Nissanpatrol.com.au sand flags

[Winnie]

Hey guys, I'm going to the printers after work today to see about getting these sand flags made. (once Andy sends me the logo!)
I'm after numbers so we can get better pricing. It will be the flag only, you will have to sort out a pole for yourself. These will be awesome for the Simpson trip and it would be great to have every car with one. There is a poll on this thread so PLEASE vote for how many you would like and don't just post it in the replies.

Thanks all.

[Bloodyaussie]

How much roughly?? I'll have one just for the wank!!!!!

[threedogs]

Be careful what material you print in on as even fluro orange ripstop will fray badly and crack and tear
Best material is the fluro shade cloth material with a stitched edge and silver reflective cross.

I had some printed years ago for the Birdsville servo, worked out at about $6 a flag just to print

[Winnie]

How much roughly?? I'll have one just for the wank!!!!!
Not a clue. Surely not more than $50 and I was hoping more around $20-30 + freight


Be careful what material you print in on as even fluro orange ripstop will fray badly and crack and tear
Best material is the fluro shade cloth material with a stitched edge and silver reflective cross
And how would you print the logo on that? I was thinking PVC canvas.

[threedogs]

Are you printing the sand flag its self or just a flag for the convoy

Desert flags need to be hi-vis
I have used pcv canvas.
the trailing edge of the flag flaps like a whip that's why Co. like ARB use Hi-Vis shade cloth it wont rip

[Winnie]

We are printing the forum logo onto the flag.

[threedogs]

do you have a flag size ?? I think 300 x 300 is the reg size.

[liftlid]

Could not find a poll so made my own


Lift lid 2 flags

[Winnie]

do you have a flag size ?? I think 300 x 300 is the reg size.
300x290 I don't need you to hold my hand here. I am a big boy I can do this myself.


Could not find a poll so made my own


Lift lid 2 flags

Are you using motorculture?

[liftlid]

300x290 I don't need you to hold my hand here. I am a big boy I can do this myself.



Are you using motorculture?

Yes am I missing out?

[Winnie]

Yeah you can't see polls on Motorculture, but that's cool I know you want 2. Just chuck a vote on when you get to a computer if possible.

[MudRunnerTD]

Good job Winnie. The regs for the flag size are in a link that Roffy posted into the meetup thread mate. Have a look there bud. I voted for 1 but may be convinced to grab 2 if the price is right

[TPC]

I will grab 1, I am not going on the Simpson trip but I assume it will be a generic NissanPatrol.com.au flag.

[threedogs]

Just pointing out if you use the wrong material it will rip to shreds after 2-3 k.
But you're the one in the know apparently. I made these, so just thought you needed some help
I'll bow out and a wait the end result

[Winnie]

I will grab 1, I am not going on the Simpson trip but I assume it will be a generic NissanPatrol.com.au flag.
Absolutely, you don't have to be coming to the Simpson to get one or ten.


Just pointing out if you use the wrong material it will rip to shreds after 2-3 k.
But you're the one in the know apparently. I made these, so just thought you needed some help
I'll bow out and a wait the end result
PVC canvas should be fine. With the edges, folded, sewn and glued don't you think? By the sounds of it John you're happy to take over here so I'll just let you sort it out then.

Like this. @AB how would I go with punching two eyelets in each? So they can be cable tied or whatever to the poles.
http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/images/imported/2014/04/4.jpg

[oncedisturbed]

I am keen but cant vote on the mobile

[Clunk]

I am keen but cant vote on the mobile

If you're using Forum Runner you should be able to vote..... You should see "view poll" at the top, tap there, should then be able to see the poll and you can add your vote from there

[Winnie]

I am keen but cant vote on the mobile

No worries, I'll put you down for one.

[Winnie]

What are peoples thoughts on getting them personalised with your forum name on them? Cool or wank?

[TPC]

wank.....
Only because my username is boring.

[MudRunnerTD]

What are peoples thoughts on getting them personalised with your forum name on them? Cool or wank?

Expensive mate. Single setups would be big coin for sure bud.

[taslucas]

Expensive mate. Single setups would be big coin for sure bud.

Yep you'd have to do a set up for each flag. That's like 50-70 bucks if screen printed

[Winnie]

Will give that a miss then!

[growler2058]

I'll get one for the Beachport/Robe trip :)

[Sir Roofy]

i'll get one for the beachport/robe trip :)

yep good thinking chillie boy but was all ready onto that one
@winnie no thanks mate dont need my forum name on it

[mudnut]

As TD posted, the material needs to be really tough. My local club had some made, and as far as I am aware, there are none surviving, due to wear and tear.

[BigRAWesty]

I'll get one for the Beachport/Robe trip :)

X2

2 for me Winnie. I'll vote now

[Gecko17]

One for me please Winnie.

[Winnie]

I went to the printers today and they had already gone home, should see them tomorrow.

[Bloodyaussie]

I went to the printers today and they had already gone home, should see them tomorrow.

Fail.....!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sir Roofy]

fail.....!!!!!!!!!!!

that was today wasnt sure on closing time now he knows

[Winnie]

Yeah was about 4:30 when I got there and nobody in sight lol

[AB]

Sorry blokes, as usual....under the pump.....Winnie....PDF attached in vector graphics too....300mm x 290mm.

I'll leave the program open, any changes or anything just let me know....

See below.

42773

[Winnie]

Spot on, thanks AB.

[AB]

I like to stretch the L over more as it visually looks symmetrical...lol

[growler2058]

fail.....!!!!!!!!!!!

x2 fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AB]

Absolutely, you don't have to be coming to the Simpson to get one or ten.

PVC canvas should be fine. With the edges, folded, sewn and glued don't you think? By the sounds of it John you're happy to take over here so I'll just let you sort it out then.

Like this. @AB how would I go with punching two eyelets in each? So they can be cable tied or whatever to the poles.


Yes I can do that but we need a punch to punch holes I only have punch to put on eyelets on existing holes.

We could however get some pipe to the right size , file it sharp and punch that would work.

[NissanGQ4.2]

I would love one but considering my 4b is off the road for god knows how long there sorta is no point :(

[taslucas]

Sorry blokes, as usual....under the pump.....Winnie....PDF attached in vector graphics too....300mm x 290mm.

I'll leave the program open, any changes or anything just let me know....

See below.

<img src="http://www.nissanpatrol.com.au/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42773"/>

And what did I get when I wanted your logo to make forum stickers????? A big fat nothing!!!!

[Clunk]

And what did I get when I wanted your logo to make forum stickers????? A big fat nothing!!!!

That's coz pooh is special

[Clunk]

I'm interested in one but would be nice to see what they're going to look like first

[growler2058]

That's coz pooh is special


I had a special Poo for two days after having a vindaloo at the footy last weekend

[threedogs]

You can buy a punch especially for eyelets for around $20
All different sizes with eyelets supplied

[Bloodyaussie]

I have one of those eyelet punches....

Wheres my flag... I ordered it yesterday and it has not arrived.. I think I will leave negative feedback!!!!!

[TPC]

I have one of those eyelet punches....

Wheres my flag... I ordered it yesterday and it has not arrived.. I think I will leave negative feedback!!!!!
He is going to sell 400 then not deliver and offer to sell something else at a higher price.

[threedogs]

Here is a mounting option for those fitting it to your
roofrack, 2mtr off that is higher than 3mtrs off bulbar and not as much whip

[Winnie]

This is a reply from a mining supplier. I enquired about the mesh flags.


Hi Chris

*

Thank you for your enquiry.* We have had many request in the past for what you are after and have advised against it, due to the cost V the very short life of the flag. **First of all, unfortunately, all our flags come with the reflective cross due to mining spec's, and they are also made of mesh high vis material which makes printing almost impossible.* From the printing trials we have done, it is very difficult to see from any distance.

*

The only way to add your logo, is to sew a solid piece of material with your screen printed logo onto the flag, which in turn may cause other problems.**** Basically, the mesh reduces the wind resistance allowing the wind to travel through the flag rather than along each side.* Wind movement along each side causes excessive flapping of the trailing edge which then leads to fraying.* By adding a sewn patch to each side will upset the air flow and destroy the flag in no time.

*

A website company (I won't mention who) *wanted a logo flag to offer with our flag poles which they sell, I explained the issues, they went ahead and did it anyway and the feedback from customers was not good.* Anyway, we can offer our flags, but cannot recommend printing directly onto it or adding a logo patch as the flag won't last.* Let me now if you wish to pursue it further, I can then work out a price for you

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[BigRAWesty]

Was afraid of that reply.

What about embroidering the outline of the basic logo??

[taslucas]

How about my idea on the reflective strip winnie?

[Sir Roofy]

Have a look at www. Kulklyne . Com they have red flags about $7.00 each maybe so the logo to that

[taslucas]

Have a look at www. Kulklyne . Com they have red flags about $7.00 each maybe so the logo to that

I sent him that link yesterday roofy. Some good stuff on there and pretty cheap too

[taslucas]

Ok, how long will you guys actually have the flags up for? A week, two? I'm wondering if the canvas ones might just hang in there for long enough?
Even if they are getting tattered by the end at least they'll have served their purpose and they'll look great hanging on the wall

[threedogs]

its tough as for its designed purpose, it just can't hack the constant high speed
whipping it just tears it to shreds... I should have examples here I'll look later.
If you only use it for the slower desert sections only it may as Lucas says last the crossing.
Doesn't take long for them to self destruct though, Its the flapping that kills it

[Bob]

Lorraine has advised that maybe Nylon Lycra will do the Job.
Stretchy and can get in Bright Pink.
Winnie if you PM me your address Lorraine said that she would send you a sample for you to take to the Printer.
Lorraine has 1500mm wide by 900mm in Bright Pink which you can have
Then you can all be a MAMIL (middle Aged Men in Lycra

[Winnie]

They're not for driving at high speeds... Mine will be on while we're in the desert (5 days tops yeah) and then put on the wall like Lucas said.
The kulkyne ones are not big enough to meet requirements, I know it's very unlikely but I would hate for us all to show up and be fined or whatever they do about it

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[Sir Roofy]

i sent him that link yesterday roofy. Some good stuff on there and pretty cheap too

your right lucas it is
as far as the flag goes he could ask for the adress where they get theres done
and ask for the 300 x290 that is required ? As for travel its only 4-5 days across from
dalhousie to bigred then you han them up

[BigRAWesty]

Have you looked at embroidery?

[Winnie]

Expensive?

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[Maxhead]

You could go and get them croched. Go and check out the nearest crochet club:)

[Winnie]

I'll tell them Kris Prok sent me

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[Maxhead]

I'll tell them Kris Prok sent me

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That will get you a discount and.........

[MudRunnerTD]

The last 3 trips I have done with a flag have been
, 1 week on the beach in Beachport often at high speed, 1 week in the centre on the Ghan Heritage trail often at high speed, 10 days on the Madigan Line at fairly slow speed but lots of impact on trees. The "flag" that I have used is a square cotton face washer size red rag. Zip tied to a fishing rod. I bought a pack of red rags from Super cheap and just used one and it did great! A little frayed now but did the trips, all the trips with ease.

We need something g for the desert crossing only. 30 to 40km/h . It will hold up fine I reckon. Then on the wall for nxt time. If they are cheap enough then on the wall and use a fresh one for next time if needed.

[TPC]

This is a improvised sand-flag we spotted in Birdsville in 2010 after we did the Madigan, its a red bra and it survived the Simpson.

[threedogs]

does any one know what specs etc are required for a desert crossing, I was told fines may be inforced, not 100% on that though.
To stop your flag flogging its self out under concave the trailing edge, it may slow down the self destruction effect they have.
I would imagine the new regs would require Hi-Vis flags but hopefully it will be mine spec
http://patrolapart.com.au/blogs/company/sa-govt---new-flag-rules-for-simpson-desert-travel
Heres the regs about the desert flag

[Sir Roofy]

does any one know what specs etc are required for a desert crossing, I was told fines may be inforced, not 100% on that though.
To stop your flag flogging its self out under concave the trailing edge, it may slow down the self destruction effect they have.
I would imagine the new regs would require Hi-Vis flags but hopefully it will be mine spec
http://patrolapart.com.au/blogs/company/sa-govt---new-flag-rules-for-simpson-desert-travel
Heres the regs about the desert flag

the new regs are in the trip planner look that up I put it there last week

[Maxhead]

does any one know what specs etc are required for a desert crossing, I was told fines may be inforced, not 100% on that though.
To stop your flag flogging its self out under concave the trailing edge, it may slow down the self destruction effect they have.
I would imagine the new regs would require Hi-Vis flags but hopefully it will be mine spec
http://patrolapart.com.au/blogs/company/sa-govt---new-flag-rules-for-simpson-desert-travel
Heres the regs about the desert flag


Geez, I'm glad I'm not going on this trip. The flag would definitely ferk me over.

FFS TD, let the guys do what they want to do instead putting a downer on the whole flag bullshit...Fark sake, it should be simple

EDIT: BTW. Good on ya Winnie for having a go. It's people like you that make a difference on this forum...Well done mate

[threedogs]

no probs if anyone near by needs a flag I have a few here, 3x 1mtr solid fibreglass and bracket

[taslucas]

Lorraine has advised that maybe Nylon Lycra will do the Job.
Stretchy and can get in Bright Pink.
Winnie if you PM me your address Lorraine said that she would send you a sample for you to take to the Printer.
Lorraine has 1500mm wide by 900mm in Bright Pink which you can have
Then you can all be a MAMIL (middle Aged Men in Lycra

Did she have some Lycra left over from from your outfit?

[Clunk]

So have these died in the arse then?