New GU a bit of a slug ?

[old steve]

A question to the learnard , just picked up my new GU , i brought an auto , aim getting too old to bother changing gears , heres the question , i had been loaned a 2007 3 ltr turbo diesel auto which i used for a week , and it went like a cut cat , i was very impressed , now I've picked up my newby, and it seems like a slug , now i know its new and all , but i wouldn't have expected in this modern age to require much running in ??? but to say its a slug is an under statement , you put your foot to the floor and nothing happens , it slowly builds revs and eventually does something , this is after screaming through a hand full of gears , no i haven't asked the stealer yet , i don't want to look like a dick , is there something aim doing wrong ? or is there really some sort of break in period , all in all aim pretty dissapointed

[Hodge]

Steve. If it's a brand spanker like you say it is, and if it is as bad as you describe it, then dealer is your best bet. New car shouldn't be sluggish like that.
And you should not be looking like a dick if you walk in there mate, it's your hard earned $$$ you handed over for a product they possibly didn't deliver. I'd walk in and begin asking questions.

As for a mechanical answer. It all sounds like turbo lag to me?? Hope someone more experienced can think of something else.

[old steve]

Well it is yes , i jumped out of a D-40 manual , and seriously this would have been to the pub and back and would have skulled 3 beers before i even arrived in the GU , i hope its some run in issue or a mechanical thing , or aim not going to be a happy camper

[old steve]

And yes , i would agree , it hardly seems like the turbo is working , you could hear it on the D-40 , but you can hardly hear it on this , and i know what its like when the turbo dies , as it done it on the D-40 and this feels like that all the time , although it is working , i think , i can hear a little , but something is not right , it can't be this bad , or they would never sell one

[paulyg]

Don't take any crap from the dealer, they will probably try and tell some load of rubbish.

[kevin07]

where are you at

[old steve]

Iam in upwey vic

[graeme1969]

Gday.

To get a comparison why not go into another dealer and take the same model for a test drive.

[threedogs]

Go out to Brewick Nissan, sounds like a dirty MAF to me.
but see if its bringing up any faults first, Maf you can clean yourself

A GU is not sluggish by any means

[growler2058]

Surely the MAF wouldn't be gunked up on a brand newy??

[threedogs]

Could be its only new to him isn't it,,,, its not a 2014 model no reference to year
or could simply be a loose hose[Vacuum] somewhere

[Hodge]

Could be its only new to him isn't it its not a 2014 model
or could simply be a loose hose[Vacuum] somewhere

From what I understood in his initial post, it's a brand spanker? MAF is unlikely, but not impossible. Worth a look. But if it is a brand new car, definitely take it to dealer.

[nissannewby]

Could be its only new to him isn't it its not a 2014 model
or could simply be a loose hose[Vacuum] somewhere

Its new if you read the first post. The running in quote kind of gives it away.

The crd is much better in regards to mafs and turbo controll than the di.

[old steve]

Its brand new , done a total of 175 ks , and i had a 2007 auto loaner for a week which went like a cut cat , took it for a drive today in won't even hold 100 ks on the monash freeway with cruise control on , drops back to 80 ish and the cruise cuts out

[old steve]

it will be going back to the dealer in the morning , but i thought i would ask here first

[nissannewby]

Its brand new , done a total of 175 ks , and i had a 2007 auto loaner for a week which went like a cut cat , took it for a drive today in won't even hold 100 ks on the monash freeway with cruise control on , drops back to 80 ish and the cruise cuts out

Take it back mate that is woeful it should do that easily. Something is definitely not right. Possibly something has been missed in the dealers pre delivery.

[old steve]

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pic of the new " slug " hope they can fix it in the morning

[threedogs]

Pretty when they are new,
yeah hopefully its only a minor thing that wont put you off

[old steve]

And the cupie doll and teady bear goes to the bloke who said vacuume line to the turbo , it had split just where it plugs in , goes like a cut cat now , very happy , and got the 2 inch lift today as well

[Hodge]

And the cupie doll and teady bear goes to the bloke who said vaccume line to the turbo , it had split just where it plugs in

Thanks for the update mate. Glad it was something simple.

[growler2058]

Thankfully something simple
Still bit shitty being split already

[old steve]

Tell me , i was crapping lol but very happy now and the rig is pretty much as i want it for the moment , will do a little more through the year , but basically setting it up for a long service trip

[Beni C]

I had the same problem with mine, easy fix.

They tend to go better with the Snorkel fitted to, which I see yours has!

[Neil the Nissan]

Ive got a 2011 model auto and they are slugs mate.

[old steve]

well seems to go pretty well now , so all happy

[threedogs]

Good to ear it was only something simple as suggested.

[Smoothrun]

phew, Ive just done 4900 ks since new in mine (manual) and really happy with the performance, I can feel it getting more power as the weeks go on. fyi i was getn 12.6 litres at 2000ks, and at 4000 im now averaging 11.8 litres. Yep more power less fuel. Id be interested to see how yours does so keep us posted if you dont mind.

just quickly

I had a vibration under the dash, told them straight away but advised them to leave it with me as i was puttin a new stereo and speakers in, removed the glove box, stereo, flhs pillar cover, it got louder so i was onto it, drove down hume upside down tryin to locate it, missus recons it was the nissan snorkel, i said air vent, had it back to Nissan twice, Found the problem, the snorkel inner tube inside the guard was mounted 1mm from it, Just as well i was right about the snorkel ey. you know the story....

just thought id mention it, just incase, pretty sure ARB prob did yours too

Congrats and enjoy old steve.

[old steve]

Howdy Smoothrun , no my snorkel is genuine Nissan , no noises or rattles , very happy now that's sorted out and it goes well , using around 13.5 litres per hundred at the moment , but only done 1300 ks , I have one small issue , which is a wheel alignment , but the bloody suspension place should have done it when I got the springs fitted , well lesson learned there , but all in all iam very happy ill keep intouch as its good to know people with the same age newbies

cheers Steve

[old steve]

smoothfun , heres a few pics

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[Hodge]

White is the best color. I should have got color coded bar too. Looks the business mate.

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[mudski]

Howdy Smoothrun , no my snorkel is genuine Nissan , no noises or rattles , very happy now that's sorted out and it goes well , using around 13.5 litres per hundred at the moment , but only done 1300 ks , I have one small issue , which is a wheel alignment , but the bloody suspension place should have done it when I got the springs fitted , well lesson learned there , but all in all iam very happy ill keep intouch as its good to know people with the same age newbies

cheers Steve
Have you got the dread 80k wobbles now Steve. That comes free with every lift in a Patrol... :) Nice looking rig too mate.

[Smoothrun]

Gotta be quick at work. My snorkel was genuine too. My bbar was an orig nissan when i bought the rig. Yours looks heaps tougher. 2 x things were done at arb. Workmanship was dissapointing. But ill see how i go personally in future. Just filled up at 4999 ks so ill tell ya me ks average shortly. Very nice unit mate. Looks great

Cheers
Dave

[old steve]

Thanks Hodge , iam pretty happy with it , few more things to re fit from the old nag , mostly electronic stuff and the winch

[old steve]

Hi Mudski, no wobbles at all ,although i decided to fit 265x70x17 tires instead of the 285's most people fit or larger , maybe thats it , don't know , having said that , i would probably got the 285's if i had done the lift first , happy so far , and thanks , getting there , although the outside won't change much now,

ohhh i had adjustable caster bushes fitted with the lift if that makes any diff

[old steve]

Thanks Dave , yes ARB stuff is a bit hit n miss these days , quality has gone to the dogs , chasing the almighty dollar

[Smoothrun]

just checked fuel ratio and back up to 12.42, i remember doing the hume hwy a few weeks back so its pretty much the same as it was 2 months ago.

cheers Dave

pm me anytime you wanna compare or check anything mate ok, ill do same

[Dr Gary]

My GU turned into a real dog, until I found the vacuum line to the turbo lifter was split--could be yours is simply off. Easy check

[old steve]

All fixed now Dr Gary and very happy

[old steve]

just checked fuel ratio and back up to 12.42, i remember doing the hume hwy a few weeks back so its pretty much the same as it was 2 months ago.

cheers Dave

pm me anytime you wanna compare or check anything mate ok, ill do same

Yes will do and ditto

[mudski]

Hi Mudski, no wobbles at all ,although i decided to fit 265x70x17 tires instead of the 285's most people fit or larger , maybe thats it , don't know , having said that , i would probably got the 285's if i had done the lift first , happy so far , and thanks , getting there , although the outside won't change much now,

ohhh i had adjustable caster bushes fitted with the lift if that makes any diff

What size lift you get?

[old steve]

What size lift you get?

was supposed to be 2 inch , but it worked out about 2.5

[Neil the Nissan]

your economy sounds good for an auto, i think i am closer to 14.5l/100km (highway ks).

[Smoothrun]

Just to clear things up and with appologies. mines a manual not auto, My bad :icon_bonk:

Just installed a basic dual battery system without all the bla bla bla, love the concept and gives me most options i was after.

Heres a pic of my unit as bought.

48669

[old steve]

Nice rig Smooth, the silver was my second choice , but I've had a few in the past , and found the white don't show up the marks as bad , i took the piraña management system off my last one , and will re fit it on this when i get the time , just in the process of installing the UHF cb and hf radios , brought an outback roof console to fir the icom uhf , but haven't fitted it yet , and the HF will go in the back close to the antenna , i got the kmar wheel mount antenna bracket / light / wheel spacer , ( all good stuff , but cost a bomb ) all getting done slowly

[Smoothrun]

I wanted white mate but the cook wanted silver,I bought a GME TX3540S so i can mount the UHF under the dash and use the controls on the handpiece, 48727, I took out the stereo and installed the latest release Pioneer Avic unit,48728. Replaced the speakers with 360watt Pioneers and and AMP also, Im a bit over it but its a very nice sound even without the AMP installed yet. Can I ask what the Kaymar setup was worth and does it give you plenty or reversing light, looks like it does.

Next up is wiring up my amp, Fuse bank under dash, Anderson plug for camper trailer underneath and ARB compressor, and once I complete making my drawers ill wire up everything as per normal stuff Merits,usb,,Inverter etc and finish off the Cameras for the back, one for reversing the other for camper trailer. Just not sure which setup ill go for the rear light and spare wheel, ill be getting 33s with my 2" lift so need to make sure ill be right. The fact yours has the HF aerial and looks great id certainly consider one. (at least it leaves my options open re getting a HF)

Patience is the key mate and its killin me but as things do happen its good knowing you did ya research and didnt just jump in for the sake of it, money well saved. and you appreciate it more.

Keep us posted mate, Ive gotta sort me phone pics onto me pc as Im running pc, mob and tablet, Ill also set up a file in dropbox and send ya the link if ya want, not sure of how you do your pics but my filing is everywhere at the moment and I dont have time to sort it all out, too busy doing research on me Rig.

Cheers Mate

[Gavshe]

Hi Mudski, no wobbles at all ,although i decided to fit 265x70x17 tires instead of the 285's most people fit or larger , maybe thats it , don't know , having said that , i would probably got the 285's if i had done the lift first , happy so far , and thanks , getting there , although the outside won't change much now,

ohhh i had adjustable caster bushes fitted with the lift if that makes any diff

I spoke with a few owners with 2" lift kits and also suppliers, surprisingly most owners were not offered offset/adjustable caster bushes or a wheel alignment and most suppliers did not even mention them to me. Being from mechanical and wheel align back ground, I talked to my local alignment specialist whom confirmed the need of the adjustable caster bushes after a lift, especially if higher than 2". He gets many owners of various makes asking for help after a lift. The most common complaint is unstable at speed and during turns plus wobbles

[old steve]

Hi Gavshe, yes , through the years I've used many brands on different models of 4x4 , tough dog , ultimate , arb , efs etc etc ,I've had plenty of issues too , also through the years I've used pedders on cars , but not had success on ifs 4x4 's with them , i have given them another chance , with the GU being older tech, and the fact they have revamped their 4x4 range , and the kit I've fitted i cant speak highly enough of , the beauty of the pedders product is your dealing with a company that specialises in suspension , they don't build bull bars , or sell snatch straps , and their stores are all over Australia , and if you have an issue you simply drive in and have it fixed , not have to have to make an appointment for 3 weeks time , and its fixed or replaced on the spot , not the we will have to send it back to the manafactures so i'am pretty happy with it , and they were smart enough to recomend the caster bushes straight up with no crap , the lift worked out to 60mm or 2.4 inches

[old steve]

Hi Smoothe , yes unfortunately the icom ic400 pro is not remote-able so I've had to put in the console , would love to do the sound system like you as well , but the $$$ are now running short lol , the duel battery and anderson / merit stuff will also have to wait , but its still 2 years until the trip , the hf antenna is on the rear on the kaymar stuff , which cost $ 400 ish bucks thats for the wheel spacer / light and pole / and the antenna mount , but its all high quality and worth it in my opinion , yes pc's can be a pain with pics , but all my stuff is apple , i work in the industry and get sick of repairing pc's , and i use photo bucket for all the pic hosting , your rig is looking good mate

[Gavshe]

Hi Gavshe, yes , through the years I've used many brands on different models of 4x4 , tough dog , ultimate , arb , efs etc etc ,I've had plenty of issues too , also through the years I've used pedders on cars , but not had success on ifs 4x4 's with them , i have given them another chance , with the GU being older tech, and the fact they have revamped their 4x4 range , and the kit I've fitted i cant speak highly enough of , the beauty of the pedders product is your dealing with a company that specialises in suspension , they don't build bull bars , or sell snatch straps , and their stores are all over Australia , and if you have an issue you simply drive in and have it fixed , not have to have to make an appointment for 3 weeks time , and its fixed or replaced on the spot , not the we will have to send it back to the manafactures so i'am pretty happy with it , and they were smart enough to recomend the caster bushes straight up with no crap , the lift worked out to 60mm or 2.4 inches

Hi Old Steve
I agree, Pedders and Fulcrum were first on my list when looking at lift kits. I have settled on Fulcrum for the same reason you chose Pedders, they are suspension specialists