EFI to Diesel conversion.

[Bloodyaussie]

As many of you know I am going ahead with a diesel conversion (yes I should have done this in the first place) and the pressure is off a bit as far as time goes as I have paid the reg on the Bluebird today and no longer need to tow.

There are many things I have little knowledge of when it comes to this conversion..

I am told I need the TD engine mounts but is there any other mods??

I want to turbo it and will need another system so whats needed there??

I am told there are 5 or 6 wires that the TD needs to run what are they and how do they come into play with an efi car??

I know there are many other things but I thought I would get the thinking cap rolling........

I will also be selling me efi engine very soon.

[AB]

If you want a cheap turbo to start of with and upgrade later there are currently a few ht18s on eBay in vic with all the lines ready to go. One has a small front mount too.

[nissannewby]

Park it next to someone's who is td42 (Winnie, AB, MR etc).

Engine mounts will I believe. You will want to replace these anyway as it's gonna be far easier now while your doing the swap.

Td starter is 3 bolts so you need a bell housing. I'm not 100% on this but you can also get away with drilling the third hole on the tv bell housing.

Tacho is different.

It might be a little more than 5 or 6. You will need wires for the following- fuel shut off solenoid, glow plugs, oil pressure switch, coolant temp sensor, starter, alternator and engine speed sensor.

As for the turbo mate what do you want from it. You need to go for a drive in some people's TD's and this will help.

[Bloodyaussie]

Turbo I have been told to invest in a good manifold and worry about a better turbo later... I knew about the bell housing and will have a td one to use.

Because I want to go turbo what should I be looking at as far as exhaust goes???

Everyone has offered there rides for a test drive but Winnie lives miles away Andy has parked his while doing his mod and Matfew also live about 40min away and I need to try and make time to get out there???

Woot woot !!!!!

[Family4x4]

The rolled option is looking to be the best, then pull out the loom,dash......

[Maxhead]

Good luck Jonno! I'm sure it will work out sweet mate.

[Ben-e-boy]

You can come for a drive in mine......

[Bloodyaussie]

So getting a dash is better than trying to use mine??

Also with those turbos posted what am I looking for?? you say including lines..

[Bloodyaussie]

Benny I wish mate.......... and Krisso I have your love driving me so all will be well....

[Family4x4]

So getting a dash is better than trying to use mine??

Also with those turbos posted what am I looking for?? you say including lines..

I Don't think the looms are the same for all clusters.

[NissanGQ4.2]

I will also be selling me efi engine very soon.

Remember me when this happens :)

Sorry I cant help with info as I've never done it and am far from mechanically minded..................

Good luck with it all

[AB]

So getting a dash is better than trying to use mine??

Also with those turbos posted what am I looking for?? you say including lines..

Some may have the gu lines (water and oil lines) cross over pipes, exhaust manifold etc) which we can make work with your set up. You're better off sending Matty some links to the ones you find and let him advise mate.

Needs to have minimum shaft play and I'm sure a few other things that matty would hopefully sort you out.

I'm sure Rossco wouldn't mind you going for a spin in his mate.

[Bloodyaussie]

They just have the gu lines which we can make work with your set up. You're better off sending Matty some links to the ones you find and let him advise mate.

Needs to have minimum shaft play and I'm sure a few other things that matty would hopefully sort you out.

I'm sure Rossco wouldn't mind you going for a spin in his mate.

Ha haaa Rossco I forgot about that mild mannered loon !!!!

What about the exhaust guy ?????????????????????????????????????????? because I know Matty and Lucas love my ???????????????????????????????

[AB]

Ha haaa Rossco I forgot about that mild mannered loon !!!!

What about the exhaust guy ?????????????????????????????????????????? because I know Matty and Lucas love my ???????????????????????????????

3" straight through and dump pipe with bung for pyro.

[Bloodyaussie]

Is this something I need... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Manta-Pro-3-Cast-Dump-Pipe-TD42-Patrol-/231283460256?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d99188a0&_uhb=1

[AB]

Is this something I need... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Manta-Pro-3-Cast-Dump-Pipe-TD42-Patrol-/231283460256?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d99188a0&_uhb=1

That's it, but I'm not sure on prices nor brands though.

Bugger just checked eBay and the two I saw a few days ago are gone. Only one left is that one with the safari intercooler.

[Winnie]

Anything happening with the engine we were looking at?

[Lightspeed]

Ok where do I start LOL
I have just done the TB42 carby to the TD42 after market turbo engine swap myself so here goes
You will need a TD42 bell housing, TD42 starter, TD42 power steering pump would be better than trying to relocate yours as the petrol one is on the other side to the diesel one. Engine mounts could be either 2 hole or 4 hole depending on what year yours is, I use custom mounts much stronger specially if your running a turbo set up. I think it's easier to use the petrol wiring harness that you have if it's the same as my 91 carby one. You can get rid of the fuel canister. You will need a TD42 alternator with the vacuum pump on the rear & a vacuum canister. You have to extend you alternator wires over to the other side of the engine as well as the temp censer wire. You starter wires will be ok to use as is. Your oil pressure wires will be ok as is. You can set up your Glo plugs through a Solanoid that you can buy from any electrical shop ( this is easy) when the time comes PM me and I will show you. You can get a tachometer cluster & fit that or just pull the taco out of a diesel cluster & put it in your petrol cluster like I did. You need a taco censer which should come with your diesel motor which has two wires that needs to be wired to which ever cluster you decide to use. ( when you get around to doing this part let me know & I will help you with it ) PM me if you need anything explained . I used my coil wire for the diesel pump solinoid because it comes on when the ignition is turned on and is off when the ignition is off. Its all worth it in the end though more grunt less fuel less to go rong out bush. Cheers Grant.

[Bloodyaussie]

Do I have to get the TD airbox ???? is it possible to us mine??

Also what about this?? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-patrol-t28-dump-Pipe-TD42-/321462028532?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad8a148f4&_uhb=1

[nissannewby]

Do I have to get the TD airbox ???? is it possible to us mine??

Also what about this?? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-patrol-t28-dump-Pipe-TD42-/321462028532?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad8a148f4&_uhb=1

The first dump you linked is probably one of the better ones you can get for the factory turbo as it's cast. Don't look at dumps until you have decided on your turbo.

Also the vac pump alternator thing will be dependant on the model of engine you get.

[Bloodyaussie]

Well then Matty as far as budget Turbos go what is the pick??

I think I will start out as suggested and get a good manifold but as I mentioned to you in the privacy of my bedroom my budget is only so high at the moment.

Keeping an eye on ebay and fartface for any deals..

[nissannewby]

Well then Matty as far as budget Turbos go what is the pick??

I think I will start out as suggested and get a good manifold but as I mentioned to you in the privacy of my bedroom my budget is only so high at the moment.

Keeping an eye on ebay and fartface for any deals..

I know it might not be high but a DTS kit would be a good addition. It will cost about 3k but this has everything you require and I do mean everything including a complete exhaust so there is no hunting around for anything etc. if that's not your cup of tea then track down a standard gu setup and fit it.
As for manifolds I would highly recommend DTS followed by denco.

[nissannewby]

Well then Matty as far as budget Turbos go what is the pick??

I think I will start out as suggested and get a good manifold but as I mentioned to you in the privacy of my bedroom my budget is only so high at the moment.

Keeping an eye on ebay and fartface for any deals..

Is that the privacy in which you were crying in passion :p.

[Ben-e-boy]

I have a dts turbo on the shelf.

[Bloodyaussie]

I have a dts turbo on the shelf.

Benny why the hell do you keep doing this???? you hurt my head.. oh and thanks Matty what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors!!!!

[nissannewby]

Benny why the hell do you keep doing this???? you hurt my head.. oh and thanks Matty what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors!!!!

Oh wow an actual statement.

[Ben-e-boy]

Benny why the hell do you keep doing this???? you hurt my head.. oh and thanks Matty what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors!!!!

I am a bit unsure on the condition of the compressor wheel, I need to get it inspected and then I want to modify it a bit.

[Bloodyaussie]

I am a bit unsure on the condition of the compressor wheel, I need to get it inspected and then I want to modify it a bit.

See thats what I mean... you are a strange cruel young man!!! you love it dont you.

[Lightspeed]

Do I have to get the TD airbox ???? is it possible to us mine??

Also what about this?? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-patrol-t28-dump-Pipe-TD42-/321462028532?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ad8a148f4&_uhb=1

The ZD30 air box will do you for now, It depends on what turbo you go for & how much air flow you will need. I went for the UFI 18g turbo low mount with DC6 pump & cross country intercooler with 3" mandrel bent Exhurst. I went for the TD42 silver top engine with GU turbo head. You will need a pump with the boost compensator valve on the top also if going turbo.

[nissannewby]

The ZD30 air box will do you for now, It depends on what turbo you go for & how much air flow you will need. I went for the UFI 18g turbo low mount with DC6 pump & cross country intercooler with 3" mandrel bent Exhurst. I went for the TD42 silver top engine with GU turbo head. You will need a pump with the boost compensator valve on the top also if going turbo.

Not particularly. If he runs a very mild setup like the DTS or a ht18 he can easily get away with the NA pump. It will be a benefit yes if he feels he can afford it it ends up with a compensated pump.

Your setup is a little more expensive than what bloodyaussie is chasing.

[Ben-e-boy]

See thats what I mean... you are a strange cruel young man!!! you love it dont you.

Yeah, especially when I have a diesel power steering pump, a Zd30 airbox, dts crossover pipe, 3 td42 cranks, td42t block and cam, silver top block and flywheel all on the shelf.

[Lightspeed]

Not particularly. If he runs a very mild setup like the DTS or a ht18 he can easily get away with the NA pump. It will be a benefit yes if he feels he can afford it it ends up with a compensated pump.

Your setup is a little more expensive than what bloodyaussie is chasing.

He is better off saving his coin because no mater which way he goes unless he buys a complete TD42T and is happy with that it never works out cheap LOL

[Family4x4]

Not particularly. If he runs a very mild setup like the DTS or a ht18 he can easily get away with the NA pump. It will be a benefit yes if he feels he can afford it it ends up with a compensated pump.

Your setup is a little more expensive than what bloodyaussie is chasing.

With out the compensated pump won't it nullify any fuel savings as you are just putting more diesel through all the time?

[Maxhead]

ZD30 airbox?? Is there anything he can use from his tb42 engine???

[Ben-e-boy]

With out the compensated pump won't it nullify any fuel savings as you are just putting more diesel through all the time?

Depends on the tune really

[Winnie]

ZD30 airbox?? Is there anything he can use from his tb42 engine???

Yes this is the question johnny has asked... I have never seen it done so don't think you could use the TB airbox... Not enough room.
Hey johnny boy, with this TD conversion you will be able to put a proper battery under the bonnet as an aux

[Lightspeed]

ZD30 airbox?? Is there anything he can use from his tb42 engine???

I couldn't use anything from my engine except if I wanted to modify the bell housing or the power steering pump but it was easier to get TD42 ones. You also need the Diesel radiator & hoses & different heater hoses & clutch fan.

[Lightspeed]

With out the compensated pump won't it nullify any fuel savings as you are just putting more diesel through all the time?

I would go with the compensated pump because if you want to run descent boost it allows more fuel for the engine & you can run a better tune.

[nissannewby]

With out the compensated pump won't it nullify any fuel savings as you are just putting more diesel through all the time?

Not really with an NA pump they can only really supply so much fuel and even with a standard gu turbo they it will be just enough.

[nissannewby]

He is better off saving his coin because no mater which way he goes unless he buys a complete TD42T and is happy with that it never works out cheap LOL

No but at the moment he has a very limited budget and needs advice accordingly. Trust me if he wanted a td with the sweetest drive ability and ball tearing torque I would be giving him advice that wouldn't leave him change from 20k. Or I would tell him not to bother and duramax it :).

[Family4x4]

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/capalaba/engine-engine-parts-transmission/turbo-of-a-td42-patrol/1051743658

pretty cheap depending on condition.

*edit* read it wrong thought inlet manifold was included.

[Bloodyaussie]

Good stuff guys I love a bit of back and forth... now to the death..!!!

The fuel pick up in the main tank , what does that look like? yes I know look up the manual.

Also the pump supplied to me from Patrolapart from the aux tank is a low pressure pump is this ok for use??

Fuel lines is another big one????

[Winnie]

This is the sender
http://www.patrolapart.com.au/product/fuel-system/nissan-patrol-gq-genuine-fuel-sender-unit

[nissannewby]

Do you know the pressure and flow rate if said pump? The diesels don't have a pump but people to fit small transfer pumps between the main tank and injector pump.

Fuel lines should all be very similar as you should already have one supply and a return to your tank.

[Bloodyaussie]

Winnie I think I have one of those in the garage so happy days as Daz would say..

Matty I do have 2 lines running and just wonder why everyone I have spoken to have said "You will need the fuel lines"... is this assuming I have a carb model and not efi???

The pump I have for the aux is an inline pump that sits outside of the tank and transfers to the main tank.... would it be better to change to a lock off set up and either pump from one or the other???

[Winnie]

Winnie I think I have one of those in the garage so happy days as Daz would say..

Matty I do have 2 lines running and just wonder why everyone I have spoken to have said "You will need the fuel lines"... is this assuming I have a carb model and not efi???

The pump I have for the aux is an inline pump that sits outside of the tank and transfers to the main tank.... would it be better to change to a lock off set up and either pump from one or the other???

What you have now is the same setup AB and I did with our sub tanks and they work fine.

[Lightspeed]

No but at the moment he has a very limited budget and needs advice accordingly. Trust me if he wanted a td with the sweetest drive ability and ball tearing torque I would be giving him advice that wouldn't leave him change from 20k. Or I would tell him not to bother and duramax it :).

I shouldn't have bothered giving advice in the first place, I have just been through what he wants to do so thought he needed help but looks like he doesn't. I was talking to him by the way.

[Bloodyaussie]

I shouldn't have bothered giving advice in the first place, I have just been through what he wants to do so thought he needed help but looks like he doesn't. I was talking to him by the way.

Ok mate this is a thread to help me out not get into tiffs.... I appreciate all advice and it is all for the common good... Matty has spoken with me on the phone about my conversion and knows my budget and situation with my finances so has a little more insight in this department.

So please stay the course and remember its me that is asking for advice and help......

There is some advice from people that I know full well about but do not say "I already know that" I just take it all on board and use what I need.. so please be nice and kiss and make up and do not stop with your input.

[growler2058]

Put in a Lokka cock!

[nissannewby]

I shouldn't have bothered giving advice in the first place, I have just been through what he wants to do so thought he needed help but looks like he doesn't. I was talking to him by the way.

If that's the way you feel mate by all means. I am just trying to keep this in perspective with the op's budget. He basically wants to do the whole conversion for around the money you have spent just on your pump and turbo.

[yabby]

Take the Motor out of this and put your Motor in and then sell it to recover a lot of your costs

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/laurieton/cars-vans-utes/nissan-patrol-dx-4-2-diesel-reduced-to-5155/1046424468

[Lightspeed]

If that's the way you feel mate by all means. I am just trying to keep this in perspective with the op's budget. He basically wants to do the whole conversion for around the money you have spent just on your pump and turbo.

OK sorry for the blunt response , but there was no where in this post talking about a tight budget when I posted my info.

[Bloodyaussie]

OK sorry for the blunt response , but there was no where in this post talking about a tight budget when I posted my info.

Yeah sorry mate I just assume everyone knows my position in recent times with all that has happened this year.

I would like to buy a car like that above but I do not have the full budget as yet as some is still coming in.

[Bloodyaussie]

Whats the difference in injectors??

This mob are made locally??? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-DIESEL-FUEL-INJECTORS-NISSAN-PATROL-TD42-/360976520102?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item540be093a6&_uhb=1

Or http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271372796881?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Whats to look for???

[Family4x4]

Whats the difference in injectors??

This mob are made locally??? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-DIESEL-FUEL-INJECTORS-NISSAN-PATROL-TD42-/360976520102?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item540be093a6&_uhb=1

Or http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271372796881?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Whats to look for???

You want Zexel nozzles.

[Bloodyaussie]

Many have told me to use Winnies rig as something to aspire to but think at this stage that is well out of my budget but Winnie put it into a realistic target of aim towards AB's rig and I think he is right....

[nissannewby]

The first link looks better. Injectors and injector pumps I believe you are better off using a shop not eBay. Try diesel tec. They should be around the 400 mark for a exchange set.

[AB]

Many have told me to use Winnies rig as something to aspire to but think at this stage that is well out of my budget but Winnie put it into a realistic target of aim towards AB's rig and I think he is right....

I'm sorry to say this princess but slow down turbo....get it turbo...funny guy!

Lets get the engine in as is and running...the rest will come later.

Unless there are things needed to do the transplant just get it in mate.

[nissannewby]

I'm sorry to say this princess but slow down turbo....get it turbo...funny guy!

Lets get the engine in as is and running...the rest will come later.

Unless there are things needed to do the transplant just get it in mate.

Yeah I agree. Get it to turn key then worry about those sorts of things. You gotta get an engine yet lol

[Drewboyaus]

I tagged him in a FB post where a dude in QLD is selling motor and gearbox only.....

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Bloodyaussie]

I tagged him in a FB post where a dude in QLD is selling motor and gearbox only.....

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

I tagged you in sleazy sluts but you have not responded???

Got an offer of $750 for my mower but in a couple of months I could ask $1400 and get it easy.... hmmm?

[Family4x4]

I tagged you in sleazy sluts but you have not responded???

Got an offer of $750 for my mower but in a couple of months I could ask $1400 and get it easy.... hmmm?

Hold off on the mower,

[Bloodyaussie]

I rejected the offer and need figure out my next move.

I need to sell my set up and am unsure whether to sell in complete or sell it bit by bit??

I know the loom and ecu are sort after.. I have promised the exhaust to Drew and Irish does not know it but he should buy my radiator..lol.

Do not know how much I should ask????

[Drewboyaus]

I rejected the offer and need figure out my next move. I need to sell my set up and am unsure whether to sell in complete or sell it bit by bit?? I know the loom and ecu are sort after.. I have promised the exhaust to Drew and Irish does not know it but he should buy my radiator..lol. Do not know how much I should ask????

I saw a TB42e listed for sale on eBay at a wrecker for $2100!!!!!!! WTF?

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Bloodyaussie]

Yeah I saw that and if it had said rebuilt or something but it said tested ok??????

[MudRunnerTD]

A guy on FB has a TD42 with bolt ons but no starter motor with 150,000 on it for $2,500 in Sydney. Can't tag you. Let me know if you want to hook up with him for a chat.

[Bloodyaussie]

OK guys I have paid for a td42 engine so the search is off.. I will be sorting out some other needed bits soon but on advice from Matty I will wait until it arrives before any decisions are made and more money spent.
Thanks for the links guys.. I will be looking for a power steering pump as that is the only thing it does not come with.

Been around at AB's for lat few hours sussing out all the differences and checking out AB's handy work on his intercooler set up...... good fun.

[AB]

OK guys I have paid for a td42 engine so the search is off.. I will be sorting out some other needed bits soon but on advice from Matty I will wait until it arrives before any decisions are made and more money spent.
Thanks for the links guys.. I will be looking for a power steering pump as that is the only thing it does not come with.

Been around at AB's for lat few hours sussing out all the differences and checking out AB's handy work on his intercooler set up...... good fun.

Fun times ahead mate, it'll work out in the end!

[Family4x4]

Great news, you must be excited. I hope it all comes together smoothly.

[Drewboyaus]

Very exciting mate.......

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Hodge]

Awesome. Good to hear you're getting somewhere BA! Exciting times ahead...

[Bloodyaussie]

I have to thank Matty as he has been very good to me with advice and not passing judgement upon me... lol !!!!!

Also Winnie for finding my engine and gearbox... your finders fee will come at the next trip mate !!!!

[Drewboyaus]

Is there any mod/compliance plating or engineering that needs to be done before Vicroads will accept it with a TD42 donk?

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Winnie]

I have to thank Matty as he has been very good to me with advice and not passing judgement upon me... lol !!!!!

Also Winnie for finding my engine and gearbox... your finders fee will come at the next trip mate !!!!

Yay cuddles!

[Bloodyaussie]

Is there any mod/compliance plating or engineering that needs to be done before Vicroads will accept it with a TD42 donk?

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

Nope .... I have to let Vicroads know of course but it is a 4.2 being swapped to a 4.2...

[Alitis007]

Nope .... I have to let Vicroads know of course but it is a 4.2 being swapped to a 4.2...
Only for the turbo...

Because the TD was an option for the gq it can be swapped without a hassle aslong as the emission control adr's are being met

[Rossco]

WOW! Exiting stuff Jono. After going down the conversion path myself I can assure you will not regret it one bit, everything is a positive - power, TORQUE, economy range AND RELIABLE!! And they sound awesome.

If you are getting it out of a car stuff you will need is - Bell housing, starter motor, radiator, vacuum reservoir and the lines that run along the firewall, fuel filter assembly and the lines that run along the firewall. Depending on which way you want to go with the eclectics, there are a couple of options, but at least you will need the instrument cluster with the tacho. I didn't put the full loom in mine, just the cluster and simply wired the glow plugs up to the factory relay via a momentary on switch in the cab which works fine, but if you want the full factory finish you will need the loom as well. You will also need standard tank to replace the gas tank, fuel lines should be fine. I would just hook it up to this, then worry about sorting out the belly tank later, but it's definitely worth keeping. Don't forget Patrolapart are very good with parts and advise and do heaps of conversions themselves.

Awesome stuff, looking forward to the project.

[Drewboyaus]

Only for the turbo... Because the TD was an option for the gq it can be swapped without a hassle aslong as the emission control adr's are being met


So what's the go with emission control and ADR's?

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Alitis007]

So what's the go with emission control and ADR's? Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner
When you do and engine swap like this firstly everything the car came with from factory with the diesel need to be swapped over into the petrol motor ( which i think isn't much ). Emissions on the other hand are a little different, as per all engine conversions the emissions ( intake and exhaust ) need to meet the criteria of which ever is newer for example if the motor was made in 2000 but the car was made in 1990 you need to make the car comply with the exhaust gas and emission adr's of 2000.

As long as Jonathan makes it look factory he shouldn't have a problem

[Drewboyaus]

When you do and engine swap like this firstly everything the car came with from factory with the diesel need to be swapped over into the petrol motor ( which i think isn't much ). Emissions on the other hand are a little different, as per all engine conversions the emissions ( intake and exhaust ) need to meet the criteria of which ever is newer for example if the motor was made in 2000 but the car was made in 1990 you need to make the car comply with the exhaust gas and emission adr's of 2000. As long as Jonathan makes it look factory he shouldn't have a problem

So hypothetically if I were to do the same thing, if mine is a '97, at a minimum I would need to comply with emissions standards from 1997 or later if I used a later model engine?

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Rossco]

Any details on the engine Jono?

K's, is the car being wrecked or crashed, I assume no turbo, silver or black top, injector pump size? Do you have to pull it out yourself?

As for the compliance it's pretty easy as they are both factory fitted motors, all you have to do is notify vic roads of the change of engine number, don't think it even needs to be inspected.

[Bloodyaussie]

Any details on the engine Jono?

K's, is the car being wrecked or crashed, I assume no turbo, silver or black top, injector pump size? Do you have to pull it out yourself?

As for the compliance it's pretty easy as they are both factory fitted motors, all you have to do is notify vic roads of the change of engine number, don't think it even needs to be inspected.

Gee for someone who almost never on you are pushy....lol !!

Silver top with 300 on it... reco factory pump and no turbo.

The motor is coming down from Sydney and will be here on the 30th.

Comes with gearbox,loom all bolt ons except power steering pump and comes with gearbox mounts plus some other goodies...

Price paid for this is $2200

Funny I have spent the day outside cleaning and gardening so have managed to not think about this nearly all day.

I am in limbo until it arrives as I am under strict orders from Matty to not spend a cent until it is all checked out.

[krbrooking]

Good to hear man, glad to see it is working out for ya. The other bonus is you will be more experienced for when I need to do mine.

[Rossco]

Gee for someone who almost never on you are pushy....lol !!

Silver top with 300 on it... reco factory pump and no turbo.

The motor is coming down from Sydney and will be here on the 30th.

Comes with gearbox,loom all bolt ons except power steering pump and comes with gearbox mounts plus some other goodies...

Price paid for this is $2200

Funny I have spent the day outside cleaning and gardening so have managed to not think about this nearly all day.

I am in limbo until it arrives as I am under strict orders from Matty to not spend a cent until it is all checked out.


Ha Ha LOL.

Sounds good, mine had exactly 300 on it when I got it, so far it hasn't missed a beat. Not having a turbo should mean it hasn't been too stressed (until now that is)!

Whats up with your gearbox, no good? Price sounds good!!

[Bloodyaussie]

My box drops out of 3rd on its own and is leaking like a MF from the front seal... this way I sort out the leak and also the gearing plus have the right bell housing.

I think as your car is really a Mav there are some differences to the build plus mine being an efi...

[Winnie]

Being a mav makes no difference... I think the job will be a bit more involved converting from the injected motor.

[Bloodyaussie]

You would be surprised at some of the differences in a mav...

Yes I know efi there is a little more involved and will start looking into what is required ... got my little black book to keep notes for everything including money spent and little bits of information I pick up along the way.

There are a few other things like battery tray and radiator I also have to source. .
Fuel filter canister thingy?

[Rossco]

Yeah there are a few Mav differences, it's usually just things that they miss out on like the swaybar disconnect.

The EFI will be a bit more involved but I'm sure it wont be too hard to nut out along the way.

At least you can run a full sized second battery now:) Don't forget the shroud for the radiator as well and definitely fuel filter thingy!!

[Alitis007]

So hypothetically if I were to do the same thing, if mine is a '97, at a minimum I would need to comply with emissions standards from 1997 or later if I used a later model engine? Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner
This is a handy publication i have tried to follow when i've modified my cars, http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/~/media/Publications/1031%201.pdf but here is the explanation your looking for Drew


3. Engines
Vehicle engines are designed by the manufacturer of the vehicle to meet stringent exhaust and evaporative emission standards set out in the ADRs. Changing the engine of a vehicle must not result in more pollution being emitted than would be emitted by the original engine when properly maintained.
The following engine replacement options are available.

(a) Replacement of an original engine with a new, reconditioned or used engine of the same general specification is permitted. This engine must be designed to meet the original engine's emission standards. All emission control devices and systems must be fitted. For example, you can install a new, reconditioned or secondhand Commodore VN 6-cylinder engine into your VN Commodore.

(b) Replacement of an original engine by an engine that was offered as an option for that vehicle make and model at the time of manufacture of the vehicle is permitted. The replacement engine must be of the same specification and in its original configuration including all emissions-related devices or systems. For example, Ford provided several engine options for the XE Falcon, so the 3.3 litre 6-cylinder engine can be replaced by a larger V8 from the same model range.

(c) Replacement of an original spark ignition engine by a diesel engine is permitted.

(d) Replacement of an original engine with an engine that was designed to meet more stringent requirements is permitted provided that the replacement engine is in its original configuration including all emissions-related devices or systems. For example you can replace the engine of your 1987 VL Holden Commodore with an engine made in 1997 for a VS Commodore.

(e) Replacement of an original engine by any other engine is permitted provided that:
i. if the original engine was originally fitted with emission control devices or systems, then the replacement engine must be of similar or later age and must be designed to meet the same or more stringent emission standards (plus the emission control devices or systems applicable to that replacement engine must be fitted and operate in the correct manner)
(f)
Replacement of an original engine by any other engine may be acceptable if it can be shown by way of test or appropriate engineering reasoning that the emissions are equal to or less than could be expected from the original vehicle.
and
ii. The mass of the vehicle must be no more than 114 kg greater than the mass of the vehicle from which the replacement engine originated.
An acceptable example would be the fitting of a V6 engine from a VS Commodore passenger car into a 1996 Toyota Hilux originally fitted with 4-cylinder engine. An unacceptable example would be the fitting of a VS Commodore V6 engine into a larger, heavier vehicle such as a 1996 Toyota Landcruiser.

[Family4x4]

Can we get a countdown clock for the arrival of BA's motor!

[Bloodyaussie]

Can we get a countdown clock for the arrival of BA motor!

God I am nervous enough.... !!!!!!!!!!!!

So Rossco what did you have to do when it came to Vicroads ??

[Family4x4]

If the seller said the motor is good then it is good. Get excited!

[MudRunnerTD]

I have a Fuel filter thingy ;) when I was chasing my fuel problem I bought one from a wreckers. Swapped them out but did not fix the problem so it went in the spares. Can't remember what I paid? My left Nut from memory!! Be happy to sell it to you for a fraction of my left Nut

[Bloodyaussie]

Thanks Daz.

What are they worth??????

I have almost no budget until the ride on or engine sells as I refuse to use the house money for anything.. trying to be smart about my spending.

Great being broke and doing a conversion...LOL

[liftlid]

Fully reco power steering pump from patrol a part is $390 if you have a core to exchange you get $100 back, just swapped mine out before trip as it was starting to get hard to steer when cold and at idle still worked though. Just need to send back before 2 months for credit, which I must do!!

[krbrooking]

Like said before man I am home all morn once I have dropped the kids off so if you need a hand thought the week it let me know man and what is happening bout the rebuild and are we all helping or are you going to be stubborn and and do it all yourself again.

Sent from me using Forum Runner

[Bloodyaussie]

Fully reco power steering pump from patrol a part is $390 if you have a core to exchange you get $100 back, just swapped mine out before trip as it was starting to get hard to steer when cold and at idle still worked though. Just need to send back before 2 months for credit, which I must do!!

Shut up Gary I did not ask you..... lol !!!

Arrrmm.... I have not thought much about how and when and what with this build... as I am not in a rush I dont feel the need to have some big shindig... unless you lot want one???

Might be an excuse to all catch up??

[krbrooking]

Might be an excuse to all catch up??

I think it's as good of one as any.

Sent from me using Forum Runner

[Marti]

Im in the process of doing this conversion

I bought a dead td42, rebuilt it using turbo internals, turbo squinters(longer) up graded oil pump and turbo pistons.
I built it but got the machine work done else where.
as I wasn't out for massive numbers im using a rebuilt HT18 with to4e internals. cost me 500 dollars
I managed to find a GU td42 factory turbo manifold for 150 dollars.
the most expensive part of my build was the injector pump and injectors, I sent mine over to nsw to a guy who rebuilt my standard 10mm with an 11mm plunger and added a boost compensator. not to mention completely rebuilt my injectors for my turbo set up. this all cost me 2200.
clutch cost me 600(safari).

my cross road is finding a top mount cooler that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

its a very easy conversion to do. as people have said you'll need a bell housing, vacuumed res, starter and alternator, ps pump. it Is better to buy a complete motor and just put it in. your fuel tanks and line will all work with this set up. just make sure you remove all fuel from the tank and clean it thoroughly .

factor in a exhaust aswell

[Bloodyaussie]

Curious why everyone keeps telling me I need a vacuum canister.

The TB42E has one, is there a difference surely not??

[nissannewby]

Curious why everyone keeps telling me I need a vacuum canister.

The TB42E has one, is there a difference surely not??

Volume of it will be the difference. Just run it and see how goes if the vacuum runs out you need more storage. I think the main difference will be yours has 1 canister the td will have 2

[Bloodyaussie]

Volume of it will be the difference. Just run it and see how goes if the vacuum runs out you need more storage. I think the main difference will be yours has 1 canister the td will have 2

Thanks for that matty...
Been wondering and the grinding has been keeping me awake..

Bloody killing me at the moment with the waiting and with no more funds anyway. .

Started on other things to keep me busy like taking all the bar work off..

[Marti]

If td have 2 then where is the other vacume can ?, one is on the passenger side and has the lines from the alternator running to it. Where's the other one?

[MudRunnerTD]

Why is the bar work coming off BA?

[Bloodyaussie]

Why is the bar work coming off BA?

Because it looks shit................. it all needs a big clean up and paint.

The scrub bar/side steps are bent and there was discussion on how to straighten but looking at them off this is going to be bloody hard.

I am going to sell my Narva's also as I dont get use out of them and just about always use my light bars.

[MudRunnerTD]

are your scrub bars and side steps steal or aluminium? I had ali scrub bars on the GQ when i first bought them and used to bend the steps regularly. I got really good at straightening them out on the car though! ;)

There a couple of tricks that work great. let me know if you need to know. They need to be on the car though.

[Bloodyaussie]

are your scrub bars and side steps steal or aluminium? I had ali scrub bars on the GQ when i first bought them and used to bend the steps regularly. I got really good at straightening them out on the car though! ;)

There a couple of tricks that work great. let me know if you need to know. They need to be on the car though.

Now you tell me....... mine are steel and have already taken off, just about to take the bullbar off now.

[cutanything]

so has any succeeded in get tacho to work after tb to td conversion yet be interested to know as my parents have converted their toy and i am trying to get my head around the delmore

[Bloodyaussie]

Posted my efi engine up for sale...... also whats the go with throttle cable, are they the same??

[Marti]

The tacho will only work if you use a td rev counter. Very easy to fit as the tacho will bolt into the tb set up. Youll need a pin out diagram and run the 2 wire s from the sender to the tacho

Youll need a td throttle cable. You cant use the tb cable as its a little short

[Rossco]

God I am nervous enough.... !!!!!!!!!!!!

So Rossco what did you have to do when it came to Vicroads ??

Not long now Jono.

In regards to Vicroads, umm . . . it's on my list will get around to it shortly!!!

In regards to the vacuum reservoir, not sure what the EFI has got, I didn't know they had one. You might be able to use it but might not be big enough. I reckon track down a TD one with the lines and it will work properly and look factory. Also everything will just bolt up where it should - too easy. Any possibility of getting these bits and pieces from the engine supplier?

[Bloodyaussie]

Not sure mate.... there is a tub full of stuff but not 100% sure whats in it?? think its just loom and mounts.

Also you slack prick.

[Rossco]

Yeaaaahhhhhh . . . . . . .

Suss out what you can get. Might save some $$$$ and time chasing up little bits and pieces.

[Bloodyaussie]

Just took deposit for my petrol engine................ wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

I am so happy that I can move forward.... I have done it on my own with only help in the way of many hands.

For those that dont know George is a top bloke with a huge heart and Matty who did not make judgment on my decision and offered good advice again and again.

I know its early days yet but the help from good people who do not just take but give is overwhelming... I wish I could help others more than I Do.

God I hope this pays off and I enjoy happy motoring for years to come as it has come bloody close to me being black balled from 4wding and rightly so.. I cannot keep taking from my family without giving back (lesson there for some) and I hope to do so soon with some good family trips and many years of memories..

And yes I am half cut and off to bed to see if I can get some.......probably not!!!!

[Robo]

I have a Fuel filter thingy ;) when I was chasing my fuel problem I bought one from a wreckers. Swapped them out but did not fix the problem so it went in the spares. Can't remember what I paid? My left Nut from memory!! Be happy to sell it to you for a fraction of my left Nut

Usually its an arm, but you gave up left nut!.
must of been expensive.

[Bloodyaussie]

Had a good look at Sean's NA td42 today and from what I can tell the vacuum canister is the same and so is the aircon.

I do really need the fuel lines that run across the firewall so will look into that soon... keep you eyes out for that one (I think I might need all the fuel lines).

I am dropping off my car tomorrow and George will pull the engine and gearbox out when time permits during the week....

Then when I get the car back its a matter of sorting all the whats not needed and what is.

Sean might have a buyer for my ride on so that is mostly where all the incoming cash sits at and I will be on a tight budget.

[nissannewby]

Are you talking the lines that run across to the passenger side to the fuel filter then back to the injector pump? If it is not all were mounted there, they were also mounted on the drivers side behind the battery.

[Bloodyaussie]

Are you talking the lines that run across to the passenger side to the fuel filter then back to the injector pump? If it is not all were mounted there, they were also mounted on the drivers side behind the battery.

Yeah someone mentioned that to me the other day... Might have to see if I can run my eyes over that set up.

OOh Matty you are getting close mate... 6 more!!!

[nissannewby]

Yeah someone mentioned that to me the other day... Might have to see if I can run my eyes over that set up.

OOh Matty you are getting close mate... 6 more!!!

Haha I will stop posting for a couple of months :p

[krbrooking]

BA: . I wish I could help others more than I Do.

You have helped ppl more than you think man, you are one of the most selfless ppl I have met and so willing to help ppl out with out any questions asked. That is why so many ppl are willing to help you now.

[lucus30]

I agree BA you are a great bloke who always seems happy to help.

I wish I was more helpful but unfortunately my mechanical skills are average compared to others on this forum

[Family4x4]

I don't understand people saying BA is a good bloke he is a cock.

[matfew]

how's the nerves matey lol. You know where I stand with this. I have 2 weeks off still......

[Bloodyaussie]

Cheers guys.... you make me want to break out into song!!

Hey car is looking odd and has gotten taller..

47633
47634

[Winnie]

Wow..... It looks shit! Bwahahah

[Alitis007]

Wow..... It looks shit! Bwahahah i'd say it looks farked!!

[krbrooking]

it looks like a toorak tractor!!!!!!!!!!!

[Family4x4]

For interests sake the turbo I was telling you about. They appear good for the price.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-dlj1XUG6o

[Bloodyaussie]

I think I may go a full DTS kit... I like the idea of owning something new for once and both Mat and George suggested I go this way.

The intercooler will wait as I will be out of funds for sure.

The other question is gauges .. what ones are good and what do you need, Boost and temps is it?

[Winnie]

Boost and pyro are essential.

[Bloodyaussie]

Boost and pyro are essential.

Any good ones to get????

[nissannewby]

Any good ones to get????


I like vdo myself. But I have also used gloshift. The gloshift gauges are great and priced very well we bought 3 gauges (boost,pyro and coolant) for nearly the price of a vdo gauge over here. Delivery time from the states was awesome too.

[nissannewby]

Oh and they all came with fitting kits so I didnt need anything else.

[MudRunnerTD]

I run a DTS kit on my GQ and reckon its a great solid kit mate, I'd be keen to maybe make a change now if funds permitted chasing bigger power but that's being a pig mate, the DTS kit is great!

On my GQ I have fitted a pyro, Boost, water temp and Oil Pressure gauge.

[Alitis007]

Jonathan one step at a time mate, seriously lol lets get the motor in and running then look at accessories!!!!

You gotta chill out a bit...

Everyone stop feeding him information, can't you see its dangerous !? Lol

[Alitis007]

I forgot to say i prefer my autometer 2 5/8" gauges but i like Perin gauges aswell

[Bloodyaussie]

What the hell you mean chill out.... I am not buying anything just asking questions......... I know you are a control freak George but I am allowed to ask questions.

I just be back in my box then shall I..... freaking LOL !!!!!!!!!!!

[BigRAWesty]

Whow......

I think someone has sand in there vagina.........


Anywho... In all seriousness does the huge price difference mean a better gauge.
I bought an eBay egt 52mm gauge with fitting kit for like $40..
Have tested it in hot water and it works well.
Digital read out with secondary voltage reading to..
So is $150 each really necessary or is this one of those things which you pay for a name??

[Bloodyaussie]

While I was ringing for prices for Nic I got a price for a turbo and intercooler setup and was quoted $1600 for the lot?

Not sure on what I get for that.. also I rang the trucking bloke about the delivery time for tomorrow and he told me Thursday.... Fwarking doodle dogs !!!!!

[Family4x4]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Patrol-Td42-Turbo-Setup-/151366275215?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item233e22108f&_uhb=1

This has been re listed 2 times.

[Bloodyaussie]

Yes I have seen it and is in my watch list... George told me off for looking at it... I am not allowed to do anything without George telling me what to do... It's like having 2 wifes???

[AB]

It's like having 2 wifes???

If you had to choose, which one????

[Bloodyaussie]

If you had to choose, which one????

After last night Mags for sure..... ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

[nissannewby]

Yes I have seen it and is in my watch list... George told me off for looking at it... I am not allowed to do anything without George telling me what to do... It's like having 2 wifes???

Dont forget to add other extras to that like exhaust and turbo oil drain if you end up with an na block. Not to mention its still secondhand.

[Alitis007]

Yes I have seen it and is in my watch list... George told me off for looking at it... I am not allowed to do anything without George telling me what to do... It's like having 2 wifes??? i love the fact you only ever say the part of the story you want to hear lol! Instead of trying to find out important things like are the clutches the same or is the air con the same and are they in the same position or are the tailshafts the same etc your looking at second hand rubbish with no warranty and gauges that show you how much boost your running on a n/a motor and hot hot the soot is in the zorst of this n/a motor..
If you had to choose, which one????
I'm the obvious choice!

Dont forget to add other extras to that like exhaust and turbo oil drain if you end up with an na block. Not to mention its still secondhand.
And exhaust from the turbo back, and if its a second hand cooler is it leaking. Can't think of anything else atm, lol oil burners are in your domain mate haha!

[Bloodyaussie]

Does anyone know if the radiator shrouds are the same?????

[Alitis007]

They're the Same!

[Family4x4]

The motor must be in Vic!

[matfew]

yep shrouds ate same I'm using a tb one in mine

[Bloodyaussie]

Motor is still not here... arrives tomorrow.

[taslucas]

yep shrouds ate same I'm using a tb one in mine

No wonder it revs hard

[Winnie]

This is news to me that a TB revs hard!

[Clunk]

This is news to me that a TB revs hard!

Obviously didn't try hard enough

[MudRunnerTD]

I have your Power Steering pump mate

[Winnie]

Obviously didn't try hard enough

5 grand is not revving hard... Haha

[Bloodyaussie]

I have your Power Steering pump mate

Thanks mate I will try and be there about 10.30am....

Bloody good talking to both you and Gary this morning.... Gary is a top bloke and very helpful for someone that is not on the forum much.. heaps of info.

Went to buy the clocks today and did not realise there are 2 different types so have to wait until the engine arrives so I can take a pic of the loom for the guy I am getting my cluster through.

Also forgot to mention that I bought a compression tester for diesels and if others need to use them they may.

Feeling a little stressed but that is normal with this sort of thing.

[mudski]

I kind of exited stress though. I would be wetting myself with exitement right now.

[Bloodyaussie]

Still no engine... delayed another day.

Caught up with daz and picked up few bits and bobs.. thanks daz/Gary.

Scored a radiator tonight also..

[AB]

Still no engine... delayed another day.

Caught up with daz and picked up few bits and bobs.. thanks daz/Gary.

Scored a radiator tonight also..

Are you nervous?

[Clunk]

5 grand is not revving hard... Haha

Mine goes up to 6k, like I said you weren't trying hard enough lol

[Bloodyaussie]

Are you nervous?

Would be an understatement... talking to Daz was good but being told it would be another day for delivery pissed me off.

I need you to ring Patrolapart for me Andy because I am not in the mood for them and get me a few fiddly bits.

[Bloodyaussie]

Engine is here.... arrived at the workshop and Billy was the only one there to help the truckie to unload... I turned up just as they got it all off the truck.

Have not had a chance to look to far into it as I have a busy day with kids and stuff...

Just need to motor out for this young bloke as he is very keen.

[matfew]

nice work. hopefully she is in and running without issues in no time bud

[krbrooking]

Good news man, I bet the nerves are higher now

Sent from me using Forum Runner

[Bloodyaussie]

Yes and no... it is not a priority until the other engine is out and gone then we can worry about the td42.

Took some photos of the loom which is all of the engine bay plus the dash but is cut in a spot I am not sure of yet... I will figure all of that out soon.

Thanks to Sean the ride on mower went today and I have some more cash but that will go to en-sundries like filters and belts and injectors and all other bits I am missing?

I had a fuel sender but cut it to go in the aux tank and now I need another plus viscous fan and a few other things.

learning all the time and we were not learning something new then no point being around

[Bloodyaussie]

Its all started...... scary.

478264782747828

[AB]

Its all started...... scary.

<img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47826"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47827"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47828"/>

You owe George a lot of love Johnathon!!!!!

[nissannewby]

George is looking a little "healthier" or do you guys just pack on a little for winter :p

[Bloodyaussie]

George is looking a little "healthier" or do you guys just pack on a little for winter :p

Given up cigs....

[nissannewby]

Given up cigs....

Wise choice. Not that I can talk I have nearly put 12kg on since you guys saw me down there.

[Winnie]

All the more for Jonathan to cuddle. That's why he loves me so much.

[Ben-e-boy]

Wise choice. Not that I can talk I have nearly put 12kg on since you guys saw me down there.

You now weigh 25kg

[Alitis007]

Its all started...... scary. <img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47826"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47827"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=47828"/>
Thats it!! Your car's getting pushed on the train tracks and i'm going to sell all the good bits!!! That would have to the worst pic of me i have ever seen, i would say that angle make me look like the bloke that ate me!!! Lol


George is looking a little "healthier" or do you guys just pack on a little for winter :p

I haven't stacked nothing on, i had to weigh myself after i seeing the pic and i still weigh in at 70kg's. Even tho i stopped smoking about 5 weeks ago and i've been eating twice as much ( and drinking lol ) i haven't put on any weight. Jonathan must have had his fat cam on or something the farken gaylord carnt!!

[Chappy]

Hey Bloodyaussie, are you in Thomastown? I saw that you had your EFI engine located and that's where pickup was from.
I'm in Bundoora and I'm currently doing the exact same conversion, I'm a little in front of you at this stage but we may be able to help each other out.

[PMC]

Wise choice. Not that I can talk I have nearly put 12kg on since you guys saw me down there.

Farkkk!

You short fat scrote. lol

Regards,

AB

[Bloodyaussie]

I am so tired... the engine is gone and there is heaps to do but pressure is off for now.

Just need to do a compression test to see if what has been claimed is true.

I have a full wiring loom and need to start stripping out my engine bay and dash.

Thanks to one of my contacts I managed to get a set of clocks that suit my set up and are bloody hard to find, the bloke did not want to sell them but in the end agreed and I was so grateful.

George wanted to get the engine looked over properly today but ended up being a very busy day at the shop and it was more than enough to get most of the main stuff out.

Both Billy and George have been brilliant I cant thank them enough..

Tomorrow is a chill out day with no work being done and some orienteering with the family... should be fun.

[Sir Roofy]

i am so tired... The engine is gone and there is heaps to do but pressure is off for now.

Just need to do a compression test to see if what has been claimed is true.

I have a full wiring loom and need to start stripping out my engine bay and dash.

Thanks to one of my contacts i managed to get a set of clocks that suit my set up and are bloody hard to find, the bloke did not want to sell them but in the end agreed and i was so grateful.

George wanted to get the engine looked over properly today but ended up being a very busy day at the shop and it was more than enough to get most of the main stuff out.

Both billy and george have been brilliant i cant thank them enough..

Tomorrow is a chill out day with no work being done and some orienteering with the family... Should be fun.

about time you took a brake all work no play makes jono a dull boy

[Bloodyaussie]

Sitting here going through the list of seals and belts and hoses and so on.... it all adds up.

Not sure which vendor to use yet....

Has anyone had experience with Vic roads once changing an engine from petrol to diesel ?

[Hodge]

Glad to see it's all happening mate. Looks like i won't be seeing the mighty Q run around here for a bit ...

[Parksy]

This is getting exciting. Don't forget detailed photos of everything.

[Ben-e-boy]

Is it done yet???????????????????????

[MudRunnerTD]

Wise choice. Not that I can talk I have nearly put 12kg on since you guys saw me down there.

Holy shit ya fat Fark!!! It's those loopy fruit loops mate!!

[nissannewby]

Holy shit ya fat Fark!!! It's those loopy fruit loops mate!!

Believe it or not that was prob the last time I ate them too.

[Ben-e-boy]

Holy shit ya fat Fark!!! It's those loopy fruit loops mate!!

Thats not very nice..... he has a bun in the oven

[Bloodyaussie]

Is it done yet???????????????????????

Sorry benny I have to fit parenting in and a little bit of work and am also at the mercy of others... We hy dont you come and get it all fired up for me.

[Rossco]

Nice work Jono, sounds like you'll be in action in the not too distant future. No point stressing tho you may as well enjoy the whole process. GIDDY UP

Photos . . . . . . ?

[Bloodyaussie]

Pulled my starter apart today as it was seized up...... errr no repairing this pucker.

478854788547886

[Family4x4]

Pulled my starter apart today as it was seized up...... errr no repairing this pucker.

478854788547886

Did that starter come with the td42?

[Bloodyaussie]

I cant say it was from this engine as it was just cable tied to the pallet.

Will pick one up first thing in the morning as George will need it to do the compression test and would rather have it sitting there in case he gets a spare moment.

[Bloodyaussie]

So I picked up the new starter today and got a quote for an alternator also if it turns out it is needed...

I also requested quotes for seals from a few vendors and the only one to not get back to me is Patrolapart..??

One vendor got back to me withing minutes with all the prices and if available.

[Bloodyaussie]

Just been going through all the numbers and parts sourcing and an overwhelming feeling of stress and anxiety has come over me..... weird..?

Still waiting to see if I have done the right thing or have stuffed up in a big way.

Life could be so much simpler ....he he.. oh god....

[Rossco]

That starters pretty bad!! Can you take it up with the supplier or was it just included as a freebie?

Also forgot to mention, make sure you label all the wiring to save a few headaches re wiring. I'm sure Georgies got it all sorted tho.

[Rossco]

Just been going through all the numbers and parts sourcing and an overwhelming feeling of stress and anxiety has come over me..... weird..?

Still waiting to see if I have done the right thing or have stuffed up in a big way.

Life could be so much simpler ....he he.. oh god....

Don't stress Jono, I thought the same thing. You'll love it, no regrets - Promise :)

[Bloodyaussie]

I have a complete loom now I got on the weekend so it is all plug and play.. I have a brand new starter paid for today and will save the old one as a missile of revenge.

I need the car home so I can get on with this conversion as having it at Georges shop makes it hard for me to get stuff done with my little boy with me most of the week...

[Parksy]

It will work out Jono. When's the compression test getting done? This should hopefully be a confidence booster when it reveals good results.

[Bloodyaussie]

Just got back from the workshop and everything is set up to go but we did not have enough battery juice to do the test..

George pulled the glow plugs out and thinks they are pretty much new and thinks the oil is also.

We cranked the engine over by hand to see that is does turn and all went well there.... how hard are diesels supposed to be to turn over by hand??

Sorry forgot to take pics while I was there.

Tomorrow morning we will run the compression test before I have to head to Toorak to do what little work I do these days.... dont know if I can stand another day without knowing...blah..

Thanks again to George for hanging around late doing this...

[nissannewby]

Are you sleeping?

[Chappy]

Did you see my post earlier Bloodyaussie? I'm doing the exact same conversion. I'm just down in the road in Bundoora, we could probably help each other out if need be. I'm a little bit in front of you currently.

[MudRunnerTD]

Did you see my post earlier Bloodyaussie? I'm doing the exact same conversion. I'm just down in the road in Bundoora, we could probably help each other out if need be. I'm a little bit in front of you currently.

That's a great offer GQJett, don't worry about Jonno, he's a bloody stress head, when he pulls his head out of the bucket he will almost certainly touch base with you.

[Alitis007]

That starters pretty bad!! Can you take it up with the supplier or was it just included as a freebie? Also forgot to mention, make sure you label all the wiring to save a few headaches re wiring. I'm sure Georgies got it all sorted tho.

Dw bout me Rossco, i've had to assemble cars from buckets of bolts and boots full of parts before a few wires here and there shouldn't be a problem lol

[Irish]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o234/Irishpete/Mobile%20Uploads/thehomer_zps26b0fae7.jpg

[AB]

Racket peanut steering...

[Bloodyaussie]

Got my car back this morning so I could begin stripping the loom and interior....... all the crap I have added is whats killing me.

I will start from scratch with all my extra wiring and do it much better.. should make a big difference having a blank template.

My back is hurting from leaning into the cab for a few hours... wahoo !!!!

Mark dropped around this morning with main seals for the engine and gearbox plus some extra bits he sells.

It is overwhelming when I look at every little thing that needs doing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

spent a bit of time under the bonnet of my GQ on the weekend stripping out some wiring too. sorting out the 24v and removing the second battery will mean everything needs redoing and rewiring to the main battery. Did a cull a couple of yeas ago and ripped out a heap of old wiring that was redundant but remained in place, found some more on the weekend not doing anything!

Bloody hope i can put it back together when the time comes.

You will be right Jonno, when your done i will call you up to sort mine out!!

[Bloodyaussie]

I would love to have a TD42 parked next to mine on Saturday for an hour with no distractions.... problem with every time I have looked at a car its while gas bagging like an old mole.

[matfew]

you can have mine dude. I can drop round n give ya a hand if ya like matey.

[Bloodyaussie]

All boring stuff Matty... just chipping away but more than welcome to come around... would be nice to talk to someone else for a change!!!!

[Winnie]

All boring stuff Matty... just chipping away but more than welcome to come around... would be nice to talk to someone else for a change!!!!

Slap him George!

[Bloodyaussie]

Slap him George!

He does.... all the bloody time!!!

What about you Winnie I need your help more than any other... you call yourself a mate?

[Winnie]

He does.... all the bloody time!!!

What about you Winnie I need your help more than any other... you call yourself a mate?

What do you need?

[Bloodyaussie]

What do you need?

All good mate.... just like your company !!!

Got the sound deadening to sort also and I think tomorrow I will go source some more parts and look into some underlay.

If I took a pic of all the wiring you would either piss yourself laughing or be sick !!!

[nissannewby]

Any news on the donk?

[Bloodyaussie]

Any news on the donk?

I have been told to stay away and worry about sorting my car out and barwork.... I have learnt to do as I am told after 19 years with Margherita!!!!

[nissannewby]

I have been told to stay away and worry about sorting my car out and barwork.... I have learnt to do as I am told after 19 years with Margherita!!!!

If you have been told by the mrs fair enough. But there is no conversion without an engine :p

[Winnie]

If you have been told by the mrs fair enough. But there is no conversion without an engine :p

But his wiring will be real tidy though!

[AB]

My car will be good to go this weekend if you want a squizz sunshine.

[krbrooking]

Do you want me to stop in sometime this week and give you a hand man!!!

Sent from me using Forum Runner

[mudski]

Jonathan. Please take a photo of that wiring jammed under your carpet and show the good people of np.com.au! I have never seen so many wires! Even a few relays thrown under the carpet for good measure. You gotta see this guys. And his bloody doof doof fully sick subwoofer in the back! Oh my gawd! Unce! Unce! Unce! Its mad bro!
Doing the TD conversion will be the easy part. Its the wiring BA really needs to worry about.
When its time for the wiring I suggested he run a bunch of wires through the firewall and just leave hanging on either side. Used from some seven core trailer wire. Then he has more than enough wires to use for pretty much everything. This is what I did, I ran two lots of seven core through 1 inch ID flexi tubing so I no longer need to run wires, just join at either end. All colour coded too...
Any of the pro auto elec's think it good to do that? This will be a nightmare of a job....

[Bloodyaussie]

Do you want me to stop in sometime this week and give you a hand man!!!

Sent from me using Forum Runner

For the rest of this week Kev I will not be getting heaps done... Saturday I will try and hook in but for now I will hunt down some more parts and do the odd bit here and there, Fridays are pretty much a no go with kids chores and shopping.

Did not sleep again last night and I am not sure if because of this or if its something else??

[Alitis007]

Slap him George!
No dramas mate! But you know what, i like scaring him with the threat of my lil brother around like on saturday when he and one of my other mates Rohan where here and they got smart so i started to fire up my brother and told him to put them to sleep with an arm triangle choke hold and they both ran off quick smart hahahaa

Any news on the donk?
Its a diesel, nuff said!! Lol nah when i get a chance i'm going to measure the clearances of the cylinder with the highest comp, reset the others and re asses the condition of the motor.

Saying that i need time, my bro and i are running the shop while my dads away and we've taken on enough work for 4 people so time is the only problem

When its time for the wiring I suggested he run a bunch of wires through the firewall and just leave hanging on either side. Used from some seven core trailer wire. Then he has more than enough wires to use for pretty much everything. This is what I did, I ran two lots of seven core through 1 inch ID flexi tubing so I no longer need to run wires, just join at either end. All colour coded too... Any of the pro auto elec's think it good to do that? This will be a nightmare of a job....
Really?? Trailer wire?? Thats only 7 or 10 amp wire, half the things he runs thru those switches need atleast 15 - 20amp wire so they don't burn out.

[mudski]

Really?? Trailer wire?? Thats only 7 or 10 amp wire, half the things he runs thru those switches need atleast 15 - 20amp wire so they don't burn out.

Yeah I didn't write that too well...when you run everything via a relay, thats all you need. The heavier wire required obviously run that separate. But I have all my relays in the engine bay and the switching wires via the tube I have fit through the firewall. Plus extras for other things I may want to fit...

[Chappy]

Are you winning with the loom swap Bloodyaussie? I've taken out my entire dash and front interior only to realize how different my two looms are. I was planning on splicing them together but they seem to have different wires and they even run in different directions.

I think the difference between a series 1 TD loom and series 2 EFI loom is too different. I thought they would have been the same in cab but they aren't.

I'm at a loss as to what to do, I'm not very good with this wiring business. I feel like if I splice them together something will go wrong somewhere. Any suggestions? Do I just modify the EFI loom to suit the diesel?

[mudski]

I though those looms you buy for the conversions are just plug and pray.

[Bloodyaussie]

Are you winning with the loom swap Bloodyaussie? I've taken out my entire dash and front interior only to realize how different my two looms are. I was planning on splicing them together but they seem to have different wires and they even run in different directions.

I think the difference between a series 1 TD loom and series 2 EFI loom is too different. I thought they would have been the same in cab but they aren't.

I'm at a loss as to what to do, I'm not very good with this wiring business. I feel like if I splice them together something will go wrong somewhere. Any suggestions? Do I just modify the EFI loom to suit the diesel?

Not up to that mate.... I am in no super rush so it maybe Saturday before I have the efi loom out and compare them on the ground.. I have been told the loom I have bought is a straight swap over as they are both series 2 looms.

Time will tell.. welcome to look at my loom if you like.

[Chappy]

I though those looms you buy for the conversions are just plug and pray.
My loom was stripped out of a series 1 TD wagon. Where do you buy the plug and play looms from?


Not up to that mate.... I am in no super rush so it maybe Saturday before I have the efi loom out and compare them on the ground.. I have been told the loom I have bought is a straight swap over as they are both series 2 looms.

Time will tell.. welcome to look at my loom if you like.

I'll be fiddling with mine again on Saturday. I'm really anxious to get it all in. I'm just not sure if I should adapt the TB loom or try and wing it and hope everything works with the TD loom.. It's a lot of work if it doesn't. I might need to come and have a look at yours.

[mudski]

My loom was stripped out of a series 1 TD wagon. Where do you buy the plug and play looms from?




Here....
http://stores.ebay.com.au/Killa-Kustom-Auto-Electrical

[Alitis007]

[QUOTE="GQJETT;529486"] My loom was stripped out of a series 1 TD wagon. Where do you buy the plug and play looms from? /QUOTE]


Try this bloke out http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261058642498 he does most ls - patrol conversion looms

[Alitis007]

Here.... http://stores.ebay.com.au/Killa-Kustom-Auto-Electrical
Snap!!!!!!!

[Chappy]

Thanks for that guys. Pretty pricey but I'll have a look into it.

[Bloodyaussie]

Thought I was not going to today but ended up pulling out my dash and all my dodge wiring... just have to tackle the birds nest that is the alarm that was installed by the previous owner and it is all back to stock..

The next step is to do a big tidy up and taking stock before removing the loom as a whole otherwise it will get to crazy and I will get lost in it all!!!

I have ordered the sound deadening stuff from overseas and went to clark rubber to get some rubber bungs that were missing.

Have not found any money only a parking docket for 1997.

I have decided to "kiss" and run less and more simple set up... the air conditioning system is disgusting and one of the filters looks like a 3 pack a day smokers lungs...yuck !!!!

I have also decided not to try and be ready for the forum meet as it will put to much pressure on me and it is not necessary ... it will be ready when its ready.

And one other thing I am thinking of a decent alarm??? any suggestions.

[Alitis007]

Viper alarm with gps tracker!!

48081

control your car from your phone

[Bloodyaussie]

Viper alarm with gps tracker!!

48081

control your car from your phone

Within reason !!!!!

[Alitis007]

The alarm is roughly 350 ( or was that my price lol ) then the tracker was about the same plus 100$ a year

[nissannewby]

The alarm is roughly 350 ( or was that my price lol ) then the tracker was about the same plus 100$ a year

With the rate at which these go missing a tracker is a very good idea.

[AB]

There was a company who wanted to advertise on here with trackers a few years back.

Unknown brand from china and asked if I wanted one to try...sure!

Plugged it in the charger at work went for a smoke and came back and my desk was smoking, the battery had swelled up and almost caught fire...lol

With the amount of thefts happening I'm super paranoid now. I need to get something like that George and would be money well spent for peace of mind!

[Ben-e-boy]

There was a company who wanted to advertise on here with trackers a few years back.

Unknown brand from china and asked if I wanted one to try...sure!

Plugged it in the charger at work went for a smoke and came back and my desk was smoking, the battery had swelled up and almost caught fire...lol

With the amount of thefts happening I'm super paranoid now. I need to get something like that George and would be money well spent for peace of mind!

I got my boss to check the shed the other day, didnt worry about the house. Just as long at the ute is still there

[Alitis007]

The alarm is roughly 350 ( or was that my price lol ) then the tracker was about the same plus 100$ a year
With the rate at which these go missing a tracker is a very good idea.
There was a company who wanted to advertise on here with trackers a few years back. Unknown brand from china and asked if I wanted one to try...sure! Plugged it in the charger at work went for a smoke and came back and my desk was smoking, the battery had swelled up and almost caught fire...lol With the amount of thefts happening I'm super paranoid now. I need to get something like that George and would be money well spent for peace of mind!

Oki so i just speaking with my brother and he thinks the viper alarm was $450, the smart start tracker was $150 and there was 3 plans for the tracking system, I THINK it was $65, $99 and $125 but i need to confirm it. If you want Jonathan let me know

[matfew]

hey George I'd be keen on a bit now info of alarm. I was researching gps trackers the othwr night for mine.

[Drewboyaus]

Oki so i just speaking with my brother and he thinks the viper alarm was $450, the smart start tracker was $150 and there was 3 plans for the tracking system, I THINK it was $65, $99 and $125 but i need to confirm it. If you want Jonathan let me know

I might look at one of those too George.....

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner

[Bloodyaussie]

I am not sure George right this moment... my budget is going to be short with the way things are going??

Then there is fitting as a kit like that is pretty full on.

[Alitis007]

hey George I'd be keen on a bit now info of alarm. I was researching gps trackers the othwr night for mine.
I might look at one of those too George..... Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner This is what my bro and i have http://www.vipersecurity.com.au/products/security-with-remote-start/viper-5706vr-responder-2-way-lcd-security-with-remote-start coz we wanted remote start lol, this is the tracker http://www.vipersecurity.com.au/smartstart-vsm250i and we have the 99$ plan

48104


I am not sure George right this moment... my budget is going to be short with the way things are going?? Then there is fitting as a kit like that is pretty full on. Let me put it this way, you've just thrown 10,000$ at your rig wouldn't you want piece of mind that you've made it a little bit harder to pinch and if it has, you can shut it down instantly and also track it within 5 or 10m ?? 48103 When i fist installed it lol

[matfew]

so that system doesn't require a sim card at all? might have to start putting some coin aside I think lol

[Alitis007]

so that system doesn't require a sim card at all? might have to start putting some coin aside I think lol
The "sim" is inbuilt into the smart start thing and you buy the air id as its called every 12months

[MudRunnerTD]

I am seriously thinking about buying a few of these and stashing 3 or 4 on each car. If they steal it they won't find all of them! No power needed. Cheap, no ongoing costs. Great thing

[lucus30]

I am seriously thinking about buying a few of these and stashing 3 or 4 on each car. If they steal it they won't find all of them! No power needed. Cheap, no ongoing costs. Great thing

Buying what?

I am just going to wire in a permanent 5v and connect it to an old android smart phone hidden somewhere in the car. Use the android device manager to GPS track it and the best part is it costs me nothing

[matfew]

still cost you something as you will need a sim card to get reception. don't think you can get a prepaid sim for under 100 a year anymore so it's good value I think.

I will get something fitted to my next work car. I just want to remote start so it's warm when I get in over winter or cold over summer lol. gets bloody cold where I live haha

[lucus30]

still cost you something as you will need a sim card to get reception. don't think you can get a prepaid sim for under 100 a year anymore so it's good value I think.

I will get something fitted to my next work car. I just want to remote start so it's warm when I get in over winter or cold over summer lol. gets bloody cold where I live haha

True but when you don't pay for the sims its cheap. I've got about 6 lying around

[Alitis007]

Remote start is awesome!!! Matty you'll love it trust me haha!!

[Drewboyaus]

Remote start is awesome!!! Matty you'll love it trust me haha!!
Just don't leave it in gear. LOL

Sent from my iPhone using Forum Runner