they have their minimum order bank full. So if you are lucky and obtain yours after the shipment was delivered than you are going to get it quick. Otherwise they'll happily lie and give you run around and they will not tell the straight answer.



Thanks,that is exactly what I suspected was going on !

[cgm]

That's right, 4WD Systems buy their Chinese Spartan locker knock offs in bulk ...

Sorry, Rumcajs, but do you have anything to support this statement about China? From all the stories it is clear their service has been crap and will tell any tale but still not send. However, I could not find anywhere that they buy them from China? Their US website also states: "LOKKA has been manufactured in Australia since the late 1990’s ...". (http://lokka.com/site/faq#22) Maybe that story is like some of their other stories, but I would love to have some evidence before we continue to spread a story.

The main reason I pick up on this is that when I was chasing installation quotes for my diffs the other day, while chatting with one of the guys and asking his opinion he was making loose statements about all the main players making in china and included ARB Air Locker in that discussion. But we went into the factory and saw them being made in Melbourne. They also explained their offshore manufacturing was in Thailand and Taiwan for some things, but nothing from China. So, it is easy for this to spread, but where things are manufactured in Aus I'd like to see they at least get credit for that and the jobs, good or bad of the rest of the company.

Not meaning to have a go at you directly, would just like to know if you know something we can't see from elsewhere?

[Rumcajs]

Sorry, Rumcajs, but do you have anything to support this statement about China? From all the stories it is clear their service has been crap and will tell any tale but still not send. However, I could not find anywhere that they buy them from China? Their US website also states: "LOKKA has been manufactured in Australia since the late 1990’s ...". (http://lokka.com/site/faq#22) Maybe that story is like some of their other stories, but I would love to have some evidence before we continue to spread a story.

The main reason I pick up on this is that when I was chasing installation quotes for my diffs the other day, while chatting with one of the guys and asking his opinion he was making loose statements about all the main players making in china and included ARB Air Locker in that discussion. But we went into the factory and saw them being made in Melbourne. They also explained their offshore manufacturing was in Thailand and Taiwan for some things, but nothing from China. So, it is easy for this to spread, but where things are manufactured in Aus I'd like to see they at least get credit for that and the jobs, good or bad of the rest of the company.

Not meaning to have a go at you directly, would just like to know if you know something we can't see from elsewhere?

How about I muddy the waters a little bit, I know 4WD industry insider and he told me the Chinese story when I was waiting 5 months for mine. He also had other unpleasant things to say about the outfit. I don't have actual shipping manifests or sworn testimony from the staff etc if that's what you are asking. So yeah conjecture and all, I'm happy to withdraw the statement if you wish.

However when you go to actual 4WD Systems website there is no such statement there about their LOKKA being made in Australia.

I found out about this little gem ==> Aussie locker made in USA (http://www.aussielocker.com/)

and this interesting post on US forum which actually makes sense.


The Lokka people used to make the Aussie in Australia for TorqMasters. Then Lokka shipped production to China and began using Chinese sourced metal. The number of failures skyrocketed. TorqMasters canned Lokka and moved production to the U.S. using U.S. metal. They also refined the design making it smoother.

Lokka continues to sell the previous Chinese produced design under their own label.

Source: Lockright vs Spartan vs Aussie vs Lokka (http://comancheclub.com/topic/42191-lock-right-vs-spartan-vs-aussie-vs-lokka/)
Its probably just another conjecture but Torqmaster and Aussie locker are real and the link you've provided points back to them too.

What is interesting the information on US website is omitted on Australian website especially "Australian made since...."

When you look at Aussie locker™ images it looks identical to LOKKA unit.

I didn't get anything on the box saying Australian made or sourced or whatever origin either and one would think that 4WD Systems people would be using that as selling feature, nope just a white 4WD System logo marked cardboard box and when you see what is inside you go like how the F is this worth $500 +. Finish and material overall does give a feeling the product being made to low price.

I pass that joint daily on my commute to work and if they're really making that stuff in there it must be a crowded space.

I bought plenty of Aussie made stuff before, usually plastered over with those facts unlike Chinese, Taiwanese or Thai sourced 4WD products flogged on by local companies and hidden of such facts.

Anyway, as I dig more, these vicious lies about honest Aussie company being smeared.... its all made in Australia they're just embarrassed to admit it. Must be the first. The full story is not known. Lockright, LOKKA, Aussie Locker seems awfully similar not sure who copied who.

[cgm]

Thanks. I think that fills out your thoughts and leaves it in a more balanced way.

It is clear they've pissed off a lot of people.

I bought one when I was in Saudi and it couldn't have been smoother. Emailed me back promptly a couple of times, gave me some advice and sent me some spacers they said were commonly needed on my model. Sent it the day after I transferred the money. Obviously they did have stock at that time and I had no issues.

[cgm]

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/federal-court-finds-4wd-franchisor-misled-franchisees

Interesting topic for me as I have a Jackaroo and can't get any other auto locker and all other options are big dollars.

[Agronaught]

Interesting amount of dislike for the aussie vendor here. I'm going to proceed with a locker install, however from the above I will opt for an alternate model and will find a pro to do the installation for me.

Thanks All
Cheers.

[neixian]

Be careful if install in the front. While make big turn in the track, CV can break and then break the pins of lokka.

[Irish]

Interesting amount of dislike for the aussie vendor here. I'm going to proceed with a locker install, however from the above I will opt for an alternate model and will find a pro to do the installation for me.

Thanks All
Cheers.

The fact of whether the vendor is or isn't "Aussie" is beside the point. Pi$$ poor service is pi$$ poor service.

IF they are sourcing their product from overseas but selling it as "made in Australia" thats even more serious...

The Federal court/ACCC threatened to fine Coles millions over foreign made bread being passed off as local, wonder how they'd react to a safety item being misrepresented.

[Agronaught]

I for one refuse to go to businesses with poor management. And in this case there a lot of alternatives.

[Rumcajs]

Hmh, surprise surprise....


Justice Selway declared that 4WD Systems Pty Ltd had breached section 52 of the Trade Practices Act in that:

it had misled a franchisee in relation to the time it would take to supply goods;
it had misled a different franchisee as to the time it would take to supply goods, and as to the quality of those goods; and
it had misled another franchisee as to quality of goods.

He also declared the company had breached section 53(eb) by making a false representation about the place of origin of a four wheel drive differential lock.

Federal court finds 4wd franchisor misled franchisees (https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/federal-court-finds-4wd-franchisor-misled-franchisees)

[cgm]

Hmh, surprise surprise....

Thought you'd like that one. :)

[Clunk]

Hmh, surprise surprise....



Federal court finds 4wd franchisor misled franchisees (https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/federal-court-finds-4wd-franchisor-misled-franchisees)


although things may or may not have changed since this was done in 2003................ only saying ;)

[megatexture]

Why not send them a email and ask if they are made in aus and if now where they are made. Other than ignoring the email I can't see how they can avoid the answer and with the accc on there back I can't imagine they would try and lie again lol

[cgm]

Well, all this negative stuff got the better of me. :) Reckon I would probably have done the Spartan, but couldn't get one for my truck. Sort of surprised at myself really as I had the Lokka in Saudi and had no issues at all, but I just didn't want to order and wait and wonder.

I put a deposit down and ordered an ELocker this morning (for my Jackaroo). Local Opposite Lock gave me a good price, just came back and said they had some 15% off or something. Was $150 cheaper than the other price I got. Gonna get it installed by a local driveline guy. I have two diff centres to lower my gearing (which is what started this expensive spending spree) and he'll install both diff centres and put the locker in for the price the others wanted to just install the front locker.

Can't wait to give it a go, but mostly looking forward to getting some normal gearing back. Putting bigger tyres (stock is 29.5 inch, the 265/75/16 are about 31.6. 31.6/29.5=1.071) just killed my low gears, nothing is low. Also on the highway towing anything is just a struggle with any sort of hill or wind in 5th. It has 4.3:1 now, will go to 4.55:1 (4.55/4.3=1.058). Won't quite bring it back to normal, but will be close.

[Agronaught]

I'm probably going a similar route I'm afraid...

[cgm]

I'm probably going a similar route I'm afraid...

I just finally got to that point, "why not it's only money!!". They look good and you see many more positive comments about them than negative, so should be good I think. The main thing that scares me is if the truck gets written off the accessories would be easily worth twice the price insurance would give me for the truck (which would be 2/5 of nothing).

You know you want to ... :)

[Agronaught]

And you can always make an offer to the insurance company on the wreck. In my case the engine has only done 25000km... Brand spanking new crate motor at a good price, not a rebuild. Possible as the tb48 motor was used in a lot of kit, forklifts etc.

There's half the insurance money right there.

[cgm]

Digging out this old thread for an update. Had to be patient with my installer. Got the locker early December, but he was busy leading up to Christmas and then didn't want to install until all the parts suppliers came back. Took it in a week and a half back, but he got a few other jobs that overran, etc. etc. Took it home again and then put it back in yesterday.

So, got it back today. :) Everything mechanical is in and the wiring for the Elocker is run back up to the top of the engine bay. He didn't want to muck around with the dash and putting the switch in the "best" spot, so we agreed I'd do that bit myself. Hopefully knock that over on the weekend. Reminder, this is for my Jackaroo and I started because I wanted to change diff ratios. Partly I'll blame this thread and Agronaught (gotta blame someone :) ) that I then upgraded my intentions and went with the Elocker. Final outcome:

- 2 x diff centres from the wreckers = $660
- Elocker (from Opposite Lock) on a 20% off special = $1400
- Install fees = $518
Total = $2578

The install included new carrier bearings where the locker went in, one pinion seal, a new set of clamps for the CV boots, oil for both diffs, install of locker to front diff and install of both front and rear diffs to the truck. I'm pretty wrapped with the install price and everything looks good so far. He complained about how horrible pulling the front diff with the IFS was :) Given that, I didn't think he gave me a penalty for it! Originally he quoted me "probably not more than $600". For those in Ballarat area, it was Michael at Driveline Services. Didn't know him before I found him on Google.

Can definitely notice the improvement from the ratio change. Although the cost is probably more than half the price of the truck, it's still in reasonable condition, so reckon it was worth it.

Will get it going on the weekend and then need to find a couple of hills for some testing. Cuppa and I did a small local drive in Enfield a couple of weeks back, might head back to one of those hills.

Happy Camper! :)

[outback]

The main thing that scares me is if the truck gets written off the accessories would be easily worth twice the price insurance would give me for the truck (which would be 2/5 of nothing).

You know you want to ... :)


And you can always make an offer to the insurance company on the wreck. In my case the engine has only done 25000km... Brand spanking new crate motor at a good price, not a rebuild. Possible as the tb48 motor was used in a lot of kit, forklifts etc.

There's half the insurance money right there.

cmg: First nice to see you went for the e-locker..

On the other note:
Insurance:

Check on how the Insurance Company does your vehicle insurance.

Mine has an agreed price, which gets devalued each year, funnily enough.

Gave them a ring and started with the value of all accs. Pushed the agreed value way beyond their current value.
They then took full details and changed the value and naturally the insurance price. At least it reflects closer to what its worth to fully replace now.

Check your vehicle. The Insurance companies tend to base their quotes on the base vehicle and its age. Just add a bull bar and tow bar changes that base value.

[cgm]

cmg: First nice to see you went for the e-locker..

On the other note:
Insurance:

Check on how the Insurance Company does your vehicle insurance.

Mine has an agreed price, which gets devalued each year, funnily enough.

Gave them a ring and started with the value of all accs. Pushed the agreed value way beyond their current value.
They then took full details and changed the value and naturally the insurance price. At least it reflects closer to what its worth to fully replace now.

Check your vehicle. The Insurance companies tend to base their quotes on the base vehicle and its age. Just add a bull bar and tow bar changes that base value.

It is currently with RACV and I had a chat with them a few weeks back and it is clear it is not covered for much in terms of the extras that would add value to it. I need to do some ringing around to see what my options are.

[macca]

About to put the hard earned on a LOKKA... any 'issues' people have had ?

Only issue is I don't get to use it enough, these Nissans are purdy damn good.

[Cuppa]

Will get it going on the weekend and then need to find a couple of hills for some testing. Cuppa and I did a small local drive in Enfield a couple of weeks back, might head back to one of those hills.

Happy Camper! :)

Great stuff. Reckon you might be up for the harder routes on some of those hills now, & will be interested if you can now get up that last hill without wheelspin.

[Cuppa]

It is currently with RACV and I had a chat with them a few weeks back and it is clear it is not covered for much in terms of the extras that would add value to it. I need to do some ringing around to see what my options are.

I think the mob I insured the Tvan through (CGU, through Arthur J Gallagher) will insure all road legal modifications up to a maximum of the value of the base vehicle. e.g. they will cover a $20k vehicle with up to $20k worth of mods for up to $40k on & off road.

[threedogs]

I put a lock-rite lokka in my Troopy 350 V8 from a mob in SA.
destroyed my gearbox over a period of time, found if you slammed
the gear changes the tail will step out like a torque whip,
It now resides in the rear of a 60s 1h diesel power to burn LOL ha
Next locker I'm fitting will be one I control, wheel spinning up hill if there
is no other option will see your steering harder to controll.
So its a Pro-locker for me or an E-locker
,BTW I had mine in the rear diff I would never put on in the front

[cgm]

I think the mob I insured the Tvan through (CGU, through Arthur J Gallagher) will insure all road legal modifications up to a maximum of the value of the base vehicle. e.g. they will cover a $20k vehicle with up to $20k worth of mods for up to $40k on & off road.

Yep Cuppa, I'll chase them up. They inherited my policy for our house (someone bought someone, who bought someone, who they bought). I'll ask them to chase up some options for me. Plan to call Shannon's as well. Will probably get onto it next week.

Once I get the power connected, I'll let you know and we can check those same tracks.