MudRunnerTD's GQ From the Ground Up

[Winnie]

I thought the 80 bump stops were going to be no good to you?

Got sick of Motorculture so gone back to Tappa

[NissanGQ4.2]

Daz how did you determine what length bump stops you needed???

[MudRunnerTD]

I thought the 80 bump stops were going to be no good to you?

Got sick of Motorculture so gone back to Tappa

Yes by themselves they are too short.

But. The Nissan base adds another 25mm plus the bump stop at 80mm fully compressed I had 105mm and needed 150mm total.

The bump stops fully compressed at80mm had already taken a fair hit to compress to that though.

So I made a bottom block and added it to the bump plate

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Looks sweet and a good combined length

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Now just need to check the front and flex her up!!


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[MudRunnerTD]

Daz how did you determine what length bump stops you needed???

Hey Todd,

Go back 2 pages to post number 759 on page 76 mate and have a look at what I did

[Ben-e-boy]

Have you flexed it up yet? Is that lower bump stop wide enough, mine are the width of the factory plate and only just touch, If mine were that width they would miss

[MudRunnerTD]

Have you flexed it up yet? Is that lower bump stop wide enough, mine are the width of the factory plate and only just touch, If mine were that width they would miss

Hmmmmm! Well that Sux! No and I will certainly be having a look when I get a chance mate.

On straight down compression which I think is where most of the damage has happened I think they will be fine. Bloody Whoopdy Doos mate are a killer at speed.

I'll let you know for sure mate

[Winnie]

I hate whoopdy doos! Was riding with my mate in his Daihatsu F20 and a whoopdy doo came out of nowhere, we got air big time and bounced back up on two wheels, back doors flew open and his stuff rolled out everywhere and we both had BIG headaches after that one. Was funny as FARK though!

[MudRunnerTD]

I hate whoopdy doos! Was riding with my mate in his Daihatsu F20 and a whoopdy doo came out of nowhere, we got air big time and bounced back up on two wheels, back doors flew open and his stuff rolled out everywhere and we both had BIG headaches after that one. Was funny as FARK though!

We'll find a few Whoopdy Doos up the Snow trip mate. cant wait

[nissannewby]

Hmmmmm! Well that Sux! No and I will certainly be having a look when I get a chance mate.

On straight down compression which I think is where most of the damage has happened I think they will be fine. Bloody Whoopdy Doos mate are a killer at speed.

I'll let you know for sure mate

Yeah the bumpstops line up if the whole axle moves vertically as one. When one wheel compressors and the other extends they are out by a little bit.

[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah the bumpstops line up if the whole axle moves vertically as one. When one wheel compressors and the other extends they are out by a little bit.

Yeah I can't wait to flex this thing and see how well it does its thing! Bring on Licola!

[Safari Njema]

Thanks for these amazing photos which beggar belief!

[Bloodyaussie]

Thanks for these amazing photos which beggar belief!

Of course it does as none of it is real..... the car does not exist and is but a fantasy in Darrens head!!!!!!

[Winnie]

He'd better hurry up and buy a GQ before our trip to keep the myth alive.

Motorculture... Let's try this again!

[Ben-e-boy]

Of course it does as none of it is real..... the car does not exist and is but a fantasy in Darrens head!!!!!!


He'd better hurry up and buy a GQ before our trip to keep the myth alive.

Motorculture... Let's try this again!


His Gq doesn't want to waste time with other inferior GQ's, it takes the presence of another tough, worthy GQ (mine) to bring it out hahaha

[Bloodyaussie]

Oh you did not just say that Benny!!!!!!!!

I cant wait to see any of these trucks in action it should be a whole lot of fun....

[rusty_nail]

Oh you did not just say that Benny!!!!!!!!

I cant wait to see any of these trucks in action it should be a whole lot of fun....

yep and i cant wait either to see all these tough trucks! ill be safely watching from the drivers seat of mine when stuff gets a bit crazy lol

[Ben-e-boy]

Oh you did not just say that Benny!!!!!!!!

I cant wait to see any of these trucks in action it should be a whole lot of fun....

Technically no. Thought it and typed it

[93patrol]

And then they break something in the first 50m of track. (Hope not) and it cans the trip.


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[MudRunnerTD]

And then they break something in the first 50m of track. (Hope not) and it cans the trip.


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I have broken a Short Side axle in the first 50m of a night drive 4 hours from home!! Limped into a Bush camp around 1am and swapped it out in the rain. Smashed the Long Side CV in the first 100m of the first track the following morning! Lucky i carried spares ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

Bene the boys down here will see the GQ for the August snow trip. Hopefully i dont brake t and you can play with it in October!

[Ben-e-boy]

Bene the boys down here will see the GQ for the August snow trip. Hopefully i dont brake t and you can play with it in October!

You ruin all my fun lol

[rusty_nail]

I have broken a Short Side axle in the first 50m of a night drive 4 hours from home!! Limped into a Bush camp around 1am and swapped it out in the rain. Smashed the Long Side CV in the first 100m of the first track the following morning! Lucky i carried spares ;)

wow you come prepared! carrying spare axles and wot not! thats preparation at its finest

[MudRunnerTD]

wow you come prepared! carrying spare axles and wot not! thats preparation at its finest



I carry a Spare Long and Short side CV and Axle permanently packed with Grease, wrapped in Plastic and Ziptied to the Cargo barrier out of the way. Its when you have used both before Lunch on the Saturday that you start to be a little more sympathetic to the car ;)

[mudnut]

I carry a Spare Long and Short side CV and Axle permanently packed with Grease, wrapped in Plastic and Ziptied to the Cargo barrier out of the way. Its when you have used both before Lunch on the Saturday that you start to be a little more sympathetic to the car ;)

Come on, be honest, MR, it's your wallet, you become sympathetic, too, not the car, otherwise why buy a Q. Theyr'e made to be abused!!::clapping:

[MudRunnerTD]

Come on, be honest, MR, it's your wallet, you become sympathetic, too, not the car, otherwise why buy a Q. Theyr'e made to be abused!!::clapping:

Lol. Nah mate once you have broken an axle then smashed the CV on the other side in the first 12 hours of an extreme weekend the last thing I wanted to do was break another half way up some stupid steep hill in Noojee. The wallet felt it later though for sure!

After that outing I bought the GU diffs with the bigger CVs. Better not break these!

I have a spare set of GU long and short tied to the cargo barrier now though ;)

[Gregsway]

MuddrunnerTD - big up to you dude thats the best thread i have ever read!

[jjgq89]

Awsome thread mate great reading so many handy hints throughout

[nissannewby]

Well heading into the Gates of Hell tonight! In the Dark!

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Ummmmm......... getting a little Edgy! see yas on the other side!

Hey daz someone is on Facebook saying the first pic in this sequence is fake lol. Sharee showed me as I don't have Facebook so I came here and showed her it was the real deal :D

[AB]

Can you get us a link?


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[nissannewby]

Insane patrol Facebook group she says

[AB]

Darren actually cut his car in half and sat it in a 1 foot hole...lol


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[MudRunnerTD]

Hey daz someone is on Facebook saying the first pic in this sequence is fake lol. Sharee showed me as I don't have Facebook so I came here and showed her it was the real deal :D

Really! Then they are Fark Wits who don't really know Insane!

Bhawwaaaaaaaa

Gotta go find it ;)

[AB]

https://www.facebook.com/InsanePatrol

[Ben-e-boy]

There is a guy claiming it is his, I stuck up for ya, mine is the last comment

[nissannewby]

$&@!ing Facebook just reinforces why I don't have it lol.

[growler2058]

There is a guy claiming it is his, I stuck up for ya, mine is the last comment

Go an sort the effers out Dazzla. Bummer times like this I wish I was on face ache

[Ben-e-boy]

Really........ doh

[AB]

There is a guy claiming it is his, I stuck up for ya, mine is the last comment
I don't use Facebook but I just liked your comment using the misses account. I better not write on that page or she'll shoot me...lol

[Winnie]

There is a guy claiming it is his, I stuck up for ya, mine is the last comment

Maybe it is his and Darren stole all his pics from this guy. Would make sense really.

Motorculture... Let's try this again!

[AB]

Couldn't help myself....Replied.

[MudRunnerTD]

Nah all good guys. Mick is a good friend of mine and his car was right behind mine gong in that hole. His is very light Gold colour, mine Is White and I have no pics of ine in the hole but took those of mick going in the hole.

I lived it. I drove it. I claim it.

Bloody mick has a hole file of pics of my car going in that hole I gotta get off him.

[nissannewby]

Yeah I was more worried about someone calling it fake.

[MudRunnerTD]

There is a guy claiming it is his, I stuck up for ya, mine is the last comment


Good on you Bene, appreciate you stepping in bud. LMFAO! Now go and apologise sh1tbag. Mick is a good mate ya wally!

[MudRunnerTD]

Most of those comments from Kelly onwards are a group of hard core guys I drive with in Geelong. Bloody pisstakers.

[AB]

Just blame it on Dazz benny, he was trying to claim that was him on this forum, I also wrote an abusive message and then saw Darren's post here so deleted mine. Plus it was my misses account...lol


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[MudRunnerTD]

Just blame it on Dazz benny, he was trying to claim that was him on this forum, I also wrote an abusive message and then saw Darren's post here so deleted mine. Plus it was my misses account...lol


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Nah I'm gunna blame that Ben bloke ;)

[Ben-e-boy]

Nah I'm gunna blame that Ben bloke ;)

What a c%ck head he is hahahahahahahaha

[MudRunnerTD]

Maybe it is his and Darren stole all his pics from this guy. Would make sense really.

Motorculture... Let's try this again!


It just reinforces the myth that the GQ is FAKE ;) it's all a lie I tell you! Lies lies lies.

[Clunk]

It just reinforces the myth that the GQ is FAKE ;) it's all a lie I tell you! Lies lies lies.

Well I'm disappointed MR, fancy making a build thread using someone else's pictures and claiming all this hard work was all yours, when in fact it was someone else's.................... shame on you!!!!!!!!!! ;)

My folks went to the Google Play Store and all they got me was this lousy Motorculture App!!!!!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Well I'm disappointed MR, fancy making a build thread using someone else's pictures and claiming all this hard work was all yours, when in fact it was someone else's.................... shame on you!!!!!!!!!! ;)

My folks went to the Google Play Store and all they got me was this lousy Motorculture App!!!!!!!



LOL! Yeah Cheers Clunk! kinda a little embarrassed damn it!

at the end of the day there is a total of 3 pics in this thread that are not my car and its those 3. I was the second car through that hole behind the car you can see the front on pic of which i have already declared was not me at that point in the thread. The car in the pics going in and at the bottom of that hole was the car behind me. I winched through then got out and went back and took those Farking Insane pics of his!!. He has pics of mine in the same position and i have never been able to grab a copy. Waiting Waiting ;)

At the end of the day his car was at that time was Identical to mine in every way including the same roof light rack other than his is a light champaign Gold colour. You cant even pic the colour difference in the pics ;)

I drove it, I Lived it, The GQ ate it, I owned it ;) Happy days

[AB]

That could of turned feral on that FB page...lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Well just ordered a 55w HID kit for a pair of IPF Extremes to fit up to the front of the GQ to give me some frontal distance. With the LED Light bar they will be awesome.

Also just ordered a GU Steering Box. Should arrive tomorrow and will fit it up this weekend. Got a big weekend coming.

[nissannewby]

You will like that. I know my 50w HID XGT's shine further than I can see I just need more spread now :)

[MudRunnerTD]

You will like that. I know my 50w HID XGT's shine further than I can see I just need more spread now :)

I have 50W XGT HID on the GUIV and they are insane so 50w for the GQ should be heaps. i ummmed and arrrred about going to a 75w or even a 100w but the price doubled then quadrupled and will suck the guts out of the batteries so went with the 50w and think they will be great.

[MudRunnerTD]

woooooo hoooooo! the Gu Steering box has just arrived! Now to fine time to fit it this weekend! Its only a short list ........ Really it is......



Finish the Flares,
Design, make and fit the Mudflaps. These ones will last more than a single drive damn it!!
Fit the new Steering box.
wire up and fit the Switch, relay and wiring for the spot lights waiting for the HID kit and so i just need o fit the lights when they arrive
Rebuild the Himount and then fit it to the car
Clean the inside of the car
finish the bog up of the rear quarter panel and blow a little paint over it
roll out the swag and add some more insulation to under the mattress.
make sure my Diff Breathers are fully connected after the diff swap and that my lockers are functioning correctly.
Pack the car
look after the 2 kids as the wife is working full shifts all weekend


Buckleys!!

[nissannewby]

Send it up here ill work on it and test drive it for you. A word of warning though it will end up with hybrid super flex arms and long arms.

[MudRunnerTD]

Send it up here ill work on it and test drive it for you. A word of warning though it will end up with hybrid super flex arms and long arms.

Pm me your postal address and ill call the courier Truck!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

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Camp!

[MudRunnerTD]

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[MudRunnerTD]

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[MudRunnerTD]

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[taslucas]

The pics with the bikes in them have the same type if tracks that we drive here. Hundreds of k's of them all around my area. Slick clay and over grown forestry tracks, water bars on hills and tight corners onto steep long clay hills, My favourite driving.

[MudRunnerTD]

The pics with the bikes in them have the same type if tracks that we drive here. Hundreds of k's of them all around my area. Slick clay and over grown forestry tracks, water bars on hills and tight corners onto steep long clay hills, My favourite driving.

Seriously need to organise a West Coast Tassie Trip!!

[Winnie]

The pics with the bikes in them have the same type if tracks that we drive here. Hundreds of k's of them all around my area. Slick clay and over grown forestry tracks, water bars on hills and tight corners onto steep long clay hills, My favourite driving.

You'd like it in my area then, they are all just like that too.

[NissanGQ4.2]

You'd like it in my area then, they are all just like that too.

You all would hate my area, there is literally thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hectares at my back door step but illegal to 4wd or dirt bikes for anything other then a dirt track a 2wd could drive down easily :(:(:( Welcome 2 the Blue Mountains National Park where you can do ABSOLUTELY SWEET F!CK ALL! Still need to travel 2hrs just to go somewhere legal :(:(:(

[Winnie]

You all would hate my area, there is literally thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hectares at my back door step but illegal to 4wd or dirt bikes for anything other then a dirt track a 2wd could drive down easily :(:(:( Welcome 2 the Blue Mountains National Park where you can do ABSOLUTELY SWEET F!CK ALL! Still need to travel 2hrs just to go somewhere legal :(:(:(

Are you serious? What a waste!

[MudRunnerTD]

You all would hate my area, there is literally thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hectares at my back door step but illegal to 4wd or dirt bikes for anything other then a dirt track a 2wd could drive down easily :(:(:( Welcome 2 the Blue Mountains National Park where you can do ABSOLUTELY SWEET F!CK ALL! Still need to travel 2hrs just to go somewhere legal :(:(:(


Are you serious? What a waste!

The same deal in the Otways! nothing worth driving in there unless your of the grid. most has been permanently shut or made into a Blue Diamond Track.

Our Club ran an event in the Otways every year for many many years and catered for Easy, Medium, Hard and Extreme. about 4 years ago we had to relocate tot he Mt Cole area as there was simply nothing left to drive beyond Easy Medium.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Are you serious? What a waste!

OK maybe hr n half but with all the road works they have been doing on our hwy for the last 20 years it really does take 2hrs

Just did a screen capture of where I am to show you the National Parks I have around me, I can drive not even 10mins away and be in a national park :(

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The same deal in the Otways! nothing worth driving in there unless your of the grid. most has been permanently shut or made into a Blue Diamond Track.

Our Club ran an event in the Otways every year for many many years and catered for Easy, Medium, Hard and Extreme. about 4 years ago we had to relocate tot he Mt Cole area as there was simply nothing left to drive beyond Easy Medium.

Yeh its a shame, all of the tracks around my way have been closed, the only way you will go offroad here is with a portable angle grinder / bolt cutters and do it illegally, which I don't believe helps our cause so won't do.

Excuse my lack of knowledge but what is a blue diamond track?

And sorry for the hijack off your thread *L*

[MudRunnerTD]

Excuse my lack of knowledge but what is a blue diamond track?


About 4 years ago we rolled out a Track Classification system in Victoria. then the DSE and Parks vic ran out of money and it all got put in a Drawer. Unfortunately they really missed an opportunity to engage the 4x4 community as their classification system went from Green, Blue, Black Double Black, from memory. the problem is that the Double Black is where we want to Start not finish! and it did not take much to make a track into a Double Black. it was a Mess. Because the system ends at double Black there is simply no way of grading say a Double Black (DB) level 1 track (Just a DB) that you'd get through if you were trying hard enough in an AWD Soft Roader and the Extreme end at say DB9 where there should be an obstruction that requires a certain level of vehicle and driver to attempt even to get on the track.

They chose to leve it as just DB! I lobbied hard to ad the numerical grading to the DB to give the system some level of perspective but they were not listening! What they Wanted! and what they Got was a system that would allow them to provide an Iconic 4WD Track system in Victoria that could be graded as Blue and allow every Mum and Dad in their AWD Territories to tackle with the kids on the weekends! What a Waste.

So i am a Certified Track Classifier. Did the Course. Got the certificate. Never got off the ground.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Gotcha, have never heard of a track classification system for dse / parks, shame it never got off the ground

I have a mate thats right into Mountain Bike riding esp downhill riding, we use to live next door to each other a couple of suburbs away from where I am now, there is some bushland that goes down the mountain side just down the road which over the years got turned into a downhill track about 1 year ago now council came along and erected no mountain bike riding signs on the track!. He has worked long and hard to get permission off council to find somewhere local and finally got permission to built a track at another location that wasn't 2 far away. Mind you this was one area that was closed down to 4wd access many years ago

Its not just four wheel drivers coping it these days!

[Winnie]

About 4 years ago we rolled out a Track Classification system in Victoria. then the DSE and Parks vic ran out of money and it all got put in a Drawer. Unfortunately they really missed an opportunity to engage the 4x4 community as their classification system went from Green, Blue, Black Double Black, from memory. the problem is that the Double Black is where we want to Start not finish! and it did not take much to make a track into a Double Black. it was a Mess. Because the system ends at double Black there is simply no way of grading say a Double Black (DB) level 1 track (Just a DB) that you'd get through if you were trying hard enough in an AWD Soft Roader and the Extreme end at say DB9 where there should be an obstruction that requires a certain level of vehicle and driver to attempt even to get on the track.

They chose to leve it as just DB! I lobbied hard to ad the numerical grading to the DB to give the system some level of perspective but they were not listening! What they Wanted! and what they Got was a system that would allow them to provide an Iconic 4WD Track system in Victoria that could be graded as Blue and allow every Mum and Dad in their AWD Territories to tackle with the kids on the weekends! What a Waste.

So i am a Certified Track Classifier. Did the Course. Got the certificate. Never got off the ground.

Well with your certification, what would you rate Barkly river Jeep tk?

[MudRunnerTD]

Well with your certification, what would you rate Barkly river Jeep tk?

Well the System will certify it as a Double Black Track! If they adopted a numerical scale of DB1 through to DB10 being the most extreme I reckon BRJT would be about a DB6 or DB7 because its drivable without a winch stage.

[Winnie]

Go with 7,thats means I've done a DB7 on all terrains without winching lmao

[taslucas]

Go with 7,thats means I've done a DB7 on all terrains without winching lmao

which clearly shows the ranking system is totally flawed! lmao

[Winnie]

which clearly shows the ranking system is totally flawed! lmao

And Kriso got up in a completely stock, unlifted, skinny tired maverick!

[taslucas]

And Kriso got up in a completely stock, unlifted, skinny tired maverick!

which shows that obviously fords are better than nissans!

[MudRunnerTD]

Go with 7,thats means I've done a DB7 on all terrains without winching lmao


which clearly shows the ranking system is totally flawed! lmao

Clearly!

And the ranking system was always on an assumed Dry Track. So Brewry would be a BD6 too and drivable in the dry with ATs on but a 3 or 4 stage winch in the wet! How do you put that on a sign!

[Winnie]

I attempted it in the wet. Got 50m up and went to set the winch up and had a think about it, the cars that were with me were certainly not up to the task! So we backed down (which was a mission in itself)

[taslucas]

Clearly!

And the ranking system was always on an assumed Dry Track. So Brewry would be a BD6 too and drivable in the dry with ATs on but a 3 or 4 stage winch in the wet! How do you put that on a sign!

going through a similar thing with a mate at the moment. He just got a dual cab hilux (yeah i know) and ive taken him on pretty much the same few tracks in the same area 3 weekends in a row. First weekend he said "these things are way better than patrols, it goes anywhere!" (i didnt have the heart to tell him i was taking all the easiest tracks and it was fairly dry) and each weekend since its been raining flat out and getting slowy harder and harder. We are going out tomorrow and i plan on having a proper play (because two other trol mates are coming to help me out if bogged lol) and old mate in the hilux is gonna have a hard time of it i reckon:)

[MudRunnerTD]

Fitted up the GU steering box today and fixed the front locker and front breather before the rain arrived.

[AB]

Seriously need to organise a West Coast Tassie Trip!!

I'm keen for this...

[Winnie]

I'm keen for this...

Same here for sure

[MudRunnerTD]

Well its bloody cold out side! Just refitted the Rebuild Himount and it works and is ready for Rope! New 6hp motor, Full brake shaft rebuild kit, lower housing rebuild kit, sand blast and a paint. Looks neat.

To save me unbolting the front bar to fit it in i have to fit it in 2 pieces. Top hat off. bolt up the bottom half then fit the top hat and motor. Of course it starts raining between bolting the bottom up and fitting the top hat. Head Torch on, out with the Umbrella and she'll be right mate. Damn i need a Shed the GQ will fit in!! Killing me!

Gathered all my camping gear and recovery gear and insulated the swag ready for the Snow trip this weekend. Still got allot to do but 1 day at a time. Time for a shower and Bed.

[Lights]

Darren, did you end up fitting a Gigglepin brake shaft or the original one?

[rusty_nail]

Seriously need to organise a West Coast Tassie Trip!!

i would be in for this! its only 1000k's to melb! then boat, im pretty sure it would be amazing!

[MudRunnerTD]

Nah the original one with the tapped end. It survived the trip well given what it had to do. It was stripped out 3 times and fitted to Gary's car to get him out too!

I replaced the end bearing on it though, the one in the lower housing casing. That was a Bitch to get out!

[MudRunnerTD]

Just been to the post office!! Picked up the 50w HID kit for the IPFs for the front of the GQ. Been a few years since I bought HIDs! Wow I can't believe how small the kits and the Ballasts have got!!!

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Under $50 from Hong Kong ordered on Friday! Got the note in the letterbox on Monday!!

[MudRunnerTD]

On the end of the list of things to do but if I get this kit fitted up I will be stoked!

[taslucas]

I have two mates running hid retro fitted into GU 1 and they both have had a pretty bad run. I'm unsure of the brands they've used. One guy had a cheap brand and had to rreplace the ballast twice so then forked out more for an expensive brand and that developed an intermittent fault after a while.
Have you had any problems with hid's? And do you think that brand you got above will prove itself?
Id like to get some hids but I'm worried they would fail when I'm from home!

[Lights]

I think Darren's putting them in some driving lights so not a huge issue of failing when away from home as he'll still have his headlights.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with HID's in headlights for a number of reasons. The two main ones being, more attention from Police and having a ballast issue causing one or possibly two of your headlights to not work.
One of the other issues is, the majority of headlights are not designed to run a HID bulb and emit spurious light which is not pleasant for oncoming traffic or at times the driver of the vehicle with reflections off signs etc.

[Winnie]

Lucas, I've got HID headlights with a polycarb diffuser. In the car when I bought it but never had a drama with them and they are aimed down and I have never been flashed by anybody coming the other way. I do find myself turning them off as much as I can when driving through towns so police don't notice but that being said I've driven past plenty of police before and no dramas.

[liftlid]

I have two mates running hid retro fitted into GU 1 and they both have had a pretty bad run. I'm unsure of the brands they've used. One guy had a cheap brand and had to rreplace the ballast twice so then forked out more for an expensive brand and that developed an intermittent fault after a while.
Have you had any problems with hid's? And do you think that brand you got above will prove itself?
Id like to get some hids but I'm worried they would fail when I'm from home!

I have run hid headlights for 5 years without a problem purchased off Internet. The only reason I have taken them off is the police issue. They have done the gibb, tanami, oonadatta, birds vile, tracks and plenty of high country river crossings over bonnet high about 200,000 km in total, I did carry spare headlight globes to put in if they did fail but never needed to use them, you will need to adjust your headlights to not blind other drivers. Oh and I just put the same kit in a set of driving lights to try out this weekend.

[Winnie]

Is yours a daily driver Gary? Did you ever have a trouble with the police or were you just worried about it?

[liftlid]

Is yours a daily driver Gary? Did you ever have a trouble with the police or were you just worried about it?

Yes mine is a daily driver, took them out as I heard the Mansfield police were pulling over all 4x4's in town and doing roadworthy's on them, I no longer go to Mansfield though. I like to keep my car a bit of a sleeper, also just worked out it was 7 years not 5 , best lights I ever had.

[taslucas]

I think Darren's putting them in some driving lights so not a huge issue of failing when away from home as he'll still have his headlights.
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That sounds like a better idea. Is that what you're doing Darren? If so,it would be good to see a few pics of the finished product

[MudRunnerTD]

Sorry been busy, yeah have talk them out of my headlight for the police issue.

These are going in a pair of IPF lights for the front and I will take some pics for sure.

[liftlid]

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Will give it a test run tonight

[PMC]

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/

Camp!

Good onya Darren!

Farkkkk, that looks to cold for me! lol

PS, you will have to come up to Coffs Harbour mate! I will show you around the place with nissannewby and friends!

Regards,

RLI

[liftlid]

I have tested the headlights and driving lights and here are the photos,
haven't aimed them yet as car was unloaded.
photo 1: 55w halogen low beam (narva intense)
photo 2: 55w low beam /35w HID low beam
photo 3: 65w halogen high beam
photo 4: 65w high beam/ 35w HID High beam.

As you can see there is a big difference between standard halogen and HID.
Something to consider when travelling at night in Camel country.
I would say that HID is not required in the city though.

[MudRunnerTD]

Fitted up the HID kits last night and the Ballast in one of the lights was faulty damn it!! a Night in the Cold already Sick and the bloody thing is faulty!!! in all the kits i have bought this is the first time one has failed. Its the first time i have used a Slimline ballast though.

[liftlid]

Fitted up the HID kits last night and the Ballast in one of the lights was faulty damn it!! a Night in the Cold already Sick and the bloody thing is faulty!!! in all the kits i have bought this is the first time one has failed. Its the first time i have used a Slimline ballast though.

Jacar geelong sell HID kits etc

[MudRunnerTD]

Jacar geelong sell HID kits etc

Went in there today and nothing. Got an email from the seller asking me to pay to send them back so when I get time I will go in swinging there.

Running out of time! I have converted the IPFs back to halogen and am fitting them up. Better than nothing.

I'm sick but here is my commitment!

Shelter MR style!!

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[liftlid]

Went in there today and nothing. Got an email from the seller asking me to pay to send them back so when I get time I will go in swinging there.

Running out of time! I have converted the IPFs back to halogen and am fitting them up. Better than nothing.

I'm sick but here is my commitment!

Shelter MR style!!

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That's a classic!

[Alitis007]

Went in there today and nothing. Got an email from the seller asking me to pay to send them back so when I get time I will go in swinging there.

Running out of time! I have converted the IPFs back to halogen and am fitting them up. Better than nothing.

I'm sick but here is my commitment!

Shelter MR style!!

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That could be a permanent mod ther Darren for when you have to strip out the winch lol

[Vmax]

hey Mudrunner, just found this. awesome, just what i needed - respect, thats a lot of work :) - i plan to fix the radiator up front parallel to and if possible in front of the engine radiator. my engine runs pretty cool so i dont think (and hope) this additional hot air will upset that too much. just one question did you use the original throttle body and is it mounted between the intake manifold and the intercooler, coz i dont seem to recognise it.
tc

[Ben-e-boy]

I just saw the gq on 4wd pro tips getting the amada shocks put in.

[Winnie]

Darren ended up bringing the GU to camp... Apparently he had "last minute issues"

[Ben-e-boy]

Darren ended up bringing the GU to camp... Apparently he had "last minute issues"

Thats enough chit chat outta you lol, where are the pics and vids.

[MudRunnerTD]

Darren ended up bringing the GU to camp... Apparently he had "last minute issues"

Farker!!!!


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[growler2058]

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Got the good goin out trackies on AB :)

[taslucas]

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Do I have to bring my own hat Winnie or will you supply me one??

[PMC]

Fark, i thought i would join the line of forum sponsors. lol

Regards,

RLI

[MudRunnerTD]

Fark, i thought i would join the line of forum sponsors. lol

Regards,

RLI

Nice one Paul! It's where it's at mate ;)

[Winnie]

Have you redesigned the bump stops yet? Get to it!


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[MudRunnerTD]

Have you redesigned the bump stops yet? Get to it!


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Nah decided to stick to the Freeways from now on and avoid Flex! ;).

[Winnie]

Yeah leave it where it belongs. It's not very capable offroad anyway.


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[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah leave it where it belongs. It's not very capable offroad anyway.


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Yeah I agree! And we both know you backed off at the set of light because you did not want to embarrass me. Appreciate that mate ;)

[Winnie]

I just wanted to smell that beautiful diesel smoke behind you.


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[PMC]

I just wanted to smell that beautiful diesel smoke behind you.


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G'day winnie,

You ain't one of those funny fellas are you! (smoke behind you.) lol

[MudRunnerTD]

Just watching tonight's 4wdTV and the story on the Superior Engineering Spring Tower Brace being fitting to my car was featured tonight. Looked good. Good story too.

[timeslayer]

hell yea thats how its done :) both the before and after pics. i wish i had my own shed and i would be blasting mine back to bare metal rolling chassis and cab separated. maybe the next one :)

[Lights]

I'm going to word Dung Beetle up Darren ;)

[NissanGQ4.2]

Just watching tonight's 4wdTV and the story on the Superior Engineering Spring Tower Brace being fitting to my car was featured tonight. Looked good. Good story too.

Cool hopefully it will be on todays episode for me, better make sure I watch this one :)

[NissanGQ4.2]

Just watching tonight's 4wdTV and the story on the Superior Engineering Spring Tower Brace being fitting to my car was featured tonight. Looked good. Good story too.

Hey Daz, do you know what episode it is on?, only caught bitz n pieces of it this morning and didn't see it if it was on

[MudRunnerTD]

Hey Daz, do you know what episode it is on?, only caught bitz n pieces of it this morning and didn't see it if it was on

Just checked and they have not shown the episode number sorry. Lost of vision on the race buggies. Mine was the second segment in

[NissanGQ4.2]

Just checked and they have not shown the episode number sorry. Lost of vision on the race buggies. Mine was the second segment in

Thanks mate, wasn't the one on TV's today in Sydney but doesn't matter just found the episode online so will watch it later tonight :):):)

[lhurley]

Thanks mate, wasn't the one on TV's today in Sydney but doesn't matter just found the episode online so will watch it later tonight :):):)

Where did you find the episode?? I wouldnt mind watching it

[NissanGQ4.2]

Where did you find the episode?? I wouldnt mind watching it

http://www.c31.org.au/schedule/view/episode/96821

The Tower Brace segmentn starts around the 4.34min mark

[AB]

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I can see this photo being used more times than rosscos swimsuit pic...lol

[MudRunnerTD]

I can see this photo being used more times than rosscos swimsuit pic...lol

Motley Crew

[BigRAWesty]

So it does exist... :p

[Bloodyaussie]

Meh........ I dont know what all the hipe was???

[mudnut]

I'd love to see your Q in action, MR.

[protege146]

Mudrunner...one word for your car...AWESOME!!!!

[MEGOMONSTER]

And big too

[Ben-e-boy]

But it dosn't have long arms :P

[MudRunnerTD]

But it dosn't have long arms :P

Yeah but does it need them???? ;)

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[nissannewby]

Yes. It's so much better to drive not just off road but on road too. They help when climbing, they lessen the rear steer effect quite a bit, increase stability and also allow for more flex.

[Ben-e-boy]

Yeah but does it need them???? ;)

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The front does move well. Thats how good superiors springs are.

But in reality it has been a few pages since I mentioned long arms, so Iam just doing my bit for your build thread. Lol

[MudRunnerTD]

The front does move well. Thats how good superiors springs are.

But in reality it has been a few pages since I mentioned long arms, so Iam just doing my bit for your build thread. Lol

Yeah I took it in that spirit too mate lol. I just wanted to post the flex shot again ;)

[Ben-e-boy]

Yeah I took it in that spirit too mate lol. I just wanted to post the flex shot again ;)
I put my hybrid arms in today, I'll see how they go tomorrow

[BigRAWesty]

I put my hybrid arms in today, I'll see how they go tomorrow

Hybrids?? Tell me more..:D

[lhurley]

Hybrids?? Tell me more..:D

I just spent like 45 mins on the superior site reading up on them. They seem pretty awesome. Very good idea indeed.

link:
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_34_194&products_id=20308

[MudRunnerTD]

I just spent like 45 mins on the superior site reading up on them. They seem pretty awesome. Very good idea indeed.

link:
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=31_32_34_194&products_id=20308

Yes the rear bushed joint is a winner for sure. That is straight from an 80 series front end design! On of the few things Toyota got right!!! Shhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone I said that! ;)

The Hybrid looks to be a combo between their Drop arms and the rear joint /drop box design. Looks good Bene! Will be giving them a good look at in October for sure mate

[BigRAWesty]

Ow ok.. Interesting.. I would have thought the Patrol pin setup would flex more than the opposing pin and Bush.
The patrols arms rotate easier, sure droop is not as good. The toyo setup would droop nice, but would struggle crossing up..
To me flex is the ability to cross axles, not straight drop..

[nissannewby]

Ow ok.. Interesting.. I would have thought the Patrol pin setup would flex more than the opposing pin and Bush.
The patrols arms rotate easier, sure droop is not as good. The toyo setup would droop nice, but would struggle crossing up..
To me flex is the ability to cross axles, not straight drop..

They are 100mm longer than a standard drop arm and the rear bush change is to promote better bush life, as when your flex the pin type a lot the bushes flog really quick. The length helps with stability again and also flex while the 80's bush will give good bush life ;).

[nissannewby]

Also good flex isn't just about one side tucking hard and other dropped to its limits but good flex will allow the vehicle to stay level while the suspension goes through its travel. You want the suspension to do the work anytime your chassis angles over you have reached maximum flex and you have no suspension left.

[megatexture]

So 100mm longer do you need to extend the front driveshaft or is this distance gain at the chassis end.

[MudRunnerTD]

So 100mm longer do you need to extend the front driveshaft or is this distance gain at the chassis end.

yes it is at the chassis end Mega.

If you have a look at this pic and note that the top mount is in line with the factory mount (in fact it connects to this position for strength) and the bottom mount is set 100mm back.

http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/img/newsletter/New_style_Superflex_arms_pair_wat.jpg

and here is a standard Superior Drop Box. the top mount is consistent between the two pics

http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/product_thumb.php?w=&h=0&img=images/Drop%20Boxes(bolt%20in)%20wat.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2013/10/8.jpg

[megatexture]

Isnt that last pic standard arms with a drop box

[MudRunnerTD]

Isnt that last pic standard arms with a drop box

yes. It was the best pic i could find showing the standard drop box location position for the rear joint of the radius arm. you can see that a standard drop box just drops the pivot only inline with the factory setup. the Hybrid that Bene has sorted pushes that back 100mm below the gearbox support.

[BigRAWesty]

Also good flex isn't just about one side tucking hard and other dropped to its limits but good flex will allow the vehicle to stay level while the suspension goes through its travel. You want the suspension to do the work anytime your chassis angles over you have reached maximum flex and you have no suspension left.

Couldn't agree more. Just in my eyes the patrol setup is like a pin in a sleeve, the arm will rotate all day long allowing good axle rotation.
I do agree anything more than 2" lift and the bushes are out of there range, but that's when drop boxes come into play.
As for the toyo setup, the arms will swing up and down all day, but as soon as the arm tries to rotate its very limited buy the Bush and pin.
It's like putting a bolt threw that pin and sleeve, that pin is only going to rotate as much as the slop (the Bush) allows.
I'm sure I'm wrong, but in my eyes the Nissan pin setup with drop box is a better setup.

[megatexture]

Ahh ok yep

[liftlid]

I don't see this mod giving MR an increase in performance over what he has now.

[MudRunnerTD]

I don't see this mod giving MR an increase in performance over what he has now.

Yeah I am not in a hurry to change much now I don't thnk. Keen to see Bene's long arms in the rear though. newby's definition above is spot on and the flex pic of my car on the previous page shows a car sitting nice and flat and level and fully crossed up! I like it. In the car I really had no idea that it had crossed up so much until I got out of the car to take a look. I smiled ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

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[BigRAWesty]

Your just as bad as that bloke and his pics of the things we sit in... :D

[4WD DUDE]

That's one beast of a GQ you have mate ;)

[Warwick89]

One hell of a truck mate

[amro74]

((35" Spring spacers)) can you recommend the best brand

[Lights]

Is this still around or has it been parted out?

[liftlid]

Is this still around or has it been parted out?

Oh that's cruel!!!!!!!

[MudRunnerTD]

Oh that's cruel!!!!!!!

he is a Nasty man!

Dont listen to him, he will lead you a stray!

[liftlid]

he is a Nasty man!

Dont listen to him, he will lead you a stray!

He also seems to be afraid to put the Tojo up against the nissans!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

I think that's why he drives a lot at night so know one will see him with busted CV's being towed by a Nissan!!!

[Lights]

He also seems to be afraid to put the Tojo up against the nissans!!!

Gary, the last time I did that I was the only 4by left running by the end of the weekend! I knew I should have left that Nissan at the bottom of the hill :)

[taslucas]

Gary, the last time I did that I was the only 4by left running by the end of the weekend! I knew I should have left that Nissan at the bottom of the hill :)

so there were a lot of chicken tracks in that area?

[MudRunnerTD]

so there were a lot of chicken tracks in that area?

Nearlly choked on dinner lmfao!!!

[taslucas]

Nearlly choked on dinner lmfao!!!

its just too easy

[Lights]

Haha, I had a feeling I'd regret posting that in a Patrol forum.

[PMC]

G'day MudRunner,

What's the latest with the beast?

Regards,

RLI

[PMC]

G'evening Petal!

I am just inquiring about those diffs mate!

PS, I just sent you a PM with my contact phone number.

Regards,

Paul

[PMC]

G'evening Darren,

I am just inquiring if you received my PM?

PS, you will have noticed i was the one that was kind to you on your birthday thread. No i am not crawling just to get those diffs. err well just a little. lol

Regards,

RLI

[Lights]

I saw this out and about over the weekend. So it still does exist.

[MudRunnerTD]

I saw this out and about over the weekend. So it still does exist.

True story!!

Looking a little worse for wear!!

Did a big drive over the weekend guys. Possibly the best Extreme trip I have done in the GQ. Not a Heap of mud which was a bonus. I did the same track and the Gates of Hell on previous pages but it was dryer. Much dryer. Had a great time and got to do some amazing tracks.

I have a heap f pics and will post some up later tonight when my phone is charged.

Thanks goes to Lights for leading this trip. It was mind blowing crazy on occasion and we did some tracks that were simply undrivable. Crazy stuff. Thanks Boz.

[Ben-e-boy]

True story!!

Looking a little worse for wear!!

Did a big drive over the weekend guys. Possibly the best Extreme trip I have done in the GQ. Not a Heap of mud which was a bonus.

What a load of crap. You were devistated by the lack of mud :harhar:

[MudRunnerTD]

What a load of crap. You were devistated by the lack of mud :harhar:

Nah mate! Stoked! Bloody mud is overrated!


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Here are some pics.

Great crew, 6 cars, I had the smallest tyres!!

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Headed into the Gates of Hell track after dark. Had done a couple of warmup tracks already.

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On the winch soon enough

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Had a great run through in both directions. Much dryer than last time and great fun. I had the gopro going and will see about some video for you.

Had winch trouble late Saturday night but was able to keep going.

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Had to Winch into camp Saturday night and broke my winch rope twice before abandoning the attempt and getting another GQ with a 24v HiMount to winch up and then winch me into camp with a disabled winch and No Locker.

My navi and lights spliced my rope on Sunday Morning while I fixed the locker and we winched back out of camp again!! Crazy stuff.

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[Winnie]

When do you want this alternator bracketry?

[MudRunnerTD]

When do you want this alternator bracketry?

Last Friday would have been ACE!!!!! LMFAO!!

[Ben-e-boy]

You'll have to change your name to dirtrunnertd

[93patrol]

So when does the 24 v winch go in and the 37s go on. Haha. Great photos mate where can we see the vids of the trip??

[Winnie]

Haha you should have messaged me! Seriously though I do want it gone and it has to be gone before the Simpson. We have to stop putting this off and set a weekend... Not one of the two following weekends though haha

[MudRunnerTD]

Sunday was a great day. Started early on only a few hours sleep and didn't let for most of the day.

The Melbourne crew left around lunchtime for family commitments and 1 of the GQs had blown a CV.

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So after lunch Lights had something special. A track that had been washed out for a few years and undrivable was on the list to drive today!!! I seriously thought he was joking when we pulled up!!

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Yes that is shoulder height and undercut. That's Lights from the vendors section standing there. He is a mad bastard!!!

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Massive winch up!!!!

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How lucky am I that this did not end badly!!

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[MudRunnerTD]

So when does the 24 v winch go in and the 37s go on. Haha. Great photos mate where can we see the vids of the trip??

The 24v is a Priority and is getting sorted. Winnie is a great bloke and is helping me there.

The Tyres will have to wait a little while. Funds are bloody tight at the moment so on the back burner. The next set of tyres will be 37" Maxxis Treps though for sure! Just like on the 80 Comp truck on the pics. They ate the Simex 35" ETs all weekend.!!!

[megatexture]

Looks like an awesome time! But I'm stumped why did you only 1/3 polish your driveshaft?

[MudRunnerTD]

You'll have to change your name to dirtrunnertd

I reckon i have earned the Tag Bene ;)




Cheeky Bastard!!

[Ben-e-boy]

Looks like an awesome time! But I'm stumped why did you only 1/3 polish your driveshaft?

The chassis and the lower arms are in the way

[Ben-e-boy]

I reckon i have earned the Tag Bene ;)




Cheeky Bastard!!

Lol at the rate you are going in 6 months time it will change to dirtcrawlertd

[93patrol]

Way too extreme for me. Still wish I had the coin to be able to do stuff like this

[MudRunnerTD]

Way too extreme for me. Still wish I had the coin to be able to do stuff like this



Yeah i feel it dont worry about that mate. It has taken me 11 years to get my GQ to the current build and my 35" Simex Centipedes need to be replaced with 37" Treps if i am serious about this type of driving. Big Bux and will have to wait a while.

[MudRunnerTD]

Well Winne came down the HWY on Saturday and we stripped out the second Alternator off his TD. We stripped off all the brackets and thermostat housing off my TD to revert Winnie's back to standard. All bolted up and Winnie is as good as new.

Winnie is a Generous guy!! He gifted me the dual setup and I sincerely appreciate it. Thanks bloke.

So my plan is to source a 24v alternator with the same mounts and setup an independent 24v system for the winch. Batteries in the rear footwells and loose the second battery under the bonnet and fit a bigger air of and stainless snorkel. Will be a while but that's the plan.

While removing the thermostat housing I broke the rear bolt damn it!! Winnie I drilled and tapped it yesterday and fitted an M10 Helicoil and jobs right. Power steering pump fitted and fan removed for further inspection and maybe I will buy another I think. She looks pretty average.

[Winnie]

Those fans are cheap enough from Patrolapart Darren. So everything went back on alright?

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[MudRunnerTD]

Those fans are cheap enough from Patrolapart Darren. So everything went back on alright?



Hi mate,

yeah i tapped out that Thermostat and that went on fine. Bolted up the PS pump and the kids took me away so thats as far as i got mate. Poor buggers battled on alone on Saturday so i had to make good Sunday LOL.

The Bracket is in place and ready for the alternator so may look around and see if i can find a 24v that is going to match the mounts and do the job once. Thanks again mate.

[Winnie]

Hi mate,

yeah i tapped out that Thermostat and that went on fine. Bolted up the PS pump and the kids took me away so thats as far as i got mate. Poor buggers battled on alone on Saturday so i had to make good Sunday LOL.

The Bracket is in place and ready for the alternator so may look around and see if i can find a 24v that is going to match the mounts and do the job once. Thanks again mate.

They did pretty well to not kill each other... haha!

[Lights]

Good to see this coming together Darren. Just in time for winter!

[PMC]

G'day Darren,

Thanks for the diffs mate!

They are still siting on my bench top in my garage. Unfortunately, I have been unable to work on my poor Patrol for the last 4 months.

Kind regards,

Paul

[Lights]

24v hooked up and working yet?

[MudRunnerTD]

Well she has been parked up for a little whole now and I am finally getting some time to start on the 24v conversion. Stripped both batteries out and going to use the 2 full river Gel batteries inside the car behind he passenger seat as the 24v bank and last weekend picked up a marine battery from autopro when they had 25% off batteries. Score! That is going in under the bonnet and removing the second battery there.

Everything has to be desired and ran to the single battery now so a bit of work there.

While it's co out and apart I am trying to sort out the collapsed inner guards which have split and fractured. Very common on the GQ and everyone should have a look.

[MudRunnerTD]

Check out some pics of the splits and tears

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[MEGOMONSTER]

Check out some pics of the splits and tears <img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48133"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48134"/> I have already jacked the inner guard back into position before I took the pics I thought I grabbed some other pics the other day but oh well. Here is a couple of better ones <img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48135"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48136"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48137"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48138"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48139"/><img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48140"/> Sent from my iPhone using Motorculture mobile app
Is that from old age wear and tear or just the way you drive.

[NissanGQ4.2]

Is that from old age wear and tear or just the way you drive.

Read the post before


While it's co out and apart I am trying to sort out the collapsed inner guards which have split and fractured. Very common on the GQ and everyone should have a look.

[MudRunnerTD]

Is that from old age wear and tear or just the way you drive.

Yeah it's very common in GQs, its from the weight of the battery sitting on the inner guard. I AMA fan of running an over strap across the top of the battery to the side to help take the weight.

The pic makes the splits not look bad but I had already jacked the inner guard up using the jack on the spring tower ready for welding, I probably jacked it 15to 20mm.

Everyone should have a good look at their inner guards. This is very common.

[MudRunnerTD]

Twin battery tray made and installed. Stoked!

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[Lights]

What are those Trekker slicks you run Darren?

[MudRunnerTD]

What are those Trekker slicks you run Darren?

Pissy little 35" Simex ET2s :(

[MudRunnerTD]

So finally got a little time under the bonnet of the GQ today. I have been avoiding it but bit the bullet and got a bit done.

Finally had a go at bolting up the second Alternator for 24v. The alternator was Slightly different to the 12v that Winnie had and the bracket need some modification to make it fit.

A little swearing and a few test fits and a grinder here and heat gun there, some love from a sledge hammer and here we go

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[nissannewby]

What size is your 24v alternator?

[MudRunnerTD]

What size is your 24v alternator?

55amp. Should be plenty. The winching tends to be over faster, the motor does it easier and running 24v through a 12v motor produces less amps. Most of the guys I drive with are running 55 amps without a drama.

[BigRAWesty]

Nice mate. What clearance have you got between it and the battery tray??

[nissannewby]

55amp. Should be plenty. The winching tends to be over faster, the motor does it easier and running 24v through a 12v motor produces less amps. Most of the guys I drive with are running 55 amps without a drama.

Yes twice the volts means half the Amps.

[MudRunnerTD]

Nice mate. What clearance have you got between it and the battery tray??

I think aout 50mm. Not to concerned. I have the options to buy a new shorter belt that would bring it back in. It's near the end of adjustment so a 20 to 50mm shorter belt will still fit.

[Ben-e-boy]

How well do the motor windings like double the voltage?

[MudRunnerTD]

How well do the motor windings like double the voltage?

Love it mate. Nearly everyone I know that has a himount is running 24v through their 6hp 12v motors. Apparently there is a possibility of wearing out the brushes faster but there are no complaints.

Avoiding winching out and stopping the run-on by switching the opposite would not be pretty but the thing bloody fly mate and pull like a 14 year old. ;)

I am fitting a Deltatek Air Freespool and a GigglePin brake shaft and fitting an Allbright Solenoid. This thing will be a beast mate!

The last couple of trips out with some of the Vic guys they have seen a Himount used for the first time on Liftlids car, they reckon they are great! My 24v setup will Blow them away!!

[AB]

Love it mate. Nearly everyone I know that has a himount is running 24v through their 6hp 12v motors. Apparently there is a possibility of wearing out the brushes faster but there are no complaints.

Avoiding winching out and stopping the run-on by switching the opposite would not be pretty but the thing bloody fly mate and pull like a 14 year old. ;)

I am fitting a Deltatek Air Freespool and a GigglePin brake shaft and fitting an Allbright Solenoid. This thing will be a beast mate!

The last couple of trips out with some of the Vic guys they have seen a Himount used for the first time on Liftlids car, they reckon they are great! My 24v setup will Blow them away!!

You mean crates car when he was plowing through that hole?

That raised a brow or two with some members.

[Ben-e-boy]

Mine has been used twice now. I pulled down a tree in the back yard and moved a dead tree blocking the entrance to shit creek.


I dont like using it on the track... winching is failure :p

[MudRunnerTD]

You mean crates car when he was plowing through that hole?

That raised a brow or two with some members.

Nah when we used Gary's winch to winch up 5 cars on the arvo of the Spit. When Jonny dented Winnies car and you made a mess of a nice little hill.

[MudRunnerTD]

Mine has been used twice now. I pulled down a tree in the back yard and moved a dead tree blocking the entrance to shit creek.


I dont like using it on the track... winching is failure :p

Different terrain down here Bene. Ya Sh1t bag. Come back down here with your winch working and i'll show you how to use it mate ;)

[MudRunnerTD]

Mine has been used twice now. I pulled down a tree in the back yard and moved a dead tree blocking the entrance to shit creek.


I dont like using it on the track... winching is failure :p


This is Failure mate Vvvvvvvv Quadruple Line Pull.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/11/22.jpg

[Ben-e-boy]

Why dont you come up here and I will show you how to not use it :p

[Ben-e-boy]

Hmmm your 1000th post better mention these again

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[nissannewby]

This is Failure mate Vvvvvvvv Quadruple Line Pull.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/11/22.jpg

I can see the problem here. Some 40" nitto mud grapplers would have worked. And some more ponies time for a turbo, pump, inter cooler and intake upgrades :)

[AB]

Nah when we used Gary's winch to winch up 5 cars on the arvo of the Spit. When Jonny dented Winnies car and you made a mess of a nice little hill.

But Gary said the track had already been stripped prior to all of us being there so I or anyone in front of me couldn't of made any difference ;)

[BigRAWesty]

Just having another look at your picks and I like mate. I think that's were ill fit my endless air step up.
Was looking at my stock setup and scratching my head. But moving the steering pump over makes a lot of sense. Much simpler than trying to mount under near chassis.
So next question is does the pump belt squeal?

[MudRunnerTD]

Just having another look at your picks and I like mate. I think that's were ill fit my endless air step up.
Was looking at my stock setup and scratching my head. But moving the steering pump over makes a lot of sense. Much simpler than trying to mount under near chassis.
So next question is does the pump belt squeal?

I haven't turned it on yet but the answer will be No. Will make it tighter if I have to but should not be a problem.

[BigRAWesty]

Fair enough. Nice mod either way

[neixian]

Howqua River and Bluff Hut, my favourite places!

[neixian]

A true mud runner. I h8 mud!

[MudRunnerTD]

Ok been busy under the hood over the last month. I am getting a few things sorted while it's parked up. I am getting it ready for a bigger airbox and hopefully a stainless snorkel through the bonnet at some point.

I have moved the Fuel Primer pump and the vacuum tank to the drivers side and stripped a heap of other crap off the fire wall. I removed the clutch bleed hose and tube and replace the hose and block to allow for the removal of the extra bleed.

This is a Big Job and will take some nutting out to put Humpty Dumpty back together again but it's getting there

Before.

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Fuel primer now attached to drivers side battery tray just above the fuel pump. The copper fuel pines across the fire wall are gone.

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I relocated the vacuum tank and used the copper tube as the primary supply to the tank rather than from the tank just to the clutch

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Getting there

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Stripped out the clutch bleed valve as it's pointless. Phill at the 4WD Shed sells a replacement hose and block without the bleed for the win.

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Removed the redundant dual battery solenoid and wiring and pulled back a few wires that were no longer being used.

I am going to move the fuse block and have to remount it and sort out al the accessories that were going to the second battery that no longer exists. A bit to do yet but it's coming together

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[megatexture]

Yep looks like a real pain in the ass.. Time consuming kind of work.

[BigRAWesty]

Not bad. I've always wondered why the fuel comes down the drivers side, up across the fire wall to the filter then back over the firewall to the pump. Weird

[BigRAWesty]

Also did you mold steel line to new positions or just run rubber hose?

[MudRunnerTD]

Hi Kallen, yeah has always had me too. Just dumb. So the fuel lines come from the back along the right side in copper or steel. Then a rubber fuel line for about 300mm to another copper fuel line that goes across the rear fire wall to the passenger side and then rubber again the the primer pump. From there it's rubber back to another copper line across the fire wall to another rubber fuel line from there to the pump!!! Just a big loop of pointlessness!!!

I got a bracket of a later model GU that runs the primer on the drivers side, there was stuff in the way to fit in the same spot so I cut it up and made it fit off the battery tray. I then removed the big loop. The clutch bleed was worse!! All this massive loop of copper tube to nowhere!

When I have finished I will take a pic of the pile of crap I have stripped off!

The Vacuum on the drivers side makes so much sense too!! Really pleased with how it is coming together.

Mega you are right, just chipping away at it mate, tedious and time consuming. I have to complete each task as I go, there was just a rediculous amount of stuff finishing in that corner!!!

[Bloodyaussie]

After advice from Gary I put the filter on the drivers side when I did my conversion... even has the holes there ready for it.
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[MudRunnerTD]

Yeah my brake lines were in the way to use those holes but did consider them, it was just going to add more work so decided against that spot. I had a good look at it and tried to get the bracket in there. I have mine mounted where you have put your catch can.

[Bloodyaussie]

Yeah my brake lines were in the way to use those holes but did consider them, it was just going to add more work so decided against that spot. I had a good look at it and tried to get the bracket in there. I have mine mounted where you have put your catch can.

Yeah I had mine slightly in the way and gave them a gentle persuasion...

For me the issue is the cooling lines through the firewall hitting the dump pipe?

From what I have heard having the fuel filter on that side makes it a mile easier to bleed up the line.

[dakka1]

hey dude what page of this MASSIVE thread do I go to for the high mount install. im just trying to see where and what and how when it comes to water or oil lines and drain etc

[MudRunnerTD]

hey dude what page of this MASSIVE thread do I go to for the high mount install. im just trying to see where and what and how when it comes to water or oil lines and drain etc

Lol. I assume your talking aout the Himount winch. The first group of Himount winch pics would be in the first 10 pages I reckon depending on how many posts per page your set at. When I started the thread I was basically finished the car so rolled them all out quickly. The winch was done up first then.

I am currently rebuilding the winch again and have it out of the car and completely stripped down. Let me know what you want pics of and I will take a couple for you. The cases have just been painted and I have not reassembled it yet.

[MudRunnerTD]

Next got started on the winch. I pulled it to bits on the bench in the shed to give it a good clean out.

I used this link for a great writeup and how to ==> http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/8274/

Then i went about renovating what needed to be done. I Painted the casing using a Charcoal Hammertone paint out of a can

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0467.jpg?t=1294270748

I tapped the casing to run Air lines to pressurise the case for Bog holes etc. You can see also that i used some of that PVC liquid tape on the terminals thinking that i could trim up the mess when dry => NO YOU CANT!!! so after this pic i went and got a very fine brush and neatened it up allot.

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0469.jpg?t=1294271712
I reckon it looks great.

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0466.jpg?t=1294271769

Mounted it back up into the newly painted bar and fitted the air lines

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0485.jpg?t=1294271802

See on the back of the numberplate i have fitted a white LED marker light that is switched with the winch isolation switch in the dash and lights up the winch whenever power is connected to it. F*#king awesome at night for winching.

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0488.jpg?t=1294271930

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0487.jpg?t=1294271930

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0489.jpg?t=1294271930

Attached my home made Nylon Fairlead and Bob's your Aunty.

From this >>>>

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0450.jpg?t=1294271930

To this >>>>>

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/IMG_0486.jpg?t=1294272155

Mounted up my Lightforce XGTs that i converted to HID and wound on the plasma and ready to go!!

http://nissanpatrol.com.au/images/Stripping%20the%20GQ/GQ%20gauges%20and%20stuff/GQ%20Done/IMG_0517.jpg?t=1278822203

Post 44 for a start. Also post 43 had a couple. As I said though I have it on the bench and can take whatever else you want mate.

[dakka1]

shit sorry dude was meaning the turbo. sorry should have been more specific

[MudRunnerTD]

shit sorry dude was meaning the turbo. sorry should have been more specific

Hahaha. Yeah had a feeling you might have been. My turbo is a low mount and is a full MTQ system. I had it fitted by a shop though way back when. If your chasing pics and info on a Hi Mount Turbo setup your best to ask Bloody Aussie as he has just fitted one to his new TD.

[Majestic]

Looks like MudRunnerTD's GQ has made it's way onto Facebook courtesy of 4WD TV.

https://www.facebook.com/4wdTV/photos/a.235775373126940.53667.233874483317029/812414905462981/?type=1&theater

[Punderhead]

Looks like MudRunnerTD's GQ has made it's way onto Facebook courtesy of 4WD TV. https://www.facebook.com/4wdTV/photos/a.235775373126940.53667.233874483317029/812414905462981/?type=1&theater

Yep saw that. I can now stalk all of your Facebook profiles, it's not that hard to do some patrol matching to names!

[MudRunnerTD]

I must be famous!!! :p

[BigRAWesty]

I must be famous!!! :p

Yea...
Sure......

Ay I was thinking the other day about your gearing issues with the gu and 35's.
Why not swap out the gq centres until the q is ready, or you buy replacements??
Or will 4.6 be to high??

[MudRunnerTD]

Bump for tappa talk

[MudRunnerTD]

Thank FARK for tappa!!! Been slack on this thread as I have struggled with pics until now.

Been a busy year, car has been parked up and have been sorting out my 24v for my winch. It's nearlly ready to go but while it's been parked I have also stripped out a heap of junk wiring. I have also made space for a 4" snorkel through the bonnet and big airbox in the future..

Some wiring mods.

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/05/69.jpg

This is a future plan

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/05/70.jpg

The HiMount is finished and ready to bolt up. 24v ready with +76 Deltatek Freespool and Gigglepin Brake a Shaft. Allbright solenoid. Sexy as Fark!!!

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/05/71.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/05/72.jpg

Gone for a Custom made Big Mouth SS fairlead, you can now buy these on eBay, mine is the one in the pic as it was the first one he made in the bigger size. The big mouth will allow a Brocken plasma to have a knot tied in it and still got through the opening

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/05/73.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/05/74.jpg

http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2015/05/75.jpg




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