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elmo4eva
6th May 2014, 04:09 PM
Hey all just wo dering on how to put relays on the headlights

the evil twin
6th May 2014, 04:18 PM
Hey all just wo dering on how to put relays on the headlights

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/search.php?searchid=3752356

elmo4eva
6th May 2014, 05:33 PM
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/search.php?searchid=3752356

It says it cant find it

catchinjack
7th May 2014, 08:28 AM
Yup link dead.

elmo4eva
7th May 2014, 11:01 AM
So does any have instructions on putting relays on the head lights

the evil twin
7th May 2014, 11:04 AM
It says it cant find it


Yup link dead.

(sigh)
If thats the case you have two options...
You can wait for me to redo the search
or
You can save some time by going to the search window (top right) and typing in "GQ Headlight relay" and read the results yourself

If it was me after the info I would choose the latter.

Really Guys...
Yes, I am being sarcastic so please forgive me, but going your own quick search rather than posting up that a Forum link is dead is a tad more logical for everyone.

catchinjack
7th May 2014, 01:39 PM
I was also being sarcastic, thanks bud.

elmo4eva
11th June 2014, 05:08 PM
So does anyone have schematics for headlight relays

mudski
11th June 2014, 08:27 PM
Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gq+patrol+headlight+wiring+diagram)



Should be plenty of info there that you could use. Thought the Q's would already run relays...

elmo4eva
11th June 2014, 08:43 PM
Let me google that for you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gq+patrol+headlight+wiring+diagram)



Should be plenty of info there that you could use. Thought the Q's would already run relays...

Ok bid yer mine hasn't got any bud

mudski
11th June 2014, 08:52 PM
Ok bid yer mine hasn't got any bud

o.k then, let me google this for you... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gq+patrol+headlight+relay)
Seriously I can't believe they don't. The headlight switch would just burn out if it didn't...

Family4x4
11th June 2014, 09:29 PM
o.k then, let me google this for you... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gq+patrol+headlight+relay)
Seriously I can't believe they don't. The headlight switch would just burn out if it didn't...

They don't.

I think elmo is looking for some help. I couldn't find a definitive thread on this site through the search bar...?

Family4x4
11th June 2014, 09:31 PM
I did find the loom below on ebay which may help?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Patrol-Gq-make-your-lights-bright-again-harness-/191205814910?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c84c1327e&_uhb=1

elmo4eva
11th June 2014, 09:53 PM
Thanks fellas for the effort in helping me Maby sometime in the future we all go 4x4ing

mudski
11th June 2014, 11:09 PM
They don't.

I think elmo is looking for some help. I couldn't find a definitive thread on this site through the search bar...?

My second post is a google search that came up with the answers. I find it very odd that the Q's don't have relays but we learn something everyday don't we.
Google is an amazing thing...

Clunk
11th June 2014, 11:18 PM
My second post is a google search that came up with the answers. I find it very odd that the Q's don't have relays but we learn something everyday don't we.
Google is an amazing thing...

It is an amazing thing but those who are less computer savvy may not realise that what you posted was a link to your search results......... Not having a pop, just saying is all

mudski
11th June 2014, 11:52 PM
Hairy muff...

Yendor
12th June 2014, 06:58 PM
My second post is a google search that came up with the answers. I find it very odd that the Q's don't have relays but we learn something everyday don't we.
Google is an amazing thing...

Yeah, The GQs don't have factory fitted headlight relays nor do the GUs.

the evil twin
12th June 2014, 09:06 PM
Yeah, The GQs don't have factory fitted headlight relays nor do the GUs.

Thats done it, you've gone and let the Cat outa the bag... there's no going back now, Rodney

Yendor
12th June 2014, 09:59 PM
Thats done it, you've gone and let the Cat outa the bag... there's no going back now, Rodney

OMG what have I done..........:biggrin:

Maybe moving forward is the better way to go.......:wink:

the evil twin
12th June 2014, 10:06 PM
OMG what have I done..........:biggrin:

Maybe moving forward is the better way to go.......:wink:

I'd be moving somewhere.
A whole bunch of people are gunna be pissed when they find out.

Yendor
12th June 2014, 10:13 PM
I'd be moving somewhere.
A whole bunch of people are gunna be pissed when they find out.

I hear you mate..........such is life.

mudski
12th June 2014, 11:28 PM
Yeah, The GQs don't have factory fitted headlight relays nor do the GUs.

Well bugger me. I didn't know that either....

Robo
13th June 2014, 04:49 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I guess the GU's factory fitted H/ Lamp Relay under the bonnet is for something else lol,
Sorry mate, but you must be looking at something else.
Just looked at it, and the relay box is clearly depicted as having a H/Lamp relay.
I'm sure GQ has one also from factory.
Have another look brother, cheers.

the evil twin
13th June 2014, 09:30 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I guess the GU's factory fitted H/ Lamp Relay under the bonnet is for something else lol,
Sorry mate, but you must be looking at something else.
Just looked at it, and the relay box is clearly depicted as having a H/Lamp relay.
I'm sure GQ has one also from factory.
Have another look brother, cheers.

... have you taken the Relay Box cover off and had a look?

Unless you have a fitment different to what I have seen, which is entirely possible, there might be a few less components inside that box than you think.

AFAIK those references to Relays you see marked on the lid are for vehicles with factory Xenon/HID

Also, GQ's (well Aussie ones at least) do not have factory relays.
That is why their combination switches burn out/carbon up and why I get to have so much fun helping mates put in aftermarket looms

clubbyr8
14th June 2014, 11:39 AM
Definitely no relay under the cover of my GU 7.

Looking at the wiring diagram there is a set of switch contacts for each headlight, fed by a separate 15A fuse, so 5A through each set of contacts at 12v when on high beam. It shouldn't be an issue for the switch. Anyone heard of switch failures because of this???

the evil twin
14th June 2014, 04:57 PM
Definitely no relay under the cover of my GU 7.

Looking at the wiring diagram there is a set of switch contacts for each headlight, fed by a separate 15A fuse, so 5A through each set of contacts at 12v when on high beam. It shouldn't be an issue for the switch. Anyone heard of switch failures because of this???

The GQ's are renowned for problems but only after quite a few years.
There are quite a lot of threads on here (maybe 20 or more) on the issue and I usually tell people to
a) clean/replace the combination switch
b) turf the sealed beams as far as they can if they haven't already and replace with decent semi-sealed and globes
c) pop in a set of relays, altho that is optional (the pre-made looms are waaaay expensive IMHO but if people don't have the experience to wire relays they are an option)

The GU's have a different combination switch and do not seem to have anything like the problems ergo I've never pulled one apart to see if they have better insides.

Robo
14th June 2014, 05:06 PM
Ok just went and checked as it was raining yesterday.
GQ only has a fog lamp relay, honest mistake, got em mixed up.

But as I did look at GU.
2002 GUtd42 "st plus" has H/Lamp relay,
also printed on relay box cover as I mentioned.

go figure, maybe the plus sticker on back door has something to do with it
know this one also has larger radiator like 3lt engine.
seems nissan do makes em different.

Yendor
14th June 2014, 05:29 PM
Ok just went and checked as it was raining yesterday.
GQ only has a fog lamp relay, honest mistake, got em mixed up.

But as I did look at GU.
2002 GUtd42 "st plus" has H/Lamp relay,
also printed on relay box cover as I mentioned.

go figure, maybe the plus sticker on back door has something to do with it
know this one also has larger radiator like 3lt engine.
seems nissan do makes em different.

The GU relay box cover has at least 3 head lamp relay positions printed on the cover. It also has a few different options listed for other relays in the same position.

Did you remove the relay to confirm your head lights stopped working?

I think you will find that relay is for the corning lamps.

Sorry it's nothing to do with the plus sticker

the evil twin
14th June 2014, 09:05 PM
Ok just went and checked as it was raining yesterday.
GQ only has a fog lamp relay, honest mistake, got em mixed up.

But as I did look at GU.
2002 GUtd42 "st plus" has H/Lamp relay,
also printed on relay box cover as I mentioned.

go figure, maybe the plus sticker on back door has something to do with it
know this one also has larger radiator like 3lt engine.
seems nissan do makes em different.

Every GU I have seen has "Head Lamp Relay/s" printed on the relay box cover.
None of the GU's I have lifted the cover on actually has them fitted.
I have a series 1 and a series 5 ST parked in my driveway.
Both have the exact same cover and both indicate there are positions for Headlamp relays but neither has the relays fitted

The factory manual states those relays are only fitted for xenon/HID variants. If you do have a GU with working Headlamp Relays I can only assume that the vehicle was not wired for Australia but ended up here somehow so it will be 1 in 1,000 or more odds.

If you do have relays in those usually vacant spots I, like Rodney, would be really interested to see if the headlamps do turn off or if they are for another option.
Not having a shot, just very curious as I help out a lot of people with faults whenever I can so very interested

MudRunnerTD
15th June 2014, 01:15 PM
Seriously you guys Know Stuff!!!

Blows me away the Brains Trust this place provides! i wonder how many times a Nissan Mechanic has google searched a problem and found the answers here??

Robo
15th June 2014, 03:39 PM
The GU relay box cover has at least 3 head lamp relay positions printed on the cover. It also has a few different options listed for other relays in the same position.

Did you remove the relay to confirm your head lights stopped working?

I think you will find that relay is for the corning lamps.

Sorry it's nothing to do with the plus sticker

No I didn't remove relay plug, but will if ya like.
Tony, simply remember relay on cover, and lifting cover to see a installed relay that's all.
all good .
well that's all I need to know now.
looks like I will be up grading to a relay for sure, was considering it any way.
now at least I'm not going to be doubling up relays.
And FYI I did install +100% H4's,
& was disappointed with no increase in output so OEM cable size is a problem it seems.

off thread "but what's the { Plus, Limited Addition } actually for please?".
I can't see anything more special. no cruise, no intercooler.
has central locking power windows and carpet,
arm rests on seats.
is that the plus? Arm rests! wow what a plus.

well I just pulled relay and it not for cornering lights either, they still work without relay.
and to be a real pain the bs, cornering relay slot is empty.