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Parksy
10th July 2014, 03:47 PM
Hi all
Pulling my hair out trying to work out what's legal and what's not. I've read the latest VSB relevant to my state which states that the vehicle track cannot be increased by more than 25mm, whether it's a fwd car or beam axle 4x4. This has been confirmed by phone calls to the RTA.
I'm curious as to what the biggest negative offset rim was ever fitted to the gq from factory. I've heard -13 before. If this is the case, does this mean that I can then legally run the -20 rims that I'm after(given that they sit within the flares)? This would give a increased track of 14mm.
Is this how it works? Or is there some sort of baseline where the track is taken?
If anyone is in the know, please share your knowledge.
Thanks all
threedogs
10th July 2014, 04:12 PM
If you look side by side from the first MK to the last GO all Nissan did was add a flare to each model
by the end they just put a rubber ext on. smallest rims fitted are a 5.5" and the biggest rim is 16x8
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there was a wide wheel pack for one model GQ that used 15x7 sunnies.
Minus 13 sounds right for std OE mags
menace 2
10th July 2014, 07:20 PM
to answer your question mate.( I think )...the track is measured from the centre of the tyre (or rim on the car) to the centre of the other tyre.(or rim)...the OE track should be in your manual...if that hasn't added more than 25mm ( as you say ).after new tyres.then it should still be legal in your state...you will have to determine just what the minus represents in mm I suppose...
Parksy
11th July 2014, 02:42 PM
Looked in the Haynes manual I've got but can't find any track dimensions. Anyone got any specifications handy?
threedogs
11th July 2014, 03:58 PM
ill go check
according to manual front track on a LWB wagon there are three versions
1555mm tyre size 235/80r/16
1605mm tyre size 275/70r/16 and 265/70r/16
1595mm tyres 7.50 x 16
they are OE tyres fitted
My Bad this is GU only
Parksy
11th July 2014, 04:36 PM
Bugger. Cheers anyway.
threedogs
11th July 2014, 04:46 PM
Bugger. Cheers anyway.
Get your centre to centre and rim offset and compare to other members
as long as you have rim offset you should be in the ball park.
What's your main concern if you go wide and inside your present guards
you should be legal ,shouldn't you
Bit more on the offset the OE 16x8jj
says 10 offset but neither minus or pos
Parksy
12th July 2014, 09:12 AM
According to the law I can only increase the track by no more than 25mm from factory.
So if anyone can confirm the largest negative offset ever fitted to a gq patrol from factory, then I'll have my answer.
Drewboyaus
12th July 2014, 08:27 PM
I would be interested to know the answer to this.
I have a feeling -13 was the largest factory offset as that is what mine has with the factory flares that came with the wider wheels.
I have been considering swapping to -22 on mine. I'm pretty sure 12inch wide tyres on -22 will sit outside the factory flares. Is there any issue with rubbing or interfering with the factory flares running -22 offset if I stuck with my narrower 10.5inch wide tyres?
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Winnie
12th July 2014, 08:48 PM
I would be interested to know the answer to this.
I have a feeling -13 was the largest factory offset as that is what mine has with the factory flares that came with the wider wheels.
I have been considering swapping to -22 on mine. I'm pretty sure 12inch wide tyres on -22 will sit outside the factory flares. Is there any issue with rubbing or interfering with the factory flares running -22 offset if I stuck with my narrower 10.5inch wide tyres?
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Hey drew, I always had 10.5" tyres on my - 22 rims, they sat inside the flares (just) and no rubbing. My new tyres, 12.5" on the same rims sit outside the flares (just) and rub on the flares on flex
threedogs
12th July 2014, 08:55 PM
@ Parksey I'll see what I can find out on Monday.
Any factory offsets and track,
still think inside or level with factory flares would be legal.
If you keep your Patrol neat,, chances are they wont look twice[boys in blue]
Drewboyaus
12th July 2014, 10:49 PM
Hey drew, I always had 10.5" tyres on my - 22 rims, they sat inside the flares (just) and no rubbing. My new tyres, 12.5" on the same rims sit outside the flares (just) and rub on the flares on flex
Champion Winnie! Just the sort if info I was after, thanks.
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sebfox
31st July 2014, 10:06 PM
FYI
According to the VSB NCOP11 Section LS Suspension and Steering V2 the wheel track of off-road four wheel drive vehicles must not be increased by more than 50mm. I am pointing this out as 25mm was mentioned repeatedly in this threat.
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi09_rev4.pdf
MudRunnerTD
31st July 2014, 10:41 PM
FYI
According to the VSB NCOP11 Section LS Suspension and Steering V2 the wheel track of off-road four wheel drive vehicles must not be increased by more than 50mm. I am pointing this out as 25mm was mentioned repeatedly in this threat.
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi09_rev4.pdf
Hi mate, in the link you post it states 26mm. Can you post where it says 50mm for the benefit of the thread please.
Cheers MR
sebfox
31st July 2014, 11:40 PM
Hi mate, in the link you post it states 26mm. Can you post where it says 50mm for the benefit of the thread please.
Cheers MR
Sorry I used the wrong URL.
The VSB document library can be found at:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx
The section about wheeltrack can be found in the PDF file:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP11_Section_LS_Tyres_Suspension_Steering_V2_1Ja n_2011%20v3.pdf
Have a look at section 4.2.11
Cheers
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