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boggy2006
17th February 2011, 08:39 PM
hi,
thought it might be interesting if people posted some photos of their Patrol's axle articulation (I need to get out more!) and maybe some measurements to see what can be achieved with the different types of mods out there. I'll do some of mine for starters, nothing too special here, just a 2" lift and 2" longer shocks. I'm getting about 20cm difference across the front and 40cm at the rear (I moved up the gravel as far as possible until the wheels span, rear sway disconnect and front connected).
Therefore I have ample evidence to convince the missus to release the funds for a front diff lock or some Superflex arms....I do don't I ??!! LOL
nowoolies
17th February 2011, 08:40 PM
last photo looks like you have lost the right hand rear wheel
lol
have to try mine out on the weekend
gec
17th February 2011, 08:44 PM
No idea of the measurements but I think she does OK
Front
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k452/BeniMan_08/2008_08230062.jpg
Back
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k452/BeniMan_08/2008_11080002.jpg
All with sway bars still connected
YNOT
17th February 2011, 08:53 PM
Snake racing mega lift springs and shocks, 2Dextreme drop arms, rear sway bar connected with extended links, front sway bar removed. 30cm front travel, 1/2 metre rear travel measured from guard to wheel rim.
http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx224/tonyh01/100_0580.jpg
http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx224/tonyh01/100_0578Medium-1.jpg
The same suspension is fitted to my current GU but with drop boxes fitted and front sway bar connected.
Tony
Finly Owner
17th February 2011, 09:43 PM
Snake racing mega lift springs and shocks, 2Dextreme drop arms, rear sway bar connected with extended links, front sway bar removed. 30cm front travel, 1/2 metre rear travel measured from guard to wheel rim.
http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx224/tonyh01/100_0580.jpg
http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx224/tonyh01/100_0578Medium-1.jpg
The same suspension is fitted to my current GU but with drop boxes fitted and front sway bar connected.
Tony
That's extreme
Clunk
17th February 2011, 11:11 PM
Thats some mad flexing goin on there guys, thanks for the photos
Bigrig
18th February 2011, 08:05 AM
No idea of the measurements but I think she does OK
Front
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k452/BeniMan_08/2008_08230062.jpg
Back
http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k452/BeniMan_08/2008_11080002.jpg
All with sway bars still connected
Love your rig!!
Bigrig
18th February 2011, 08:11 AM
Mine - 4" dobinson coils, 3" EFS shocks - swaybars connected. Can't drop off the rear swaybar as the upper control arm hits the fuel tank, but tested with front disconnected and get about another 50-70mm in the front end. Sorta, kinda happy with it, but would love to get more as always ...
http://184.72.239.143/mu/3aaa2afc-9544-7b54.jpg
http://184.72.239.143/mu/3aaa2afc-9561-f977.jpg
http://184.72.239.143/mu/3aaa2afc-957e-982a.jpg
Will have more from next weekend no doubt!!!
YNOT
18th February 2011, 08:18 AM
Number plates Scott.
Tony
Bigrig
18th February 2011, 08:22 AM
Number plates Scott.
Tony
What the? Didn't think you could see them - just had another gander and I can only make out the first three numbers in the second shot??
Finly Owner
18th February 2011, 09:56 PM
Thought i had better flex some muscle here
Finly Owner
18th February 2011, 10:05 PM
not bad for standard leaf???????
boggy2006
18th February 2011, 10:41 PM
some great flexin' there, keep'em coming!
YNOT
18th February 2011, 10:42 PM
not bad for standard leaf???????
Factory leaf springs were never the best for flex so that's about as good as you could expect.
Tony
Clunk
18th February 2011, 10:46 PM
not bad for standard leaf???????
not bad mate, not bad at all
Finly Owner
18th February 2011, 10:50 PM
Factory leaf springs were never the best for flex so that's about as good as you could expect.
Tony
I was P!ssan myself with laughter puting this up, you do realise?
Down powerlines today just to find possie to do this.
Gee I do some stupid stuff just to feel like I'm 4wding
MudRunnerTD
18th February 2011, 10:52 PM
3" OME Comp springs and shocks, Drop Boxes, rear sway bar connected, front sway bar removed. Love it. Perfect setup for me.
http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/DSC_5056_2.jpg?t=1294144494
http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/62125_436108629925_544284925_5373034_6153796_n.jpg ?t=1294144494
http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/GU%20IV/DSC_5048_2.jpg?t=1294144494
Bigrig
18th February 2011, 10:53 PM
Any others? Great thread - love seeing the trucks flex up ... c'mon lads, you must have 1 photo?? If not, straight to the nearest wheelchair ramp near your joint in the morning and up you go, a few happy snaps and you're on your way - no harm, no foul!!! LOL
DISCLAIMER: do not climb wheelchair ramps in your patrols you clowns!!!! If ever a time I was joking, it was about that.
But I'm sure you'd find a few at the local retirement village if you were to look .... ROFLMFAO!!!!!
Clunk
18th February 2011, 10:58 PM
Any others? Great thread - love seeing the trucks flex up ... c'mon lads, you must have 1 photo?? If not, straight to the nearest wheelchair ramp near your joint in the morning and up you go, a few happy snaps and you're on your way - no harm, no foul!!! LOL
DISCLAIMER: do not climb wheelchair ramps in your patrols you clowns!!!! If ever a time I was joking, it was about that.
But I'm sure you'd find a few at the local retirement village if you were to look .... ROFLMFAO!!!!!
Might have something floating around on the other puter, if not will have to go out and get some................ not sure how much flex you get out of stock springs and shocks.................... any excuse to get back off road again lmao
Bigrig
18th February 2011, 11:04 PM
any excuse to get back off road again lmao
Too right!!!
Clunk
18th February 2011, 11:06 PM
reckon I might be able to get away with it too seeing as her in doors is out on the terps tonight
aiKzo6
7th March 2011, 09:33 PM
Pedders shocks, standard springs, standard swaybars...haha.. Should probably get some gear in soon!
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/aiKzo6/29082010123.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/aiKzo6/29082010122.jpg
Finly Owner
7th March 2011, 09:48 PM
Pedders shocks, standard springs, standard swaybars...haha.. Should probably get some gear in soon!
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/aiKzo6/29082010123.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/aiKzo6/29082010122.jpg
Should probably hide plates in photos to stop the unwanted attention both law enforcement and the low life type.
Tim
aiKzo6
7th March 2011, 09:55 PM
Thanks Tim. I dont have any editing software on this laptop that im on and theres dozens of other photos on the net of my cars anyway. Cheers for the headsup though ;)
Finly Owner
7th March 2011, 09:59 PM
No probs, but you can do it in paint if you need.
Your choice my man.
Tim
Clunk
7th March 2011, 11:48 PM
Thanks Tim. I dont have any editing software on this laptop that im on and theres dozens of other photos on the net of my cars anyway. Cheers for the headsup though ;)
some nice photos there mate, love it.... mud 'n' flex all in one shot lol
aiKzo6
8th March 2011, 04:26 PM
haha..cheers mate. actually got stuck around there. tyres clogged up and not enough clearance!
Ben-e-boy
10th March 2011, 06:00 PM
Here is mine with the old 2'inch lift, the shocks extend to about 600mm she goes alright
big_fletch
10th March 2011, 06:08 PM
Pedders shocks, standard springs, standard swaybars...haha.. Should probably get some gear in soon!
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/aiKzo6/29082010123.jpg
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/aiKzo6/29082010122.jpg
That's a awesome looking troll mate, looks tough as in the pics
Bigrig
10th March 2011, 06:09 PM
Here's mine at the workshop today - trying to work out the best approach for fixing the upper control arms hitting the fuel tank (reshape the tank, SE bent control arm ... new suspension! I wish!! LOL)
2830
Clunk
10th March 2011, 06:11 PM
just gotta love those flex shots, nice one lads
Ben-e-boy
10th March 2011, 06:12 PM
Here's mine at the workshop today - trying to work out the best approach for fixing the upper control arms hitting the fuel tank (reshape the tank, SE bent control arm ... new suspension! I wish!! LOL)
2830
Bend it yourself!! I dare say that you would have a suitable hammer for the job lol
YNOT
10th March 2011, 06:26 PM
Here's mine at the workshop today - trying to work out the best approach for fixing the upper control arms hitting the fuel tank (reshape the tank, SE bent control arm ... new suspension! I wish!! LOL)
2830
Reshaping the tank does work (I had it done to my last GQ) but the S.E. bent upper arm has to be the easiest solution.
Tony
aiKzo6
10th March 2011, 07:25 PM
That's a awesome looking troll mate, looks tough as in the pics
Cheers fletch ;)
Here's mine at the workshop today - trying to work out the best approach for fixing the upper control arms hitting the fuel tank (reshape the tank, SE bent control arm ... new suspension! I wish!! LOL)
...i want a forklift! :p
Finly Owner
10th March 2011, 10:28 PM
Here is mine with the old 2'inch lift, the shocks extend to about 600mm she goes alright
Now that's awesome, well done
Bigrig
10th March 2011, 10:30 PM
Reshaping the tank does work (I had it done to my last GQ) but the S.E. bent upper arm has to be the easiest solution.
Tony
Agreed mate - too much stuffing around with the petrol tank!
Bigrig
10th March 2011, 10:32 PM
Bend it yourself!! I dare say that you would have a suitable hammer for the job lol
LOL!! Too right mate ... Might end up a bit short and shonky, but that's what DIY is all about ... isn't it?? LOL!!!
Ben-e-boy
11th March 2011, 05:07 PM
big rig if you want to try bending up an upper control arm I have the old ones (standard) I also have 3 lower control arms
YNOT
11th March 2011, 05:31 PM
The finished length of the bent arm needs to be the same length as a standard straight arm, bending a standard upper arm wont work, it will end up too short. Scott just needs to pull his finger out and order the part. If he orders it through Suspension Stuff it will save him a few hours driving.
Tony
Ben-e-boy
11th March 2011, 05:49 PM
The finished length of the bent arm needs to be the same length as a standard straight arm, bending a standard upper arm wont work, it will end up too short. Scott just needs to pull his finger out and order the part. If he orders it through Suspension Stuff it will save him a few hours driving.
Tony
Yes But you cut it , sleeve it and bend it
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 05:52 PM
The finished length of the bent arm needs to be the same length as a standard straight arm, bending a standard upper arm wont work, it will end up too short. Scott just needs to pull his finger out and order the part. If he orders it through Suspension Stuff it will save him a few hours driving.
Tony
Pull my finger out hey?? LOL .. best I get onto that then!!!
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 05:52 PM
Yes But you cut it , sleeve it and bend it
I'm just going to get one mate - one of those, "just get the standard" things ... thanks for the offer though!!
NissanGQ4.2
11th March 2011, 06:22 PM
Who really cares about "Axle Articulation" "Flex" whatever 1 shall call it. I don't care what lift is in and how much flex i might have, if i don't pick the right line I'm still likely to stuff up and get stuck on the same track that the standard patrol just nailed with ease. As some 1 said "DRIVE HARD OR GO HOME" *L*
YNOT
11th March 2011, 06:25 PM
Who really cares about "Axle Articulation" "Flex" whatever 1 shall call it. I don't care what lift is in and how much flex i might have, if i don't pick the right line I'm still likely to stuff up and get stuck on the same track that the standard patrol just nailed with ease. As some 1 said "DRIVE HARD OR GO HOME" *L*
Very true, a good driver in a standard car will likely get further than a standard driver in a good car.
Tony
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 06:36 PM
Very true, a good driver in a standard car will likely get further than a standard driver in a good car.
Tony
But a good driver in a good car will go further than both!! ;)
NissanGQ4.2
11th March 2011, 06:54 PM
Very true, a good driver in a standard car will likely get further than a standard driver in a good car.
Tony
Well I am a below standard driver in a standard patrol, but yeh still made it up some tracks when the modified 4x4 struggled up *L*
YNOT
11th March 2011, 07:01 PM
But a good driver in a good car will go further than both!! ;)
Correct.
Tony
NissanGQ4.2
11th March 2011, 07:36 PM
But a good driver in a good car will go further than both!! ;)
Depends on how drunk / hang over the good driver is *LMAO*
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 08:02 PM
Depends on how drunk / hang over the good driver is *LMAO*
Even further then!! Until he breaks it!!!
YNOT
11th March 2011, 08:04 PM
Someone else must have flex pics?
Tony
big_fletch
11th March 2011, 08:04 PM
Even further then!! Until he breaks it!!!
And then sit down at end of day with a stubble thinking about what a great day you had lol
big_fletch
11th March 2011, 08:06 PM
I should take some flex pics, haven't tested the flex yet with the new lift
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 08:19 PM
I should take some flex pics, haven't tested the flex yet with the new lift
Got a forklift?? LMFAO!!!
big_fletch
11th March 2011, 08:27 PM
Got a forklift?? LMFAO!!!
Haha actually yes I do at work.. I know what I'm doing tommorrow lol
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 08:30 PM
Haha actually yes I do at work.. I know what I'm doing tommorrow lol
Make sure you do a measurement with shocks, without shocks, with swaybar (with shocks on), without swaybars (with shocks on) ... bottom of wheel rim to the top edge of the arch. And some awsome shots to boot!!! LOL
big_fletch
11th March 2011, 08:36 PM
Make sure you do a measurement with shocks, without shocks, with swaybar (with shocks on), without swaybars (with shocks on) ... bottom of wheel rim to the top edge of the arch. And some awsome shots to boot!!! LOL
Sounds like a lot of work there Scott, but ill see what I can do though Haha.. Interesting to see the flex as it is atm, running no swaybars
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 08:41 PM
Sounds like a lot of work there Scott, but ill see what I can do though Haha..
Over a few coldies of course!!! LOL
NissanGQ4.2
11th March 2011, 08:41 PM
Someone else must have flex pics?
Tony
Does this count Tony???
Pic of my flex shot but having a bad day
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 08:44 PM
Does this count Tony???
Pic of my flex shot but having a bad day
LOL!!!! Classic ... but what's the story on that pointy thing in the front of the reg grundy's?? LMFAO!!!
big_fletch
11th March 2011, 08:45 PM
Over a few coldies of course!!! LOL
Haha of course mate, wouldn't wanna get de-hydrated now lol
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 08:48 PM
Haha of course mate, wouldn't wanna get de-hydrated now lol
Good lad!! LOL
Finly Owner
11th March 2011, 10:00 PM
Very true, a good driver in a standard car will likely get further than a standard driver in a good car.
Tony
Ah hah Me & Finly have it nailed then!!!!!!!!!!
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 11:13 PM
Ah hah Me & Finly have it nailed then!!!!!!!!!!
Repeat after me ... "good driver" ... LOL!!!
Finly Owner
11th March 2011, 11:19 PM
Repeat after me ... "good driver" ... LOL!!!
Don't judge me yet?!
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 11:20 PM
Don't judge me yet?!
Ok boss ... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt!! lol
Finly Owner
11th March 2011, 11:34 PM
Ok boss ... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt!! lol
For under this cloak of imbosilism is a "surprise act"
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 11:42 PM
For under this cloak of imbosilism is a "surprise act"
We look forward to seeing it in all it's glory mate.
Finly Owner
11th March 2011, 11:52 PM
Finishing track by sliding to last part on roof LOL touchwood that don't happen!
Bigrig
11th March 2011, 11:56 PM
Finishing track by sliding to last part on roof LOL touchwood that don't happen!
We'll make sure it won't happen.
madk1w1
12th March 2011, 07:18 AM
Here's a couple of the ute, need to do something with front end and longer shocks on rear,
only OME 2inch lift front sway bar now removed and factory disconnect to be fitted to rear
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/madk1w1/Leonora040.jpg
http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt44/madk1w1/Leonora039-1-1.jpg
big_fletch
12th March 2011, 11:56 AM
Thought i take some flex shots thismorning with the trusty forklift at work
3" lift with no swaybars
Bigrig
12th March 2011, 11:58 AM
Thought i take some flex shots thismorning with the trusty forklift at work
3" lift with no swaybars
Bloody lovely mate!!!
big_fletch
12th March 2011, 12:00 PM
I reckon the second pic looks tough as lol.. Fully extended from bottom of rim to top of guard was close to 1.1m.. I reckon that cant be to bad
Bigrig
12th March 2011, 12:01 PM
I reckon the second pic looks tough as lol.. Fully extended from bottom of rim to top of guard was close to 1.1m.. I reckon that cant be to bad
Agreed - looks awesome!!
NissanGQ4.2
12th March 2011, 12:12 PM
I reckon the second pic looks tough as lol.. Fully extended from bottom of rim to top of guard was close to 1.1m.. I reckon that cant be to bad
I reckon you should change ur user name 2 big-flex!, nice shots mate, I would be happy with that
Bigrig
12th March 2011, 12:15 PM
I reckon the second pic looks tough as lol.. Fully extended from bottom of rim to top of guard was close to 1.1m.. I reckon that cant be to bad
I was at 1035mm with the rear sway bar connected, and the GU's have larger arches, however for a 3" inch, that's awesome travel !!!
big_fletch
12th March 2011, 12:35 PM
I reckon you should change ur user name 2 big-flex!, nice shots mate, I would be happy with that
Haha yer maybe... i am actually looking at in the nearish future moving up to a 4 " lift with dropped arms or maybe even superflex arms..
Then combine that with 35's haha
big_fletch
12th March 2011, 12:36 PM
I was at 1035mm with the rear sway bar connected, and the GU's have larger arches, however for a 3" inch, that's awesome travel !!!
With swaybars thats not bad travel at all.. What about with no swaybars haha
NissanGQ4.2
12th March 2011, 12:46 PM
Haha yer maybe... i am actually looking at in the nearish future moving up to a 4 " lift with dropped arms or maybe even superflex arms..
Then combine that with 35's haha
I've just got back from looking at my 4inch lift............................. yep there still there sitting in the garage lookin very unhappy, maybe its just me that's unhappy lookin at them *L*
big_fletch
12th March 2011, 12:47 PM
I've just got back from looking at my 4inch lift............................. yep there still there sitting in the garage lookin very unhappy, maybe its just me that's unhappy lookin at them *L*
Haha i think your unhappy looking at them, why do you torment yourself so lol...
Any reason why not under the vehicle or just havent got around to it yet
Ben-e-boy
12th March 2011, 01:53 PM
Here is mine with the 4 inch lift and temporary shocks while the hoops are being made
big_fletch
12th March 2011, 01:58 PM
Awesome flex there mate, that's a damn good effort
Ben-e-boy
12th March 2011, 02:05 PM
Awesome flex there mate, that's a damn good effort
Cheers fletch
Thats what u get with superflex arms, superior long arm kit. the shock that are in there now suit a 6 inch lift I had the raise the bump stop on the rear 70mm
big_fletch
12th March 2011, 02:11 PM
Cheers fletch
Thats what u get with superflex arms, superior long arm kit. the shock that are in there now suit a 6 inch lift I had the raise the bump stop on the rear 70mm
Haha looks like I gotta spend some more money now, gotta get me some of those superflex arms
Ben-e-boy
12th March 2011, 02:12 PM
They are worth it
growler2058
12th March 2011, 03:10 PM
not max flex but the only shots of her flexin i got
aiKzo6
12th March 2011, 03:26 PM
Thought i take some flex shots thismorning with the trusty forklift at work
3" lift with no swaybars
Awesome shots mate!! Wicked flex!!
Sean
18th March 2011, 12:02 AM
great pics and nice rigs
Clunk
23rd March 2011, 02:16 AM
Ok finally found some of mine........ think she does alright seeing as she's all standard.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/clunk71/Flex.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/clunk71/flex2.jpg
Bob
23rd March 2011, 08:15 AM
Ok finally found some of mine........ think she does alright seeing as she's all standard.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/clunk71/Flex.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/clunk71/flex2.jpg
None of the Patrols I have had over the years have had a Lift and I managed to go most places in Victoria's High Country
Bigrig
23rd March 2011, 09:39 AM
None of the Patrols I have had over the years have had a Lift and I managed to go most places in Victoria's High Country
Agree with you Bob - learn to drive first and a standard box will take you a long way - lifts and lockers and such should be done once you get to the next stage of capability ... and then learn the vehicle all over again!! lol
Scotts
3rd April 2011, 06:03 PM
here is one of me dominating a dirt pile at home, ha ha its a 17 year old aftermarket leaf setup, maybe not too bad for what it is?
YNOT
3rd April 2011, 06:09 PM
Your front suspension travel is comparable to a coil sprung Patrol (that means it's pretty good for a leaf spring set up)
Tony
Bigrig
3rd April 2011, 06:11 PM
here is one of me dominating a dirt pile at home, ha ha its a 17 year old aftermarket leaf setup, maybe not too bad for what it is?
The front flexes alright mate - looks like a project in the making!!! LOL. Soooooo ... what would you like us to spend your money on first?? lmfao!!
growler2058
3rd April 2011, 06:13 PM
None of the Patrols I have had over the years have had a Lift and I managed to go most places in Victoria's High Country
Nice shots of yer troll strutting her stuff in standard trim mate
growler2058
3rd April 2011, 06:18 PM
here is one of me dominating a dirt pile at home, ha ha its a 17 year old aftermarket leaf setup, maybe not too bad for what it is?
No arthritis in the ol girl mate she's flexn well for 17 ye old setup
Scotts
3rd April 2011, 06:32 PM
ha ha at least your not knocking it too hard. actually looking at millweld snorkel and airbox seeing as the old man talked me out of a chassis swap.
Ben-e-boy
8th April 2011, 07:22 PM
Your front suspension travel is comparable to a coil sprung Patrol (that means it's pretty good for a leaf spring set up)
Tony
x2 That impressive flex in the front... some climax shackles and long travel shocks in the rear will give it 'coil spirng like' flex too.
Ben-e-boy
8th April 2011, 07:26 PM
here is some more of mine
Finly Owner
8th April 2011, 11:19 PM
Holey Crap!
gec
9th April 2011, 01:40 AM
Ok finally found some of mine........ think she does alright seeing as she's all standard.
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/clunk71/Flex.jpg
http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/clunk71/flex2.jpg
That guy in the passenger seat in the second photo has a funny lookin head
Bigrig
9th April 2011, 06:44 AM
here is some more of mine
As per Tim's comments - holy crap indeed!!!! lol
I've seen it first hand, but those tyres with that flex just looks BIG!!
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